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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I agree, the amount of mainstream hip hop that interests me now is far far lower than the amount I used to listen to. I don't love where the genre has gone as a whole. There are still good artists at the top - I personally think Drake puts out consistently very good music in his own unique style. Kendrick is a young legend. J Cole is very solid. Kanye, whenever he drops stuff, is still killing it. But these positive examples don't change what I said before... there used to be a plethora of great artists in mainstream hip hop, now there are only a few. I used to get excited by, say, 15 to 20 albums a year and now it's more like 5.

    I think the Cardi B album is pretty good though.
    See, what trips me out is that I don't even consider 90% of the shit they call "rap" actual rap music. I listen to Drake, Kanye, Lil' Wayne, and I just can't get into it.

    What's funny is the minimal stuff I've heard of J. Cole I was actually very impressed but he's still not someone I'm going out of my way to listen to because it's just not my thing. Again, that could just be old age creeping up but I still bump new shit it's just not what is plastered all over magazines and t.v. and Twitter.

    I bet though 20 years ago there was a dude just like me going "Fuck man this Master P bullshit is not Rakim fuck this" But I'm not even going that deep with it I just don't see the effort. At least for every Master P record you had like 30 other acts killing it. Now it's like shit, if you're not some shit that could tour with Justin Bieber, you're not going even a factor.

    You have these fucks like Takashi 69, Lil Xan Boy-who by the way is performing (yeah I was shocked that any of these lil bitches perform) here in Des Moines this summer and I'm willing to catch an assbeating by security to fuck this kid up. Not for 2pac, just for the simple fact that I fucking hate the direction people like that have taken a genre I love. They're made it so dumbed down that literally all you need is 100,000 youtube plays of some simple ass shit repeating over and over and you're getting mad fans and money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    J.Cole new album is nice
    New Doom one is pretty excellent too
    I like the new Cole album a lot.

    So kanye announced his own album, the kayne/cudi album, the pusha T and now a new Nas album. all in a one month span from may-june. consider me excited.

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    I will consider travelling stateside if there's a cudi/kanye tour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I bet though 20 years ago there was a dude just like me going "Fuck man this Master P bullshit is not Rakim fuck this" But I'm not even going that deep with it I just don't see the effort. At least for every Master P record you had like 30 other acts killing it. Now it's like shit, if you're not some shit that could tour with Justin Bieber, you're not going even a factor.
    I'll take Master P over any mainstream trash out right now.

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    I would too haha

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    I miss the albums of No Limit
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    Kendrick knew what he was doing here. The girl should of had a light bulb going off as the word was coming up.



    The whole thing is funnier than it is important imo, so it's whatever, but I just don't know that there's simply one finger to point.

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    this new Pusha T album DAYTONA is quite good

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    after 2 listens

    if you know you know 9/10
    the games we play 8.5/10
    hard piano 7.5/10
    come back baby 9/10
    santeria 8.5/10
    what would meek do 8/10
    infrared 9/10

    favorite track obviously a toss up between the 3 I have at 9's but I'm gonna say my fave so far is If You Know You Know. it's a short album more like an EP clocking in at 22 minutes- seems to be what Kanye is going for since his album is also supposed to be 7 tracks. but that's fine with me, although I'd like a little more length this is no filler at all which is refreshing when compared to an 80 minute hip hop album that drags.

    yeezy season is here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel
    I miss the albums of No Limit
    Ghetto D?
    Street Life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.V.W. View Post
    Ghetto D?
    Street Life?
    Never got too much into Fiend and the only Master P album I ever had was Da Last Don which I thought was kinda whack but the album cover was super fresh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel
    Never got too much into Fiend and the only Master P album I ever had was Da Last Don which I thought was kinda whack but the album cover was super fresh.
    Yeah, it did have a cold cover. Only song from Da Last Don I still listen to even semi-regularly is "Thinkin' Bout U".

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    drake vs pusha T we are blessed and also how can anyone not respect drake at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Never got too much into Fiend and the only Master P album I ever had was Da Last Don which I thought was kinda whack but the album cover was super fresh.
    Dude that shit Fiend did with Three 6 Mafia is off the chain. I still jam this on the regular.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post


    drake vs pusha T we are blessed and also how can anyone not respect drake at this point

    I respect anyone who can hustle. Do I respect his skill level? No more than I would respect people like Justin Bieber's guitar skills I guess.

    I was reading a shit ton of comments and people were like "Drake sold millions more than Pusha T obviously he's better" That's a tough pill for me to swallow because when you say someone is BETTER that's about skill and anyone who listens to Drake and thinks he's a better rapper than Pusha T is just in a different lane than I am musically.

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    First impression: I think Drake's diss was a better song but this is dope too and definitely hits on a more personal level talking about Drake's kid and shit.

    either way I just love a good rap beef between 2 good popular MCs
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    YE is out and it's pretty good. Not one for the ages or anything but pretty nice

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    His wife said he shot the album cover on his iPhone on the way to the listening party. Just scribbled some shit with his finger and boom, that's the cover. I used to think it was lazy seeing an album cover with just someone standing in a white room with their name in the font they use, thinking damn that's lazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel
    His wife said he shot the album cover on his iPhone on the way to the listening party. Just scribbled some shit with his finger and boom, that's the cover. I used to think it was lazy seeing an album cover with just someone standing in a white room with their name in the font they use, thinking damn that's lazy.
    Guess he said "Lemme get it out the way now".

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    better than the picture of the surgeon who killed his mum though right?

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    Growing up and to this day, album covers meant a lot to me. When I started doing music, early on a guy told me that the album cover would be one of the top 3 ingredients to selling my shit and probably the most important since it's the first thing people see. You could have a dog shit sounding album and nobody knows who you are, but if you're album cover looks sweet, they might just grab it.

    That's how a buddy of mine found out about a lot of underground shit like Esham for example. Here was a rapper with this Satanic imagery on his album cover. This was probably 1993, nobody in our area had a clue who this kid was but his album cover stood out like a sore thumb among the likes of Naughty by Nature and the like where it was usually just dudes in black leather standing in the streets. Esham had some crazy ass album covers.

    I just can't imagine someone not on Kanye's level dropping some cover like that....but then again, I'm 36.....I was able to experience the joy of album artwork unlike many younger than me who could not give a fuck less as long as it downloaded to their Apple device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    better than the picture of the surgeon who killed his mum though right?
    Idk, was that an album cover he had?

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    What's wrong with the album cover? He recorded the album in the Wyoming mountains or whatever, it's a nice picture of that, the place where this all happened. As for the "I hate being bi-polar it's awesome" wording, I've heard it's pretty well in line with the content of the album although I haven't listened yet. Heard some people saying that should have been the title of the album instead of ye.

    The picture of the surgeon would have made sense if he stuck with the "Love Everyone" album title/theme

    The Daytona album cover is another odd choice but I think it works strangely well.

    Daytona is a perfect 22 minutes of music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Growing up and to this day, album covers meant a lot to me. When I started doing music, early on a guy told me that the album cover would be one of the top 3 ingredients to selling my shit and probably the most important since it's the first thing people see. You could have a dog shit sounding album and nobody knows who you are, but if you're album cover looks sweet, they might just grab it.

    That's how a buddy of mine found out about a lot of underground shit like Esham for example. Here was a rapper with this Satanic imagery on his album cover. This was probably 1993, nobody in our area had a clue who this kid was but his album cover stood out like a sore thumb among the likes of Naughty by Nature and the like where it was usually just dudes in black leather standing in the streets. Esham had some crazy ass album covers.

    I just can't imagine someone not on Kanye's level dropping some cover like that....but then again, I'm 36.....I was able to experience the joy of album artwork unlike many younger than me who could not give a fuck less as long as it downloaded to their Apple device.

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    Idk, was that an album cover he had?
    He said that's what it was going to be at 1 stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    What's wrong with the album cover? He recorded the album in the Wyoming mountains or whatever, it's a nice picture of that, the place where this all happened. As for the "I hate being bi-polar it's awesome" wording, I've heard it's pretty well in line with the content of the album although I haven't listened yet. Heard some people saying that should have been the title of the album instead of ye.

    The picture of the surgeon would have made sense if he stuck with the "Love Everyone" album title/theme

    The Daytona album cover is another odd choice but I think it works strangely well.

    Daytona is a perfect 22 minutes of music.
    It's not the worst album cover by any means but it still looks like shit. Looks like he just screen shotted a pic from someone's Instagram. He's had some pretty sweet covers in the past, even ones that are pretty basic like College Dropout that were still pretty fresh.

    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    He said that's what it was going to be at 1 stage
    Hmm. Honestly, like Fro said, if it was part of the theme that would have worked out perfectly. Did he KILL his mom or did she die during some plastic surgery due to complications? I remember the story vaguely.

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    Yeah it was during the surgery. He blames him for the death it was a quick description of the situation

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    I am a few listens into Ye and it's good but not amazing as you said sof. Yikes is probably my favorite. He is stronger as a producer than a song writer right now and given how good the production on Daytona is, I cannot friggin wait for the Nas album. The Ye and Cudi should be cool but I prefer Cudi in small doses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel
    Growing up and to this day, album covers meant a lot to me. When I started doing music, early on a guy told me that the album cover would be one of the top 3 ingredients to selling my shit and probably the most important since it's the first thing people see. You could have a dog shit sounding album and nobody knows who you are, but if you're album cover looks sweet, they might just grab it.

    That's how a buddy of mine found out about a lot of underground shit like Esham for example. Here was a rapper with this Satanic imagery on his album cover. This was probably 1993, nobody in our area had a clue who this kid was but his album cover stood out like a sore thumb among the likes of Naughty by Nature and the like where it was usually just dudes in black leather standing in the streets. Esham had some crazy ass album covers.

    I just can't imagine someone not on Kanye's level dropping some cover like that....but then again, I'm 36.....I was able to experience the joy of album artwork unlike many younger than me who could not give a fuck less as long as it downloaded to their Apple device.

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    Idk, was that an album cover he had?
    What genre of music do you make?

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    He's in a German Oi band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    Yeah it was during the surgery. He blames him for the death it was a quick description of the situation
    She died the day after surgery, at her home.

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    this is a great season for (mainstream) hip hop

    Ye
    Pusha
    ASAP (solid album as usual)
    Nas
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    Gambino (soon?)
    Black Thought - Stream of Thought Vol 1 (check this if you haven't yet)
    J. Cole & Cardi B albums came out not that long ago

    I'm eatin like I haven't in a while

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    Have just given Ye the one listen so far, but I really like it. First impression has it above his last couple, but will give it 2 or 3 more spins before I settle on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmo Fortyone View Post
    Have just given Ye the one listen so far, but I really like it. First impression has it above his last couple, but will give it 2 or 3 more spins before I settle on it.
    I like it although I think it's my least favorite Kanye album. It's got some good stuff but for a 24 minute album it just doesn't pack enough punch, unlike the Pusha album which is flawless so I don't mind the length. Violent Crimes is my favorite at the moment, I think it's a pretty great father to daughter track with Kanye being at his most real on this album. No Mistakes and Yikes are my other favorites. I Thought About Killing You is interesting, once the beat kicks in and he starts rapping it's a pretty fire intro, but the beginning part goes on a little long. Ghost Town was my least favorite at first but it's grown on me. Cudi sounds pretty bad on it but the ending part by 070 Shake (nothing hurts anymore, I feel kinda freeeeee) is satisfying even though it sounds like some teenage pop shit.

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    Ghost town is the standout track you maniac

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    Ghost town is the standout track you maniac
    cudi sounds constipated on it.

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    You are formally banned from listening to kids see ghosts.

    Banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    You are formally banned from listening to kids see ghosts.

    Banned.
    he pretty much always sounds constipated. I have long been intrigued by the appeal of Kid Cudi. I mean I'm not a hater, I enjoy his contributions to Kanye stuff and Day and Night was a jam, but does he even have a good voice? I can't tell. It sounds like monotone moaning most of the time but there's something about it that's soothing. He has good melody. idk he is an enigma. I will report back when Kids See Ghosts drops on whether I can tolerate him in larger doses.

    I like ghost town though, it's grown on me as I said and I find myself listening to it frequently. the end part gives me the feels but then again so does a lot of pop music. seems like a fairly divisive song, some people say it's the best and some say it's the worst.

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    Immortal Technique is performing at the GotJ this year.

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    I saw Eminem at Boston Calling and he was great. There were only a couple songs on the set list that shouldn't have been on there (Cinderalla Man, Nowhere Fast) but other than that it was a great set. He was on his game. There's something so satisfying about seeing a guy like him with a huge catalog that you know pretty much all the words to and singing along with the live performance. I probably marked out the most for Kill You.

    If you can see him at any of his upcoming stops (he's doing a couple more in the US before heading to Europe), I recommend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVDA View Post
    Immortal Technique is performing at the GotJ this year.
    So far I've heard:

    Esham
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    RA the Rugged Man w/ A.F.R.O.
    Yelawolf
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    Attila
    Killjoy Club (ICP and 3 6 Maia supergroup for those that don't know)

    Other than CKY and Attila this is starting to look pretty sweet. The 1 thing that pisses me off is that Gathering they had where the dumb ass fans (not all) were douchebags toward the likes of Method Man, Redman, a few others. It was that same one where someone threw a shit/pissed filled watermelon at Tia Tequila (which was still fucking disturbing). I think that soured a lot of legit artists coming to future Gatherings.

    I also hope that they put Cage on the main stage this year and not that bitch ass early afternoon side stage slot he got last year. Honestly, I was thinking Cage's next record, the Sam Hill one, should be a Psychopathic release.

    And I know it's not going to happen but I would love to see some MNE flavor. Twiztid, ROC, G-Mo, Lex the Hexmaster, but it's probably not going to happen. Just judging by certain posts on social media it does seem like some of the bullshit is finally dying down. ICP posted a pic of The ROC a week or 2 ago, I think for his birthday or some shit Idk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I saw Eminem at Boston Calling and he was great. There were only a couple songs on the set list that shouldn't have been on there (Cinderalla Man, Nowhere Fast) but other than that it was a great set. He was on his game. There's something so satisfying about seeing a guy like him with a huge catalog that you know pretty much all the words to and singing along with the live performance. I probably marked out the most for Kill You.

    If you can see him at any of his upcoming stops (he's doing a couple more in the US before heading to Europe), I recommend it.
    I wonder why he stopped touring. I mean not completely but it seems like he hasn't gone on a real tour in over 10 years. My ex-wife got to see him on the Anger Management tour (I think that's what it was called). That's the Eminem I wish I could have seen live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    So far I've heard:

    Esham
    GWAR
    RA the Rugged Man w/ A.F.R.O.
    Yelawolf
    CKY
    Attila
    Killjoy Club (ICP and 3 6 Maia supergroup for those that don't know)

    Other than CKY and Attila this is starting to look pretty sweet. The 1 thing that pisses me off is that Gathering they had where the dumb ass fans (not all) were douchebags toward the likes of Method Man, Redman, a few others. It was that same one where someone threw a shit/pissed filled watermelon at Tia Tequila (which was still fucking disturbing). I think that soured a lot of legit artists coming to future Gatherings.

    I also hope that they put Cage on the main stage this year and not that bitch ass early afternoon side stage slot he got last year. Honestly, I was thinking Cage's next record, the Sam Hill one, should be a Psychopathic release.

    And I know it's not going to happen but I would love to see some MNE flavor. Twiztid, ROC, G-Mo, Lex the Hexmaster, but it's probably not going to happen. Just judging by certain posts on social media it does seem like some of the bullshit is finally dying down. ICP posted a pic of The ROC a week or 2 ago, I think for his birthday or some shit Idk.
    People are trying to make peace, but a couple people (Monoxide and G-Mo) don't know when to shut up. I wouldn't be surprised if Monoxide is murdered within the next few years because of his mouth. I think I'm going this year. I can't survive camping for 4-5 days, so we're getting a hotel room to crash and keep all of our stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVDA View Post
    People are trying to make peace, but a couple people (Monoxide and G-Mo) don't know when to shut up. I wouldn't be surprised if Monoxide is murdered within the next few years because of his mouth. I think I'm going this year. I can't survive camping for 4-5 days, so we're getting a hotel room to crash and keep all of our stuff.
    What's funny is Monoxide will be the first one to be all "I'm not this and that" and try to show love to "juggalos" or whoever. He will call out some of these geeks online like Child's Play Ninja but they have people like him on their end who actually work for them like that big idiot who tags along with Madrox everyone, Big Vin or whoever the fuck that juggalo nerd is.

    GMO I don't think has really said much has he? He did the Violent J diss track which is funny as hell but didn't really do anything because the gap between Violent J's popularity and legend status and G-Mo is like Mars to Earth so it kinda fell on deaf ears.

    It did feel like half of Year of the Sword were weird disses on ICP and their crew but oh well, everyone knows MNE is dope but will never be on that same level which is probably why they have such a hard time accepting reality.

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    kids see ghosts is very good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    kids see ghosts is very good
    it sure is. Cudi fam for life. I know the homie Ringo is loving it. I havent spoken to him like but it's the bond us Cudi fans have

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