CWE is on the Dresyski Lynch but not Jitters, and he’s defending a role that’s hiding information from us in the write up, not think that ‘maybe’ that looks worse?Originally Posted by Mazer
Our Mystery is on the Dreyski Lynch but not on Jitters and they’re a hidden player that’s trying to be under the radar and is almost unreadable, they look worse?
Yeah, ‘voting history’, bollocks
And it all goes quiet…
Having a quick chat in the scum lounge to come up with plan ‘b’ now are you boys?
Rip, I'm not sure how I missed that you had changed from WhoAmI to voting Jitters. You had voted for the mystery entrant earlier that day.
And as I was going back through the thread, even before roles were assigned, I saw this gem from you -
I still think it was possible that scum had given up on Jitters for inactivity, and there may be scum on that train, for now I will clear you
UNVOTE
Since I am not learning anything from my own role, and don't have help, this is a lot harder than the last game.
Vote WhoAmI
I don't like that the mystery entrant doesn't reveal any reasoning behind his/her votes.
You've convinced me.
3pups (2)-Pabs, mtr
Who (5)-kangus,vegas, rip, badger, 3pups
Rip (3)-cwe, claws, bn,
loaf (1) -listos
Psych (1)-Rando
Pabs (1)-Psych
Rip your smart enough to jump on the jitters train towards the end to make yourself look good
.
But why change if he was gunna push it again today
I just dont understand his argument of look i was on the jitters train so i cant be scum let alone hes continued push on whoami that didnt take off the previous day
Point out where I made that claim?
3pups stated ‘vote history’ or whatever and used the fact I wasn’t in the Jitters train as evidence, I pointed out that I was, as for position on the Lynch trains anyone with half an ounce of sense knows that’s crap, are you suggesting that as town we now can’t vote in any position after 5 as it looks scummy?
Stupid argument
Because one vote on a dead train is a waste, obviously, but I returned as my thoughts haven’t changed, you work down your list, if you can’t get 1, then get 2 and come bsvk
This is absolutely scum Rip play.
The problem is...
This is absolutely town Rip play.
Vote Rip.
I'm at work but will try to pop back in. Not sure about voting WhoAmI and I feel like Rip could be scum.
I’m an enigma wrapped in a mystery, this is why I get mislynched all the time.
Based on…?
You hopped on votes based on group consensus with not much else said.
3pups (2)-Pabs, mtr
Who (5)-kangus,vegas, rip, badger, 3pups
Rip (4)-cwe, claws, bn, jarrod
loaf (1) -listos
Psych (1)-Rando
Pabs (1)-Psych
Rip, you must agree that it's possible that there were scum who voted for Jitters. I think what made me uneasy about you was the earlier discussion that scum may have decided that Jitters hadn't been around, and once they realized no other train was taking off, they could potentially protect themselves.
To Claws' point that you're smart enough to pile on to what you see as using a lost team mate in order to get some value out of it, in that it also implies that suspicion is warranted, is fair, but clearly not certain either.
I don’t want to quote the whole thing but the reason I mentioned Jarrod earlier and now Psycho is that Jarrods third vote is the one that confirmed the direction it would go so that’s one reason for my suspicion on him. Psycho being second also is someone who swung things that way but his swing has less to do with the position of his vote (being second) and more to do with the pull he generally had around here.
Anyways I’m going back to my feel late last night and now that he’s posted
Vote 3pups
Wait. I had the 3pups vote before? Then I guess I’m just confirming it.
If not 3puppies then our mystery friend is worth it. Not getting enough from them and without any back history to work off of who knows whether that’s town or scum play.
Logically speaking of course there was scum on the Lynch, there’s scum on all lynches I just think it’s ridiculous to put greater merit on individual positions within a Lynch as being ‘more scummy’.
And as for hoping over based on group movements then surely that’s logical? There are two or three people you are leaning towards, one is gaining traction over the others it makes sense to add to it, then you return to the other option at a later date, I guarantee I’ll not be the only person to do it through the course of the game
Check the time stamp as well, 11:54pm, I’m not always that loquacious when I’m half asleep,
You don't sound sold on your own vote.
Vote: WhoamI
Rip is here. Rips is participating. And WhoamI?
Like Badger I don't think Rip gets a free pass by any means. I still don't like the 3pups votes but with so little time left I don't see a train building on either of them.
3pups (2)-Pabs, mtr
Who (6)-kangus,vegas, rip, badger, 3pups, tommi
Rip (4)-cwe, claws, bn, jarrod
loaf (1) -listos
Psych (1)-Rando
Pabs (1)-Psych
If it's between WAI and Rip, I'm going Rip. But I still prefer Pablo and hate that his wagon went nowhere
This voting for me is unfortunate. A shame it’ll be if I die, when y’all see green at the end.
I have little choice.
Vote 3doggos
3pups (3)-Pabs, mtr, who
Who (6)-kangus,vegas, rip, badger, 3pups, tommi
Rip (4)-cwe, claws, bn, jarrod
loaf (1) -listos
Psych (1)-Rando
Pabs (1)-Psych
curious you go for 3pups instead of putting rip to a vote behind you...
Alas, a miscount on my end. However, of my innocence cannot be understood, it matters very little
Questionable math skills is unmistakably a scum trait.
Still stuck at work, so
UNVOTE
Vote Rip
We shall see, won’t we?
3pups (3)-Pabs, mtr, who
Who (6)-kangus,vegas, rip, badger, 3pups, tommi
Rip (5)-cwe, claws, bn, jarrod, psych
loaf (1) -listos
Psych (1)-Rando
time-Write-up incoming
The mystery was overwhelming as the group surrounded the target.
"I knew I should have never tried to love again. I try to help, but "m only ever surrounded by people who delight in hurting me"
Sadly though, she was about to be put back on break.
WhoAmI has been cancelled.
He was Rachel Green-Town Doc
It is now Night 4. Night Moves
The Cast:
1. CWE
2. MTR
3. Kdestiny
4. morrison
5. 3puppies
6. Jarrod1983
7. Rip
8. Randolph
9. Listo95
10. BlindNinja
11.Clawsout
12. Kangus
13. Pablo
14. Badger
15. Loaf
16. Tommi-Li
17. Psycho666Soldier
18. Vegas82
19. Peter Griffin
Cancelled:
Mikey Jones-Cheetara-Town ON Tracker
Jitters-Councilman Jamm-Scum Ringbearer
Caito-Kenny-Town Cannon Fodder
Dreyski-Wayne Town Cop
WhoAmI-Rachel-Town Doc
im going to forgo a vote given the phase is about to end and i don't wanna deal with that being hung over my head. there was eventually a consolidation, but this day phase has been odd. instead of finding more focus towards someone, my suss only grows.
whoami showing up to address the train on him right at the end of the phase and then 'mistakeningly' voting for the third place train instead of the second is odd. im fine with this lynch going through.
rip is an aggressive player. he went this hard at badger on the captain n game. he was town that game, and so was badger. he is indiscriminate. his theory on the focus group is reasonable to me. the role might not be designed specifically to antagonize town, but that doesn't mean they aren't a detriment to the town cause. hiding actions annoys everybody, but scum at least have a team of players they are in sync with and will know if their actions worked or did not, even if they are hidden. this is an additional advantage scum has over town.
3pups coming in at the bottom of the ninth, running reverse to make the catch, and slams violently into the wall that is rip. really not a good look missing such obviously available info.
i am a major advocate for sussing flailing, emotion and seemingly working yourself into a shoot. with that said, blind ninja getting suckered in by rip, throwing a vote on him and then not being seen since has moved him up my list.
PG has improved his case as town since showing up this last day or so.
i think loaf's inactivity is more genuine than scum tactic, so it is what it is. he'll be hard to read until he gives us more, and if he isn't able to, we'll eventually just have to reach a consensus on what we want to do. but for now, i don't know focusing on him during the day phase is anything but a distraction. now, night actions is a different story.
I'm surprised no one else voted pabs, tbh. the case psycho made for him is sound, and unfortunately i don't think pabs did enough to crack the theory.
badger and claws are my top for town, at the minute. cwe and vegas fill out the top 4. most others i don't have enough confidence to consider them.
sorry, was typing that all up before the phase ended.
Some of you are very quick with your actions, and I appreciate you.
“HOLY CRAP! They killed off the Cop and the Doc! This is the strangest episode of ER yet!”
“We’re not watching ER Peter. You should leave yourself alone”
“I’m sorry Lois. It’s just that ever since Michael Jordan rejected my pitch for him, Tom Brady and Mike Tyson to become the NEW PRO-STARS, I’ve been distraught.”
“Would it make you feel better if I put on my Voltron costume and invited Anne Hathaway and Margot Robie back?”
“Whatever. You know I prefer Green Giant meets The Talking Cat, Lois. You know this. Sometimes, I feel like this marriage is a lie”.
Back to the Show
The Forces of Evil continued to press against the artic circle. The All-Stars knew that the planet needed them. Maybe now more than ever.
Time was growing short.
Ursula saw that All-Stars were grieving from the loss of her sister’s friend Rachel. It was the perfect time to kick them. She quickly found Badger and 3pups. She got them drunk and turned around after luring them in with a promise of seduction, she stole and switched their clothes. 3pups was certainly embarrassed to be in Badger’s kilt, while Badger found 3pup’s velour tracksuit to be uncomfortable as well.
Inspector Gadget decided it was time to shed his nice guy image. GO-GO Gadget Death Ray! The Inspector took aim at Pabs, only to see his ray bounce off Pabs’ chest.
The Quack Pack was excited to earn their “Avert a World Disaster” badge, as it was the 8th hardest to earn. They saw Rip and decided that his trick knees would make him easy to track.
Norm and Cliff, nursing a terrible hangover and reeking of alcohol and embalming fluid, decided to try their luck with Psych. After getting him good and stoned, Norm stole his stamp collection. There was no way Psych could cast any ballot by mail.
Gargamel was back in his laboratory. “Eh, let’s see if you can give coherent thought….when all your words are Song!”. With that, he replaced CWE’s usual scotch with his malicious potion.
Meanwhile Sideshow Bob stalked the streets. He came upon an unsuspecting target. “ah my dear one, perhaps you could spare some assistance for a poor, down on his luck, performer”.
Clawsout turned around, ready to provide some assistance. Only to be greeted by Bob’s knife.
“LOOK AT YOU! WEAK AND UNCULTURED! THERE IS NO PLACE FOR YOU IN THE PLANET TO COME”
Clawsout has been cancelled.
He was Penny-Town Redirector
The Cast:
1. CWE
2. MTR
3. Kdestiny
4. morrison
5. 3puppies
6. Jarrod1983
7. Rip
8. Randolph
9. Listo95
10. BlindNinja
11. Kangus
12. Pablo
13. Badger
14. Loaf
15. Tommi-Li
16. Psycho666Soldier
17. Vegas82
18. Peter Griffin
Cancelled:
Mikey Jones-Cheetara-Town ON Tracker
Jitters-Councilman Jamm-Scum Ringbearer
Caito-Kenny-Town Cannon Fodder
Dreyski-Wayne Town Cop
WhoAmI-Rachel Green-Town Doc
Clawsout-Penny-Town Redirector
With 18 active players, hammer is at 10.
Begin day 5
Bulletproof Pabs?
Vote Pablo
I'm also curious to see if Quack Pack(bless you, @Mazer) have anything on Rip
Wait, I can't vote, damn it lol
Please for the love of God will you people vote Pablo
Psycho, if what Cliff and Norm did to you was the same as they did to Morrison earlier, are you able to vote?
Vote Pablo.
I hadn't refreshed, so didn't see you acknowledge that.
Vote Pablo
i'm up for it.
vote pablo.
by all means, make your case.
Okay. Well that is something. What's up Pablo?
If you’re that sure
Vote : Pabs
Vote pablo
Pablo (5)-3pups, badger, morri, rip, rando
Well that train certainly took off quickly.
That did take off quick. Psycho seems pretty sure though.
Vote Pablo Diablo.
If the absolute speed of this train isn't enough to stop you guys then I don't know what else to think.
Psycho has had his suspicions of me sure. But that so many people are taking it as him having info should be worrying some of you smarter town. The only "info" is that I was bulletproof. I don't know what else I have to explain myself for.
Scum must be loving this.
Let's not rush this lynch, guys. There's still info to be gleaned.
6 out of 10 already.
If somehow we're wrong, you should be helping to point is in the right direction. Are you still suspicious of 3pups? There's more scum to catch. Who else should we look at?
I mean I don’t have any info but I’m still on 3pups so sure
Vote 3pups
Jarrod is next on my suspicious list.
Having a hard time reading Morri but not sure if that’s just because of his suspicion of me and me knowing he’s wrong about that.
I do think Psycho is town.
A sticking point for me when reading back through the phases is Pablo being the first to vote when Dreyski was mislynched. I’d have thought Pablo would be one of if not the first to No Lynch in that type of situation especially with very little info we have really got throughout the game and that is how he normally acts D1. Just looks atypical and the bulletproof only worries me more.
I might change my mind if anyone has a better read or any other info gleaned from this night phase.
Eg if Quack Pack says anything about Rip.
I mean I've already said everything about why I did that last phase. So there's really no point in me repeating myself to convince people.
Even though I didn't have myself as a lyncher of WhoAmI, he was my second choice after 3pups at the time and I made that clear so there's nothing from the last phase to clear myself either.
I get why if we have no other info people could eventually choose to vote for me, but to rush for it without waiting to see if others have info is sketchy. Psycho slowing it down is further proof he's town.
Anyone else you got an eye on other than 3pups?
^
Morri in my view has come across as analytical town but tbf I have got caught out at least once like in the Pizza game IIRC. When he was jester in my game though, he did understandably come across as half-arsed.
Jarrod I’m 50-50 on. He did show some skepticism on me but could see a bit where he was coming from like with the hider situation.
@CWE how you feeling about the lynch just now? Any tells coming across?
Wrong on me. I was fully planning on pushing for Rip this phase if Psycho hadn't said vote Pablo with such conviction.
Okay now that we know WhoAmI is town, and the only viable alternative to the Jitters lynch during that day, I want either MTR or Loaf gone. If we vote someone else out this phase we need focus our night phase information based actions on those two individuals.
It is weird that Loaf is getting zero focus at this point.
"Vote for Pablo."
I vote for Pablo.
"Let's not be hasty and vote for Pablo."
Unvote
I should listen to my instincts and not listen to Psycho.
If I have counted correctly, I think Mazer has revealed 21 of the 24 players -
[Green] GreenLeslie Knopf
Rachel Green
Cliff Clavin and Norm
Jackie Daytona
Cheetara
Wayne
Danny Phantom
MechaNeck
Roadblock
Kenny
Inspector Gadget
Quack Pack
Penny [/green]
[red] Red
Councilman Jamm
Destro
Gargamel
Soup Nazi
Will Wheaton
Ursula
Sideshow Bob
[/red]
[orange] Orange
Peter Griffin
[/orange]
Have I missed anything?
You are making me think and may change my vote.
I want to hear more about these particular cases. Loaf admittedly a bit unknown about but one thing I have picked up on a bit during the brief time playing with him is he usually pushes the (now dead) Claws. Not a pass on him by any means but he seems to be going through shit and not usually as engaged so a vote on him at this stage I think would be risky.
MTR I believe you did mention earlier and not the first person to say based on a vote switch but the main target now Pablo also opted to give MTR immunity.
The crux here is how do you feel about Pablo compared to those other two?
While Psycho can be tricky, I think he does ultimately want this lynch but at the same time doesn’t want to rush it to see how people react. That does lean a bit towards towny Psycho.
Personally would like to hear more from you rather than just bleating Psycho constantly. You must have other opinions on others.
Still getting radio silence from CWE…
At this point I still trust him but on a lynch this big currently I thought he’d have an opinion by now. Maybe his work/sleep patterns which I gather are erratic but would definitely like to hear more.
Also kdestiny is still nagging at the back of my mind to be honest. He could be good and I know he’s usually quiet but generally don’t feel he’s been questioned enough and he’s not voted or committed. His Dreyski/Jitters comments still nagging me. CWE pointed to a tell but that was it. He’s skating by a bit IMO. He could at least refer the post if not expand what he means.
Mama, help me, I've been cursed
Doesn't matter how hard I try
Half the words don't mean a thing
So my concern is we KNOW psycho tried to kill someone... and we are piling on the person he tried to kill.
BPV are typically on scum, but could be 3p or town with a BPV.
Psycho could be scum, vig, sk...
Is this the scotch? Really @Mazer? Scotch not tequila? Could’ve been given me the scotch flavour instead of bad apple juice.
Can you at least vote?
EBWOP to CWE.
Vote MTR
Yes he could very well be. You could very well say similar about Pablo too (well except Gadget vig of course). However in Psycho’s defense he did outline his reasoning plenty for Pablo the previous phase and while the bulletproof isn’t 100% proof on Pablo, it is an added concern at this point. Also he’s not normally this blatant as scum at the start of a phase
How do you personally feel about the two of them plus anyone else you want to mention.
Will The defendant please stand,
Is there anything you wish to say on this matter
Before sentencing Pablo?
Im concerned with Psycho based on his ability. Can power wold or be town beacon. The fact that he is still alive, pushes me towards more mistrust of him.
As for Pablo, I dont know his normal playstyle. Havent seen anything great from him... havent seen anything damning either.
Dont like the lack on content from PG
Dont like RIP.
EBWOP
Psycho can power wolf...
Oh believe me I’m very well aware of his power-wolfing ability. Most if not all of us have been caught out at one point or another it. He did outline his case for Pablo previously though and it’s not normally IMO like a scum Psycho to blatantly say vote Pablo or anyone else off the bat if he wasn’t really sure about something.
Pablo as said is normally the most cautious out of all of us when it comes to No Lynching especially on D1. He has been playing longer than me but he has never wavered from this concept as far as I’ve known. I was well aware of his earlier explanation why he voted after the Dreyski flip but still his D1 concept could have still been applied there. He said he wasn’t confident on a No Lynch but still he is a veteran and could have been the first one to say “Okay guys maybe slow down and vote no lynch” and be a confident leader but instead he did a 180 on his MO and was the first to vote instead. It just is not typical of a town Pablo IMO.
EBWOP that vote on 3pups after the Dreyski flip may not just have been to lynch 3pups but to also force him to defend or vote someone else like he did Rip. He knew people were sus of him. Subtly engineering the ensuing Rip/3pups argument the following phase.
I’m also aware of MTR and could maybe vote for him as well but with all the coincidences, immunity vote he was given them being on the same vote train, I’d rather look at Pablo first being a dangerous more experienced player then we look at MTR if Pablo turns out bad.
Vote: MTR
He could be a victim of a poor timing but if neither MTR nor the aforementioned Loaf are scum then that means there was essentially no counter-play to the Jitters lynch and I find that very unlikely.
That’s not a bad argument.
We got a counter-train going rather than a blind one-sided lynch so let’s see how this goes. I may change depending on other’s input. I would also like to hear from MTR more than “oh trying to make heads or tails of this” which he was like the last game and ended up town. That pass has more than expired now.
huh? what do you mean we know he tried to kill someone? just him pointing to pablo?
the way he was reacting to pabs still being alive... reads he tried to kill and is pissed that pabs was still standing
I can agree with most of this stuff. I do however think Psycho is trustworthy as of now. In terms of RIP we seem to have had someone use a track on him last night, so unless someone pushes for that vote with fervor like Psycho is for Pablo I'd say they could likely go down a few pegs of sus.
so that would make him inspector gadget, a townie, and you want to throw sus at him?
Or, now hear me out here because this is a wild theory…
He read the write up and noticed the fact someone fired A DEATH RAY at him, and he survived.
Or he’s the person who fired it, who’s Town, and you’re trying to Lynch him? Wow, how scummy would you like to look here, I’m very, very confident on who’s just jumped to the top of everyone’s scum list for tonight/tomorrow
I’ll try no to lose any sleep over it
Oh good lets talk about Jarrod. Cause right now your someone I could vote on.
I'm at work (shouldn't even be posting).
We had the whole discord discussion which Jarrod seemed happy to push at first. Made a post linking discord people to day one activity before realising day one was about immunity. In fairness corrects himself in the following post. Then later agrees with Blindninja that it was an extreme stretch.
Votes no one on day two avoids Jitters train. Was "pleasantly surprised" Jitters was red. Says in post#758 "I already said I didn't like the Jitters train. I freely admitted I thought he'd pop green. Would scum really say that?" The question here is not would scum say that. It's would Jarrod say that as scum?
You tell me Pabs would scum Jarrod say that? I played a small lovers game with Jarrod in which he took a bold risk as scum to clear a townie. So for me I think Jarrod could say that yes. But I don't know him like you all do.
He votes Psych to see if Randolph's notion holds any weight before his switch. Then came the Dreyski train Jarrod was 3rd on that train. This is you in post#823" I’m leaning Jarrod. Just for being the switch. But let me go see his reasoning for switching."
Is this where your suspicions pick up?
He then votes rip. This isn't a problem because there were 9 people on that train an someone has to be scum and the last 3 were town (2 now confirmed). What did you make it of it?
On the grand scale of things, is Jarrod anywhere near my trust list? No. But he isn't at the bottom either. For me you/mtr/loaf an rip will be who I primarily want to focus on today.
Is this how town Jarrod plays? Do you have anything else to add? Or hey if you want to discuss any other player I'm happy.
Seems like Pablo might be trying to deflect his heat to a town member. If he's scum, he knows I'm town and I'm sure the group concensus in scum chat is push people like myself that have had the finger pointed their way in this game previously.
My concern is that we always say follow the Dees, then when someone pops strong on a target we end up having the same debate, chasing our tales and 9/10 we end up letting someone squirm off the hook.
If we’ve got info then we act, I’m more than happy to follow Psycho here if it turns out he’s pulling a fast one then we’ve got our target for tonight haven’t we?
We’ve got Pabs standing out right now then going forward weve got either Blind Ninja or Psycho as next on the rank, in all the games I’ve played with Psycho I really don’t think he’s stupid enough to stick his neck out this far unless he’s both sure and Town, I don’t know BN as much but he’s all over the place this game with some odd leaps of logic and some really ‘gappy’ theories like his odd push that Psycho’has’ to have tried the kill which doesn’t hold up for me.
Seems like Pabs +1 here, worst case scenario we’ve got one of the buggers
I have already explained my ME vote over Jitters. I didn't have a read on anyone yet since still early in the game and decided to join one of the two trains going. It was a coin flip and I went with ME. I voted ME again later because he just seemed off and scummy. I was off on both of those votes since I didn't vote to get rid of the scum and ME later flipped to be town. I am more experienced having a big game under my belt but I bet my voting is all over the place like the beginning of that game. My voting made me look scum to people in that game. I would argue that voting in the early stages of any game is not going to be a great way to judge people because town folks are going to be all over the map trying to locate scum with very little info to go on.
Again I apologize that I have not been as active this week due to being on vacation and working on a basement clean out while also getting ready to take my son down to staff summer camp for a couple months.
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