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    Outlaw, seeing as you like progressive music, do you like Tool at all?

    When is the new Opeth album out here? I've downloaded some of it and it is killer.

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    Not really, it's lacking in emotion and organicness, IMO it's too processed and not natural enough, the fact that the guitars sound more like Synthesized pieces of shit. Compared to nice emotional acoustic numbers put me off.

    So No Tool are fuck ups. They suck, they're stale and cold.

    Decent prog is Spock's Beard, Symph X, DT, Opeth, Queensryche and some Maiden.

    The Opeth album is out in the US. As for over here I'm not sure.

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    Tool are pretty fucking incredible live, though. The Melvins were awesome when I caught them as well at a Tool show.

    I'm considering going to Hatebreed's headline show as well as their gig with Soulfly, they should rip it up live.

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    Tool suck live, Slayer rock live.

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    Yep, Slayer were incredible and brutal last year, and Machine Head rocked majorly. Frankenbok were quite good as well.

    Are you a fan of The Mark Of Cain at all?

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    I like what I've heard but I've never bothered to buy anything of theirs.

    I should go and get 'This is This'.


    Unless you want to burn it for me and I'll send you one of my many cd's, a trade of sorts, you know where to contact me.

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    "This Is This...." is a really great album, I highly recommend you pick it up. "Ill At Ease" is also pretty kick arse but not quite up there.

    They are awesome live, though. They showed up Rollins Band when I saw them supporting Hank and co. (who were actually pretty good as well).

    I read somewhere that an Aussie act got the Soulfly/Hatebreed support slot, can't remember the name but I had heard of them before. Should be a quality gig.

    BTW, have you finished your exams yet?

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    Ringmaster, liked you review of Faith No More's "The Real Thing", you at least did a track-by-track breakdown unlike myself. I've always dug "Underwater Love" as well, it's a little hard to explain but it is a song that gets stuck in your head for days, the melodies are so catchy it should be illegal.

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    I finish on Tuesday, plus I probably won't get 'This is This' since my To get list currently is pretty long of bands I desperately want like Symphony X (Divine Wings Of Tragedy, Odessy) and Nevermore (Politics of Ectasy, Dreaming Neon Black.

    So it's not high on my list.

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    Eh, I reckon it should be pretty high on your list, but nevertheless, they do kick some serious arse. Go see them live one day as well when you get the chance, though.

    What other Aussie metal acts are you into- Segression, Blood Duster, Frankenbok, Psi.Kore (though they are no more), etc?

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    The 'bok fucking rok
    In regards to heavy australian music I endorse Cog and The Butterfly Effect.

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    Cog are touring around the place ATM, and are playing the Big Day Out festival, I haven't seen them yet but I'm keen to, same with The Butterfly Effect, they are pretty damn good. I've seen Frankenbok twice, they rock hard live. They had a really hard tack opening for Slayer and Machine Head but were still quality despite most of the crowd's distinct lack of interest.

    Celtic Frost and Type O Negative are two bands I've been listening to heaps lately.

    Can't wait to see Jane's Addiction and Deftones at the Big Day Out festival, both should rock majorly.

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    Dungeon.

    See if you can get their new release 'A Rise To Power' it's what Aussie metal should sound like.

    Brings me back to the late 80's thrash (with some power of course )

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    Mortal Sin, they were pretty kick arse back in their day.

    And Pacifier. They rock now, but they used to be a great thrash-based band, they made some killer songs.

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    I've seen Cog quite a few times and they get better each time I see them. The first time they supported The Butterfly Effect and the vocalist lost his voice so they apologised at the start and played a kick arse instrumental set.

    The Butterfly Effect are good. Except I think these days Clint looks like a skinny version of Jack Black with that hairstyle.

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    I keep meaning to track down the Butterfly Effect EP. I recently bought Frankenbok's "Loopholes And Great Excuses" and it rocks.

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    Yeah I reccomend it. They have a new single out now which rocks.

    Yeah I love Frankenbok's cover of 'Dont call me baby'....anytime I'm in a position to do karaoke I will Frankenbokerise it

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    Modus Vivendi, a small WA based prog band, who are damn fine actually, kinda like DT, and ver talented.

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    Yep, I heard that cover the other day, cool stuff.

    I know you're a fan of Alice In Chains and bands like that, but what other metal bands/sub-genres are you into anyway?

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    Modus Vivendi, a small WA based prog band, who are damn fine actually, kinda like DT, and ver talented.
    You've mentioned them before, I'll look out for them, wonder if they'll play around here, if they do, I'll check em' out. Segression play a lot around here, being local boys and all.
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    From what I know he's into Devin Townsend, Faith No More kind of shit.

    I know all

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    I like them, I mention bands I like alot, alot.

    Like 'deth, Nevermore, SyX, Edguy I tend to mention them all quite a bit.

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    Ah, Devin Townsend. Like Strapping Young Lad a lot, his other projects are pretty cool as well, I must say.

    What I've heard of Nevermore I quite like, and Faith No More are my favourite band of all time. Patton's side projects like Mr Bungle, Fantomas, Tomahawk and his work with the Dilinger Escape Plan are all pretty kick arse.

    Mortification are another decent local metal act, seen them live a few times, they're quite good to see as well.

    Queens Of The Stone Age's "Songs For The Deaf", now there's some quality stoner rock.Not quite Kyuss, but very,very rocking,indeed.
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    I never said I like them, I said he likes them.

    See I know what he likes.

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    And why is that, Outlaw?

    It seems Karnivool have scored the support slot for the Soulfly/Hatebreed gigs. Just thought you might like to know.

    Seeing as you're a huge fan of Down, do you like Corrosion of Conformity, EyeHateGod and Crowbar?

    If you like hardcore you should also check out Refused if you haven't heard them before.
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    Because I read his profile.

    I have a mate who likes AIC, and for some reason he thought I may like them, I gave him a compliation of metal tracks and he gave me their self titled release and it sucked, bad.

    However he liked the tracks I gave him, prolly since I picked out the commercialised ones, not the brutal or lengthy prog tracks.

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    I found Corrosion of Conformity before I found Down, top band, they deserve some mainstream success. I dont mind Crowbar, but really haven't listened to Eyehategod. And I've been meaning to get the Superjoint album.

    As for Refused, well I've been meaning to steal The Shape Of Punk To Come from a mate, but I haven't seen him recently.

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    What I've heard of Liquid Tension Experiment I like a lot, what albums in particular would you recommend, though? (I have a long wishlist of albums I want to get a hold of).

    You might like Alice In Chains' heavier stuff. The self-titled album is quite good but is a little by-the-numbers in places, especially when comparedto their other work.

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    Saw CoC with Pantera, they rocked very, very hard.

    Great news that Queens Of The Stone Age are coming out here again. You should also track down some Kyuss if you aren't that familiar with them, "Welcome To Sky Valley' is some very cool stuff.

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    They only have two albums, Liquid Tension Experiment 1 & 2.

    I have the first one, but I've never really bothered playing it, I guess I just own too many albums.

    Plus I should have Nile's In The Catacombs of Nephren-Ka in a month or so. And the New In Flames by Next Week!

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    Talking about Stoner Rock, I'm also getting Fu Manchu's California Crossing from a mate. Plus I liked the Squash that Fly clip on Rage a few months back.

    Yer CoC are damn fine.

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    I have that Nile album, it's pretty damn good, haven't listened to it in a fair while, though.

    And apparently the new Opeth album is out here on November 11, just in case you wanted to know.

    I own "California Crossing', it is quite good, I dig a lot of "stoner rock". Pity I misssed them on their tour here, though. I hear their shows were pretty damn rockin'.

    I'm also yet to get my hands on Sepultura's live album, I really must do so sometime soon. Reputedly, Soulfly play 'Roots Bloody Roots" live these days which should be killer if they decide to include it in their set list whilst over here.
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    My brother does want to know.

    I need to find you house and steal you albums.

    My Winamp playlists currently sits like this.
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    Have you ever seen Blood Duster live? I've caught them a few times.

    I also recommend you get your hands on Amen's "We Have Come For Your Parents".

    Which albums in particular are you after of mine, so to speak? I have a pretty large collection, like you said, I probably have too many albums. It's great when choosing something to listen to, though. Shitloads to choose from, anyway.
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    I grew up on Guns n Roses. My sister was listening to Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Nirvana and Soundgarden et al and that started the ball rolling. Sepultura were my favs for a number of years but they're on the backburner these days...still killer these days even without Max (heh I know I'm in the minority).

    Devy is my music God. I got a penchant for some death metal and a bit of black metal. But these days I live on a heavy dosage AIC, FNM and Sabbath.

    JB HiFi have been having the discount price blitz and I picked up all the FNM they had. I'm loving it. I wouldnt mind getting a hold of Patton's sideprojects as well.

    I'm counting down the days until Devy releases SYL III and his other accoustic based project.

    Does anyone like Spiritual Beggars?

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    No I've just seen SLayer/MH since I live a fair way out of the city it's hard to get into the city to see bands, but from what I've heard they just destroy everything (Blooduster that is).

    My brother owns 'We've come for your parents'. Plus I just's talking you seem to have a fair bit of decent shit I don't own. I already trade cd's with another guy in Melbourne.

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    Fucking love Sepultura, they're stuff with Derrick Green is quite good, but not on par with most of their earlier work. Judged as an entirely seperate entity, they are pretty good, but when compared with "old school' Sep they aren't anything special, IMO.

    Sabbath are one of my absolute favourites as well, they rock harder than most bands today.

    I actually like a lot of "grunge",Soundgarden's first few albums, for example, are actaully quite heavy and their later albums have some killer riffing.

    Fantomas in particualr are a bit of an acquired taste. As the old saying goes, try before you buy, that's my recommendation.

    Outlaw, do you ever buy through Metalshop? I used to a lot when they're weren't a lot of local record stores with good metal selections. I still do sometimes, though there's some quality places around here to pick up heavy music.

    How do you think you went overall in your exams anyway?
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    No I'll buy most of my cd's through JB, however in the city here, like in NSW they have Utopia, we have Metal Mayhem, which is Banana Alley, near Flinders Street Station which stocks all the power/prog metal I want.

    And alot of unknown Aussie metal.

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    I only got into Sabbath recently. I think Iommi's guitar work is just as cool as it was then as it is today. His riffs still hold their own with the current crop.

    I saw Sepultura on the Against tour and that fucking rocked hard as! My friend wasnt a huge fan of Derrick and it only took 1.5 hours with the Seps to convert him. I agree with ya though the Seps are on a totally different wavelength to what they were with Max but I still totally dig their stuff.

    Can you reccomend a few Fantomas songs? A lot of magazines panned Fantomas releases cos it was too hard to swallow. It has to be at least half decent with Mike Patton, a Melvin and the mighty Dave Lombardo.

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    Utopia is pretty cool, I've bought some quality, hard-to-find stuff there, haven't been there in a while, but I've wanted to go back for ages now. Picked up a Segression album there for five bucks as well a while back, plus some old Shihad albums that are difficult to get a hold of. The 'Fier's old, thrashy material is pretty cool, and like I said before, well worth checking out.

    I'm not a huge power metal fan, through I like a lot of Destroyer 666's stuff, particularly their thrashier output. Haven't got any of their albums, though. Truth Corroded are pretty cool as well.

    Pod People are a band I've been listening to a fair bit lately, a bit on the weird side but fairly cool.


    Originally posted by NiMMERS
    I only got into Sabbath recently. I think Iommi's guitar work is just as cool as it was then as it is today. His riffs still hold their own with the current crop.

    I saw Sepultura on the Against tour and that fucking rocked hard as! My friend wasnt a huge fan of Derrick and it only took 1.5 hours with the Seps to convert him. I agree with ya though the Seps are on a totally different wavelength to what they were with Max but I still totally dig their stuff.

    Can you reccomend a few Fantomas songs? A lot of magazines panned Fantomas releases cos it was too hard to swallow. It has to be at least half decent with Mike Patton, a Melvin and the mighty Dave Lombardo.
    Iommi is the man, though Randy Rhoads and Zakk Wylde aren't too far behind.

    Fantomas' first album doesn't have any "songs", so to speak, it is just one large piece of music. It takes some time to get into but you might like it a lot. I don't have "The Director's Cut", but some of the themes like "Rosemary's Baby" are pretty out there but fairly cool all the same.
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    That's a pretty cool playlist there, Outlaw.

    Forgot you were a Fozzy fan.

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    Fan, well i guess you could say that, I just like that kind of music, and treat the albums as greatest hits covers, well I guess that's all they are.

    Seriously, if you like that era of metal they're not bad.

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    Inflames - Reroute To Remain
    Soilwork - Natural Born Chaos

    \m/\m/ top albums!

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    I have "Natural Born Chaos", it rocks in a major way, "The Chainheart Machine" is also pretty damn killer.

    Chris Jericho is surprisingly quite a good singer, and they do justice to the songs that they cover.
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    Have you heard any of James LaBrie's Mullmuzzer project, Outlaw? I hear it's quite good.

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    No I don't.

    I still think James is the weakest link in DT, it's always been a pity Kevin Moore left Dt for his Chromakey project.

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    Yep, his vocals do let the band down on occassions. I was reading my mate's copy of "Kerrang!" yesterday, Spock's Beard's new album was reveiwed in there, got 3 K's. Can't say I've listened that much of these guys but I hear good things nonetheless.

    Looking forward to Soulfly/Hatebreed/Karnivool?

    Good to see Giants Of Science getting some airplat on Three Hours Of Power as well.

    If you aren't a fan of Meshuggah, you should check them out, they rock like bastards. Atari Teenage Riot are okay as well, I saw them once and they ripped it up live.
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    I own Destroy Erase Improve even if I haven't given it much of a spin.

    I haven't heard the new Beard album yet, however I do own both Day for Night and Kindness to Strangers and they're both fine albums.

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    Which is the better Spock's Beard album to get then? I downloaded a heap of their stuff a while back and was impressed.

    Have you heard any Karnivool? I can't say I have and was just interested as they're playing with Soulfly and Hatebreed in a few weeks time. I'm actually surprised that Segression didn't get the gig, seeing as they're all very friendly with Max Cavalera. Regardless, those shows will rock.

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    No I haven't hear any of Karnivool.

    What spock's beard stuff did you download. Basically they have two different types of albums, songs which is really long and songs which are more shorter and catchy.

    Kindness and Day4Night and shorter catchy albums
    while V and some albums I forget are longer more indepth pieces.

    I havent heard any of snow yet.

    I'd say Kindness even if most of the beard fans think it's their worst album (they still like it).

    I personally like it.

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    BTW,How long did it take you to stick all your CD's on to your computer?

    The tracks I downloaded by Spock's Beard were-

    Day For Night.
    The Healing Colours Of Sound.
    Gibberish.
    June.
    The Gypsy.
    Beware Of Darkness.
    Revelation.
    All On A Sunday.

    Ah, going to see Segression again on Saturday night. Should be a top show, the local boys never disappoint.

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    Most of those tracks are off Day for Night.

    Except June which is off Kindness

    Revelation and All On A Sunday are from V.

    I'd say get Kindness to strangers.

    NP: Aces High!

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    Cool, I think I'll check some of those albums out a little more when I eventually get around to it. So much metal, so little time. Ah well.

    Have you heard the Sepultura live album yet? Haven't got a hold of it, but I hear very, very good things.

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    No I haven't heard under a pale sky.

    Whatya think of the metal mags around the country, absolute shit.

    I see Korn, Linkin Park, Murderdolls on the front and I just put them back down.

    Stupid 'metal magazines'.

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    Replying to various posts- I agree, Fozzy does accomplish their goal of replicating some of that era. Irvine's voice can grate on me sometimes, but the music is actually good. Mesuggah is great too. Gotta love those non-4/4 times.

    And just to remind everyone, I'm seeing Blind Guardian, Symphony X, and Hammerfall within 4 weeks!!!!

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    Originally posted by Megawozniak on November 3rd
    I just figured I'd let you all know that I'm seeing Hammerfall, Blind Guardian and Symphony X within the next two months.
    You just had to rub it in again.

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    What mag are Linkin Park on the cover of? Fuck me. I don't hate all "nu metal" (though 99.9% of it is pure shit), but they don't even deserve that tag,record company-produced, watered-down wankers that they are. I used to read Metal Hammer but they started including too much emo,punk and pop/rock in it and I lost interest. I like a lot of rock and even a little emo and punk but a mag called METAL HAMMER should stick to that genre. I buy a metal amg to read about metal,and while I like other musical genres, that's what I like to read about in a magazine like that., not 28 Days.

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    Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


    Whatya think of the metal mags around the country, absolute shit.

    I see Korn, Linkin Park, Murderdolls on the front and I just put them back down.

    Stupid 'metal magazines'.
    Did anyone read Hot Metal when it was around? It was a kick arse mag that had good coverage of all metal. I think I still have every issue at home.

    I bought the Australian Kerrang and it is total shit. They haven't got a clue what they're on about.

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    Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
    Whatya think of the metal mags around the country, absolute shit.

    I see Korn, Linkin Park, Murderdolls on the front and I just put them back down.

    Stupid 'metal magazines'.
    Reading one of them is like wading through crap to find a pearl. They have some pretty good stuff in them, just very rarely. The best one I've read is Revolver, and it sucks pretty bad.

    I just visit online places like White Trash Devil, Uranium, or Mega Kung Fu if I want to read news or interviews. Metal mags are shit, especially when you compare them by size and price to something halfway entertaining, like Maxim (a case of comparing apples to oranges, but whatever).

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    Davey, you'd be proud of me.

    I've been listening to some of your heavy shit as of late:

    • Sepultura
    • Fear Factory
    • Queensryche
    • Corrosion of Comformity


    and of course Killswitch Engage. And i can say, that i have been quite impressed. While the singing doesn't appeal to me that much, the actual music is brilliant. I'm a fan of the heavier metal, and not the thrash style.

    A bit of a change from Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

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    Fear Factor and Sepultura are Thrash Metal Rhys.

    As for Queensryche, Operation Mindcrime rules as ever.

    I haven't heard any KillSwitch Engage however people I know rave about them.

    Is it Melodic Death then?

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    The songs i've heard from Sepultura and Fear Factory, it hasn't been that thrashy.

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    Well Sepultura and FF are pure thrash metal.

    Ask anyone in this thread who knows their thrash.

    So obviously you don't exactly know what thrash is.

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    I'm thinking thrash is the fast paced, heavy shit.

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    Sepultura were a thrash band around the late 80's but started to make write more individual stuff in the early 90's.

    Fear Factory thrash? They were death metal in the early days but slowly incorporated technology more into their material.

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    They're considered 90's thrash, along with Machinehead.

    fast paced heavy shit? gee that narrows the field down.

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    Mate, you know me. Always keeping it general.

    I dunno. I consider thrash to be that fast paced music. Can't really describe it as anything else. *shrug*

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    So Moby is thrash.

    YEAH \m/ moby!

    he does hold the guiness world record for fastest song!

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    Machine Head were thrash for 1 album
    I consider 90's thrash stuff like The Haunted et al.

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    Originally posted by Nemesis

    I just visit online places like White Trash Devil, Uranium, or Mega Kung Fu if I want to read news or interviews. Metal mags are shit, especially when you compare them by size and price to something halfway entertaining, like Maxim (a case of comparing apples to oranges, but whatever).
    Try blistering.com. Its a good site to keep up with news and has no bias towards any particular genre.

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    Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
    Fear Factor and Sepultura are Thrash Metal Rhys.

    As for Queensryche, Operation Mindcrime rules as ever.

    I haven't heard any KillSwitch Engage however people I know rave about them.

    Is it Melodic Death then?
    Except for FF first two albums which were more death metal with an industrial element in their sound as well, as Nimmers said.

    Killswitch Engage have been called "the band to kill nu metal". I don't quite agree, but they have some cool songs. I wouldn't call them thrash but there is a thrash and Swedish metal scene influence there.

    Pantera, Rhys. Get a hold of "Vulgar Display Of Power". For some "old school" thrash try someone like Exodus. Helloween are a cool speed metal band as well (I've got heaps of their stuff downloaded, very cool for the most part).

    I've read "Revolver" magazine before, they do have some quality articles, but heaps of shit stories on bands like Disturbed, Murderdolls and the like.

    Does anyone here like The (International) Noise Conspiracy? Not really a metal band but they rock like mothers.
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    Originally posted by -Kang-
    Try blistering.com. Its a good site to keep up with news and has no bias towards any particular genre.
    I go there sometimes, but it's not updated quickly enough.

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    Audioslave album out next week, man it should rock.

    Rhys, which Machine Head songs have you been listening to?

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    Post Iron Maiden - Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son

    1st listen Review


    Iron Maiden - Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son


    Well it's a Maiden album, I know all of you will groaaaan. I decided at 1:16am last night that I couldn't get to sleep and I'd listen to this album for the first time until it finished (2am). It's supposedly a concept album, but not like other concept albums, it's more of pieces of who the seventh son is and not what he does.

    Well I've heard the older Maiden albums such as Maiden/Killers/Beast/Piece and I wasn't quite set for this one, it's very progressively driven in comparision to the first 4 (supposedly Somewhere In Time is also but I'll say a few words on that next week when I've heard the album.

    1. Moonchild
    2. Infinite Dreams
    3. Can I Play With Madness
    4. Evil That Men Do
    5. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
    6. Prophecy
    7. Clairvoyant
    8. Only the Good Die Young


    The disc starts with a small poem about the Seventh Son of the Seventh Son, which it also closes with.

    Moonchild and Infinite dreams for me seem to run into each other, both are damn fine tracks and for some reason they work perfectly among each other.

    Can I play with Madness has a brilliant catchy chorus which you can't get out of your head.

    The Evil That Men Do, well I'd already heard this track on a few live discs as it's a live set regular, so I already knew this track. Starts off slowly and picks up nicely, leading into the title track.

    What a title track, a nice 10 minutes long, and brilliantly written, reminds me much of Suite Sister Mary from Queensryche's Operation: Mindcrime release, starts off as any other song, but somewhere in the middle it slows right down and sets a brilliant mood for the rest of the album.

    Prophecy has a nice acoustic guitar exit leading into The Clairvoyant, which just finishes this song nicely.

    Like the first two tracks Clairvoyant and Good Die Young work well together, I'd say they work better as a pair than alone, even though both songs can stand on their own. And again the song finishes with the poem of the seventh son legend.

    A damn fine album first listen, easy to get into, as with all of the Maiden albums, it's quite easy to see what is coming around the bend, with the chorus and verse forumla for much of the album, except in some progressive pieces.

    Very Nice
    9/10.

    Seeing I've only listened to the album once, I couldn't go that indepth on it, maybe later, or if someone else has heard the album well you opinion?
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    I reckon it's their third best album after "The Number Of The Beast" and "Powerslave". They rock like mothers, though. Hell yeah. I'll review an album or two when I get around to it.

    Aussie Kerrang! has some good stories sometimes, but giving Andrew W.K.'s and Korn's (who they seem to be in love with) latest albums five K's is damn near unforgivable.
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    They did Nile a few weeks back.

    And for one issue Down had the biggest review over silverchair, (also maiden's RIR got prominance over Diorama) which is nice.

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    Yep, that Down story was quality stuff.

    They have good features on bands like Soilwork, Segression, The Butterfly Effect, Cog, Deftones and others, sometimes you just get a bit of crap along with it.

    Any plans for some more reviews, Outlaw?

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    If I listen to another album for the first time.

    I should do the soilwork album, since I haven't really listened to that yet. Or perhaps something else. I'm not sure.

    Do you have any chat thingy's mate?

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    Yep, I have MSN. PM me for details if you want.

    Do you like Deftones at all? One of the very few supposed "nu metal" bands that I like, although they've moved away from that sub-genre somewhat, though. Can't wait to see them at BDO, I've been waiting to see them for years.

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    Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood


    Now this is a brilliant Hair metal album, a thin, fun album, if you want decent musicmanship you've got the wrong album, but anyway I love it.

    It's music you just play loud, and it's got an infectious vibe, Metal? Perhaps, damn fine, sure.

    1. T. n T. (Terror 'n Tinseltown)
    2. Dr. Feelgood
    3. Slice Of Your Pie
    4. Rattlesnake Shake
    5. Kickstart My Heart
    6. Without You
    7. Same Ol' Situation (S.O.S.)
    8. Sticky Sweet
    9. She Goes Down
    10. Don't Go Away Mad (Just Go Away)
    11. Time For Change

    Well the first track is an intro track, 42 seconds long, nothing much. Dr Feelgood automatically kicks in, brilliance.

    It's no wonder this album sold over 5 million and had 9 singles pulled form it.

    Slice of you pie, well another one you can tell it's written by Nikki Sixx, well the title of the song just says it. Doesn't it? lthough not as brilliant as Feelgood, still a great song, up there in the same field as the next track Rattlesnake Shake.

    Kickstart my heart does indeed kickstart the album into brilliance territory, a killer track, followed by a ballad, Without You (not that ballads aren't bad), again followed by another killer track in Same Ol' Situation.

    Sticky Sweet and She goes down, again Sixx specials, are shown in the titles of each track, both great songs. Followed by a better track.

    Don't Go Away mad (Just Go Away), well this is the song I listened to walking into each exam, it's a refreshing song, a great track, clears the mind, jus listen to it, if this was on the video hit shows, well you'd have alot more fun than crap like Linkin park around. It's a fun track, like the entire album.

    Time for Change is obviously a finishing track, it's a reflective track and you can feel the album winding down. Not bad, but doesn't hold up against it's predeccessor.

    9/10


    I couldn't be bothered finding a decent album cover, a fun album. I don't care if it's not metal, it's fun.

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    9 singles? Damn, the record company milked it for all it was worth, didn't they? Was Tommy Lee in the band then (methinks he was).

    What other non- metal bands are you into, if any?

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    Yes he was, he left though to form Methods of Mayhem.

    Yes 9 Singles, everything except the intro and the closing track.

    And it is metal. Glam Metal.

    I like a bit of Prog Rock as you know, but thats about it.

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    Can't say I thought much of Methods Of Mayhem (though Stephen Perkins from Jane's Addiction was the drummer).Tommy Lee also put a solo album out a few months ago.

    I'm just surprised that a band would release that many singles from just one album. Hmmmm.
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    The Band?

    Try Management, the band was on the road for 2 years, and they all went insane. Then Vince left since tensions were at an all time high.

    They became so pissed off Nikki killed himself with a drug overdose, but luckily (???) they saved him.

    The songs sold, so they kept putting out singles and selling out arenas.

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    Did domeone mention HAIR ROCK????

    in that case ......


    SWEET STANS TOP 15 HAIR METAL ALBUMS

    1. Motley Crue - Shout at the Devil (Punk Rock hair metal style)
    2. Guns n Roses - Appetite for Destruction (Best of the lot but Motley Crue had bigger hair)
    3. Bang Tango - Dancin on coals (The nearest thing america had to the Cult)
    4. Skid Row - Skid Row (When I was 16 I wanted as many girls as Seb Bach)
    5. Poison - Look what the cat dragged in (Actually quite a heavy album)
    6. Hanoi Rocks - All those wasted years (Live album featuring their greatest hits)
    7. Tigertailz - Bansai (Welsh glam rockers , this album has Megadeth & Metallica covers on it)
    8. Dokken - Under Lock & Key (I liked this a lot at the time)
    9. Van Halen - Fair Warning (My fave VH album ...has So this is love & One foot out the door on it)
    10.Kiss - Creatures of the Night (Heavy as FUCK)
    11.Ratt - Out Of The Cellar (Their finest moment)
    12.Faster Pussycat - Faster Pussycat (Liked them more than GnR at the time)
    13. LA Guns - Cocked & Loaded ( American band featuring Brit Phil Lewis who once smashed a computer & stormed out of a Kerrang interview)
    14. The Throbs - Language of vagabonds & theives (Kind of a 1990 version of the strokes but with more hair.Featured Ginger of the wildhearts for 2 weeks
    15.Def Leppard - High n Dry - Their best album , some of it sound like AC/DC




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    I heard my dad singing "Girls, Girls, Girls" the other day, which is kind of odd seeing as he never listens to anything like that. They can be pretty damn catchy, though.

    Is "Cherry Pie" on "Look What The Cat Dragged In"? Damn I thought that song was cool when I was about seven years old.

    "Creatures Of The Night" is quite a good album.

    What no W.A.S.P? Nah, kiddinhg. Understandably so, they were one of the very worst of the hair metal bands. W.A.S.P. was rumoured to stand for We Are Sexual Perverts. That sounds about right.

    BTW, very, very cool sig.

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    Cherry Pie was Warrant not Poison & is on their godawful album of the same name.You can have mine PLEASE.

    I forgot about WASP (as you do) I used to think Inside the Electric Circus was a pretty good album at the time.One of my mates still swears Blind In Texas is one of the best songs ever written.

    I had to change the sig some bastard took the MC5 pic down so I thought i`d change it to one of my longtime heros.

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    Whoops, I knew that, I just remember thinking the video was very damn cool with all the pies and chicks. Ah, the days of being too young to understand double entendres.

    Are you still into Kiss?

    That MC5 pic was quality stuff. Too bad you can't use it anymore.

    Ever thought of seeling some of the albums you have that you hate nowadays, or are they all in terrible condition now?

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    I still listen to Kiss occasionally.Back then I used to prefer the poppier 80s stuff but now I only really listen to the 70s material (And Ace`s solo album)I`ve not got any of the re-union albums because I don`t want my illusions shattered

    I have sold a few albums in the past but found that a couple of weeks later I wish i`d had them again & have not sold any since. I have a habit of liking something one day & hating it the next & then liking it again a few months later.Most of my dodgy metal past is on vinyl luckily so I only upgrade them to the CD versions on my favorites (If they`re cheap)For example last week I picked up a couple of 70`s Scorpions albums on CD when Uli Roth was still in the band for only a few quid each

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    Ah, The Scorpions, they rock. "Rock You Like A Hurricane" is one of my absolute favourite songs.

    Judging form your sig pic, is "Ride On" your favourite AC/DC song?

    Kiss played with the Melbourne symphony orchestra the other week. Somehow I can't see that mixing particularly well. So Ace's solo album is worth a listen, then?

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    If I had to pick a favorite AC/DC song it would probably be Hell ain`t a bad place to be.I think it has possibly the dirtiest guitar sounds ever commited to vinyl

    I have all 4 of the Kiss solo albums & they`re all totally different to each other

    Ace`s is the best as it has a Stones/New york dolls feel to it & is raw & just rocks plus it has New York Groove on it , the irony being it was one of Kiss`s biggest hit singles & 3 of the band didn`t even play on it.

    Paul sounds pretty much like the pop rock Kiss would do in the 80s but is still pretty good

    Gene`s is dissapointing. It has loads of collaberations. Best track is the opener Radioactive (With Joe Perry on guitar) but the rest is just bland soft rock & a Disney cover !!(when you wish upon a star)

    Peter`s is to be avoided at all costs as it`s all tepid disco rock & Beth style ballads

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    "Jailbreak", it rocks like a mother. The near-15 minute version on the "Live" album is incredible. "Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be" rocks as well, though.

    "Spotlightsss.... rifles....firing....he made it out.......... wwwwitttth a bullettt inhis baacckkkkk!!!!".

    I must say I've never really heard much of the Kiss solo work, that summary was very interesting.

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    Speaking of solo albums i`d reccomend the 3 Joe Perry solo albums he did in the early 80s after he left Aerosmith too

    They`re a bit like the Draw the Line era stuff but a bit rougher sounding

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    Didn't he call it The Joe Perry Project? He actually is a decent singer, quite surprisingly, though I haven't heard a whole lot of his solo material. I might have to check it out.

    Have you ever seen Aerosmith live?

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    Originally posted by Crabby

    Have you ever seen Aerosmith live?
    I WISH !!

    Joe actually had a singer in his band , he was called Charlie something although he still sang about half the stuff himself.My biggest regret is i`ve STILL not managed to find his 3rd solo album anywhere

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    Why dont you download and burn it then?

    And crabby, add me
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    Not everyone likes to take artists rightful income. Okay, I was only kidding there with that.

    What about bands like AC/DC, SS? It's a pity, Aerosmith rarely venture outside of the US these days. Not that they really need to, apparently they're in the Top 10 of the highest-earning musicians in the world today. Do you like any of the stuff the band have done over the last 15 years? With the exception of some very over-syrupy ballads (thank you there, Mr Tyler) and a few patchy albums, they still produce some quality material. Not on par with their 70's output, but decent all the same. Not as memorable but still reasonably enjoyable.
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    I`ve always thought a lot of bands have a kind of sell by date but occasionally you do get the odd gem. AC/DC`s last album I felt was possibly the best since For those about to rock,The last Bowie album wasn`t bad & Pump & Pemenant Vacation were ok.

    There`s very few bands i`ll buy albums of out of loyalty.For example i`ve not really liked any Elvis Costello stuff since the late 70s but I heard a couple of songs off his new album & liked them so I went out & bought the album.

    I still don`t own Ballbreaker coz I hated The Razors Edge so much but I heard Stiff Upper Lip on the radio & was really impressed so I went out to get it.

    All I wish for now is this garage rock revival gives Alice Cooper a few clues HINT HINT !!

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    I liked a fair bit of "The Razor's Edge", actually, despite the fact that Brian Johnson's voice doesn't sound too flash. "Ballbreaker" was a good album, but I thought "Stiff Upper Lip" was very good, a bit of a return to their blues roots.

    IMO, Permanent Vacation is pretty kick arse, better than Pump, though the latter seems to get a lot more attention. I bought Nine Lives ages ago, it has some decent songs even though I rarely listen to it anymore. I've been meaning to buy "Live Bootleg" for a while now. Isn't "Draw The Line" your favourite album of theirs? I like it a lot but I've always felt the two preceding album were better efforts. Just my opinion, though, really.

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    I`ve always liked music thats kind of underproduced & raw & that pretty much sums up Draw the Line. Plus that album has my 2 favorite Aerosmith songs ... I wanna know why & Kings & Queens.
    I say it`s my favorite album but it only beats Rocks & Toys in the Attic by the smallest of fractions.

    You HAVE to get Live Bootleg it`s just an awesome album.I had it on at work on my personal stereo every day for 2 weeks 8 hours a day & STILL didn`t get bored of it

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    I've been meaning to pick it up, most of the Aerosmith catalogue is pretty cheap to pick up around here. Sounds good. When was it recorded? Toys In The Attic has always been my favourite, it just rocks like a mother the whole way through. Haven't you got virtually the entire Aerosmith back catalogue?

    The weird thing I find around here with Aerosmith is that most people don't realise how long they've been around for, (most Australians only know them from their late 80's/90's output) and that they were once a really ground-breaking hard rock band. It's a little bit annoying when I say that I like 'old school" Aerosmith, and people reply, "Yep, I love Janie's Got A Gun", their old stuff was better".

    Outlaw, my MSN is screwing up ATM, but I have added you to my list. Rock on.
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