NBA Thread

**AlphaBean** · March 5th, 2003, 9:03 AM

Originally posted by JeromeHolyfield112
You must not no the defintion of suck.

If Walker sucks he wouldnt be an all star.

Especially in the East...

.

**spanish announce table** · March 5th, 2003, 1:46 PM

raptors knock off the wizards. nasty dunk by carter

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 5th, 2003, 7:38 PM

Golden State is .500!

**Wolv49** · March 5th, 2003, 9:53 PM

Originally posted by them69
Yes, the fan voting for the all-star team is really indicitive of performance.

You must be talking of the heartless one, Penny Hardaway clone. Whereas, with Antoine Walker, he got selected to the All-Star game this year via the coaches selections.

**Rajah** · March 5th, 2003, 11:54 PM

Okay, I'm watching the Kings/Timberwolves on TV right now...one of the few times a non-Raptor game is on TV...and christ, Kevin Garnett is unbelievable. I love him even more now.

**EL-ASSO-WIPO** · March 6th, 2003, 2:01 AM

Too bad twolves lost. KG is da fuckin man. He just needs more HELP from his teammates.. The Kings at home are really tough to beat too.

**AlphaBean** · March 6th, 2003, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by EL-ASSO-WIPO
Too bad twolves lost. KG is da fuckin man. He just needs more HELP from his teammates.. The Kings at home are really tough to beat too.

First off, Hudson was a DOLT at the end of regulation. 3 seconds left, he and KG alone... he tries an alleyoop? POEHFPOSHWFPSDOFH

Then in OT, they give him a three and it quiets the crowd, all right!

Two minutes later they take it back. You don't wait that fucking long! That's bullshit! Argh. That was complete tampering.

Anyway, thank fuck KG isn't hurt too bad... or maybe he is, I haven't checked yet

the Kings triple teamed him and the Kings have 5 shooters on the fucking floor but the Wolves can't have as much talent. Everyone triple teams KG and Webber, Divac, Bibby, Peja and Christie all gotta be singled. Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we had that fucking game won, DAMN YOU TROY HUDSON!!!!!!!!!!!

**EL-ASSO-WIPO** · March 6th, 2003, 9:50 PM

Is it me or has this season been full of alot of injuries?

**EL-ASSO-WIPO** · March 6th, 2003, 9:52 PM

Another question: Is 82 games to long of a season?

**Big** · March 6th, 2003, 10:24 PM

This season has had tons of injuries on and off. People've been injured for 5 days or 5 months or the whole season. But that's a risk you take when you play.
I think 82 games is just right. Not too much, not too short. Enough to determine who is top, and enough to give teams a chance to rebound back in the playoffs race.

**QuietStorm** · March 7th, 2003, 11:36 PM

Any ideas on what the unknown substance was at the Celtics game? They said it smelled like ammonia but no one seemed to have any idea on what it was. Kinda scary. People were also reportedly seen quickly exiting after it was first smelled. Hopefully it is as harmless as it seems since they finished up the rest of the game. And also I would hope that they get the specifics of all of this.

**EL-ASSO-WIPO** · March 8th, 2003, 3:09 AM

It probably was like cyanide or something harmless.

**EL-ASSO-WIPO** · March 8th, 2003, 3:12 AM

Hey Alpha, what happend to your KG tonite against the Lake show? He was severely outplayed by Kobe. Alot of bad calls in that game though. And TROY hudson, Ok great shot ending the 3rd, but when you airball twice, Maybe you should stop shooting.

P.s SHAQ is unstoppable when he plays hard.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 8th, 2003, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by EL-ASSO-WIPO

P.s SHAQ is unstoppable when he plays hard.

On O yes. Ben Wallace is twice the defender and a better athlete though.

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 8th, 2003, 11:02 PM

Shaq would pound Wallace, if Lakers played Pistons

**The_shad** · March 8th, 2003, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by JeromeHolyfield112
Shaq would pound Wallace, if Lakers played Pistons

I'll agree with you there. Wallace is great, but there are about 2 centers I really feel can try to contain him and Ming needs a few more games against him to see if he can make it 2 instead of 1.

And the other guy was suspended and may never be the same.

**The_shad** · March 9th, 2003, 1:27 AM

WooHoo! The Nugs 14 game losing streak just became a 1 game winning streak.

**THE WHOLE Fn SHOW** · March 9th, 2003, 2:09 AM

Woohoo Vince is back! dammit, I wish we were healthy all year round.

**Mike** · March 9th, 2003, 1:14 PM

Ben Wallace also isn't even a true center. Believe it or not, he's only 6'9. He was the shortest player to ever lead the NBA in rebounds and blocks in the same season (and I believe only the 3rd ever). Unless he gets injured, he's well on pace to become the first player to ever do it two years in a row.

Ben gives up 4 inches and almost 100 pounds to Shaq. And last time they played he kept him in check (you can't shut him down) without the help of ANY double teams. He even had a block or two. In the regular season Shaq is a lazy slug and it takes something to get him motivated. Ben Wallace makes him really work for every basket he gets, so as the game wheres on, Shaq becomes content with kicking the ball back out to Kobe and settling for the occasional slop put back.

**AlphaBean** · March 9th, 2003, 1:18 PM

Originally posted by EL-ASSO-WIPO
Hey Alpha, what happend to your KG tonite against the Lake show? He was severely outplayed by Kobe. Alot of bad calls in that game though. And TROY hudson, Ok great shot ending the 3rd, but when you airball twice, Maybe you should stop shooting.

P.s SHAQ is unstoppable when he plays hard.

If it was KG vs Kobe, KG'd win, but it was KG (etc) vs Kobe AND SHAQ (etc).

KG was outplayed by Shaq. Kobe can't be shut down when Shaq scores 40 points down low. It's impossible to stop them both.

That's why Kobe isn't MVP. He should be behind Shaq in the voting.

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 9th, 2003, 2:59 PM

Jamal Mashburn is my new pick for MVP.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 9th, 2003, 5:54 PM

Originally posted by JeromeHolyfield112
Shaq would pound Wallace, if Lakers played Pistons

Didn't you watch the other night? The Lakers still came out on top because of Kobe. Wallace was able to contain Shaq. You could tell Shaq was a little bit more careful against Wallace - he went up weak a few times. Wallace actually had two blocks on Shaq. There's no doubt that Shaq will always score more points for his team than Wallace, but Detroit doesn't look to Wallace for O. Bottom line is this, Shaq is a point scorer and Wallace kept him contained. Unfortunately, the Lakers have more than one point scorer, so they still won.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 9th, 2003, 5:56 PM

Originally posted by Mike
Ben Wallace also isn't even a true center. Believe it or not, he's only 6'9.

Which is why he wasn't drafted. All the more reason that he's an awesome athlete to do what he's done at that height.

**Mike** · March 9th, 2003, 10:07 PM

Now lets talk about Chauncy Billups, how big of clutch player is he. I can't count the number of times he's made huge shots in the last minute of games this year. I think it's safe to say he's passed Rip Hamilton as the Pistons offensive star.

6 seconds left in the game, Pistons are down by 1. Everybody is expecting Chauncy to get the ball and drive for the 2. What does he do? He gets the ball off the inbound and WAITS about 2 feet behind the 3-point line until the clock is down to about 2 seconds. He then just shoots a long 3 right in Chris Mills face, never looks to drive, just shoots. Splash. Pistons win. How much guts does that take.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 10th, 2003, 12:07 AM

I know man, that was one of the most exciting moments I've watched this season. Damn, I almost was gonna buy tickets to that game too.

How about Wallace's block on Arenas' fingeroll late in the game? It was so funny how Arenas looked for the foul after that. Like they're gonna call a foul on the defensive player of the year on a clean swat. After Arenas threw that fit and got the tech, the ref called one on Chauncy for reaching. When they replayed it, it was clearly not a reach. It was justice when Billups hit that game winning three. Golden State is a lot tougher than their record though, that's for damn sure.

**AlphaBean** · March 10th, 2003, 12:55 AM

Billups is such a bitch.

He only left the Wolves because he thought Brandon would come back, and he wanted to be a starter...

How could you think Brandon would ever come back!?!?!? Geeze!!!

Anyway, yo yo yo, M V P! After being beaten by Shaq (not Kobe), KG forces himself to a triple double and 5 blocks vs the red-hot Suns!!!! Aw yeah

M V P M V P.

**Mike** · March 10th, 2003, 1:01 AM

Yeah, Arenas just mishandled that ball. Chauncy was on the receiving end of some terrible calls all night, total justice at the end. You can't fault Arenas too much though considering he was the only reason they were in the game in the first place.

You also can't forget about Jon Barry, who is really the player that sparked the late game rally. It's awesome to see him playing well again after getting benched on the road trip. He sparked the comeback with that big steal and then the fast break 3-pointer. He also had a monster block that turned into points, another steal, and an incredible 3-point play. The guy is my hero, a 33 year old balding white man getting it done at the shooting guard position.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 10th, 2003, 7:29 PM

Barry was big against Houston last week too. That guy's shot is deadly from...just about anywhere on the court. I swear he probably shoots 50% from half court.

Arenas is a good player, that was a good matchup with him and Billups. Such a winer though.

**Big** · March 10th, 2003, 10:30 PM

Knicks

**AlphaBean** · March 11th, 2003, 12:21 AM

ESPN put Kobe and Duncan above KG for MVP... what the hell? Read this shit: http://espn.go.com/page2/s/neel/030310.html

The plus/minus alone, and the fact that he destroyed the Mavs in Dallas...

But how about Rasho Nesterovic with 9 blocks?

worthy? I think so.

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 11th, 2003, 7:37 PM

I still think Mashburn should be M.V.P

With Baron Davis gone, Mashburn did awesome leading the Hornets, and made alot of clutch shots.

I'm a Portland fan, but got a soft spot for The Hornets.

**EL-ASSO-WIPO** · March 11th, 2003, 8:15 PM

I think Bean is going to kill himself if KG doesnt get MVP.

On a side note, I might kill myself if the wizards dont make the playoffs. How can a team play with no heart?

**them69** · March 11th, 2003, 9:43 PM

It's kind of disheartening to see Jordan working as hard as he possibly can at 40, and his team mates just not coming through. Without Jordan, they would be fighting with the Cavs for worst record in the NBA.

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 11th, 2003, 11:03 PM

I agree, Jordan is working his ass off.

But part of their problem is not giving Stackhouse the ball enough, Jordan is old, he shouldnt be working hard as he is, Stackhouse should be the one working hard, not Jordan. Stackhouse even came out in the open and said he aint getting the ball enough.

Last year, he lead Detroit to a good run. He's a good player with good leadership skills.

Give Stackhouse the ball more!

**AlphaBean** · March 11th, 2003, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by EL-ASSO-WIPO
I think Bean is going to kill himself if KG doesnt get MVP.

On a side note, I might kill myself if the wizards dont make the playoffs. How can a team play with no heart?

Actually, this is as pissed as I will get. Why? Because I know that the media REALLY wants to give Kobe MVP. They don't look at the stats that matter. They don't look at the fact that KG is more efficient, has over twice the +/- point difference as Kobe, doesn't have Shaq, has a better record... none of this matters, because Kobe scores more points.

It makes me sigh. Someone isn't doing their job. The basketball experts aren't really experts.

**Big** · March 11th, 2003, 11:59 PM

Kobe shouldn't get it for carrying the team on his shoulders and LOSING. KG pretty much did it all by himself this season, with Sczerbiack not makin much of an impact, and brandon still not doing anything. Hudson did real good tho and gave all he had. KG tho deserves it because of his lack of supporting cast and still winning.

for KG!

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 12th, 2003, 12:01 AM

AlphaBean, I dont want Kevin Garnett to win MVP, because I dont wanna see those media fucks jumping on his banwagon, acting like they always liked Kevin Garnett.

Kevin Garnett, needs the be the player he is right now, and let the media ride the dicks of other players like Kobe, because it just makes Garnett better.

I know Kevin Garnett wouldnt want the medias respect.

**AlphaBean** · March 12th, 2003, 12:21 AM

You know what? Whether or not it makes him a better or worse player, he deserves it.

Saying he doesn't deserve to win anything because he works harder because of it is like justifying a ringmaster who abuses his animals in order to perform tricks.

Yes, they perform amazing tricks... but in the end, they're getting abused and why? To jump through hoops. I think KG is an amazing player and an amazing guy. I don't like seeing him playing angry. I like the ends... but I don't think they justify the means.

**Stephizhot** · March 12th, 2003, 12:30 AM

The last few months lakers have been red hot beating all the top teams in the nba, then they go loose to the CHICAGO BULLS

Being a bulls fan this is the greatest day of the season for me

, Go bulls..... even though they suck

**EL-ASSO-WIPO** · March 12th, 2003, 3:13 AM

Haha, ya the Lakers losing to the bulls is comedy. The bulls have beaten the Lakers 3 out of the last 4 times they have played. Unfortunately, the Bulls have lost to everyone else including some wnba teams.

**spanish announce table** · March 12th, 2003, 10:18 AM

the bulls beat the lakers
the nuggets beat the raptors

what the hell is going on?! you know something's wrong when youre playing chris jefferies in the first quarter and mamadou n'diaye is spotted for the first time in over 50 games.

**Pablo Diablo** · March 12th, 2003, 11:18 AM

that was a solid game by the Raps. I saw signs of life. No wait that was just the mold growing on our dead bodies.

**Big** · March 12th, 2003, 3:00 PM

Jamaal Crawford!

WOO!

**THE WHOLE Fn SHOW** · March 12th, 2003, 4:08 PM

Originally posted by darocksez
that was a solid game by the Raps. I saw signs of life. No wait that was just the mold growing on our dead bodies.

Its best we keep losing anyway. We need to grab one of the top 3 picks overall. 1)Lebron, 2)Darko, 3)Carmelo Anthony. All awesome players who can lift this franchise up. I know next year, we will go far, just have to stay healthy

**Pablo Diablo** · March 12th, 2003, 4:09 PM

healthy. Our whole team is like grant hill.

**THE WHOLE Fn SHOW** · March 12th, 2003, 4:11 PM

Originally posted by spanish announce table
the bulls beat the lakers
the nuggets beat the raptors

what the hell is going on?! you know something's wrong when youre playing chris jefferies in the first quarter and mamadou n'diaye is spotted for the first time in over 50 games.

They should have been playing Jefferies a long time ago. He was playing well before he got injured. They didnt play Maceo Baston, which they should have. Wilkens is a good coach and I respect him, but this team needs a coaching change.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 12th, 2003, 7:13 PM

Originally posted by spanish announce table
the bulls beat the lakers

Thus making the Lakers at Detroit tonight all the more of a game.

**AlphaBean** · March 12th, 2003, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by TIMMY!!!!!
Thus making the Lakers at Detroit tonight all the more of a game.

At least the Lakers lost again...

Garnett had his worst game ever at the worst possible time. Bleh.

At least he got another double double

And check out Memphis turning it up! Beating the living shit out of the Bulls...

*sigh*

Wolves... they gotta come home

**Rajah** · March 12th, 2003, 11:32 PM

Isn't it amazing, when Garnett almost gets a triple double (17-13-7) and it's considered a "bad game"? He's still the man, Bean and he WILL win the MVP. Screw Kobe, screw T-Mac, screw Duncan and whoever else is in the running.

**QuietStorm** · March 12th, 2003, 11:39 PM

You didn't have to say screw T-Mac

.

And what about Ben Wallace being mentioned? Shouldn't defense count for something?

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 12th, 2003, 11:45 PM

Why isnt Jamal Mashburn being mention beside by me?

Baron Davis made his return last night! And scored 20 points!

Hornets Vs. Trail Blazers in the finals! I would be happy as hell. With my trailblazers winning in game 7, and Scottie Pippen winning playoff MVP

**Mike** · March 13th, 2003, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by UMDeepTerp
You didn't have to say screw T-Mac .

And what about Ben Wallace being mentioned? Shouldn't defense count for something?

Sports Illustrated named him the half-season MVP. I doubt he could win it for real without at least 15-20 points a game though.

Ben had a huge block on Shaq tonight, he played an awesome game.

And I know Alphabean will hate to hear this, but if Chauncy Billups keeps playing like he is right now he will be an All-Star next year. He's taken the offense as his own in the last 5 games (averaging around 30 points) and hasn't met a point guard yet that can stop him.

Tonight against the Lakers he had 33 points, 6 assists, and 0 turnovers. What's even more impressive than that? After half time they made a switch and he came out guarding Kobe. He held MVP wannabe Kobe Bryant to 4 points in the 2nd half.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 13th, 2003, 3:25 AM

Originally posted by JeromeHolyfield112
Shaq would pound Wallace, if Lakers played Pistons

Yeah, that's pretty much how it went down tonight

**EL-ASSO-WIPO** · March 13th, 2003, 4:52 AM

Originally posted by JeromeHolyfield112
Why isnt Jamal Mashburn being mention beside by me?

Baron Davis made his return last night! And scored 20 points!

Hornets Vs. Trail Blazers in the finals! I would be happy as hell. With my trailblazers winning in game 7, and Scottie Pippen winning playoff MVP

The trailblazers will be eliminated in the 1st round.

The Hornets are on a hot streak right now, but come on, their not going to the finals.

The finals Will be the Kings Vs Nets

Kings in 6. Nuff said.

P.S. LMAO at Scottie Pippen being MVP of the finals

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 13th, 2003, 8:00 PM

El-Ass-Wipo that isnt my prediction, thats what I hope.

The finals will be New Jersey Vs. Dallas.

**Mike** · March 13th, 2003, 10:01 PM

No way in hell New Jersey makes the finals, if they do the East is a lot weaker than we thought. Philadelphia and Detroit are better teams for sure, and Indiana and New Orleans could definately give them trouble. If I had to make a prediction, I say they'll loose in the second round to the Sixers. And that's coming from a 3 seed because Philadelphia will win the Atlantic division.

**EL-ASSO-WIPO** · March 13th, 2003, 10:12 PM

Prediction Time: Do the wizards Make the playoffs??

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 13th, 2003, 10:13 PM

Detroit is definitely the top team in the East. I seriously see LA getting to the finals though. Call me crazy. Some of the top West teams, even though they have stronger records than LA, they just don't have the same experience. The best records don't always win championships.

**Stephizhot** · March 13th, 2003, 10:38 PM

Well, if lakers keep blowing games like they have recently they might not even make the playoffs, I think the 9th in the conference is only 2 or 3 games behind the lakers.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 13th, 2003, 10:39 PM

You know they'll turn it around.

**Stephizhot** · March 13th, 2003, 10:44 PM

maybe, maybe not, lakers have been totally unpredictable this season.

**Big** · March 13th, 2003, 11:05 PM

Jersey just bitched Boston. Jersey still has it.

**Big** · March 13th, 2003, 11:08 PM

With only 6 people scoring, Jersey won. That's awesome and sad. 6 people?! Sheesh. At least they all made double digits.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 13th, 2003, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by IbiggmikeI
Jersey just bitched Boston.

What's that saying?

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 14th, 2003, 12:13 AM

It's saying they can beat a great team.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 14th, 2003, 2:55 AM

By beating a mediocre team in the East?

**Mike** · March 14th, 2003, 11:22 AM

Boston will loose in the first round, they suck. Detroit beat them by 56 last time they played.

Looking at their schedule- Washington is going to have to do something really special to make the playoffs, Jordan can't do it himself, and Stackhouse has a history of dissapearing when his team needs him most.

They have 18 games left and they play:

Detroit twice
Phoenix
Golden State
Portland
Lakers
Kings
Boston twice
Philadelphia

That's 9 of 18 against good playoff teams, an away game against a very much improved Golden State, and 12 of the games on the road (including 6 straight in the west). I don't like their chances one bit.

**them69** · March 14th, 2003, 4:48 PM

If anyone can bring his team to do it, Jordan can.

Jersey is looking good again, yeah. They showed they were the real deal last year and the first half of this year. They were just in a slump, same as other teams are in slumps. My boy Lucious Harris was throwing everything but his shoes through the basket last night. When he is on a scoring streak, the Nets don't lose. He gives them so much more energy when he's on.

**AlphaBean** · March 14th, 2003, 7:41 PM

Originally posted by Rajah
Isn't it amazing, when Garnett almost gets a triple double (17-13-7) and it's considered a "bad game"? He's still the man, Bean and he WILL win the MVP. Screw Kobe, screw T-Mac, screw Duncan and whoever else is in the running.

Well, he was what, 6 of 19 from the field or something? Not very good, especially when you're the only guy who can score on your team...

I noticed that when KG can score, everyone else can, but when they triple team KG and he is shut down, nobody else is able to step up.

PS: Yeah I know Chauncy will make the AS game. He's in the East, and on the best team in the East. It's a probability.

And to think, he was the Wolves' backup.

And to think, Bobby Jackson used to be our backup. And now we can't find a PG

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 14th, 2003, 9:52 PM

Originally posted by Mike

They have 18 games left and they play:

Detroit twice
Phoenix
Golden State
Portland
Lakers
Kings
Boston twice
Philadelphia

That's 9 of 18 against good playoff teams, an away game against a very much improved Golden State, and 12 of the games on the road (including 6 straight in the west). I don't like their chances one bit.

I'd be surprised if they took half of those games.

**Pablo Diablo** · March 15th, 2003, 12:17 AM

Has anyone told the Raptors that the games begun?

Hell has anyone told them when any of the last three games began?

It's pathetic.

**THE WHOLE Fn SHOW** · March 15th, 2003, 2:37 AM

It is.

Even though I just want them to lose now to get a high draft pick, its still unacceptable being blown out for the past three games. They need to at least compete and play defence.

**AlphaBean** · March 15th, 2003, 3:29 AM

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it's my birthday. That means I'm

**Big** · March 15th, 2003, 5:39 PM

Sczerbiak is good when he's 100%.

**THE WHOLE Fn SHOW** · March 15th, 2003, 7:38 PM

2003 NBA Mock Draft

By InsideHoops.com

Updated March 5, 2003

1) Cleveland - LeBron James
2) Denver - Darko Milicic
3) Memphis (may go to Detroit)- Carmelo Anthony
4) Toronto - Chris Bosh
5) Miami - T.J. Ford
6) LA Clippers - Sofoklis Schortsianides
7) Chicago - Dwyane Wade
8) Atlanta (may go to Milwaukee)- Zarko Cabarkapa
9) Seattle - Emeka Okafor
10) New York - Chris Kaman
11) Golden State - Anderson Varejão
12) Orlando - Jarvis Hayes
13) Washington - Reece Gaines
14) New Orleans - Mike Sweetney http://InsideHoops.com
15) LA Lakers - David West
16) Houston (may go to Memphis) - Darius Rice
17) Milwaukee - Brian Cook
18) Philadelphia (may go to Boston) - Kendrick Perkins
19) Phoenix - Boris Diaw
20) Boston - Luke Ridnour
21) Utah - Kirk Hindrich
22) Minnesota - Carlos Delfino
23) Portland - Mickaël Pietrus
24) New Jersey - Ben Gordon
25) Sacramento (may go to Memphis) - Mario Austin
26) Indiana (may go to Atlanta) - Nick Collison
27) Detroit (may go to Sacramento) - Rickey Paulding
28) San Antonio - Josh Howard
29) Dallas - Marquis Moore

The draft looks promising. 2 Big time Franchise players going 1 & 2, Bosh and Anthony are also amazing players. Go Raptors

**AlphaBean** · March 17th, 2003, 2:19 AM

Originally posted by IbiggmikeI
Sczerbiak is good when he's 100%.

Which is never. Like, since he's come back... he hasn't found his groove. If he did, yeah, he'd rule.

Did anyone else notice how many teams scored +120 today?

Five.

Four more got over 110.

Crazy.

Cavs and Grizzlies?

**Big** · March 17th, 2003, 10:31 AM

Knicks win again

Those playoff hopes come closer then get squashed everytime theres a stupid loss

**Matthew** · March 17th, 2003, 1:16 PM

Haha Ricky Davis is a stupid bastard.

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 18th, 2003, 6:26 PM

That was a sick block Wally did last week tho.

One of the best blocks I ever seen.

**Jason_HBK** · March 18th, 2003, 9:28 PM

Originally posted by JeromeHolyfield112
That was a sick block Wally did last week tho.

One of the best blocks I ever seen.

I agree. That could have been a very bad landing.

**Mike** · March 19th, 2003, 12:04 AM

Jordan drives on Washington's final possesion to try to take the lead..... Ben Wallace blocks the shit out of him. Pistons win in OT.

20 rebounds and 7 blocks on the night for Big Ben. The guy is amazing.

**AlphaBean** · March 19th, 2003, 1:01 AM

Originally posted by Matthew
Haha Ricky Davis is a stupid bastard.

Not stupid.

He told the Cavs not to sign him or else. They signed him.

**Matthew** · March 19th, 2003, 5:51 PM

He still got fined for it.

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 19th, 2003, 8:17 PM

Wow, he got fined, I am sure there is alot more from where that came from.

Ben Wallace is a monster! 20 rebounds and 7 blocks? He's a beast!

**Big** · March 19th, 2003, 8:49 PM

Well thats his nickname... How about Allan Houston lately

Finally producing something. Spurs were beat, WITH Duncan

Great comeback...Go Knicks!

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 19th, 2003, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by Mike
Jordan drives on Washington's final possesion to try to take the lead..... Ben Wallace blocks the shit out of him. Pistons win in OT.

20 rebounds and 7 blocks on the night for Big Ben. The guy is amazing.

I never thought watching great defense could be so exciting before Wallace. Detroit is the best defensive team in the league.

**bulldogfan** · March 20th, 2003, 7:39 AM

anyone know what happened to Bobby Hurley last i heard he got traded to toronto or sumthin, that was bout 4 years ago

**AlphaBean** · March 20th, 2003, 4:53 PM

Originally posted by TIMMY!!!!!

I never thought watching great defense could be so exciting before Wallace. Detroit is the best defensive team in the league.

Better than Miami?

**Mike** · March 20th, 2003, 11:23 PM

They allow less points per game.

Tonight against the Sixers?
Ben Wallace has 22 rebounds and 9 blocks, and he didn't even play in the 4th quarter.

Chauncy Billups scores 29 in 30 minutes. 9-13 from the field, 6-8 from 3 point land.

Remember when Chauncy held Kobe to 4 points in the second half when he guarded him last week? Well Chauncy and Rip held Iverson to 5 points on the NIGHT.

The NBA of course can't have one of it's star players stinking it up on national TV so TNN just turns the game off with 3 minutes left in the 3rd. I'm so pissed at those fucking bastards. I guess Barkley didn't want to watch the Pistons play anymore. Honest to God, they just stopped airing the game and had another half time show instead. Then they showed a little of the Dallas-San Antonio game and didn't come back to the Pistons until they're was like 2 minutes left in the game. EVEN IN THE LOCAL MARKETS! TNN is terrible.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 21st, 2003, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by AlphaBean
Better than Miami?

The average number of points scored against Detroit is something like 86, which leads the league.

**TIMMY!!!!!** · March 21st, 2003, 12:36 AM

More and more it's looking like Detroit is the team to beat in the East. The sixers came in with some momentum and got shut down with authority. I wish Detroit hadn't given up that game against Boston a couple nights ago.

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 22nd, 2003, 2:16 PM

Detroit got shutdown by New York last night.

**Big** · March 22nd, 2003, 2:26 PM

Knicks killed them in the 3rd and fought hard in the 4th.

GO KNICKS!

This has been bothering me much so tho, Knicks can beat San Antonio, put up a tough fight against LA and Dallas, beat Detroit, but lose to Chicago, Cleveland, and Memphis.

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 22nd, 2003, 2:32 PM

It's called not taking their opposition seriously.

They will take the top teams seriously, but not the lower teams.

**EL-ASSO-WIPO** · March 22nd, 2003, 4:47 PM

Originally posted by IbiggmikeI
Knicks killed them in the 3rd and fought hard in the 4th.

GO KNICKS!

This has been bothering me much so tho, Knicks can beat San Antonio, put up a tough fight against LA and Dallas, beat Detroit, but lose to Chicago, Cleveland, and Memphis.

The wizards are the same. They can beat Indiana, boston and detroit, but they lose to the heat and memphis. They can play with the mavs and anybody, yet they can lose to anyone also. I hate the fuckin wizards. Inconsistent motherfuckers.

**Mike** · March 22nd, 2003, 6:23 PM

Originally posted by IbiggmikeI
This has been bothering me much so tho, Knicks can beat San Antonio, put up a tough fight against LA and Dallas, beat Detroit, but lose to Chicago, Cleveland, and Memphis.

It's weird how the NBA works. Only two teams in the east have beaten the Pistons more than 1 time this year. Those teams? New York and Milwauke.

I didn't see much of the game last night, what I did see was a very sloppy game by both teams. 34 turnovers between the two. Once a game turns into a circus like that anything can happen.

**Big** · March 23rd, 2003, 10:46 AM

Now the knicks lose by 2 points to the bulls. WTF IS GOING ON?!?!!

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 23rd, 2003, 1:14 PM

Jerry Sloan is coach of the year.

**Big** · March 23rd, 2003, 1:42 PM

No...its Don Chaney.

**JeromeHolyfield112** · March 23rd, 2003, 1:47 PM

Please, his team isnt even in the playoffs. Your way to biased for New York.

IMO, without Jerry Sloan, Utah wouldn't be in the playoffs.

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