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    The first time Tildey and I play where one is scum and the other is town is going to be very interesting.

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    PRIZES

    There was the red, green and blue shell PRIZES which were already given out. They work the same way as the shells in Caito's role. Mazer had the prize-winning red shell which died with him. Randolph won the other blue one and Caito used his own blue shell as per his role.

    The ghost item was actually a vanilla-iser. I went old school Mario Kart where you can steal the item so here you could steal someone's powers to make them vanilla. Here's the rest from my notes:

    BANANA SKIN - TAKES AWAY SOMEONE'S VOTE FOR A DAY PHASE
    MUSHROOM - IMMUNE FOR A WHOLE DAY/NIGHT PHASE (THE SPEED OF THE MUHSROOM GETS YOU TO THE END OF THE COURSE DUE TO ITS SPEED SO YOU ARE IMMUNE.
    LIGHTNING BOLT- BLOCKS ANY VOTES AGAINST YOU.
    SQUID INK – SILENCES SOMEONE
    COINS – ADD +1 TO YOUR OWN VOTE
    POW BLOCK – TAKES ONE VOTE AWAY FROM YOU IN FINAL TOTAL, WOULD SAVE FROM A HAMMER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blind Ninja View Post
    Wish more people had this mentality
    That reminds me….Sorry about the thunderdome. It was the double vote. I knew I was dying no matter what but was hoping if I slowed it down a little that maybe, just maybe, what was left of my team would pop up and have the tiniest of a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidKitten View Post
    Wait. Caito had a 3x gun and didn't shoot people?

    What even is this world?


    I wasn't around for the beginning of the game, so that is my fault.


    HOWEVER..... I did kill Tildey, and tried to shoot Bluegunn as well,. but Badger wouldn't let me use the other red shell.

    green shell I wasn't ready to use because it was a 50/50 shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidKitten View Post
    Yay. Congrats my fellow townies.
    @FutureHold I AM SO SORRY FOR NOT SAVING YOU AND SWAPPING TO MAZER AT THE LAST MINUTE. FORGIVE ME.

    To the scum, you got screwed my night actions. Honestly, there were some suspect things I picked up on with Tildey early on and to a lesser extent Listo, but i don't think you guys in thread were an issue.

    This was just a game that hurt with night actions.
    @Mazer You are a beautiful bastard.
    @Badger Thank you for running this game. This theme was great and needs to be a recurring one for sure.
    Just happy that you and Foxxi were there to spike it. Well-executed by both of you.

    That's why I said the thing that I said about you being suss if you didn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    I wasn't around for the beginning of the game, so that is my fault.


    HOWEVER..... I did kill Tildey, and tried to shoot Bluegunn as well,. but Badger wouldn't let me use the other red shell.

    green shell I wasn't ready to use because it was a 50/50 shot.
    Well, you will certainly enjoy "Caito Saves Christmas"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    I wasn't around for the beginning of the game, so that is my fault.


    HOWEVER..... I did kill Tildey, and tried to shoot Bluegunn as well,. but Badger wouldn't let me use the other red shell.

    green shell I wasn't ready to use because it was a 50/50 shot.
    Yeah I had meant to specify one shell per phase in Caito’s rolecard. Didn’t occur to me that someone could stack kills during one phase.

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    2nd game surviving in a row! Kneel down before the almighty Randolph!


    Last edited by Randolph; December 6th, 2022 at 3:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Just happy that you and Foxxi were there to spike it. Well-executed by both of you.

    That's why I said the thing that I said about you being suss if you didn't have it.
    Even your target choices too.

    You went after unlikely to be killed players, but also ones people have trouble reading. You being the hider is what narrowed down the list enough. I just took it and ran with it.

    Well done.

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    Congrats to val, vk, kdest, divasmurf, jitters, rando, caito, 3pups, and LDG for surviving to end.

    Good first game Tildey. Liked your instincts for play, and hope you enjoyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    I wasn't around for the beginning of the game, so that is my fault.


    HOWEVER..... I did kill Tildey, and tried to shoot Bluegunn as well,. but Badger wouldn't let me use the other red shell.

    green shell I wasn't ready to use because it was a 50/50 shot.
    Good kill! It was actually really clutch because the numbers, assuming a Sonic recruit would have been like 6/2 with Kangus and Bluegunn left. That only allowed one misyeet of Jitters. It was likely a town win, but all the extra NA phases would have hurt especially if the talkative people were killed allowing potential tinfoil to spread.

    And now seeing that Sonic would have had a kill? That could have been deterministic.

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    Diva gets a win. Once they realize they will be happy. And probably rub it in.

    I mean I would never do that....

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    This was the first time I have done a hider role in one of my games. Tbh probably made it a bit powerful essentially revealing scum in the write-up upon death. Next time I do the role, might just say the scum character they hid behind instead. Possibly wasn’t clear enough in the PM to Mazer as well that this variant was only immune to kills.

    I’ll tweak it if I use a hider again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Diva gets a win. Once they realize they will be happy. And probably rub it in.

    I mean I would never do that....
    I'm just happy he protected me. I like getting protects even when it didn't actually stop anything (assumingly).

    It makes me feel useful.

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    Good job Badger. Fun game. Great theme

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    It was the first time I did a hider role. Tbh probably made it a bit powerful essentially revealing scum in the write-up upon death. Next time I do the role, might just say the scum character they hid behind instead. Possibly wasn’t clear enough as well that this variant was only immune to kills. I’ll tweak it if I use a hider again.
    This was my argument with Mazer. The hider, if good, on death will clear anyone they didn't die to and out the person they did die to.

    If it were just characters shown in writeup, the hider would at least get the info themselves and can choose to reveal it. That might be the best with weak hiders tbh.

    Its such a fun role especially having to worry about hiding behind scum, but writeups hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidKitten View Post
    This was my argument with Mazer. The hider, if good, on death will clear anyone they didn't die to and out the person they did die to.

    If it were just characters shown in writeup, the hider would at least get the info themselves and can choose to reveal it. That might be the best with weak hiders tbh.

    Its such a fun role especially having to worry about hiding behind scum, but writeups hurt.
    That could be a good idea for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidKitten View Post
    This was my argument with Mazer. The hider, if good, on death will clear anyone they didn't die to and out the person they did die to.

    If it were just characters shown in writeup, the hider would at least get the info themselves and can choose to reveal it. That might be the best with weak hiders tbh.

    Its such a fun role especially having to worry about hiding behind scum, but writeups hurt.
    I still do think the death mitigates it some, as compared to some of the other roles.

    But I do often like the only killed if hiding behind someone doing the kill variant. but then I also give the hider a secondary ability or two to make it interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    That reminds me….Sorry about the thunderdome. It was the double vote. I knew I was dying no matter what but was hoping if I slowed it down a little that maybe, just maybe, what was left of my team would pop up and have the tiniest of a chance.
    No need to apologize for doing what you thought was right... was ok with being the target, since i wasnt fully invested in the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I still do think the death mitigates it some, as compared to some of the other roles.

    But I do often like the only killed if hiding behind someone doing the kill variant. but then I also give the hider a secondary ability or two to make it interesting.
    I like the standard weak hider. But your death mitigated nothing because you cleared 2 people prior to that. If you died on Night 1, then yes it was mitigated some, but it also still revealed it publically.

    Without writeups, a weak hider has to hint at who they are targeting so its known, but not obvious enough as to have that person be killed. That stems the flow.

    With you, you died on the third hide, which cleared the two priro to you. Town almost always wants to go 1 for 1 with scum as there are less of them and more of town.

    Its a good role. I just would do some tweaks. I still prefer writeups over no writeups still. I just wish I could figure out a way to allow claiming wild bullshit too. (since if you don't die its obviously a lie)

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    This may have been my favorite theme thus far. Fkn love Mario Kart. Even tho I got the role I am the worst at, clearly

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    Also had to make a call when Mazer hid behind LDG as she was non-town and hadn’t figured on that. I then went with safety as she was a not a threat to town until recruited. If he had behind Claws, a serial killer still a threat to town then he would’ve died in that instance. Though unfortunately that may have buggered scum trying to find Sonic.

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    We shall see if CWE vs Caito surpasses this feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Also had to make a call when Mazer hid behind LDG as she was non-town and hadn’t figured on that. I then went with safety as she was a not a threat to town until recruited. If he had behind Claws, a serial killer still a threat to town then he would’ve died in that instance. Though unfortunately that may have buggered scum trying to find Sonic.
    I think I'd have let Mazer live if he hid behind Claws. It actually helps stem that flow of info too. Claws is now considered not scum, but he is still an evil bastard.

    Ded if hide behind red, otherwise okay.

    Especially, since that would have outed Claws and he doesn't have a team to fall back on.

    Just so you know, I have no complaints with how the game was run. I just like talking mechanics so please don't take this as me saying anything bad about the setup haha.

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    The real question I have.

    What if he hid behind the godfather since Godfather's typically return town.

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    Also if the Ghost Valley course went onto night, then night chat would’ve been allowed.

    The Vanilla Lake course would’ve actually been vanilla if we got there would’ve made everyone vanilla for a whole day/night phase. No prize on offer nor could be used. The question mark box would’ve been “frozen over” would’ve been in its intro. Just lynching only. Night phase was going to be a bastard troll mod job where I revealed nothing worked because everyone was vanilla, hence the course name. You were all saved from that!

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    Badger said Mazer would have lived had he hid behind me but I would have lost my Godfather status. It was asked in dead chat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blind Ninja View Post
    No need to apologize for doing what you thought was right... was ok with being the target, since i wasnt fully invested in the game
    Maybe you can answer this for me. I can read tier lists, but I like data.

    How have preservation evokers done in dungeons? I legit feel like I'll suck at it because they have no "oh shit" quick heals outside of their ridiculously OP long CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidKitten View Post
    The real question I have.

    What if he hid behind the godfather since Godfather's typically return town.
    Would’ve worked the same way as cop. He sees them as town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Badger said Mazer would have lived had he hid behind me but I would have lost my Godfather status. It was asked in dead chat
    I think you would’ve only lost GF status if you were the factional killer. Let me check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidKitten View Post
    We shall see if CWE vs Caito surpasses this feeling.
    it's more than a feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    it's more than a feeling.
    It's been such a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    I think we need to avenge his death.

    @claws did you kill my son.


    MTR, did you post this knowing from the write-up that Claws had been seen? I had been going back-and-forth over whether/how to reveal the info I had, but this was relatively early on my long-weekend, and I knew it would be important to town. In my mind, I had figured you were town based on this post, so it surprised me when you flipped red after gettting killed trying your night action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidKitten View Post
    I like the standard weak hider. But your death mitigated nothing because you cleared 2 people prior to that. If you died on Night 1, then yes it was mitigated some, but it also still revealed it publically.

    Without writeups, a weak hider has to hint at who they are targeting so its known, but not obvious enough as to have that person be killed. That stems the flow.

    With you, you died on the third hide, which cleared the two priro to you. Town almost always wants to go 1 for 1 with scum as there are less of them and more of town.

    Its a good role. I just would do some tweaks. I still prefer writeups over no writeups still. I just wish I could figure out a way to allow claiming wild bullshit too. (since if you don't die its obviously a lie)
    I agree that it's a good role. I guess I think there's potentially less OP. And if we, as a gamerunner community, occasionally vary it up some it stops it from being completely easy in assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    MTR, did you post this knowing from the write-up that Claws had been seen? I had been going back-and-forth over whether/how to reveal the info I had, but this was relatively early on my long-weekend, and I knew it would be important to town. In my mind, I had figured you were town based on this post, so it surprised me when you flipped red after gettting killed trying your night action.
    Yeah I knew it had been seen and I honestly didn't know if claws did it or not. I was just having fun since he had talked about taking us all out. It was really funny to me when it came out that he had done it. And we thought we might get people split on the vote for him and listo but then claws went and got modkilled and then you all killed listo.

    Yeah I think I was sliding by people so bad luck on me when I took the turn on the kill and Foxxi was a trap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Badger said Mazer would have lived had he hid behind me but I would have lost my Godfather status. It was asked in dead chat
    Just scanning the dead chat and though there was talk about that, I don’t believe I confirmed it but yeah he would’ve seen you as town. Sorry if there was any confusion.

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    Maybe I adding things in my brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Maybe I adding things in my brain.
    Yeah it was just general hider talk over how the death works as far as I can see. Don’t think the GF question specifically came up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    You especially would if your kid was doing what Future was. He really was going around the house accusing everyone of being Sus as often as humanly possible.
    See, this to me actually made me read him the opposite. When you said that I was like "damn. There's a town kid surrounded by his family who may or may not all be out to murder him. Poor paranoid fellow." XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Yeah I knew it had been seen and I honestly didn't know if claws did it or not. I was just having fun since he had talked about taking us all out. It was really funny to me when it came out that he had done it. And we thought we might get people split on the vote for him and listo but then claws went and got modkilled and then you all killed listo.

    Yeah I think I was sliding by people so bad luck on me when I took the turn on the kill and Foxxi was a trap.
    I was actually sus of you the moment you postulated that all the players in the mega drive were town. It just felt off to me. And the comment about red having a bad start pinged me too... didn't feel particularly *happy* -- but when I thought Listo was yellow and remembered that comment I went back to and and decided it could be a small chip in your favor instead of against you - since if listo were not-aligned I thought you may have worded that differently.

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    Thanks for the game!

    I feel genuinely sorry for scum - I guess this was one of those games where circumstances piled against them through no fault of their own for the most part.

    I fell a bit too hard into my MMO-C style approach to these games and got mod killed as a result but I hope it provided some amusement at least!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxxiMcLeod View Post
    See, this to me actually made me read him the opposite. When you said that I was like "damn. There's a town kid surrounded by his family who may or may not all be out to murder him. Poor paranoid fellow." XD
    Oh he would have done the exact same thing had he drawn Scum and the rest of us were town. LOL

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    My fourth ever game Iíve run and not one scum victory yet. Three town and Morrisonís jester win in the Raw game. Poisoned chalice lol. Especially with self-confessed scum voodoo CWE.

    If only Caito were around more at the beginning, I was wondering wondering if he was gonna vig him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxxiMcLeod View Post
    I was actually sus of you the moment you postulated that all the players in the mega drive were town. It just felt off to me. And the comment about red having a bad start pinged me too... didn't feel particularly *happy* -- but when I thought Listo was yellow and remembered that comment I went back to and and decided it could be a small chip in your favor instead of against you - since if listo were not-aligned I thought you may have worded that differently.
    I’ve not had a chance to watch a Game where he is town but I have noticed when he is scum that this is a tell of his. He’ll say something corny about red team or scum. He says I’m wrong, but we’ll see.

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    I am ashamed I didn't get that hint immediately grae. So so so ashamed. I went of in tinfoil land thinking you were trying to trying to trick me into saying a rare word and that I'd die to a one of those spoken things XD

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    Thanks for hosting the game, Badger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxxiMcLeod View Post
    I am ashamed I didn't get that hint immediately grae. So so so ashamed. I went of in tinfoil land thinking you were trying to trying to trick me into saying a rare word and that I'd die to a one of those spoken things XD
    It's fine. You can trust me during the next game. Unless I'm scum, in which case don't.

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    And I meant to add, thanks to Badger for putting this together and running it. There's a lot of moving pieces here, with so many players. It's a bit surprising how quickly the entire game went. Lot of bad luck for the threats to town - three non-green were caught in the first 2 nights' actions.

    I continue to learn from everyone. I liked how Mazer skillfully hinted about his role - it was not at all apparent to me at first, but only after he died, but that proved helpful to town in clearing Diva. Mazer seemed to get how to best use his role to help town - once he found a green to hide behind, he could have done that over and over, and would have survived longer. Taking another chance to help the team was helpful.

    And Void and Foxxi's back-and forth early, the sus on both of them was fair. Void in trying out a different style to guage reactions was interesting, and Foxxi ultimately reading that scum's game would have been played different if void was on it.

    Two wins in a row for LDG. Perhaps my favorite post was her saying

    Bold of you to assume I read my role card

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    So it was a 9 way tie in a race? Badger if you do another of these you need to come up with something that declares a winner for the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    So it was a 9 way tie in a race? Badger if you do another of these you need to come up with something that declares a winner for the race.
    They just all happened to cross the line at the same time lol.

    But yes I could tweak the next one to give an overall winner

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    Quote Originally Posted by LemonDemonGirl View Post
    Why are there Sonic characters in this lol
    Did I miss something?
    Lolled at this trolling post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Lolled at this trolling post.
    that is pretty good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    that is pretty good
    Think she was being meta as that’s probably what she may have asked otherwise lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Lolled at this trolling post.
    That is the literally the post that made me think she is Sonic. It was just so on the nose and I know how LDG reacts and reads things .

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidKitten View Post
    That is the literally the post that made me think she is Sonic. It was just so on the nose and I know how LDG reacts and reads things .
    She inadvertently or not pulled a scum Rip.

    “Who’s that? Why are they here?” when he’s the very character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    She inadvertently or not pulled a scum Rip.

    “Who’s that? Why are they here?” when he’s the very character.
    That's actually not an awful play lmao. I'd probably town read that most times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidKitten View Post
    Maybe you can answer this for me. I can read tier lists, but I like data.

    How have preservation evokers done in dungeons? I legit feel like I'll suck at it because they have no "oh shit" quick heals outside of their ridiculously OP long CD.
    Only healers ive had issues with in week1 have been priests, specifically disc... since loads of movement in dungeons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blind Ninja View Post
    Only healers ive had issues with in week1 have been priests, specifically disc... since loads of movement in dungeons
    I can't decide if I want to main my mistweaver or preservation evoker this expac. Both are sitting at the dragonflight zeppelin waiting for me to decide.

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    Red had a tough hand early. Well done town on catching early. Would have spoken earlier more but pretty sure I would have been voted off at first word.

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    HOLY SHIT, I LIVED AGAIN!

    Scum seemed to be sitting on their hands doing nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by LemonDemonGirl View Post
    HOLY SHIT, I LIVED AGAIN!

    Scum seemed to be sitting on their hands doing nothing
    Scum absolutely did things. They just got fucked by night actions. You only won because I realized it was better to try and stop a recruitment.

    We could have killed Kangus, let you get recruited, then kill you and make you lose :P

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