NCAA Football

[Kneeneighbor]

Here is the problem with the UCLA job in my mind. You are in town with USC who has a ton of advantages over you at the moment.

1. More Tradition
2. More Recent Sucsess
3. Lower Admission Standards
4. Better Facilities (Both stadiums are meh, UCLA is improving their other things and may catch up)
5. USC Keeps Beating You (UCLA won the 1st 3 under Mora while USC was on probation, since then its 3 straight for USC)

In theory USC is going to have a huge recruiting advantage and keep getting better stars.

My prediction right now is Chip Kelly goes to Florida. (Which has its own issues for another post) Kevin Sumlin will become the next coach at UCLA and bring Noel Mazzone back to run the offense.

[The Law]

I wouldn't be that into the Florida job. Sure, tons of talent down there. But the expectations are so high. Averaging 10 wins per year probably isn't enough, you're going to be expected to win the SEC. McElwain didn't light the world on fire, but two SEC Championship Games in three years isn't the sort of resume where you expect the coach to get canned halfway through his third season.

[Pablo Diablo]

Miami trailing at half to Pitt. Not a good look.

[Kdestiny]

Miami trailing at half to Pitt. Not a good look.

They've overcome worse deficits

[Pablo Diablo]

For sure. But one would hope with the championship game and the possible playoffs coming up soon you want to be taking care of in ranked teams.

[Pablo Diablo]

Rosier looking terrible. Punter too.

*edit* bringing in the backup with the season on the line though is definitely questionable.

[The Law]

Miami loses the week before the title game. Who's booking this shit, WWE?

[Kdestiny]

Whomp there it is

[Chris Scott]

Fuck out of all these games it had to be this one, just fuck off.

[Kdestiny]

[Kneeneighbor]

I could still see "Burt" surviving one more year. The buyout drops quite a bit next year. Plus could they really hire a new AD this quick and then also hire a HC? I see them doing the AD this year and the football coach next year after the new AD has some time to make approaches.

Belima fired walking off the field yesterday.

[_me]

Belima fired walking off the field yesterday.

Seriously. They didn't even wait for him to leave the field. They had been waiting for the season to end. You were right.

I still think it is a mistake though. They are at best the 4th best job in SEC open this year (UF, TAMU, Tenn). They will not find a better coach than him this off-season. But the next coach might get a better record anyway.

[Kneeneighbor]

Kelley in at UCLA.

Nebraska job is open as predicted.

[Rancid_Planet]

Fucking sucks. Now Fla and Tenn have to compete more directly for the next best coach. Tenn has more money to spend and nicer facilities and lower standards. But we also have to play Alabama every goddamn year.

[Pablo Diablo]

I guess I technically want Alabama to win this to eliminate Auburn from playoff contention as a Canes "fan" right?

Feels dirty.

[Kdestiny]

I guess I technically want Alabama to win this to eliminate Auburn from playoff contention as a Canes "fan" right?

Feels dirty.

It is

[Pablo Diablo]

I'm not enough of a Canes fan. Seeing Saban's upset face is just too great. Come on Tigers, finish it up.

[Mr. Boombastic]

The real question is does it matter? Will Alabama make the playoffs regardless? Who is in, probably the ACC champ, SEC champ, and Wisconsin and Oklahoma if they win out?

Edit of course it would be weird for 2 loss Auburn to make it over 1 loss Alabama, even if Auburn is the SEC champ

[The Law]

Can't wrap my head around the playoff scenarios at this point. Just going to watch it play out and enjoy it.

[Tyson]

The real question is does it matter? Will Alabama make the playoffs regardless? Who is in, probably the ACC champ, SEC champ, and Wisconsin and Oklahoma if they win out?

Edit of course it would be weird for 2 loss Auburn to make it over 1 loss Alabama, even if Auburn is the SEC champ

I've got Oklahoma and the winner of Miami/Clemson; if Wisconsin and Georgia win their respective title games, they also are in.

[The Law]

My guess would be that Alabama needs some help to get in. I don't know exactly how much help, but they should be rooting for TCU, Stanford (tonight and against USC), and Ohio State.

[Pablo Diablo]

I think Alabama gets in over the ACC champ if it comes down to deciding between them for the 4th spot. Losing to Auburn on the road is much better than losing to Syracuse or Pitt.

[Kdestiny]

I see Clemson getting in if they win

[The Law]

I think Dan Mullen has to be the guy for Florida with Chip Kelly taking the UCLA job. Bob Stoops would be a home run if they could lure him out of retirement.

Scott Frost has to be the top candidate for Nebraska. Seems like a good fit for both, they're extremely lucky to have an alum as a top quality head coach.

Nobody is jumping out at me for Tennessee. Would Justin Fuente leave Virginia Tech? Mike Norvell from Memphis doesn't really seem established enough. David Cutcliffe is old but has ties to the program and has done a good job at Duke. Plus the Mannings love him.

Texas A&M seems likely to be open. Their AD used to be at Washington so I imagine he'll give Chris Petersen a call. I think Gary Patterson is TCU for life at this point but that would be a home run hire.

[Tyson]

I think Alabama gets in over the ACC champ if it comes down to deciding between them for the 4th spot. Losing to Auburn on the road is much better than losing to Syracuse or Pitt.

The ACC champion, be it Clemson/Miami, is in, one loss plus a conference championship says so; the Sooners also, because of that same criteria.

You need one of Georgia/Wisconsin to lose, which would allow one loss Wisconsin/Alabama to have legit arguments (resulting in who beat/lost to whom, SOS, etc); a second loss by Georgia means they're done.

If both lose, maybe an undefeated conference champion Central Florida sneaks into the playoffs?

If Georgia loses but Wisconsin wins, then we have a clusterfuck. Alabama probably has the edge (name recognition + one-loss) for the fourth spot over one of the two-loss teams. If you want expansion to an eight team playoff, you really want Georgia to lose...

[Rancid_Planet]

I think Dan Mullen has to be the guy for Florida with Chip Kelly taking the UCLA job. Bob Stoops would be a home run if they could lure him out of retirement.

Scott Frost has to be the top candidate for Nebraska. Seems like a good fit for both, they're extremely lucky to have an alum as a top quality head coach.

Nobody is jumping out at me for Tennessee. Would Justin Fuente leave Virginia Tech? Mike Norvell from Memphis doesn't really seem established enough. David Cutcliffe is old but has ties to the program and has done a good job at Duke. Plus the Mannings love him.

Texas A&M seems likely to be open. Their AD used to be at Washington so I imagine he'll give Chris Petersen a call. I think Gary Patterson is TCU for life at this point but that would be a home run hire.

Cutcliffe would've been an ok choice to replace Fulmer 9 years ago but at this point I'd pass on him. I want Mullen, but I don't think he's leaving Miss St. Word around the campfire is that Mike Leach would take the job if offered. I don't want him though. I don't think he can handle SEC defenses.

Jim Bob Cooter would be so sweet but he'll hold out for something better.

Bad year to need a coach. All the top programs are hiring.

[_me]

I think Alabama gets in over the ACC champ if it comes down to deciding between them for the 4th spot. Losing to Auburn on the road is much better than losing to Syracuse or Pitt.

Alabama actually has a very poor resume this year. If they were not "Alabama", they are basically Wisconsin. Actually Wisconsin had a better strength of schedule before yesterday and everyone said they had no chance unless they are undefeated.

[_me]

Cutcliffe would've been an ok choice to replace Fulmer 9 years ago but at this point I'd pass on him. I want Mullen, but I don't think he's leaving Miss St. Word around the campfire is that Mike Leach would take the job if offered. I don't want him though. I don't think he can handle SEC defenses.

Jim Bob Cooter would be so sweet but he'll hold out for something better.

Bad year to need a coach. All the top programs are hiring.

Cutcliffe seems like who they will end up with. Feels like they have done the "up and coming" and gotten burned. Time to find someone who has been through it before. But I agree he won't do any better than Jones did.

I wonder which SEC program is the most disconnected from reality: Tennessee, Arkansas or Texas A&M? All three talk like they are the right HC away from national title contention. If that coach was Saban maybe, but otherwise their peak is basically a divisional title every couple of years at best. Maybe, maybe Texas A&M could be since they have Texas to recruit but their history says they can't get their shit together long enough.

[Kneeneighbor]

My sources are sayinh Sumlin will be fired. Adding A&M to the list.

Open Jobs:
Florida
Ole Miss
Oregon St.
Tennessee
Nebraska
Arkansas
UCLA - Chip Kelly
Texas A&M

[lotjx]

I expect the Notre Dame job to be open if he loses the bowl game by a large margin.

[lotjx]

I think Alabama gets in over the ACC champ if it comes down to deciding between them for the 4th spot. Losing to Auburn on the road is much better than losing to Syracuse or Pitt.

Bama should not get in over anyone with a one loss record.

[Kneeneighbor]

Arizona St has parted ways with Todd Graham.

Open Jobs:
Arizona St
Arkansas
Florida
Nebraska
Ole Miss
Oregon St.
Tennessee
Texas A&M
UCLA- Chip Kelly

[The Law]

Florida's going after Mullen. Seems like the right move for both sides.

[The Law]

Tennessee apparently targeting Greg Schiano. I was just thinking it seemed like he should be in play for some jobs. He was really successful at Rugers (these things are all relative). His NFL run didn't work out but before that he was being talked about for jobs like Penn State and Michigan.

[Rancid_Planet]

I'll take Schiano any old day of the week. That's my kind of coach for the most part.

As far as what _me was saying. Tenn isn't too disconnected from reality. They just expect more than what they've been getting which is historically reasonable. Tenn is a major football program. It's supposed to be a 10 and 11 win team during it's good years and a 8 and 9 win team during it's bad years. Tenn isn't supposed to contend for national titles every year but it should be in the mix for divisional SEC titles every year. The alumni and Atheletic dept know that.

What they've been getting from Jones is 9 wins in the good years and 4 or 5 wins in the bad years. That's just not acceptable here. Never has been.

Schiano doesn't have to beat Alabama every year. Nor does he have to beat FLA every year. Just contend. That's all.

[Kneeneighbor]

I think Alabama gets in over the ACC champ if it comes down to deciding between them for the 4th spot. Losing to Auburn on the road is much better than losing to Syracuse or Pitt.

Not only will Clemson get in they will be the 1 seed.

[Pablo Diablo]

Ok, thinking back on it you guys are right. That was a little silly of me to think a 1 loss ACC champ wouldn't make the playoffs.

[Kneeneighbor]

Schiano officially in at Tennessee, Mullen in at Florida which opens the Miss St job. Sumlin also officially out at A&M as reported here earlier today.

Open Jobs:
Arizona St
Arkansas
Florida- Dan Mullen
Mississippi St.
Nebraska
Ole Miss
Oregon St.
Tennessee- Greg Schiano
Texas A&M
UCLA- Chip Kelly

[Kneeneighbor]

Decided we should probably list the non power 5 jobs as well because those will start to shuffle around as well. I have 3 from earlier in the year in Georgia Southern, UTEP and South Alabama. They all have been added to the list. Let me know if I am missing any.

Open Jobs:
Arizona St
Arkansas
Florida- Dan Mullen
Georgia Southern
Mississippi St.
Nebraska
Ole Miss
Oregon St.
South Alabama
Tennessee- Greg Schiano
Texas A&M
UCLA- Chip Kelly
UTEP

[lotjx]

The Rock at Tennessee now has Schiano covered up Child Rape at Penn State spray painted on it today. I think Vols fans are not having this.

[PurePlayer]

I think Alabama gets in over the ACC champ if it comes down to deciding between them for the 4th spot. Losing to Auburn on the road is much better than losing to Syracuse or Pitt.

That is just silly

[PurePlayer]

The ACC champion, be it Clemson/Miami, is in, one loss plus a conference championship says so; the Sooners also, because of that same criteria.

You need one of Georgia/Wisconsin to lose, which would allow one loss Wisconsin/Alabama to have legit arguments (resulting in who beat/lost to whom, SOS, etc); a second loss by Georgia means they're done.

If both lose, maybe an undefeated conference champion Central Florida sneaks into the playoffs?

If Georgia loses but Wisconsin wins, then we have a clusterfuck. Alabama probably has the edge (name recognition + one-loss) for the fourth spot over one of the two-loss teams. If you want expansion to an eight team playoff, you really want Georgia to lose...

There is only a clusterfuck if Ohio State wins or Oklahoma loses. The sec champ, Acc champ, Wisconsin and Oklahoma are in if they win. If auburn wins they are in and same for Wisconsin. Only way Bama gets in is if Oklahoma loses or if they decide to pick Bama over Ohio State

[Rancid_Planet]

The Rock at Tennessee now has Schiano covered up Child Rape at Penn State spray painted on it today. I think Vols fans are not having this.

It's all over the local news. Fans protesting in small groups all over. State politicians are already going on record against him.

[Tyson]

There is only a clusterfuck if Ohio State wins or Oklahoma loses. The sec champ, Acc champ, Wisconsin and Oklahoma are in if they win. If auburn wins they are in and same for Wisconsin. Only way Bama gets in is if Oklahoma loses or if they decide to pick Bama over Ohio State

If Oklahoma loses what? There is no Big-12 title game, the Sooners are off until one of the National Semi-Finals in January.

A two-loss Auburn getting into the playoff, even if they beat Georgia to win the SEC, I just can't see that happening...

[Kdestiny]

If Oklahoma loses what? There is no Big-12 title game, the Sooners are off until one of the National Semi-Finals in January.

A two-loss Auburn getting into the playoff, even if they beat Georgia to win the SEC, I just can't see that happening...

You must've forgotten that they play TCU next week for the Big 12 title.

Auburn is in if they win the SEC title. They have to be.

[PurePlayer]

If Oklahoma loses what? There is no Big-12 title game, the Sooners are off until one of the National Semi-Finals in January.

A two-loss Auburn getting into the playoff, even if they beat Georgia to win the SEC, I just can't see that happening...

Wrong on both accounts. Oklahoma plays TCU. And it’s a FACT auburn gets in with a win. auburn would have beaten two number 1 teams. Nobody can say that.

[Kdestiny]

Wrong on both accounts. Oklahoma plays TCU. And it’s a FACT auburn gets in with a win

I see it being:

1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Wisconsin
4. Auburn

Georgia winning with Wisconsin beating Ohio St. would certainly complicate things. Same with Miami beating Clemson.

[Kneeneighbor]

Schiano hiring being met with protests over his time at Penn St. There are claims he came in speaking about what he saw in the showers by McQueary.

Leaving him on for now


Open Jobs:
Arizona St
Arkansas
Florida- Dan Mullen
Georgia Southern
Mississippi St.
Nebraska
Ole Miss
Oregon St.
South Alabama
Tennessee- Greg Schiano
Texas A&M
UCLA- Chip Kelly
UTEP

[Kdestiny]

Sounds like they aren't bringing him in now

[The Law]

Sounds like Schiano and Tennessee are calling it off. Never seen anything quite like this.

[Kneeneighbor]

Open Jobs:
Arizona St
Arkansas
Florida- Dan Mullen
Georgia Southern
Mississippi St.
Nebraska
Ole Miss
Oregon St.
South Alabama
Tennessee-
Texas A&M
UCLA- Chip Kelly
UTEP

Tenn job back open.

[lotjx]

At least Tennessee is better than Alabama when it comes to this subject.

[The Law]

Who is going to want to coach Tennessee after this mess?

[PurePlayer]

I see it being:

1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Wisconsin
4. Auburn

Georgia winning with Wisconsin beating Ohio St. would certainly complicate things. Same with Miami beating Clemson.

How? Georgia wins and they would only have 1 loss right? Same with Miami. They would both have good wins. Imo, the winner of those games are obviously in

[Rancid_Planet]

Sounds like Schiano and Tennessee are calling it off. Never seen anything quite like this.

Fuck. Gonna wind up with a nobody coaching the team.

[Rancid_Planet]

Who is going to want to coach Tennessee after this mess?

We've actually got that on a big sign hanging over Neyland Stadium.

[PurePlayer]

At least Tennessee is better than Alabama when it comes to this subject.

You do know that the fans are idiots and don’t know the whole story right? Everyone is so quick to place blame without knowing the whole story. Do you really think he would be coaching at Ohio State right now? Laughable by the TN program and their moronic fans

[Rancid_Planet]

At least Tennessee is better than Alabama when it comes to this subject.

"Tennessee. At least you're not in Alabama"

[Pablo Diablo]

That is just silly

Yeah thanks Pure. Already admitted to that.

[Kdestiny]

How? Georgia wins and they would only have 1 loss right? Same with Miami. They would both have good wins. Imo, the winner of those games are obviously in

Where would that leave Bama? Are they completely out either way?

[PurePlayer]

Where would that leave Bama? Are they completely out either way?

They are in if Oklahoma loses or 50/50 shot if Ohio State wins according to the projections. The shit storm happens if Ohio State wins the big 10

made an edit

[lotjx]

You do know that the fans are idiots and don’t know the whole story right? Everyone is so quick to place blame without knowing the whole story. Do you really think he would be coaching at Ohio State right now? Laughable by the TN program and their moronic fans

I lived an hour away from Penn State, everyone here knows Joe Pa never ran a clean program.

[PurePlayer]

What does that have to do with anything? Did you bother to read the testimony or do any research?

[Kneeneighbor]

Ill be honest. My first thought when I saw his name was "wasnt there some sort of scandal with him?"

Then I went and looked it up. I can see people not wantong him there.

[PurePlayer]

He coached during that time. There are condracting testimonies. The one testimony against him is from one of the most non credible sources and the other source basically nixed that he was involved. While it’s understandable, do you think any of those fans even did any research? They basically convincted him without a fair trial

[Kneeneighbor]

It's not a trial. It is fans stating who they want representing their University.

[Kneeneighbor]

Ole Miss removes interim tag off of Matt Luke. Fans seem to hate it, players seem to love it.

Open Jobs:
Arizona St
Arkansas
Florida- Dan Mullen
Georgia Southern
Mississippi St.
Nebraska
Ole Miss- Matt Luke
Oregon St.
South Alabama
Tennessee-
Texas A&M
UCLA- Chip Kelly
UTEP

[PurePlayer]

It's not a trial. It is fans stating who they want representing their University.

based on something they don’t have all the facts on.

[PurePlayer]

Every fan base should just protest any decision their team makes from now on

[Rancid_Planet]

I wonder who Twitter wants to hire as the new coach?

Ooooh I hope it's someone good.

[Kneeneighbor]

But the University needs fan support to get the money they need. Tennessee could have said F off we are hiring him.

You can be upset about the reason why he didn't have fan support but the fact is you need that fan support. There are plenty of other candidates out there who were not accused of this. The fans and boosters have said they would prefer that. They have every right to do so.

This isnt the NFL. Colleges need that booster money coming in.

[Tyson]

They are in if Oklahoma loses

There is nothing for Oklahoma to lose, there is no Big-12 title game...the Sooners have one of the four national semi-final spots.

[Pablo Diablo]

Come on Tyson. Just do some simple googling. The Big 12 has a title game again and they will be playing against TCU.

In fact the reason the Big 12 has a title game again is because they suspect that their teams were snubbed once because the Big 12 did not have a title game to differentiate between co-champs Baylor and TCU.

[PurePlayer]

There is nothing for Oklahoma to lose, there is no Big-12 title game...the Sooners have one of the four national semi-final spots.

Are you stupid or something?

[Kneeneighbor]

I am hearing rumors that the situation at Florida St is deteriorating. Jimbo Fisher is frustrated with the AD over his staff and their compensation. The AD is sick of the rumors Jimbo is leaving every time a job opens and doesn't want to keep renegotiating his deal. A split is looking more and more likely in Tallahassee.

[Kneeneighbor]

I am now comfortable enough to say Scott Frost to Nebraska. Was some cold feet and last second hesitation but sounds like everything is done. I wouldn't be surprised if the deal is not announced until after he coaches the conference championship game. . . however the rumors will ramp up this week.

Open Jobs:
Arizona St
Arkansas
Florida- Dan Mullen
Georgia Southern
Mississippi St.
Nebraska- Scott Frost
Ole Miss- Matt Luke
Oregon St.
South Alabama
Tennessee-
Texas A&M
UCF
UCLA- Chip Kelly
UTEP

[The Law]

Home run hire for Nebraska. Brilliant young coach who knows the culture and will have the full support of the fans. Exciting times coming in Lincoln.

I think Schiano got a raw deal here. It's just pure guilt by association as far as I can tell, there's no real evidence to connect him to Sandusky other than he was coaching at Penn State in the 90s. No mention of him in the Freeh Report.

What are we hearing about Texas A&M? Big job with no obvious candidates. I've heard Jimbo mentioned, if he's really leaving FSU I guess that's an option.

[Kneeneighbor]

Home run hire for Nebraska. Brilliant young coach who knows the culture and will have the full support of the fans. Exciting times coming in Lincoln.

I think Schiano got a raw deal here. It's just pure guilt by association as far as I can tell, there's no real evidence to connect him to Sandusky other than he was coaching at Penn State in the 90s. No mention of him in the Freeh Report.

What are we hearing about Texas A&M? Big job with no obvious candidates. I've heard Jimbo mentioned, if he's really leaving FSU I guess that's an option.

The link is that McQueary said that Schiano came into the office white as a ghost and said he saw Saundusky in the shower with a kid. Some question McQueary's credibility but thats where the link is. Not just that he was there in the 90s.

Jimbo is number 1 target for A&M. I am still not convinced about it happening but I like I said earlier Jimbo and the AD at FSU seem to be at odds.

[Kneeneighbor]

David Bailiff has been fired after 1-11 season at Rice. He had some success early but really fell off the table recently.

Open Jobs:
Arizona St
Arkansas
Florida- Dan Mullen
Georgia Southern
Mississippi St.
Nebraska- Scott Frost
Ole Miss- Matt Luke
Oregon St.
Rice
South Alabama
Tennessee-
Texas A&M
UCF
UCLA- Chip Kelly
UTEP

[Kneeneighbor]

Hearing Derek Mason (head coach at Vandy) is on the short list at Arizona St.

Kurt Roper (Offensive coordinator at South Carolina) is a target of Rice.

EDIT: A few more names I am hearing floated at Mississippi St are Bill Clark (UAB head coach) Brent Venables (DC Clemson) and Jeremy Pruitt (DC Alabama) I do not think any of these 3 will happen though. Clark seems poised to stay ay UAB at least another year with the program and all its been through. Venables and Pruitt are in positions to sit and wait and take a better job.

[PurePlayer]

The link is that McQueary said that Schiano came into the office white as a ghost and said he saw Saundusky in the shower with a kid. Some question McQueary's credibility but thats where the link is. Not just that he was there in the 90s.

Bradley and Schiano both denied this though. Even if it were true which it probably isn't, Schiano told his superior about it right? You are telling me he could coach at Rutgers, OSU, and the NFL but not TN? That's just nonsense.

[Kneeneighbor]

I am not against Schiano. I don't care either way. I am simply saying that if fans turn on your coach, regardless of the reason, you need to make a move in college athletics.

[PurePlayer]

Is this the first time the fans were against their coach though? Hell no it's not. The TN fans are to blame for their ignorance and the program is to blame for being spineless.

[Kneeneighbor]

And Tennessee fans will have to live with the second choice. But as soon as boosters start pulling money your coach is in trouble. Its why Sumlin is out at A&M. The income from the football boosters and revenue from the football team often times pays for every other sport the college fields.

[_me]

They are going to get way worse than their second choice. I see another Derek Dooley coming. Who is taking that job over all the better ones still available now?

[Kneeneighbor]

How would everyone rank the remaining open jobs?

Throwing together a quick list I might go:

1. Texas A&M
2. Nebraska
3. Arkansas
4. Miss St
5. Arizona St
6. Tennessee

[_me]

1. TAMU (money + facilities + TX)
2. Arkansas (money + SEC)
3. ASU (location + weather + easier conference)
4. Nebraska (tradition + conference)
5. Tenn (conference + stadium)
6. Miss St (conference)

FSU easily is #1 if it opens.

[Tyson]

Come on Tyson. Just do some simple googling. The Big 12 has a title game again and they will be playing against TCU.

In fact the reason the Big 12 has a title game again is because they suspect that their teams were snubbed once because the Big 12 did not have a title game to differentiate between co-champs Baylor and TCU.

Are you stupid or something?

My bad, I erred.

I assumed you couldn't have a conference title game if a) there was only one division and b) you had beat them in league play...

Egg on my face, lads...

[Kdestiny]

Are you stupid or something?

It's okay, I've found out today that sometimes it can be hard to read for some people.

I kinda hope the shit hits the fan and TCU beats Oklahoma. Though I hate both Ohio State and Wisconsin, but State winning would make things interesting

[PurePlayer]

It's ok Tyson. I was only being a dick because we already told you Oklahoma had to play TCU. Sorry about that

[soxfanatic]

Tennessee hired Bruce Pearl to be their basketball coach a while back. He didn't have the greatest reputation when hired and of course trouble followed him. But, even when the problems began they didn't get rid of him right away. Wonder why it was ok then to have a coach with recorded violations, but now they can't hire a guy based on speculation?

Also, if this is the way that college football is headed where the fans and twitter have so much pull then I am not looking forward to what comes next.

What kind of a precedent does this set? Not just for Tennessee, but now for any fan base that doesn't like a decision that their school makes.

[The Law]

Maybe they'll just keep Brady Hoke.

Please let that happen.

[_me]

It's okay, I've found out today that sometimes it can be hard to read for some people.

I kinda hope the shit hits the fan and TCU beats Oklahoma. Though I hate both Ohio State and Wisconsin, but State winning would make things interesting

I kind of feel like TCU winning the rematch is the only possible outcome for the B12. Baylor/TCU missed the first playoff because they didn't have a conference title game; would be fitting that artificially creating one with only 10 members would end up costing OU this time.

[The Law]

Matt Campbell signed an extension with Iowa State so we can cross him off as a candidate for any jobs this year. He'll be a top candidate for a lot of jobs going forward, doing a tremendous job at Iowa State.

David Cutcliffe reportedly turned down Tennessee.

Joe Morehead from Penn State in the running for Mississippi State. Love that guy, think it would be a good hire.

[Rancid_Planet]

Goddamn it. Just offer the job to Les Miles.

Let him eat the grass at Neyland and let's get back to winning.

[Kneeneighbor]

Mike Gundy steam is picking up in Tennessee.

[_me]

Smart idea if he is tired of having a job for life. He could coach at Okie St for 30 years if he wants. He (or whoever the next coach is) will be gone in less than five in Knoxville.

[Kneeneighbor]

Schools are on the hook right now for 60 million dollars to all of the fired coaches.

[Chris Scott]

So I don't think it will happen, but if Canes beat Clemson on Saturday, surely they'd be very strong in going to the playoffs.

[Rancid_Planet]

Smart idea if he is tired of having a job for life. He could coach at Okie St for 30 years if he wants. He (or whoever the next coach is) will be gone in less than five in Knoxville.

Not if he can come in and do anything close to what he's done at OK St.

Tenn is getting a bad rap here. This is a school that up until 2008 had only two head coaches over the course of my life (born in 79). Then Fulmer got old and didn't want to travel to recruit anymore and it was time for change. Lane left after one season to go get his dream job. Then the fuck ups began. Derek Dooley was a complete loss. He was just in way over his head. His performance would have gotten him fired from just about any school. Then Butch Jones comes in. He beat FLA once in five years, bama zero times, never won the sec, never won the division and by the end pretty much proved that without Josh Dobbs, he would never have accomplished anything at all as a head coach at Tenn.

The next guy doesn't have to be perfect. He just has to be adequate.