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    You just hate how your city couldn't keep an NBA team. FOH.

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    raptors have won the series

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    Nah, last night Raps had the crowd and could barely pull it off with Giannis struggling. Not to say we can't win the series and getting that win was very important, but blowing Game 1 is really a killer because they need that road victory.

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    sorry, but my expert analysis says otherwise. book it

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    Ok. Booking my flights to Oakland now. If you're wrong Matthew...

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    that's a weird place to watch a portland home game

    just kidding. damien lillard will pull out the game today, that's it.

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    How can the Warriors lose if KD is healthy?

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    The Blazers should have used Myers Leonard earlier on in the series. I really hate seeing Lillard fail but they were really just outclassed in crunch time every single game. Obviously losing Nurkic was a massive blow. Hopefully they make another run at it with most of this core intact next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    How can the Warriors lose if KD is healthy?
    they can't. I don't think they beat the Bucks without him though if the Bucks make it that far. I don't think the Raptors have the fire power either way against the Warriors.

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    I wouldn't go so far as to say they couldn't beat the Bucks without him. But that would be the only chance.

    And yes I have to agree that the Raps just don't have the depth to beat them either way.

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    They can easily lose if they're careless and feel they can coast through a game and try to steal it late but come up short. That's one game, though. The issue is attempting to see that happen four times in seven games.

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    The Warriors are more fun without Durant. They will win with or without him, in 5 games or less. The Eastern Finals are irrelevant. We are witnessing all time greatness and it is delightful. I hope Steph gets MVP this time.

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    It almost looks like Milwaukee wants out of Toronto

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    Raps had this sort of lead Game 1. Far from over.

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    Canadans can basketball. Milwaukee doing its best to piss this series away.

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    What a beautiful complete game by the Raptors. Lowry was a beast and I love that Powell is sticking it the Bucks for drafting him and then trading him to TO. Chip on his shoulder! Kawhi was just legendary as usual.

    Raptors in 7 baby.

    (only to get smoked by GS)

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    Golden State gets to rest while Toronto and Milwaukee battle in the East Finals. By the time the Raptors or Bucks make it to the Finals, they are going to be broken from all this back-and-forth action. I honestly think either of the teams, when fully healthy and rested, could beat Golden State in a 7 game series. They have the MVP, they have the defense and they, especially Milwaukee, have the depth. As long as they're rested, this could be one of the better finals of the past 4-5 years.

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    drake is such a tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    drake is such a tool.
    Absolutely. He’s an obnoxious twatwaffle

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    Quote Originally Posted by hithit View Post
    Absolutely. He’s an obnoxious twatwaffle
    i was slightly embarrassed when our old dude superfan oddly got up in lowry's face last series. don't fucking step to the players like that. i don't know how or why drake gets away with some of the shit he's done. well, i mean, i know why, but still. maybe i'm mistaken, but i can't think of any other single fan, famous or not, that does this kind of nonsense. he doesn't fucking belong in huddles or rubbing on the coach. it's beyond cringey.

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    Imagine being actually upset about Drake.

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    He's the global brand ambassador for the Raptors. Can go to the dressing room after games like it's nothing. OVO sponsors their practice facility. It's not out of nowhere.

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    Yep there’s a lot of Drake hate coming from teams who just lost to the Raptors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Imagine being actually upset about Drake.
    I’m upset with him being on the court touching the coach. That shouldn’t be allowed, at all. If that was any of us, we’d be banned for life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hithit View Post
    I’m upset with him being on the court touching the coach. That shouldn’t be allowed, at all. If that was any of us, we’d be banned for life.
    See

    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    He's the global brand ambassador for the Raptors. Can go to the dressing room after games like it's nothing. OVO sponsors their practice facility. It's not out of nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hithit View Post
    I’m upset with him being on the court touching the coach. That shouldn’t be allowed, at all. If that was any of us, we’d be banned for life.
    He touched the Raptors coach, who had no problem with it, right? Not the Bucks coach. This is like a tamer version of when Matthew McConaughey gets to be on the court and act like a coach for Texas basketball or football. If the team wants him there and has a working relationship with him to the point where he has his own locker and the practice facility is named for him, what's really the problem?

    And you guys may say it's cringey when McConaughey does it too, or that it's different in college, but seriously who cares. It's sports. It's fun when celebrities are into it. It was fun when Spike Lee and Reggie were jawing at each other and I get that Giannis is a modern NBA beta boy instead of a gritty 90s player like Reggie who would have just stuck a 3 pointer and shut Drake up, but the fact is that this is part of what makes the NBA so entertaining. Love Drake or hate him, that's the fun of it, but to be upset by it and think he shouldn't be allowed to do what he's doing is where you're the one who sounds like a tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    See
    I saw that, still doesn’t mean he should be doing what I mentioned. Global ambassador doesn’t mean he should be touching the coach.

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    Being worried so much about Drake to the point of the coach going ahead and commenting on the issue tells me that the lights are getting a little too bright for the Bucks.

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    I just hope for a good game from the Raps so this gets put in the background again.

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    Team owners arent allowed to cross certain lines during games. Pretty sure Drake can follow the same rules. This is nothing new. Its the same antics Spike Lee and Jack Nicholson and plenty of other celebs have done over the years. I'd do the same thing if I was Drake. Still, he needs to stay in his lane. Being a brand ambassador isnt being on the team.

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    This isnt a team with a bunch of championships. If I were the Raptors I would ask Drake to STFU and let the team make a title run without a cartoony distraction. They can brag and act immature next year if they win a title.

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    We must've ran out of things to discuss if we're really directing this much conversation to Drake harmlessly interacting with a team that seems to enjoy it. I see this as another wonderful image builder for the NBA and the youth that has become fans of the game. People, especially younger, love seeing their favorite celebrity at the games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Being worried so much about Drake to the point of the coach going ahead and commenting on the issue tells me that the lights are getting a little too bright for the Bucks.
    Nah. But you go ahead and keep trying to be a shrink and telling us how the Bucks are feeling Dr. Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    big mad ^

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    Why would I be mad? My team ain’t sitting on the couch right now.....

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    On second thought let’s not look at the game and focus on Drake some more.

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    Been a good game so far Pabs

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    Quote Originally Posted by hithit View Post
    Nah. But you go ahead and keep trying to be a shrink and telling us how the Bucks are feeling Dr. Phil
    Point is, they don't have a lot of experience (some but still lacking across the board) and taking the time to give this the time of day rather than blowing it off completely comes across negatively to me.

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    Come on Green. Even Bledsoe has double digit points this game.

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    scary hours

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    That was a bad time to lay an egg with securing rebounds for the Bucks. That possession where Leonard secured the offensive rebound off his own three was a backbreaker. Their offense got stuck in the mud wasn't in transition. Not sure how much credit needs to be given to Toronto's D but a fair amount should be given to them for that.

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    If the Raps can keep the Bucks transition opportunities that's key. It's not even like we don't get people back. They're just so good at it with Giannis' length.

    This has now officially become the Raps best ever season (previously lost in 6 to the Cavs).

    Feeling confident coming back to Toronto. But outside of Game 2 and 4 every game has been close so things can still end up either way.

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    This game was over as soon as Aaron Rodgers couldn’t finish his beer on the Jumbotron. Bad mojo like you read about

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    I want to partyvwith that lineman. He can knock them back faster than that beer chugger from The Man Show.

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    Could not be more impressed by Drake tonight. Outstanding composure and a huge win for not only toronto but all teenage Instagram as well.

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    Due to making two All-NBA teams in a row, Giannis is eligible for a 5-year, $247M extension from the Bucks next summer. Largest contract in NBA history. That would be a $49.4 million per year average, and in the last year he would be making over $56 million. Major.

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    And if he stays healthy, he's more than worth it and then some.

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    The best part of the Aaron Rodger's video is the fact that the girl on his left is the daughter of Buck's Owner Wes Edens, and the fact she is trolling Drake with the Pusha T tee on. Classic.

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    And that Drake made her picture his Instagram profile picture last night.

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    Another reason the NBA is growing in popularity. This shit would never happen in the MLB or NFL. I love all the interactions and acceptance of people outside of the NBA who are culturally significant.

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    Good luck tonight Pabs. Hell of a turn around by your boys, but that ends tonight.

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    I’m not getting cocky at all. I’ll be in the crowd and we can be great (ignore the beginning of the second half when half the seats are empty) so I’m hoping that we can push the boys through the finish line. I also hope the Raps aren’t getting cocky. I’m expecting a big game from Giannis so hopefully we don’t also let one of the support go off on us. I wouldn’t be surprised with a Raps blowout or a Bucks blowout both teams have shown this series the ability to shrink and also to be lights out.

    Best of luck.

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    That quarter ended quite poorly.

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    Hell of a run to end the 3rd for your boys tho

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    Down 5 at the start of the 4th. Can the Raptors rally and earn their first ever Finals berth?

    I say they'll do it. Home crowd is bumpin.

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    Amazing what can be achieved without LeBron there to ruin your life

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    WE ARE GOING TO THE FUCKING SHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can't believe it. I'm so hyped right now.

    This team can do anything.

    Warriors in 5.

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    Thank you. You guys as well. What do you think are the changes you guys need to make. Or if Kawhi leaves (which to be realistic is still the smart betting choice) do you think there's enough to just run it back with a max'd Middleton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Thank you. You guys as well. What do you think are the changes you guys need to make. Or if Kawhi leaves (which to be realistic is still the smart betting choice) do you think there's enough to just run it back with a max'd Middleton.
    I don’t think we really need to make any changes. Keep this team intact and let them grow.

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    raptors have won the series
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    I don’t think we really need to make any changes. Keep this team intact and let them grow.
    They really need a more reliable playmaker or decision maker. Their problems got magnified in a big way against Toronto and they were masked against the inferior teams they played leading up to Toronto. With that, I get the theory of letting them stand pat and figure it out but it's not like the top tier teams around the league are going to stand pat. They're going to be trying to replace, replenish or improve.

    To me, it's clear Milwaukee is really dependent on their defense being strong to fuel their offense. If they're able to get stops, they thrive in transition. Teams lock in on Giannis and he can even crack that code in transition or they just find a way to plow through the first wave on the break. When they aren't able to get stops, their offense really isn't much. Yeah, Giannis can still break down shitty teams and kick out to the open shooter, but the goal isn't just to beat shitty teams. They ran into a team (specifically a player) they couldn't stop and that put them behind the 8-ball on offense.

    I don't know how anyone could trust Bledsoe but that's the task at hand now because he got his extension. They'll have an easier decision with Brogdon compared to Mdidleton because they'll have the option to match an offer on Brogdon, which I imagine they would do. They could easily say they're going to bring back those two and essentially make their core Giannis, those two, and Bledsoe. They'll still have to find ways to replicate what Lopez brought if he leaves and ideally fill a role they were hoping Mirotić would bring as a rental.

    The teams "ahead or even" with Milwaukee have their own issues to deal with but this feels like a really pivotal one for them because they made the big jump this year. Once you make the jump, you either stay there and become a fixture as a title threat or you slide down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    They really need a more reliable playmaker or decision maker. Their problems got magnified in a big way against Toronto and they were masked against the inferior teams they played leading up to Toronto. With that, I get the theory of letting them stand pat and figure it out but it's not like the top tier teams around the league are going to stand pat. They're going to be trying to replace, replenish or improve.

    To me, it's clear Milwaukee is really dependent on their defense being strong to fuel their offense. If they're able to get stops, they thrive in transition. Teams lock in on Giannis and he can even crack that code in transition or they just find a way to plow through the first wave on the break. When they aren't able to get stops, their offense really isn't much. Yeah, Giannis can still break down shitty teams and kick out to the open shooter, but the goal isn't just to beat shitty teams. They ran into a team (specifically a player) they couldn't stop and that put them behind the 8-ball on offense.

    I don't know how anyone could trust Bledsoe but that's the task at hand now because he got his extension. They'll have an easier decision with Brogdon compared to Mdidleton because they'll have the option to match an offer on Brogdon, which I imagine they would do. They could easily say they're going to bring back those two and essentially make their core Giannis, those two, and Bledsoe. They'll still have to find ways to replicate what Lopez brought if he leaves and ideally fill a role they were hoping Mirotić would bring as a rental.

    The teams "ahead or even" with Milwaukee have their own issues to deal with but this feels like a really pivotal one for them because they made the big jump this year. Once you make the jump, you either stay there and become a fixture as a title threat or you slide down.
    The only problem they had against Toronto was they stopped making shots and Kawhi went Superman on them. But please tell someone that has watched every Bucks game this year what they need.

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    I used to be interested in basketball as a kid in the early 00s and mainly lost touch with it since then but this season I've ended up watching the playoffs pretty avidly, making sure I catch every game. Still don't have a team yet. I don't plan on picking one arbitrarily but rather to continue watching and see who I end up siding with. Just thought I'd share as I've been following this thread for a while now without posting anything.
    Last edited by Ringo; May 29th, 2019 at 8:25 AM.

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    Goddamn shame about ratings being so down for this postseason, as it's been wildly entertaining every step of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Goddamn shame about ratings being so down for this postseason, as it's been wildly entertaining every step of the way.
    They were pretty good for Warriors/Rockets, right? Bucks/Raptors isn't nearly the draw as Lebron vs the Celtics last year. I know we had Leonard and Giannis head to head the markets aren't great

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    I would imagine the games for Toronto don't mean a lick for that viewing audience when it comes to ratings.

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    That is correct.

    The ratings are great up here. But US broadcasters don’t care about that since ad people don’t care about it.

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    Alright. Predictions for the series. Realistically Warriors in 5. Optimistically Raptors in 7.

    Wouldn’t be surprised with a Warriors sweep though.

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    I'm surprised to see tonight's game as a pick 'em. I just put a little dough on a custom spread: Warriors -4 (+160). Vegas is surely smarter than me so this might be dumb but I like the Warriors to take care of business.

    I'm rooting for the Warriors and predict a sweep but certainly wouldn't mind having it go 6 or 7 (my bet notwithstanding).

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    Warriors in 6. Curry gets his MVP

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    I can't predict with any sense of confidence of what is going to happen tonight. There's way too many variables in play and a lot of feeling out that needs to happen. One thing I'm sure about, I'll be extremely surprised if this series isn't even heading to Oracle.

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    My mother now knows who Drake is and has informed me she cannot wait until tonight because "that Kawhi is amazing." So that's how big this is up here.

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    Boogie Cousins is active tonight. I wonder how much of a factor he is. Can't hurt with the Raptors playing their two big men a lot of minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Boogie Cousins is active tonight. I wonder how much of a factor he is. Can't hurt with the Raptors playing their two big men a lot of minutes.
    Thats another reason I’m very unsure of everything. If he gets any modicum of steady minutes creates multiple ripple effects that could work against them. They’ve clearly figured out how to get their offense going and he’s going to disturb that in some ways. He’s not going to be in great basketball shape for the magnitude of the moment...or he shouldn’t be. I’m not sure the counter argument of Toronto’s bigs is that much of a net positive with Cousins because Toronto isn’t that great of a rebounding team in general and Gasol shoots more 3s than 2s so that’s going to take Cousins away from the basket or take Golden State’s defense and make it more unstable.

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    Toronto won some games just based on offensive rebounding alone. They have potential to be a good rebounding team

    I disagree about Golden State's defense/offense being unstable with him there. Even if he plays in a couple 3-5 minute bursts, it changes the look of their offense and their defense and it makes the Raptors adjust accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Toronto won some games just based on offensive rebounding alone. They have potential to be a good rebounding team

    I disagree about Golden State's defense/offense being unstable with him there. Even if he plays in a couple 3-5 minute bursts, it changes the look of their offense and their defense and it makes the Raptors adjust accordingly.
    They do but I think I even said those were ill-timed mistakes by Milwaukee, who I believe ranked first overall in the playoffs in that department. I’m just looking at the wide lens or bigger sample of the playoffs when assessing Toronto. Yeah, it’s possible they could and they did in those instances but I’m not counting on it.

    I just don't have a lot of trust in a guy who has been out for a long period of time to go right in for the most stressful games of the season and be committed to his defensive assignments when Gasol is very prone to stand outside.

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    If Boogie plays 15-20 minutes it will unquestionably shake things up. I wouldnt allow a hobbled Cousins anywhere near Mark Gasol or he will leave on a stretcher. Gasol is dirty AF.

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    Pulling for the raptors

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    Me too. Time for a new champ.

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    lol on my broadcast there was a commercial for some children's movie with DMX's "where the hood at" as the background theme, probably the most aggressively homophobic rap song ever.

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    Raps have been very lucky with the whistle so far. We didn't get a good view of the Curry block (looked like a charge to me) and the charge Lowry took also was very minimal contact. But I'll take everything we can against the Warriors. They've been sloppy so far. But Portland also led for the majority of the games in the series and still got swept so not getting excited.

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    Wow, the Warriors looked more frustrated than they did at the end of the 2016 Finals. Iguodala is probably hurt. Solid win for the Raptors.

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    I love Steph's reaction to it. Dude laughs it off like it's friendly trash talk. Durant would've punched him in the face.

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    Curry laughing makes the gif because otherwise Drake seems a little too into it and going beyond the normal ribbing he does.

    Boys. The Raps won a fucking NBA FINALS GAME AGAINST THE WARRIORS!!!!! Also I didn't realize some of those players the Warriors were giving minutes to were getting those types of minutes in the finals. If KD is playing there's so much less shit they'll have to play.

    If Iggy is out for the next game and KD is still not back, very good chance of going 2-0 up.

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    Also I will say the Raps definitely got the ref advantage this game (despite what the final FT attempts might be). Curry and Klay can hit some of the stupidest shots in the world and not once do you think, oh that's just luck. What stupid good talent they have.

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    I watched Canadian Bacon last night to get me pumped up for this game.

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    That was fun, and made me think there's a decent chance this goes 7 games.

    I'd love an end to the Warrior Dynasty, but both teams have shown a remarkable ability to make adjustments from game to game.

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    Toronto's defense is this game was top-notch. Wow.

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    This is why I didn't post anything despite the lead at half.

    Third quarter warriors is a real thing.

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    And now need to win a game in Oakland. Well...at least we didn't get swept.

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