Always Strive and Prosper.
Untitled Unmastered
There's a lot going on
Awaken my love is an amazing album. Would add it but doesn't feel like a Hip Hop album.
Always Strive and Prosper.
Untitled Unmastered
There's a lot going on
Awaken my love is an amazing album. Would add it but doesn't feel like a Hip Hop album.
RTJ3 is really great. I've only listened to it once through but it's right up there with 1 and 2. And if we count it as a 2016 album (I think it dropped a day or 2 before new years), it would be near the top of the list.
Yo, Mr. Diesel, peep this shit out.....
Production on this is amazing.
Got tickets for the RTJ tour again. AMPED. They are coming to Belfast as well.
Listening to Bucket List Project by Saba a lot at the minute. It's fantastic.
For fans of Rahzel and DBZ, I found this dope ass video someone made for The 4 Elements. The editing is fucking superb, and it fits perfectly.
Not a big Fantano guy but this is a good video. Good ranking/recap of each album in Kanye's career. And I just want to comment on one thing. He said:
"MBDTF is probably the biggest 2nd wind any hip hop artist has ever received in their career"
...but I would actually put Nas's Stillmatic ahead of this. people forget how much Nas had fallen off before Stillmatic and how much it brought him back to the top of hip hop.
speaking of, just picked up the awesome Watch The Throne 2x LP set. man, really enjoyed that album.
Kendrick season
The Heart Pt 4 is dope as fuck.
Y'all got 'til April the 7th to get y'all shit together...
Also I'm feeling the new Drake album. It's too long in typical Drake fashion but good vibes.
Saw rtj again this week. Amazing.
Funny little story. Last time I saw them I started a rtj chant and it really took on. Turns out the fucking used that one on the album. I thought it was a common thing that happened but nope they used the one from Dublin that I fucking started. I'm pretty much in run the jewels guys
That is very cool but how do you know that's the case? Like did they say it at the show this week?
He tweeted last night
Been banging "I'll sleep when you're dead" a lot recently.
It's fantastic. EL-P is a gift from the gods.
Damn, RIP Prodigy of Mobb Deep.
Yep. I was reading an article that was posted up on Yahoo and the article ends with talking about his battle with sickle cell and the article goes "This was first brought to national attention in the infamous 2Pac diss on Biggie". Just odd. I'll admit, never listened to Mobb Deep that much. Those 2 were dope as fuck though.Originally Posted by Fro
Damn, RIP Prodigy of Mobb Deep.
It's odd but it's absolutely the truth. Every 90s hip hop fan knows Prodigy had sickle cell because of that song.
The Infamous is a classic album for sure. Will bump it this week in memory of Prod.
Holy fuck, I can't believe I just heard this! It took me a while to start digging into Mobb Deep and Prodigy, but man that dude was mad lyrical. Another damn shame.
I think The Infamous was the first album I got into that was beyond the chart stuff. No idea how I got into it but fuck it was so good. Very sad news.
I think what has to be respected from Mobb Deep is that here you had 2 very young dudes, what, 19-20 when they dropped Infamous? And they made most of the beats on that album which I didn't know until years later. Just another classic example of why the 90's is a very hard decade to fuck with in terms of music. But obviously growing up in that decade, I'm a little biased.
Hell on Earth (their follow up album) was also very well received. I haven't listened to that one in probably a decade though. I want to give it a spin soon.
And yea their production was on point and underrated
Yeah Hell On Earth is great too. With a more critical eye you would probably say that everything since has been inferior but given his passing it seems reasonable to focus on just how good those two albums were.
Quiet Storm tho, what a track
Was at a dj premier show last night in Boston. Playing with a live band it was very good
How did it work with a live band? As in people were playing did drum loops and bass lines or actually playing his samples as well? I saw him live a few years ago and even got to shake his hand. Think he might be my favourite hip-hop artist of all time, ahead of any rapper.
Are you considered a live band if your instrument is playing drum loops and samples? That actually would be kind of cool to have like one DJ who just played the drum loops, another played the synth, another played the bass loops, I'm sure there's gotta be something like this.
He's touring with a bass player and drummer and trombone player and they are kind of riffing over some of the songs he's produced and he's scratching. It was a lot of fun
Quite a lot of minimal tech/house DJ's play with live instruments and its always class. laurent garnier is easily the king of this.
TAPS AFF!
The Jay-Z album is pretty solid. Definitely a worthy addition to his catalog, especially at age 47. It's like the polar opposite of Magna Carta Holy Grail - on that one he made bangers in tune with the musical style of the day, whereas this one is all low key production from No ID and more introspective subject matter. Marcy Me is my favorite track - it's the one that almost sounds like classic Jay, lyrically.
Otherwise, been listening to Big Fish Theory by Vince Staples a bit, and The Manuscript by Vic Mensa. Both solid, probably prefer the Vic even though it's just 4 tracks.
I heard Boomiverse by Big Boi was really good, need to check it out.
And I'm seeing Kendrick next Saturday
R.I.P. Fresh Kid Ice aka The Chinaman of 2 Live Crew. I got to see them perform multiple times and got to party with him and Fish N Grits at the strip club near my house back in 2006. Cool peeps and down with the clown for life. MCL homie.
Also, The Defiant Ones is pretty cool. Dre and Jimmy's stories are both interesting.
R. Kelly is probably running a fucked up sex cult.
R. Kelly Is Holding Women Against Their Will In A “Cult,” Parents Told Police
I'm predicting several hacky "Trapped in the Closet" jokes will be made.
DVR'd all four episodes and started watching it last night. Very interesting so far, and I'm halfway into episode two. Big Dre fan, so it's really interesting to learn new stuff.
Stevie Nicks was so hot back in the day.
I just came in to post about that.
Phenomenal.
I saw he posted something on social media and had to tune in. This motherfucker is the best. He's not my favorite, but he is imo the best rapper of all time. He's Jordan. And it's moments like this where you appreciate the impact music can have. It had to be this dude, not necessarily because he's white but because he's someone who's always tried to have something important to say more often than not. As years have gone by I've just shook my head in shame at shit like DJ Khaled flaunting his infant son around all weird like, horrid rappers flooding the show, and to have Em drop this, it was fucking incredible!!
yea good shit
he's supposed to come out with a new album soon too
The only thing I was surprised about was he didn't say anything about Flint, MI.
If he's getting political again, I'm in.
It's fucking pathetic how the music industry has muzzled the political messages artists try to project really since the 80's. Music, not the NFL, used to be the place we'd look for to get that release. I remember back when I was super young, 8-10 years old, being consumed by the messages that came through via music. I mean for fuck's sake my last album has the severed head of the statue of liberty on it. Now it's like this political message is only reserved for the elite of the elite. You didn't see Migos or Cardi B out there with any kind of real message in any of their music. Too many dudes are about getting those face tats looking like idiots. Eminem came out there and did what he should be doing way more on his records but when he does man it's fire.
I haven't listened to much new rap this year but what's your guys' song of the year so far and why is it Marcy Me by Jay-Z?
lol.
That's literally one of the few new songs I've heard.
I don't listen to a lot of mainstream rap. Beats are weak, rhymes are terrible, I might sound like a "my gen is better" type but the last time I really really soaked up the mainstream scene was early 2000's. When you had Jay-Z, Eminem, 50 Cent, etc. all going strong. Once Lil Wayne took over I just stopped. Respect to a lot of these cats like Kanye, Lil Wayne, Kendrick, etc. but I'm a creature of habit and very little mainstream rap appeals to me. I'm more of an under underground dude.
havent heard the album yet but this single is pretty dope. always will love wu-tang
That was strong...
havent heard the album yet but this single is pretty dope. always will love wu-tang
Completely out of the loop nowadays but this is a fucking firebomb.
https://soundcloud.com/denzilporter/...like-yesterday
That was real good.
ND, do you think Migos and Cardi B maybe don't want to have any sort of political/real message in their music, or do you think the record companies are preventing them from doing so? Legit question, only because I don't listen to a lot of rap and very little current rap. The few I do listen to are in no way, shape, or form anything close to political or having a message in their music. Do you think it's a case of the record companies pushing music with no message or more a case of the record companies actively ignoring those artists with political messages?
I'd rather listen to Lil Wayne than any of them pole smokers.
It's definitely record companies, radio, etc. pushing music that doesn't go too deep. Dumb it down is what they will tell you. And then the backhanded excuse is that the mainstream doesn't want to hear about politics they want an escape. This is nothing new and a lot of older artists would disguise messages that were meaningful but you didn't know what the fuck they were talking about until they flat out told you or 30 years later on a Behind the Music they told you. The flipside is how many times did we think there was some deep meaning behind a song and the singer goes "No it was just about us eating seeds to pass time, no hidden meaning." Kurt Cobain, revered as one of the greatest lyricists by many, he freely admits most of his shit wasn't some deep metaphor about life or whatever. Chino from the Deftones, same thing. Most of his songs do not have any meaning they're words that sound good when he sings them.
And I do think that there are artists who just simply don't have those kind of messages. Vince Neal from Motley Crue has flat out said in response to the "grunge" era that he just wanted to do music that was about having fun, partying, girls, to escape from the miserable real world. I don't think they were trying to shine light on the drug scene in LA with "Dr. Feelgood" to change anything, they were just talking about real experiences and doing drugs was the shit to them.
And it's also sad when artists like that one day decide they want to start having real messages and influence on the world and people laugh at them. If Justin Bieber and Migos did a political track, they'd be shit on.
Wayne is a pole smoker but he cool
Real talk though Cash Money was on fire for a minute back in the day. Especially after Juvenile learned to rap. Mannie Fresh is still one of the best producers in the game too.
No Limit 4 Life. Well until everyone had their 2nd album after they all blew up. Mystikal's "Unpredictable" is one of the best rap albums ever and his follow up to that fucking sucked. Tru.
I remember everybody grouped up in highschool. Not just all the juggalos kickin it, but the dudes that liked Wu hated No Limit and Cash Money and so on with each of them. Then the metal kids all hated rap except for a couple that liked ICP.
Make Em Say Uhh is one of the dopest videos ever though.
Mannie Fresh was great that's why Tha Carter 1 is the best Wayne album. Most people will say TC2 or TC3 are better but that Mannie Fresh production can't be beat.
Also while I was big on No Limit and especially the "Make em say UHHHH" video at the time, I'm not sure any of it has held up well. Master P was kinda wack on retrospect.
IMO, there's a reason the label went out the way it did and that's because as I said, pretty much everything that came out after they blew up was not very good at all. Mystikal is kind of a different story as his 2nd album on No Limit was weak as hell in every aspect but then he left and blew the fuck up even more with Tarantula.
I remember it was almost a thing to collect as many No Limit albums you could. That album artwork was pimp for the time. I remember 1996-1997 hearing "Tru 2 da Game" and playing the fuck out of that tape. Never really liked anything Master P did on his own, but that TRU shit was dope. Mystikal, Mr Serv-On, Skull Duggery, and C-Murder, those were imo the best solo albums they ever put out on that label. I also liked the format of the albums, almost all of them started out with a crazy No Limit family track with 7-8 cats on.
Anyone own "I'm Bout It"? Dug that shit.
Eminem's new album will be called Revival.
http://askaboutrevival.com
Thought that site was a redirect from a dead link. Then read "Popsomp Industries" at the bottom.
yea funny viral marketing strategy. it hasn't been officially announced yet but they're subtly pointing people to these Revival prescription drug ads which make it pretty apparent
I can fuck with the Bey hook, the lowkey beat, the subject matter.... Em's flow is weak on this though. I don't know if you can even call it a flow.
Still psyched for his album though.
Eminem is one of those dudes who I can still respect his hustle, his delivery. But he fell into the same trap that Foo Fighters did years ago.
Remember when Foo Fighters did the songs "Best of You" and "Times Like These". Big fucking hits for them. But then the mainstream has expected that kind of Foo Fighters so gone are the days of "Stacked Actors" and "Hey Johnny Park" and we get "Times Like These"/"Best of You" tracks all over the fucking place. I LOVE Foo Fighters, easily in my top 5 I own everything. But part of me still goes "Fuck they need to get back to mixing it up like they did on the 2nd and 3rd albums".
Eminem...Same shit. Does "Lose Yourself" and it was such a great song that he had to continue that vibe. He's a pop artist for sure, and I think that it takes away from what brought him to the dance. That record he had like Rihanna, Pink, it was fucking weak because you know 15 years ago those were the artists he would be spitting on that were lame. Now he's that lame dude but still a killer on the mic when need be.
So this Beyonce shit.....The song isn't bad but I'm just not feelin the overall package, really since 2002-2003.
Eminem is infuriating because he's never become so shit that you can just forget about him, every album has at least a couple of worthwhile tracks and every now and then he will put out something that stands up to his very best work. Bad Guy off the last album is one of the best things he's ever done imo.
2 songs that altered Eminem's music forever were Lose Yourself and Cleanin Out My Closet. After that it was trying to sing, trying to do the boring mainstream concept of "You can make it if you just try don't let anyone hold you back" that just plagues so many artists. Really in the mainstream pop genre there are 5 topics: Money, Fuckin, Love, Heartbreak, and Rising Above. Most of the time you get 3-4 of those in one song by 79 different artists which is why I have so much trouble fucking with pop music.
I heard a song last night, by who I have no clue, but the flow was really tight like something you'd hear out out Big Boi from Outkast. But the lyrics fucking sucked. These dudes with tats on their faces and neck rappin about being a pussy whipped dumbass just sucks. Macklemore probably got a tat over his eyebrow now that says "Progressive". Who knows.
Where does RA The Rugged Man rank for some of you? I always enjoyed his stuff. Weird that as long as he's been around he's only dropped 2 full lengths. First time I heard his actual music was on the Smut Peddler's record when I bought that shit back in 2001 but I had heard of him from other rappers. They'd hear my shit and go "You ever hear of RA the Rugged Man? He's out there like your shit". I love listening to him chop it up with people.
For me in terms of "ranking" and I don't mean #47 out of 100 I just mean how do you feel about him, but I would put him up there with some of the best. The only negative is that more often than not the beats he raps over for his own shit aren't that good.
I am constantly told he is brilliant, but whenever I've dipped in I haven't heard anything that has made me want to search out more. One of those that rewards greater effort I guess - RTJ is another one, I just don't get it at all.
RTJ is pretty instantly great, I mean their first two albums are both fire.
See, I'm not a fan of EL-P but I love his weird ass beats. With RTJ, I dig it but I was more into for the Zach De La Rocha collab.
I've seen RA The Rugged Man live twice and dude is sick with it. First time I seen him with Potluck, Whitney Peyton, & Black Pegasus. Second time with ICP, Lyte, and Ouija Macc. My favorite verse of his isn't even on one of his own songs. It's with Block McCloud and Celph Titled.
No idea if this guy is well known but fucking hell this is fire...
https://soundcloud.com/flashius/kobe...-by-farmabeats
Hard as fuck and the beat is magical. Holy fuck good find dude.
What's the best diss record of all time?
I wouldn't say it's the BEST but one that I always found to be super slick was the first Eminem diss record on Benzino.
My favorite though is the song that truly made me start to love rap when I was like 10-11:
IMO Eminem's best one is I Remember. It's quite far removed from your usual diss tracks in that the first two thirds is a satire of the sort of music Everlast was doing as well as being a diss...real layered stuff. The rapped verse at the end is amazing as well. I love The Sauce too, but its such an easy target that it's less impressive.
In terms of pure loving the sound of it I'd say Zealots by The Fugees is my favourite diss ever...but I wasn't even aware it was attacking anyone in particular until relatively recently, I just loved it as a song. The best track on one of the best ever hip-hop albums.
who is zealots dissing?
Jeru the Damaja.
Interesting. Anyway, best beef tracks is a good question. I think Nail in the Coffin is a great shout, that would be my top Eminem pick and near the top of my list. It also has my favorite multi of all time:
If you was really selling coke well then what the fuck you stop for dummy if you slew some crack / you'd make a lot more money than you do from rap
That line is so perfect lyrically, like 8 syllables of rhyming, while also being an extremely witty and cutting diss.
So here would be my top 5, in no order:
Nail in the Coffin (Em at Benzino)
2nd Round K.O. (Canibus at LL Cool J)
The Ripper Strikes Back (LL at Canibus)
The Bridge is Over (BDP at MC Shan/Juice Crew)
Hit Em Up (2pac at Biggie/Junior Mafia/East Coast)
2nd Round KO gets more hype than Ripper Strikes Back but to be honest LL's comeback was maybe even better. Those two tracks make an incredible tandem of disses. Hit Em Up might need to be #1 on any list, it's that good/classic. Related note I love on Quitter by Eminem when he goes into the Hit Em Up beat. That part is an incredible tear down of Everlast. The Bridge is Over is that original. I mean idk if it was truly the first big diss record but it was so classic, even if the beat now sounds stale. Very monumental moment for hip hop.
Takeover would probably be my first honorable mention. It's more of an all-out assault on hip hop than a true diss track, even though it goes directly after Nas and Mobb Deep. It's an incredibly aggressive song and represented the beginning of Jay's second half of his career, declaring that he wasn't just a pop rapper but was in fact the King of New York.
It's funny you mentioned The Bridge Is Over cuz the G Rap interview with DJ Vlad about that song made me post the question I did.
Takeover is so nice. Brutal.
No Vaseline obviously.
I'm on my phone or Id post it but a great diss track for sheer lyrical entertainment is Copywrite dissing Asher Roth over like 9 different Em beats.
3rd Bass Pop Goes the Weasel. Ironic diss track.
No Vaseline is classic but it never quite popped for me as one of my all time favorites, same with Bitch in Yoo by Common (@ Cube). I mean both are true classics but I was never bumping them much. Bitch in Yoo is very well written it's just kinda dull musically. Props to Common though because he's a conscious rapper who came with an incredible diss aimed at one of the hardest gangsta rappers ever.
Ether is an obvious answer but I think most hip hop heads know it's somewhat overrated.
Dre Day and Real Mothafuckin G's (by Eazy E back at Dre/Snoop) are both great.
I also have a soft spot for 300 Bars and Runnin (Game @ G-Unit). It's super long and isn't THAT great on retrospect but the way he rapped over like 10 classic beats, I used to bump that song HARD.
Walk on Water has grown on me a lot and this SNL performance with Skylar Grey was quality. Kinda marked out when they went into Stan.
In other news, I went to the Jay-Z's 4:44 tour tonight and it was AWESOME. It's really remarkable how at age 47 he's still one of the 2 best live rap performers today (along with Kanye). The two of them, they just know how to put on a stadium show. Hip hop as a genre struggles with live performances but they always put together incredibly produced sets with top audio quality (the audio is where most hip hop shows struggle, with the bass often overwhelming the vocals so you can't even hear what they're rapping). I also went to the Damn Tour earlier this year and while Kendrick put in a lot of effort, it was not really close to the caliber of performance Jay did tonight in Boston. Kendrick suffered from the typical audio woes and also just didn't have nearly as good of production value (plus obviously Jay has about 10x more hit songs to get the crowd going). Jay did a 360 stage in the middle of the arena, it was a black circle that rose up like a mountain or fell flat at different times, and had these cool looking angled tv screens surrounding it from above that would also move around, sinking to the point of almost touching the stage or rising up to the top of the arena. Very cool.
I highly recommend seeing it if you can catch this before the tour ends. Tickets arent that pricey either - I think it's even been struggling to sell out. Jay did an hour and 40 minutes and it was all superb. He did about half the songs of 4:44, a couple of which were unnecessary, but they were sprinkled in with so many hits from his catalogue that you couldn't complain. Vic Mensa was a solid opener, to boot.
I welled up a bit when Jay did Numb/Encore and dedicated it to Chester Bennington (spoiler: he actually ended the show with that). Then he exited through the audience with crowds of people rushing him to give him daps. He slowly made his way out through the embrace of the fans, like an old school rock star. The whole thing gave me chills.
tracklist. 12/15 release
Beyonce, Ed Sheeran, Alicia Keys, Pink. I like all of them but none of them should be anywhere near an Eminem album for me.
This is insanely good. Is he well known in the States? First I've heard of him but it's an instant game changer.
Eminem is a pop star and has been since 8 Mile. I love the guy, mad love for Slim but call him what he is and you'll understand that yes, all of those names belong on an Em record because he's the white Jay-Z. Jay can have those same people and nobody would think twice. Shit Em has had Pink on a record. But after he did "Lose Yourself", and we've talked about this recently, it was all pop radio records for the most part.
He'll put a collab with Crooked I on a Shady mixtape but don't look for anyone that isn't a pop "rapper" or artist to find a slot on any of his solo releases. I'm serious look at his collabs, he's no different than any other mainstream pop artist. Great rapper, and shit he said he was going to retire at 30 and shit on Benzino for rapping at the same age lol. Timeless though.
Oh yeah I get that entirely, I just don't want them there. All his beat albums were restricted to unknown singers like Dana Rae or, at worst, legends od R&B like Nate Dogg. The majority of guest spots were acclaimed rappers. Guest spots like Beyonce and Pink more or less guarantee those songs aren't gonna be ones I like, so seeing so many of them on one tracklist is a let down. I'm sure there will still be a couple of real hiphop tracks because there are always are, and they should be great. But every album he moves slightly away from what I want to hear.
The solo stuff is good for the overall audience he's aiming for but I'm more into the lesser hyped stuff. That's where he really flexes his skills and doesn't feel restrained by the expectations of 13 year old Jennifer.
Did anyone listen to that Joyner Lucas thing? It's incredible, seriously. So much anger and power.
Good grief, that new Eminem song.
I don't think it's that bad.
a few weeks old but we should mention that Ma$e dropped a fire diss of Cam'ron
Never liked Ma$e and him ducking out the game to be a pastor only to come back and pretend he's the old Ma$e made it even worse.
WITH THAT SAID. Can't deny his skill. And I gotta be honest....this dude v. Cam'ron is like 2 old dudes at a nursing home scrappin over chess pieces. They're not old in age but old in tenure in the rap game, they should be worrying about other shit or taking it to the streets.
You know who I wish I had the shot with? Pepa from Salt N Pepa. I saw her a couple years ago and she still looked hot. Treach was lucky.
I've known about Crooked I for as long as I can remember. Back when he would have his boys post on underground message boards 10-15 years ago hypin his shit. But I never listened to much of his stuff until Slaughterhouse. This is a really good record. The collabs....RZA, Tech N9ne, Eminem, Xzibit....4 of the dopest emcees ever. X is such a slept on emcee it's not even funny. No Pink or Maya on this shit lol.
So are we gonna talk about Revival and how average it is?
I would agree with calling it average/mediocre. I think some hip hop heads have gone overboard in how much they hate it. There's some good stuff on there but it's a difficult album to listen to in its entirety. Obviously needs to be shorter. Obviously needs fewer female singer hooks. I'm fine with a few of those but he does so many. Framed, Castle and Arose are the standout tracks I'd say. The Ed Sheeran feature is really good. His hook is the best part of that song. I could see that being a hit.
I thought this review was on point, a bit harsh but hits the nail on the head in terms of how Em's flow can be so frustrating now.
http://uproxx.com/realtalk/eminem-revival-revivew/3/
The popular criticism seems to be his choice of features, which shouldn't really be an issue if the tracks were good. Like that Ed Sheeran feature is good, and I like the X Ambassadors one as well.
For me, I don't like the way he flows any more. Its almost like a caricature of the old Eminem, as if at some point someone told him "Give me more Eminem. Dial that shit up.", and now he kinda has the same style with his rhymes but it seems more forced. A part of me feels like Marshal himself would probably like to play around and trying new things but people tell him "Don't do that. Give us more of this instead. The fans love this".
IMO it started after the backlash from the Relapse album. Personally I loved the hell out of it. Unlike most people, I got that it was a concept album and Em was sort of playing a character. But that was his big come back and people didn't accept the accent and everything, so from then on he started to fade out the kinda wacky stuff and drift towards the style we see today because I think he was led to believe that's what people want to hear.
I don't want to hear what he thinks I want to hear. I want to hear what he would personally want to make. And I partly blame his fans for this.
Said it before and I'll say it again. I haven't really cared for most of Em's solo releases in forever. But the stuff like Bad Meets Evil or the Shady compilations that shit is usually more my speed. He'll always be someone who will deliver a handful of decent tracks but his solo releases more often than not are just lackluster.
I don't really listen to hip hop in the slightest but I picked up Gucci Mane's autobiography from the library to read on my Christmas vacation. I also picked up Roddy Piper's biography but last I checked, he doesn't do the hip hopping.
There's actually a couple of decent songs towards the end of the Revival that sound more like the Eminem of his heyday but the majority of the album is horrendous and I cringed my way through it all.
Who told this dude he could sing is all I'm wanting to know? Stop singing Em. I have to say though, you take away all the pop bullshit and he's still pretty nice on the mic. I don't want to say the mainstream is passing him by but when you look at the mainstream "hip hop" records, where's the talent?
That's one thing about Em you can never take away is he has always had talent. He's not someone that you'd go "Ah he's only considered nice because he's pop and nobody on the pop level is fucking with me". Yeah you have Jay-Z, but he's transcended hip hop, he's on that next level shit nobody is really at with talent, record sales, etc. Even he just dropped a subpar record in comparison to his earlier records. 4:44 had the lyrics, but it wasn't a Jay-Z record imo. Like Rappaport said, where were the SMACKERS?
I think there's a solid album in there. If you take out Remind Me, Nowhere Fast, Offended and Need Me then you've got a pretty solid 14-track, 60 minute album. Still would get shit on probably but IMO a worthy addition to his catalogue. As released it's certainly very long and clunky and hard to get through.
Improved version:
Walk On Water (feat. Beyoncé)
Believe
Chloraseptic (feat. PHRESHER)
Untouchable
River (feat. Ed Sheeran)
Revival (Interlude)
Like Home (feat. Alicia Keys)
Bad Husband (feat. X Ambassadors)
Tragic Endings (feat. Skylar Grey)
Framed
Heat
In Your Head
Castle
Arose
Like Home and River are really growing on me. I fuck with them both a lot.
I think my big issue is that I'm not a mainstream rap fan and the shit that I do listen to that's "mainstream" I don't buy the records because they only have maybe that 1 song I hear that's actually good to begin with. Like I'm over here playing the fuck out of the RA-AFRO-Gift to Gab collab over anything any mainstream artist is doing. I don't consider myself a big hip hop head but more of an underground head these last 15-20 years. 20+ years ago you could have some whack shit like Snow but then greatness like Wu Tang on the same station back to back. Today, you'd be lucky to hear anything of real substance. We need more KXNG CROOKED, less Future.
RIP Combat Jack
Yea just saw that shit
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