Tozawa at least has been on TV here and there, fairly often compared to the rest.
Of all of the releases, who do we expect to return as a future surprise entrant in the Rumble? Perhaps Ziggler in 2-3 years?
Tozawa at least has been on TV here and there, fairly often compared to the rest.
Of all of the releases, who do we expect to return as a future surprise entrant in the Rumble? Perhaps Ziggler in 2-3 years?
I like when AEW just lets a contract run out and has no communication with the talent on whether or not they're going to resign them until said talent finds out via Twitter posts from random fans. Then you have to figure out how you're going to pay bills because you know Tony wasn't paying a talent like Sonny Kiss anything special.Originally Posted by MTR
With that said, I'm not really a fan of keeping people on the payroll doing nothing. It's a weird business but the verbiage is in the contract. Anyone who signs with the WWE and you're shocked after 80 years I guess that's just how it goes lol.
Mansoor.
Yeah it is shitty when they are not told. I agree with that and seems like that has happened a bunch.
It's happened to several of the first wave talents that were simply signed to show AEW were inclusive or just needed a body. Like they never did a single thing of worth with Sonny Kiss. Maybe the gimmick was too much for Tony to comprehend. People talk about Jade being a loss, imo Sonny KIss was the real loss.
I agree that Sonny was a loss for that company and I wish Tony had done more with them.
Hope to see a post in this thread about Sonny getting signed by WWE someday...
I meant the 30 person Royal Rumble that kicks off Mania season, not the Saudi 45 entrant Greatest Royal Rumble, but fair point that Mansoor shows up there at some point for a hometown pop, perhaps as a way to get heat on someone.
I am not sure that WWE would know what to do with Sonny.Same with Max the Impaler who I also like. Things are easier on them in the indies because the indies do intergender matches all the time and both wrestle men and women.
Big, hard co-sign on this one my friend. Especially the subtle shade to Jade. I've never, in my almost 30 years of being a wrestling fan, seen a more overhyped performer than Jade. Like, I respect her for going out there and putting her life on the line for our entertainment, but outside of having a rockin physique she's ridiculously mediocre in every other way. I'm actually excited for her to train at the PC because the potential is out of this world, but my fear is that they will rush her to the main roster where, unfortunately, her weaknesses will be on full display.
I will say this coming from a glass half full approach, we've seen a lot worse on the main roster and not just from the past I'm talking right now. If we have Nia Jax and Carmella on the main roster Jade can definitely hold her own.
Yup yup yup. Max rules. They have said they're OK working in a women's division if that's most suitable where they're booked. Max doesn't really strike me as WWE material as much as Sonny, though.I am not sure that WWE would know what to do with Sonny.
Matt Riddle has been released
I would like to say I’m shocked at this news but really not. Saddened yes as a fucking exceptional talent but the guy has made his own mistakes and way too many of them. That airport stuff was the tip of the iceberg.
I can only hope the guy sees the light one day and sorts himself out.
If he’d kept himself (and big if) Orton gets the all clear, massive feud/reunion possibility and also the possibility of a great program with Drew but really only himself to blame.
The most saddening and disappointing yet not shocking release of them all. It’s his own fault.
Matt Riddle looking like a bad joke
Can't say I will miss Riddle.
He’s Jeff Hardy 2.0
I guess it's too late for him to be Heath Slater 2.0 and run with "I got kids I need this job!"
Stupid decision they got rid of Heath.
I now want GUNTHER to say there’s no-one left then Heath interrupts and beats the streak with a roll-up! Kinda like a Santino/Umaga moment.
Don't think any of us would have guessed that Dijak would be the only member of retribution not to be released.
Complete with the One Man Band theme
This hits hard. Easily my favorite talent today. Ugh,
You’ve really been cursed. Your favourite talents have either been released, moved or in Braun’s case, released, come back and injured.
Feel for you dude!
There's always Brock but he's not around all the time.
Oh, I do like Omos.
Yeah think you’re safe with Brock lol.
That’s a point. Omos has been MIA lately. Think he came back briefly but not been around. Don’t know what the story with that is but if the cuts are still going on, I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you.
I don’t know if anyone seen Top Dolla…oh now Dolla’s rants on social media about him changing his name but posted a rant that the criticism he’s got is because he’s black.
It might have something more to do with you are absolutely fucking shit than your colour of skin.
I didn’t think there would be anyone worse than Ryback with his rants but there ya go!
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That's racist Badger
(Only kidding)
Nah, I didn't see a lot of his work, but his tweets always came off as someone overly confident in his ability as a wrestler. I'm sure there have definitely been racist people who were happy to jump onto the bandwagon, but that doesn't mean most of the criticism was invalid.
Fwiw, it was the Chris Jericho FB page not really hosted by Chris Jericho (and tbf can be a bit shite) that shared his comments. Most said he was talking shit.
When he was in NXT and him and the group had the swerve he was protected. It was the horrendous attempt at a dive over the top rope that was soooo bad so Cole just said fuck it and started laughing calling him Flop Dolla. Believe me it was baaaad! That’s why you also had LA Knight burying the whole stable off camera in a dark match once.
When Swerve was gone, the holes were badly exposed.
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Cole was rightfully brutal. Rewatched the commentary lol and Cole was more savage than I remembered.
Max rules. Seen them live a few times. They are currently the NWA women’s champ. They times they work AEW on dark was against women and NWA books them in the women’s division. When they work Glory Pro here in St Louis they work anyone. They had a slobberknocker against Jake Something a couple years ago.
I didn’t see it live but Sonny worked a Glory Pro show against Allie Kaitch in a decent match
Riddle... what a disappointment. Truly had high hopes for the guy being a top player, but eh. He couldn't stay out of it.
Riddle was never going to be anything above midcard with that shroom tat on his rib. I loved watching him in MMA, love watching him wrestle as he's like an RVD type-totally different in look, vibe, moveset than anything else out there. With that said, we've seen people do/say worse including Vince himself but someone has to be made an example of.
My son was telling me all this wild shit about that Quincy Elliot cat. Sounds like a total pos if true.
The recent worst-kept secret is now official: Jade Cargill has signed with WWE.
I guess the days of Luger or Rude showing up unexpectedly for the other company are long gone. Everything has to be announced these days, everyone's contract has to be followed. Even Cody wasn't a good kept secret.
Don't know much about Cargill but hey, I'll look forward to seeing what the hype is.
Harder to pull of a surprised for sure. Black's debut with AEW was a surprise in part because people didn't realize his non compete was only 30 days instead of 90 days.
I think Jade still has some work because they didn't really work her with some of the more talented women and she did a lot of squashes. I think working NXT would be good but I think they are going to move her up to the main roster right away.
I think on one hand you'll have the hardcore fans who will know who she is and on the other you'll have people who will be like who is this mysterious beautiful woman??
And while I do believe WWE has the best women's roster I don't think Jade's skillset will look too out of place when you think about some of the wrestlers we see every week. I do think a trip through NXT wouldn't kill her but who knows.
Perhaps they have a mystery spot on the women's War Games match. And they fill it with a debuting Jade Cargill.
The gimmick match can hide her weaknesses, while they train her in between shows.
I am kind of hoping even if they don't have her do a stint in NXT that they do have her spend sometime down there and work with some coaches and stuff before coming up to the main roster.
I could see it. It's not out of the ordinary for them to do that especially with how few house shows they do in comparison to the past. If she's on tv once a week she can use whatever house shows she's on to get reps plus going down to the PC if need be.
I see they are sharing pics on social media of her at the performance center today. So yeah she probably moves up to main roster quickly but hopefully they have her continue to work out at the performance center for a while.
I've seen a fair amount of stuff about main roster talent hitting the PC on their off days to train. It seems like it's pretty common and likely she'd be doing that. Advantage of her going straight to the main roster is the caliber of talent she'd be in there with are folks that can carry her and educate her on the job. The way they're handing the signing and the buzz around it, I think main roster is the way to go and seems most likely.
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