21 years of Badger: Enter the BadgerVerse Mafia

[Dreyski]

I mean, that would require her to remember she is playing, and post the action... its about 50/50 that it would be wasted by not using, or snap shoot someone like me.

Ah, I live for the potential chaos. She might even target herself.

[Dreyski]

You don’t saw swimmed but it’s swam. Yet you say jumped but you can’t say jamp.

What's the plural of house?
What's the plural of mouse?

I did this shit for 17 years, can you imagine?

[Peter Griffin]

You have read the instructions right and know we’re voting to give someone a vig kill right?

[Peter Griffin]

So shouldn't everyone just vire for themselves really :lol"

[Badger]

What's the plural of house?
What's the plural of mouse?

I did this shit for 17 years, can you imagine?

I think ours is probably one of if not the hardest languages to learn for anyone going abroad (ie coming here) in the world because there’s so many variables.

[Jitters]

Vote Jitters

[Blind Ninja]

Ah, I live for the potential chaos. She might even target herself.

that would be amusing

[Dreyski]

irregular verbs isn't even the half of it and nor the most diifcult to learn. It's the non-phonetic nature of English. Consider the letters 'ough' in these words:

1. though (like o in go)
2. through (like oo in too)
3. cough (like off in offer)
4. rough (like uff in suffer)
5. plough (like ow in flower)
6. ought (like aw in saw)
7. borough (like a in above)

[Blind Ninja]

Ah, I live for the potential chaos. She might even target herself.

Really, for max Chaos, wouldnt claws be a better option?

[Blind Ninja]

irregular verbs isn't even the half of it and nor the most diifcult to learn. It's the non-phonetic nature of English. Consider the letters 'ough' in these words:

1. though (like o in go)
2. through (like oo in too)
3. cough (like off in offer)
4. rough (like uff in suffer)
5. plough (like ow in flower)
6. ought (like aw in saw)
7. borough (like a in above)

Then you have things like the diversity of the word, Fuck... which could be used as a noun, verb, and adjective in the same sentence

[Dreyski]

Really, for max Chaos, wouldnt claws be a better option?

I see it as max chaos vs random chaos, or in Donald Rumsfeld terms, 'known unknowns' vs 'unknown unknowns'

[Dreyski]

Then you have things like the diversity of the word, Fuck... which could be used as a noun, verb, and adjective in the same sentence

Yes, I've done the odd lesson on swearing when I liked my (usually teenage) class and its the last lesson of the year (so less blowback)

But don't even get me started on a language where these sentences are valid:

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher


(it's all in the word stress and internal punctuation)

[Morrison]

vote CWE

i think we can get a decent amount of VIBES off of what cwe does with a vig kill, especially one that has a hard deadline.

[FutureHold]

I would love to see who CWE would kill if he had a vig kill

[Morrison]

you know how we find that out.

[Psycho666Soldier]

CWE is also a fine candidate

I also think Morrison's vote on CWE is probably a towny vote. Especially if CWE is town, because if I'm scum, I wouldn't trust what he would do with a gun even if I'm the one that gave it to him.

[MTR]

CWE is not a bad choice. I like the reasoning

[Insaner]

I do think most people who started voting theirselves are probably town

Statistically true but also why

CWE is also a fine candidate

I also think Morrison's vote on CWE is probably a towny vote. Especially if CWE is town, because if I'm scum, I wouldn't trust what he would do with a gun even if I'm the one that gave it to him.

Why is CWE a fine candidate? Why make a post saying CWE is a fine candidate before he even posts?

These posts feel like posting for the sake of posting + maybe trying to muddy the waters with false connections for when Psycho flips

[Insaner]

Fwiw I don't hate liking Morrison's post even though I wouldn't go as far as to call it towny

[Insaner]

Interesting way to do the vote the first day.

Hmmm... Future voting claws gives me pause. Probably nothing but gives me pause none the less.

People voting for themselves will be the norm for the most part at least to start the game.

I like Psycho's reasoning for voting for him.

I am going to wait a bit before voting. We need to make sure we give town the shot and hope they can hit scum this early in the game.

Do you think it's unusual for Future to do kind acts to Claws?

CWE is not a bad choice. I like the reasoning

Why?

[Insaner]

Claws/Future have a bit of a history from what I recall. Future voting for his rival right off the bat is bold.



Well he didn’t vote bold to start with which Mazer let pass lol. Though it is early to tell, he has been a stinky traitorous scum who has backstabbed his partner in the back before and last Rajah game he was let slip by twice and still turned to be the traitor.



Hmm Psycho is tricky but the blatant gimmicky self-awareness could be town.

Interested in @CWE thoughts when he gets around to it.

Badger seemed like the towniest person so far so

vote Badger

[Insaner]

It's only proper considering the game we are in anyway.

[Insaner]

I think ours is probably one of if not the hardest languages to learn for anyone going abroad (ie coming here) in the world because there’s so many variables.

Nah, your language is easy

[Jarrod1983]

Vote Jarrod1983

[MTR]

Mostly because we know CWE and how he plays which is why we are saying he is not a bad choice. Matter of us being more familiar with him and how he plays and like it was said we can probably learn some stuff by seeing what he does with the gun.

And Future and claws have a thing. Well mostly claws always tries to take out the house of MTR when he is scum or 3p. Him and future have gone back and forth killing each other I believe at this point. So yeah future voting for claws is unusual but maybe not sus or anything but not expected. I would be more sus if claws voted for Future.

I wasn't thinking about having a player not really familiar with everyone. I think you are familiar with some of us but not all the backstories which is what some of us are using in some of our reasoning.

[MTR]

Sorry that was in response to Insaner. Should have used quotes and stuff

[Insaner]

Mostly because we know CWE and how he plays which is why we are saying he is not a bad choice. Matter of us being more familiar with him and how he plays and like it was said we can probably learn some stuff by seeing what he does with the gun.

And Future and claws have a thing. Well mostly claws always tries to take out the house of MTR when he is scum or 3p. Him and future have gone back and forth killing each other I believe at this point. So yeah future voting for claws is unusual but maybe not sus or anything but not expected. I would be more sus if claws voted for Future.

I wasn't thinking about having a player not really familiar with everyone. I think you are familiar with some of us but not all the backstories which is what some of us are using in some of our reasoning.

Thank you, that makes sense. Personally, I am taking the issue of who to assign the day vig to as being equivalent to "who do you think is the towniest person" but I do understand the meta discussion of "who would be a good person to give a vig to in general". I don't really see it as being that informative about the person making a shot, given how this is a day action and should ideally be accountable to the will of the majority. It's not like a wolf is suddenly gonna shoot a top town and reveal themselves.

And interesting observation about Future and Claws.

From what I'm gathering, do you and Future have a father/son relationship or am I misunderstanding? What other people are in the House of MTR?

I am familiar with Psycho and the MMO-C side of this community and I only played 1 game with most of everyone else.

[Insaner]

Vote: Clawsout

I just wanna see what he does with it

Any reason you voted Claws in particular?

[Randolph]

Since this is the beginning of a game that is named after the filthiest animal in the northern hemisphere, I am reminded to mention the three rules of Badger-style Mafia play here:



Stick to this disgusting strategy and you will climb over the dead bodies of your teammates to the top of the mountain!

[Randolph]

Any reason you voted Claws in particular?

Because if you give a monkey a loaded gun, interesting things will happen.

[Insaner]

1x vig kill ability that must be used before the conclusion of day 3.

Well I guess not a day kill but still a publicly known action

Actually, would this type of kill normally be shown in the write-up in a game like this?

[Graeham]

Vote: Psycho

[LemonDemonGirl]

Vote Psycho

[Morrison]

Well I guess not a day kill but still a publicly known action

Actually, would this type of kill normally be shown in the write-up in a game like this?

i was curious of this myself, actually. i imagine it will be in the write up if done at night, and if done during the day we'll get some announcement. if done at night, i was wondering if it would show as cwe(or whoever gets the perk) as performing the kill or if it would be left to assumption.

[Randolph]

We've seen kills in the middle of a day phase. The game temporarily stops and the announcement is made that someone has been killed and then we continue on. Which is why we shouldn't give Badger this kill, because then he'll kill me and you'll all be deprived of my wonderful presence.

[FutureHold]

Thank you, that makes sense. Personally, I am taking the issue of who to assign the day vig to as being equivalent to "who do you think is the towniest person" but I do understand the meta discussion of "who would be a good person to give a vig to in general". I don't really see it as being that informative about the person making a shot, given how this is a day action and should ideally be accountable to the will of the majority. It's not like a wolf is suddenly gonna shoot a top town and reveal themselves.

And interesting observation about Future and Claws.

From what I'm gathering, do you and Future have a father/son relationship or am I misunderstanding? What other people are in the House of MTR?

I am familiar with Psycho and the MMO-C side of this community and I only played 1 game with most of everyone else.

MTR is my father, we've gone back and forth because he's scum

[MTR]

Thank you, that makes sense. Personally, I am taking the issue of who to assign the day vig to as being equivalent to "who do you think is the towniest person" but I do understand the meta discussion of "who would be a good person to give a vig to in general". I don't really see it as being that informative about the person making a shot, given how this is a day action and should ideally be accountable to the will of the majority. It's not like a wolf is suddenly gonna shoot a top town and reveal themselves.

And interesting observation about Future and Claws.

From what I'm gathering, do you and Future have a father/son relationship or am I misunderstanding? What other people are in the House of MTR?

I am familiar with Psycho and the MMO-C side of this community and I only played 1 game with most of everyone else.

Future is my son IRL. Tildey is my wife IRL. Diva who is not playing is my oldest child in IRL and Kareemah is a friend of Diva's who is currently living with us who is not playing this game. lletuce who is not playing is a friend of Diva's since like 3rd grade and a bonus child of mine. So we have MTR, Tildey, Futurehold, DivaSmurf, Kareemah, and lletuce that are the house of MTR and you can thank Mazer for that name.

Yeah I think I remember you playing one game with us over at FOS.

So yeah I see where you are coming from with who should get the kill. I think that is a solid way to go. But I think some of us are going to think other things as well just because of us knowing each other and typically knowing how each other play. I think we need to make sure we get the kill to a town and good chance we do. However not out of the realm of possibility for us to hit scum with this kill so we need to be prepared to see if we can gather info out of this especially since this is day one and there is no info so far beyond our reads as we post. I do agree that if we hit scum that they are not going to take out a top town and give themselves away.

So to me there is just a lot going on and why I am not rushing to vote. I want people to talk and what not and try to get reads. Normally I just shit post day one because we have no info and we know we will get info during the night phase so basically hardly anyone is too serious on day one but since this is different I am being more serious. I kind of hate that I won't be around a chunk of tomorrow. Future and I are going to my niece's graduation and it is out of town. But we will be around on either side of it or at least should be.

[Blind Ninja]

I dont want the gun... but most of you would know my short list of who would get shot

[Insaner]

Future is my son IRL. Tildey is my wife IRL. Diva who is not playing is my oldest child in IRL and Kareemah is a friend of Diva's who is currently living with us who is not playing this game. lletuce who is not playing is a friend of Diva's since like 3rd grade and a bonus child of mine. So we have MTR, Tildey, Futurehold, DivaSmurf, Kareemah, and lletuce that are the house of MTR and you can thank Mazer for that name.

OMG this is great haha

[Clawsout]

badger

Best train

[Clawsout]

Apparently i forgot how to type

vote Badger

[Psycho666Soldier]

Statistically true but also why


Why is CWE a fine candidate? Why make a post saying CWE is a fine candidate before he even posts?

These posts feel like posting for the sake of posting + maybe trying to muddy the waters with false connections for when Psycho flips

You're trying to hard to sus me, bubby. Just embrace the wave and give me a gun

I just think early on town is more likely to be brazen and self vote as a general rule. Don't think it's a lock thing and actually think Caito is the most likely to do it as either alignment, but it's fine for a start

With CWE, his shot could be telling and if he's town, he has a high likelihood to shoot right than not. I'm happy to rescind that if CWE starts posting and I think he's scum, but without many posts, he's a great candidate on paper

[Psycho666Soldier]

Well I guess not a day kill but still a publicly known action

Actually, would this type of kill normally be shown in the write-up in a game like this?

Odds are we'll see it publicly in some form, and we'll probably see it as the player(with no implied alignment) shooting the target

[Psycho666Soldier]

Wolves are probably hesitant to give me a gun. So give me the gun and you'll get a townread from me.

[Insaner]

You're trying to hard to sus me, bubby. Just embrace the wave and give me a gun

I just think early on town is more likely to be brazen and self vote as a general rule. Don't think it's a lock thing and actually think Caito is the most likely to do it as either alignment, but it's fine for a start

With CWE, his shot could be telling and if he's town, he has a high likelihood to shoot right than not. I'm happy to rescind that if CWE starts posting and I think he's scum, but without many posts, he's a great candidate on paper

Making assumptions is a part of any investigation. Whether you are guilty or innocent, I'm sure that the truth will reveal itself eventually.

At the moment, I feel uneasy about giving you the gun. If anything I might start a campaign against it, though it'd also be interesting to see who voted for whom later in the game once we start getting more information about the people involved...

There are a couple of people I'd vote ahead of you anyhow

[Tommi_Li]

Love people using 'coronate' as a verb. Pretty sure I've done it myself. It doesn't exist as a word (yet).

Onto the game topic, voting for one person to have a x1 vig kill, there's only one choice when you're half a bottle of wine deep:

vote: LemonDemonGirl

Lol! Only half! Getting anti-town vibes here, maybe I need the other half of the bottle.

[CWE]

I don't get off work for 5 hours or so, but if someone promises me they'll shoot Caito...you very well might earn my vote.

[Graeham]

I'm happy to avoid the pressure that comes with such a burden.

[Graeham]

I'll keep my vote where it is for now and probably right through the day phase. I think backing someone who is active and vocal is the way to go, rather than someone who will just fire at random without much rhyme or reason.

[Randolph]

vote insaner

let the new guy kill someone with no prior issues. nice and clean.

[Insaner]

vote insaner

let the new guy kill someone with no prior issues. nice and clean.

This is the way

[Tommi_Li]

vote insaner

let the new guy kill someone with no prior issues. nice and clean.

I like this idea. No preconceived opinion. Which will open up suggestions from other players. Could be interesting.


Vote: insaner

[Badger]

We've seen kills in the middle of a day phase. The game temporarily stops and the announcement is made that someone has been killed and then we continue on. Which is why we shouldn't give Badger this kill, because then he'll kill me and you'll all be deprived of my wonderful presence.

Only perhaps if I sus ya. Fwiw I like you so far, BN, Morrison and Insaner have town vibes so far. MTR’s comprehensive post seems ok.

I don’t mind a couple of the other votes so far but if given to me I won’t take it lightly. Want to get a feel first.

[CWE]

[CWE]

Should I do the most dangerous thing we can do with a gun?

[Badger]

Give it to your sober self?

[CWE]

Give it to your sober self?

I mean....yeah.

That was the follow up if anyone asked what.

Vote SOBER CWE

[Badger]

Still would probably be a better shot than virm.

[CWE]

[Tildey]

MTR’s comprehensive post seems ok.

I agree that the content of his posts seem fine. The way he’s referred to an “us” a few times bugs me a little, though. Everybody else has been speaking in the singular when it comes to their thoughts & ideas. Which makes sense to me - especially this early when everyone is trying to get a feel for who may or may not be town. It make me wonder if the word usage is a subconscious indication that he’s on a scum team? It may be nothing. But it stood out to me when I was catching up on posts.

[Badger]

I agree that the content of his posts seem fine. The way he’s referred to an “us” a few times bugs me a little, though. Everybody else has been speaking in the singular when it comes to their thoughts & ideas. Which makes sense to me - especially this early when everyone is trying to get a feel for who may or may not be town. It make me wonder if the word usage is a subconscious indication that he’s on a scum team? It may be nothing. But it stood out to me when I was catching up on posts.

That’s a good pick-up and certainly an intriguing theory. I have seen others refer to “us” meaning “town” in general in games though.

[CWE]

7 and a half hours. FINALLY. TEQUILA.

[Psycho666Soldier]

We could always tie wagons and hand out two vig's

[Psycho666Soldier]

Imagine town!CWE and town!Psycho starting with a gun

That sounds exciting to me

[Insaner]

I agree that the content of his posts seem fine. The way he’s referred to an “us” a few times bugs me a little, though. Everybody else has been speaking in the singular when it comes to their thoughts & ideas. Which makes sense to me - especially this early when everyone is trying to get a feel for who may or may not be town. It make me wonder if the word usage is a subconscious indication that he’s on a scum team? It may be nothing. But it stood out to me when I was catching up on posts.

I think it's pretty clear that MTR was only using "we" when explaining to me, a new face in this community, how some of the folks around here like to approach things

I don't think I've ever seen someone genuinely slip like this so it seems a rather wacky thought to me

[Clawsout]

Imagine town!CWE and town!Psycho starting with a gun

That sounds exciting to me

I disagree it sounds pretty predictable and boring

[CWE]

I think it's pretty clear that MTR was only using "we" when explaining to me, a new face in this community, how some of the folks around here like to approach things

I don't think I've ever seen someone genuinely slip like this so it seems a rather wacky thought to me

We've had a player who asked his scum buddy to talk to him in scum chat. It was funny.

[Insaner]

If y'all don't give me the vig I will literally cry

[Insaner]

We've had a player who asked his scum buddy to talk to him in scum chat. It was funny.

I remember one time where I mixed up the threads and accidentally called my mason partner by name in the main thread , in a game with anticlaim kills and very tight numbers balance-wise. It was extremely unfortunate to say the least.

[CWE]

If y'all don't give me the vig I will literally cry

I've said what you need to do for me to vote for you.

[Clawsout]

Id shoot caito idc

[Clawsout]

He likely be not around anyways

[CWE]

Unvote
Vote Clawsout

Do we need to bold @Mazer?

[Clawsout]

Probably

[CWE]

VOTE CLAWSOUT

[LemonDemonGirl]

Votes don't count unless they're bold now?
I see mmo champion's rules have rubbed off on here lol

[Insaner]

I've said what you need to do for me to vote for you.

You ask me to condemn a man before even hearing what he has to say for himself?

Is this FROTHING DEGENERATE really who you want to be in charge?

If you elect ME as your representative vigilante, I will ensure that every man or woman will get a fair trial before sentencing them to be murdered in the most horrible way imaginable!

VOTE FOR JUSTICE

VOTE FOR INSANER

[Mazer]

Unvote
Vote Clawsout

Do we need to bold @Mazer?

Please

[LemonDemonGirl]

You ask me to condemn a man before even hearing what he has to say for himself?

Is this FROTHING DEGENERATE really who you want to be in charge?

If you elect ME as your representative vigilante, I will ensure that every man or woman will get a fair trial before sentencing them to be murdered in the most horrible way imaginable!

VOTE FOR JUSTICE

VOTE FOR INSANER

You're acting rather sus today, you know

[CWE]

You ask me to condemn a man before even hearing what he has to say for himself?

Is this FROTHING DEGENERATE really who you want to be in charge?

If you elect ME as your representative vigilante, I will ensure that every man or woman will get a fair trial before sentencing them to be murdered in the most horrible way imaginable!

VOTE FOR JUSTICE

VOTE FOR INSANER

There are 2 kinds of Caito.

Living scum. And dead town.

[Mazer]

And I will clarify the kill could be used at day or night.

[Clawsout]

Secretly you get viged not get a vig day or night surpise

[Caito]

I’m very tempted to just shoot the new guy.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I disagree it sounds pretty predictable and boring

Well that's just rude

[Psycho666Soldier]

Also not predictable because no one ever gives me guns or boons because, again, no one trusts me

[Psycho666Soldier]

On that note, Insaner also seems like a fine candidate and I still support tying the wagons to give out two guns regardless of whether I get it or not

[Insaner]

I’m very tempted to just shoot the new guy.

@CWE I PROMISE TO SHOOT CAITO IF YOU VOTE FOR ME

[Insaner]

On that note, Insaner also seems like a fine candidate and I still support tying the wagons to give out two guns regardless of whether I get it or not

Already buttering me up in case I happen to win the vote I see

[Clawsout]

Also not predictable because no one ever gives me guns or boons because, again, no one trusts me

#Metoo

[Peter Griffin]

I like this idea. No preconceived opinion. Which will open up suggestions from other players. Could be interesting.


Vote: insaner

I can get behind this

Unvote

VOTE INSANER

[Mazer]

Double lynch rules do not apply to the day 1 gun/vigkill. Different thing for ties here.

[Clawsout]

Can we give the mod the gun to be towns guide

[Graeham]

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[Blind Ninja]

You're acting rather sus today, you know

what do you find sus about this?

[Blind Ninja]

Also not predictable because no one ever gives me guns or boons because, again, no one trusts me

I dont trust you, but find you to be an interesting option.

I feel cwe/caito would be boring and likely just shoot the other.

Claws would be interesting, but I dont know where that chaotic shot would land.

Insaner is an option for people, since he hasnt played with a decent number of us here.


In any event, money where mouth is...
Vote: Psycho

for now.

[Blind Ninja]

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Well... that was impressive Grae... Any other thoughts?

[Blind Ninja]

Can we give the mod the gun to be towns guide

I just hope the mod kills and/or replaces inactive folks...

[Clawsout]

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[Clawsout]

I just hope the mod kills and/or replaces inactive folks...

Likely kill he said strongly bolded

[Badger]

I would vote for Insaner myself if I wasn’t such an awesome option.