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    They're fucking lost.

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    I am so excited. St. Louis made some strides towards securing one of the new expansion teams to MLS. There is a rumor they already have a verbal agreement. Not sure if I buy that exactly but it should be pretty easy to get one of the teams once they actually get the stadium deal done. They have the land but they will need some public funding so got to get that done. I actually truly have hope a team is coming now for the first time.

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    Just ready a different article and sounds like actually it is pretty much a done deal and that MLS plans on helping them out with things. Awesome.

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    Bye Klinsmann.

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    Now all the US soccer fans can blame everything on the fired coach for all of their failures.

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    Wouldn't that make us English?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soxfanatic View Post
    Now all the US soccer fans can blame everything on the fired coach for all of their failures.
    The fact that we really didn't much under his guidence and that we had some horrible results shows that there was some blame for him. In fact our record against top teams was worse under him than any other US coach I believe. The US still needs to make some wholesale changes on how we develop players and such and look at models other countries use as for a more big picture thing. Klinsmann needed to go though.

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    Bruce Arena in

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    Oh my God

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    Is that bad? I have no idea, just seen it come up on Sky Sports News!

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    I have mixed feels on Arena. He did a pretty good job before hand and we went to the quarterfinals of a Cup under him. Then we promptly didn't make it out of the group 4 years later though. I think short term he can right the ship so to speak and get us through qualification and guide us in the next Cup. However unless we just turned things around in a huge way in that short of time I would like for the US to maybe go after someone else. I don't know. I liked Arena in the past but two different results at World Cups under him makes me worry a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Should never go back to former manager it never works out.

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    Unfortunately he won't get you up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Should never go back to former manager it never works out.
    More or less feel this way myself. I think there may be an exception or two but I don't think this would be one.

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    Mark it down: not qualifying for Russia.

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    Fucking Montreal. Can't even get the box width correct. Delaying a playoff game.

    Fucking pathetic.

    *edit* 52 minutes in. Well fuck.

    *second edit* 74 minutes in. GET INNNNNN. AWAY GOALLLLLS
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    Get in boys. MLS Cup Final here we come.

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    First time that an original MLS team won't be in the final. Pretty cool even though I really don't care who wins since it is not DC.

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    Villa named MVP

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    First time that an original MLS team won't be in the final. Pretty cool even though I really don't care who wins since it is not DC.
    Yeah looking forward to this, I like both teams.

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    I'm going to be freezing my ass off at the final. Looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Unfortunately he won't get you up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    I'm going to be freezing my ass off at the final. Looking forward to it.
    GO SOUNDERS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    GO SOUNDERS
    FUCK OFF LETS GO TORONTO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Oh right well done on getting promoted in December. When did they rule change happen?

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    Just saying, 3d bottom to a point off play offs in a month and a bit, not bad is it?

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    This is a bad game of football

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    Fuck me. Spent 120 minutes in the fucking cold to lose on pens to a team that had 0 shots on target. Awesome.

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    Ouch. I saw a little of it. Toronto was giving Seattle fits I kept waiting for a score. I hate a championship being decided on PKs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Fuck me. Spent 120 minutes in the fucking cold to lose on pens to a team that had 0 shots on target. Awesome.
    Awful. No way Sounders deserved to win.

    Pabs were you wearing a grey hat? I think you had TV time right near the end of normal time.

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    I was behind the TFC goal (at the end of normal time). I had on a hat that I guess could look gray. But it was one of those ones with flaps that come down the side with the faux fur. Kept me warm on my head at least.

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    ah nah this was just a woolly hat.

    I legit have no idea how you lost that. Frei deserves a medal for his save from Altidore. you guys were loud throughout too, kudos to you guys for that.

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    That save was beautiful. It was on the side I was on too. Fucking Frei. Former TFC as well. Makes it that much harder to take.

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    The governor-elect says he doesn't want any state or city money going to a new stadium in St. Louis. So they have postponed meetings to discuss putting this on the ballot in April. I understand wanting tax money to go to other things. I honestly do. But this group is paying over half of the stadium plus all the upkeep for 30 years while the city will get to own it and use it during the rest of the year to make money off it. Plus this group is going to be forking over 150 million in an expansion fee. They budgeted 200 million so when it was known it was going to be 150 million people have asked for them to put that towards the stadium and ask the public for less. They pointed out that they need it to handle maintence and upkeep. So yeah starting to look like this is going to be a big roadblock and if a deal is not done then MLS is not going to give us a team. I partially blame Kroenke and his fucked up shit with moving the Rams when the dome is still not completely paid for.

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    Talks about maybe a joint bid from US/Mexico/Canada. Meh. US could host on its own easily right now. The other team may need to build a few stadiums but could probably host on their own as well. Not sure we need to do a three way joint bid even if the field of teams is expanded.

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    Bradley didn't last long coaching in the Premier League I see. Not surprised honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Talks about maybe a joint bid from US/Mexico/Canada. Meh. US could host on its own easily right now. The other team may need to build a few stadiums but could probably host on their own as well. Not sure we need to do a three way joint bid even if the field of teams is expanded.
    While I agree we could host again with no problem, hell we've got a number of states with the facilities to host on their own, the idea of a continental bid sounds intriguing.

    On the other hand, this 48-team 16x3 Cup idea sounds fucking terrible.

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    Yeah I like 32 teams. I think you start to water it down too much if you expand. There will always be good teams that miss out on being in and that is just part of going through 2 years of qualification. Much like the NCAA basketball tournament where they keep adding teams and people keep wanting more. It will just water it down too much in my view.

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    Cash grab nonsense.

    And will it be the weaker Uzbekistan, Burkina Faso, New Zealand, Jordan, etc. kind of sides getting through in this or just the other half of Europe?

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    My guess is that we would get rid of the various playoffs. New Zealand would go through. We would probably get another slot. South America would get another slot. Asia and Africa probably get another slot each and the rest to Europe. My thoughts. Haven't really read what people are thinking in terms of where those slots would go.

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    Also seems to me that three-team two-game groups would make for a really risky affair. And not in a good way.

    Are there any tourneys that've used that format in the past that I could look to to see how it went?

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    So much for a MLS team in St. Louis. Fucking hell. New governor has said he will not back any funding for a stadium of any sort. Because of that now the city is basically saying they won't put it up for a vote either. They want the group to pay more of the stadium and also cited the fact that the state is not going to help either. Fuck Kroenke and the Rams. They are big reason this won't get done. The sour taste all that left in people's mouth after a stadium deal was done and rushed in to try to keep them. Who cares that this group is paying for 60% at least of the stadium plus going to do upkeep for 30 years while the city owns the stadium and can use it for what it wants outside of the MLS season. It would do a lot of good but because nope can't have it because its sports.

    Ugh put it up for a vote. If it gets shot down by voters then so be it.

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    I don't know what the economy in St. Louis is like, but to only pay 40% for a soccer stadium, which is relatively small compared to a baseball or especially NFL stadium while OWNING IT and being able to bring in whatever events/concerts you want seems pretty short-sighted to me given the revenue and jobs it would generate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot View Post
    I don't know what the economy in St. Louis is like, but to only pay 40% for a soccer stadium, which is relatively small compared to a baseball or especially NFL stadium while OWNING IT and being able to bring in whatever events/concerts you want seems pretty short-sighted to me given the revenue and jobs it would generate.
    The board of alderman were already kind of split on putting it on the ballot but I think they were going to do it and let voters decide but then two things happened. First the new governor said he doesn't want to give any state money to a stadium. The ownership group had asked for some tax breaks and $40 million dollars. They asked the city for $80 million I think. Second thing is that MLS announced the expansion fee and it is $50 million less than what was expected so the city asked the group to put the extra $50 million towards the stadium and ask for less from the city. The ownership countered saying they need to put that money off to the side to help with that 30 years of upkeep on the stadium that they are proposing.

    Just bums me out because I feel that MLS has basically almost come out and said if St. Louis gets the stadium and applies and pays the fee that they are in.

    I get that sure that the money could be used for other things to help with the city and state I get that and I have friends even soccer fans that do not want to pay this money. I just wish they would put it up for a vote and let the voters decide. Last year with the new Rams stadium that was proposed it didn't go up for a vote and was just pushed through and that was shitty. It should have been voted on by the people and this should be too. Just put it up for a vote already. Hell we are already making more money off the dome now that the Rams are gone and they can use it how they want year round. Lets add to it.

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    So new deal on the table. Asking the city for $60 million instead of $80 million and been talking to the governor about how to work with him to get a stadium built without any money from the state. We shall see how this goes.

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    So didn't get out of committee to the whole board. Going to try again next week. This is a roller coaster ride of emotions for me to see if they can at least put it up to a public vote.

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    Well last shot today to get a stadium deal on the April ballot.

    MLS has stated that if we get the deal done and are given a team that they will award us the All-Star game within first 5 years the team exist.

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    Best of luck, St. Louis is a rightful soccer town.

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    Damn straight it is. Shame to not have a team here. If it fails guess I will keep supporting the local USL team

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    Didn't make it out of committee again. Looks to be dead. No way the ownership group can apply by Jan 31st without something on the table. My own alderman voted against it. He wanted a couple more changes to be made. I think today is the deadline to get it to a complete board of alderman vote to get it on the April ballot for vote by the people.

    edit: Spoke too soon. After a recess the committee huddle with ownership in the mayor's office and then came back together and voted again after some changes were made and now it will go to a vote of the whole board of alderman. If passed there they would need to ask the courts to allow it to go on the April ballot because it is technically past the deadline to put anything on there but there are few things that the aldermen want on that ballot besides this.
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    The ownership group has officially applied for an expansion team. So lets hope the stadium deal gets put to a vote and the people vote for it.

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    Just saw that MLS is wanting to bring in Real Madrid to play the All-Star team this season for the All-Star game. As nice as it is to bring in a team from across the pond I would still rather see it go back to the conference vs conference format. All the major sports leagues around here keep fucking around with their all star games. I guess I am an old man stuck in his ways but just like the traditional format.

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    Back on track of sorts for the national team after that 6-0 win. Still plenty of games to play though.

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    Dempsey within one goal of Donovan.

    Pulisic looks like the future even more than he did before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot View Post
    Pulisic looks like the future even more than he did before.
    I'm afraid to even discuss his ability/potential too much at this point..

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    No MLS for St. Louis. The city didn't pass the stadium deal.

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    Joint World Cup bid announced with Canada and Mexico.

    Be nice to see another World Cup here.

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    The bid looks likely to get it which of course means FIFA will probably give it to Cambodia.

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    We should be good. They know they screwed us last time. They are fast tracking it so it is set in place.

    I wonder what Mexico and Canada get out of this deal though. They only get 10 games each and nothing past the quarter finals.

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    Canada could potentially make a World Cup. That's what we'd gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Canada could potentially make a World Cup. That's what we'd gain.
    I guess that is true but honestly with the expanded tournament you guys had a decent shot at coming out of our region.

    Just seems like hardly worth having a joint bid when we are hosting 40 of the 60 games and everything quarter finals to the end.

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    They get 10 games. That's a pretty nice chunk of change, and neither country has to bankrupt themselves building stadiums they won't use afterward.

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    I still think they're gonna wind up giving it to Cambodia.

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    Man Pulisic is gonna be a joy to watch moving forward. Good work by Nagbe and Villafana as well.

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    Pulisic is a beast. What a man. What an American.

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    My local USL side Saint Louis FC is playing the Chicago Fire tomorrow in the US Open Cup here at home. Wish I could go.

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    wtf is this; https://twitter.com/kellierowe/statu...64241531420678

    Can anyone put any context to this nonsense?

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    the portland timbers chop a bit of wood during their games...
    TAPS AFF!

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    Wikipedia seems to suggest that Detroit City FC fans are a bit of a handful. Chants, smokebombs, marches, masks etc... and then get together once a half, chant the fucking Tetris theme and move from side to side like a bunch of idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    My local USL side Saint Louis FC is playing the Chicago Fire tomorrow in the US Open Cup here at home. Wish I could go.
    Was only 1-0 loss can't argue with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Plasma View Post
    Wikipedia seems to suggest that Detroit City FC fans are a bit of a handful. Chants, smokebombs, marches, masks etc... and then get together once a half, chant the fucking Tetris theme and move from side to side like a bunch of idiots.
    i cant tell you how angry that makes me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Plasma View Post
    wtf is this; https://twitter.com/kellierowe/statu...64241531420678

    Can anyone put any context to this nonsense?

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    Fuckn, no way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Was only 1-0 loss can't argue with that.
    Our keeper made some great saves from what I saw on the highlights. They pretty much controlled most of the game I think though but our guys had a few chances just not able to put them in the back of the net due to some nice saves by their keeper. Not a bad showing. Not like we are one of the top teams in the USL or anything. Near the bottom of the table right now.

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    AMERICA

    Maybe, just maybe, Bruce Arena's second time around could be something.

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    VAR is really awful. It ruins most MLS games now.

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    Dortmund probably wouldn't have minded some VAR in today's game against Spurs.

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    Yeah screw you Panama, enjoy that canal. BOOM AMERICA IS ALIVE BABY

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    We should not have struggled so much to qualify and we are not there yet.

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    How many regular games left and when do playoffs start?

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    Assuming you mean MLS

    2 regular season games left. Playoffs start Oct 25th.

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    Oct 22 is last day of the regular season. Playoffs start on Oct 25th

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    Jesus fucking Christ.

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    Thanks PD and MTR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot View Post
    Jesus fucking Christ.
    They played like shit most of the hex. No excuse to not finish in the top three. System needs an overhaul.

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    Arena stepped down. Probably before he got fired for the second time.

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    Yeah Arena, I'm sure they were going to keep you around.

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    How does Gulati stay on?

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    Beats me.

    Probably has the goods on someone.

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    Looks like no new coach to be named until after USSF president elections.

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    Also anyone know how Anton Walkes is getting on, again at Atlanta? He came from nowhere to be around our first team for the past two pre-seasons so I'm interested to know how he's getting on - not sure where he's playing now as in our youth teams he has played just about everywhere through the middle - centre back, centre mid, defensive mid, behind the striker and up front.

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    Almiron is a very very good player. Generally Atlanta have an awesome front line with Almiron, Asad, Villalba and Martinez (who has also been linked with a big money move to Europe). All four are, or will be, good enough to play in a major European league imo. Alex, who also watches a lot of MLS, might disagree but I think he's a big fan of that from four too. Almiron probably has the biggest ceiling for me and if Atlanta can keep those four (unlikely as I think Asad is on loan) they'll win MLS Cup within a couple of years.

    Walkes has played really well from what I've seen. Generally he's been used as a right back/right wing back but he played on the left of the defence at the weekend and was the stand out for me in that game. Atlanta play in the Eastern semi finals of the playoffs early Thursday morning. You should try and record it and watch. Atlanta are a good little side and their stadium is my favourite in football at the moment, crowd is on point and they've been the most the attended club in world football for a couple of weeks recently.

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    Nice write up on Atlanta United by the BBC the other day.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41726695

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    Chicago Fire last night we’re terrible, did they know it was a knockout game? Sad way to end a good season too.

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    Aren’t they supposed to win the World Cup?

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