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    Yeah it is 188.
    Last edited by Badger; September 18th, 2022 at 6:28 AM.

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    Cheers kdes.
    @Defrost you may reply now.

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    Plus if Nash gets his final post up, will start voting on that tonight.

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    @3puppies let me know if you’re still cool to judge on your phone while still on vacation. Any problems, I can take over.

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    If Don @Dave Wyndorf can get one in overnight, maybe @kdestiny and him can squeeze one more in. Otherwise if he can’t reply by tomorrow, I will end it at one post each.

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    PMed Don to see if he can manage.

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    Was hoping we'd finish over the weekend. Didn't want to bring the laptop on my trip with me but will if I need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Was hoping we'd finish over the weekend. Didn't want to bring the laptop on my trip with me but will if I need to.
    I’ll let you know what he says if/when he gets back to me.

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    Sorry I took so long. Solo with the kids this weekend and just grateful they're all alive.

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    Nae worries. Nash is usually quick but will PM him tomorrow if need be.

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    Meh, even with the last 100+ words cut out, my argument is pretty solid.

    And hey, it saves me something to use in my third post.

    Do all three posts have a 400 word count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Meh, even with the last 100+ words cut out, my argument is pretty solid.

    And hey, it saves me something to use in my third post.

    Do all three posts have a 400 word count?
    Yes.

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    I will for sure have my response up tomorrow morning at some point. Completely spaced this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I will for sure have my response up tomorrow morning at some point. Completely spaced this weekend.

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    @3puppies has had to drop out the first round so I’ll be judging unless there’s anyone else who wants a shot for first round at least?

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    BG unable. If no-one else takes the judge’s spot by the end of Rusty/Nash I’ll do it.

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    @kdestiny Donald is working on it. Think worst case scenario tomorrow morning. Hope you’ll have the time if you have your laptop.

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    @kdestiny his response is now up.

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    Yeah, can't respond until tomorrow afternoon/evening at earliest.

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    Yeah it’s got 11 hours left I’m afraid. Bit shite I know unless you can knock something up real quick.

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    If you can, I’ll close it at 2-2.

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    Bit shit that he took more than the 48 hours but I can't get 24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Bit shit that he took more than the 48 hours but I can't get 24.
    You know what?

    Have til tomorrow afternoon/evening.

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    Due to the circumstances, think it’s fair.

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    I don't want to break the rules. I'm not trying to be negative but I was raring to go the rest of the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    I don't want to break the rules. I'm not trying to be negative but I was raring to go the rest of the weekend.
    It’s fine. I’ll allow it this time as you were waiting.

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    Updating rules to say extensions may be looked at depending on circumstances.

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    King Badger is a fair ruler.

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    Glad to see this first round so far seems to be at a good start. I'll be catching up on everything this week and assuming the two finish(or 3 if kdes/DWynd ends after kdes' post), I'll have the judgments in over the next couple days after.

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    Cool.

    Once kdes posts I’ll close it at 2-2.

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    If I have to step in to judge, it’ll be in a tie breaker situation. If Mazer and Psycho both vote the same way, that’ll be enough.

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    Nash/Rusty has under an hour left but can let it run a bit as long as Nash posts by tonight.

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    I'll have something up shortly. I assumed there was a 48 hour time limit between responses-I think I read that wrong or just noticed Rusty's response was 2 days after mine. Either way I'll have it up in about an hour.

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    Yeah the 48 hour time limits are just for opening posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I'll have something up shortly. I assumed there was a 48 hour time limit between responses-I think I read that wrong or just noticed Rusty's response was 2 days after mine. Either way I'll have it up in about an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Cool.

    Once kdes posts I’ll close it at 2-2.
    Should be 3-3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Wyndorf View Post
    Should be 3-3
    Yeah we’re not gonna have enough time. Only extending it so kdes can level up.

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    Time is a man made idea.

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    Nash/Rusty is open for judge voting.

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    I hope the rematch lived up to the hype.

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    Second is up

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Second is up
    Cheers.

    Started the voting now on this tie too.

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    Hey, if I want to quote a previous post and reiterate a point with something I already said, does that count against my word count?

    Because I'm at 443, with a big block of text from my last post.

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    Like using your opponent’s quote, your own quote won’t count.

    I’ll double check the words in a bit before I end this.

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    Words are fine so started voting.

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    Thanks for being honest Peter.

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    If I get all the votes for the other ties in this week from Mazer and Psycho, I’ll start the semis next week.

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    If I may add some meat to the bone. The reason I couldn't continue is because opposed had me bang to rights as I had absolutely no counter to what he said as it was all spot on, Perhaps if I'd have given it more thought than oh yeah Papa Shango, Bastion may have came to mind, But hey ho.

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    I don't want to tell you who you should have picked. But... well... cock-a-doodle-doo!~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    If I may add some meat to the bone. The reason I couldn't continue is because opposed had me bang to rights as I had absolutely no counter to what he said as it was all spot on, Perhaps if I'd have given it more thought than oh yeah Papa Shango, Bastion may have came to mind, But hey ho.
    This is equal parts and . Not how I would've wanted to win, obviously, and I feel kind of bad putting you in this position. Sorry, boss! But also, well, i won 'cuz I picked a pretty inarguable choice, it seems, so good job, me.

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    It's all good dude, Good luck

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    Sometimes it's not about the choice but the argument being made. I've seen some shitty ass picks win because they were debated so well. On the surface something might look like a slam dunk, but hey, @mth tried that whole "inarguable" choice as HIM from Powderpuff Girls and still lost. Not against me but he did lose lol.
    @mth is like that kid who says no I have a force field, and I have mithril, oh and I can't die because I have Deadpool's mutant ability PLUS I'm Jesus Christ. But even a god can die. I saw it in the new Thor movie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Sometimes it's not about the choice but the argument being made. I've seen some shitty ass picks win because they were debated so well. On the surface something might look like a slam dunk, but hey, @mth tried that whole "inarguable" choice as HIM from Powderpuff Girls and still lost. Not against me but he did lose lol.
    @mth is like that kid who says no I have a force field, and I have mithril, oh and I can't die because I have Deadpool's mutant ability PLUS I'm Jesus Christ. But even a god can die. I saw it in the new Thor movie!
    Spoiler. He lost to me.

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    See, I fully ascribe to the theory that you can't bullshit a bullshitter in a bullshitting contest. Which is basically all a debate is. How well you can you bullshit your way through an argument with another person? And I won't stop bullshitting until I'm up to my neck in it. Even then, if you get me a snorkel and some goggles, I'll bullshit my way under it. No matter how deep the bullshit goes, eventually you'll hit bottom. And then you can kick off and swim back up. And that's how you win.

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    Though I have never won a Fiction Fight tournament, still think the best victory was me beating Hero! who had an ultra powerful character with Alan Partridge when I was taking the piss entering with him!

    Like Vice/Uncle Phil debating stuff!

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    Have I won?

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    Not yet. Haven’t got any votes though I believe Mazer may be sending his today.

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    I'll have to find out Mazer's PayPal info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Spoiler. He lost to me.
    haha That's right!

    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Though I have never won a Fiction Fight tournament, still think the best victory was me beating Hero! who had an ultra powerful character with Alan Partridge when I was taking the piss entering with him!

    Like Vice/Uncle Phil debating stuff!
    The Uncle Phil debate was incredible. I know to the masses it's a teardrop in the ocean but for me it's one of the few real memories I maintain from this place. It was just so over the top-and convincing.

    Fiction Fight is always fun.

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    Defrost also advances as per Spudz banning. Not the most ideal way to advance but there you go.

    Still waiting on votes for the other two ties. I’m sure Maze and Psycho will get to it soon.

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    Fuck man this tournament is snake bitten lol. Only 2 of the ties were completed, albeit one of them with a replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Fuck man this tournament is snake bitten lol. Only 2 of the ties were completed, albeit one of them with a replacement.
    Shit always happens in these things but confident it will get better from here with the people we have left.

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    Probably gonna extend the time a bit for the semis and maybe drop the 48 hour opening posts rule. Word count will go up while post count will still be 3 each.

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    Sorry I took long with my replies. When I advance, I'll make sure it doesn't happen again, though I will be gone for the next week or so as previously noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Wyndorf View Post
    Sorry I took long with my replies. When I advance, I'll make sure it doesn't happen again, though I will be gone for the next week or so as previously noted.
    Oh yeah. I’ll hold yours off if you advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Shit always happens in these things but confident it will get better from here with the people we have left.
    Maybe. @mth is one lucky son of a bitch lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Oh yeah. I’ll hold yours off if you advance.
    *when

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    Just so we can salvage something out of this and the work isn’t entirely wasted, you can comment freely on the Spudz/Defrost debate now if you’ve read it and who you felt would’ve won.

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    Just know I'm your Jon Moxley.

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    Good I could use a plumber. #cornettejoke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Just know I'm your Jon Moxley.
    Indeed you are.

    Cheers for the feedback on Spudz/Defrost.

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    Gave my own feedback on it too in Spudz/Defrost. Encourage others to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    My argument was so sound it broke a man
    Although your argument was great and you would have won anyway IMO, to be fair that man was already broken.

    “Badger I am sorry for breaking the word count. Is it 400 word count for every post?”

    Me:

    That’s not even counting his Asylum behaviour.

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    Let him away with an edit earlier too. He was luckily I didn’t disqualify him and had his post cut down although in the Asylum he got himself disqualified.

    #Rantover This tourney will kick ass from here on out!

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    This tourney will probably wind up being me, Rusty, and Defrost doing a round robin. Champ shit. Well I'm like IC champ but still.

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    Spudz can’t be helped but felt Peter had an opening or two there but he didn’t see. mth while great it wasn’t impossible.

    C’est la vie!

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    Eg Papa Shango was so bad and being main-event that Charles had to reinvent it twice. Booger while ugly, bad and smelly it was effective. Plus definitely not the worst considering the stereotypical bordering on racist goofy shit we got in that era. Openings and choices were to be had there.

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    Tbh honest, out of all the questions I gave, mth and Peter were the most spoilt for choice as to how much shit they could’ve gone with!

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    Papa Shango was a terrible choice in comparison to Bastion Booger, maybe because I thought Shango was the fuckin shit and should've been WWF champion. That's a gimmick that I could argue was the biggest missed opp of that era no doubt. So I get where Peter would be frustrated but again, Bastion might be the obvious answer but it's not about the obvious answer. I won a fuckin debate arguing Carlos Colon shouldn't be in the HOF over low hanging fruit contender Koko B Ware-picked by guess who? @mth That little bastard thinks he's slick with these "unbeatable" choices until an Iowan steps up to the plate.

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    Thing with Papa Shago that I planned to point out in my second post is what PG said in his own post and something I've seen others say on the boards, as well: kids were scared of him. They bought into that shit with Warrior. Yeah, it's corn ylooking back on it as adults...but at the time? Pretty effective gimmick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Papa Shango was a terrible choice in comparison to Bastion Booger, maybe because I thought Shango was the fuckin shit and should've been WWF champion. That's a gimmick that I could argue was the biggest missed opp of that era no doubt. So I get where Peter would be frustrated but again, Bastion might be the obvious answer but it's not about the obvious answer. I won a fuckin debate arguing Carlos Colon shouldn't be in the HOF over low hanging fruit contender Koko B Ware-picked by guess who? @mth That little bastard thinks he's slick with these "unbeatable" choices until an Iowan steps up to the plate.
    Peter told me this was a “lay-up” so while I do feel his frustration a bit and not to be too harsh on him, down to him for rushing it IMO.

    I know from previous experience Peter is a great debater though so will put this down to being impetuous. If things had worked out a bit better here would’ve given him a second shot along with MTR but they are both considered for being a 3rd judge if @3puppies still cannot make it. He asked to be taken out of the first round as on holiday but hope he comes back for the rest of the tourney. Would ask @Jarrod1983 to step in as a third judge for the rest if need be (only tagging him to make a point) but can understand if judging debates is the furthest thing from his mind at this point otherwise would’ve got him in to replace 3pups.

    On that note, Jarrod hope you are doing well bud xx

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    Hey I was like 11 when that green shit started pouring out of people's heads it was wild. As far back as Lost Boys coming out on VHS I was addicted to horror movies so anything supernatural I was attracted to. Except Taker. Never liked the guy until he threw Mick off the cell. Even his matches against Shawn, Diesel, I was like fuck this guy lol. I liked his matches don't get me wrong I just didn't care about him. Started warming up to him in 1996 when he had the match with Bret and Diesel, the Mankind stuff I was more into Mankind-finally a guy beating the fuck out him.

    But yeah even Ministry, hated it. Shit that might've been my pick if I was Spudz, the fuckin Ministry sucked so much cock. Corporate Ministry was actually worse so that would've been my choice.

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    My gimmick questions were great this round! Sucks to those who took ages to step up lol.

    Gave plenty time as well to let people know if they were struggling for time and could’ve rearranged. @mth did and @Dave Wyndorf did for future and even accommodated that (and he still took ages!) so yeah did all I could! Anything else outside my circumstance!
    Last edited by Badger; September 22nd, 2022 at 9:20 PM.

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    Sorry about the rant. I know shit can crop up anytime but just a little heads up when it does is all I ask instead of being kept in the dark and having to chase

    Despite all that, potato-head is still the biggest idiot of everyone when he was interested, did him favours, couldn’t understand basic instructions and got himself permabanned!
    Last edited by Badger; September 22nd, 2022 at 9:36 PM.

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    I am finally breaking the fever and I will never forgive the people who spread this to me. Vacation was supposed to be relaxing with a lot of good food and sun. Not spending it with chills and coughing and aches. I don't have Covid but with 2 days left on my vacation I will try to get a credit to maybe try again another time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    I am finally breaking the fever and I will never forgive the people who spread this to me. Vacation was supposed to be relaxing with a lot of good food and sun. Not spending it with chills and coughing and aches. I don't have Covid but with 2 days left on my vacation I will try to get a credit to maybe try again another time.
    First round not over yet and semis I’m planning on extending through a Monday to a week the following Friday depending on if I get the votes in from Maze and Psycho over the weekend. When semi final judging time comes I’ll ask you how you’re feeling then. Otherwise I’ll get a replacement if you’re still unwell by then.

    Hope you’re better soon!

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    Btw just realised Scotland are playing Republic of Ireland tomorrow night in a big footy game so may need a couple of days to recover after ze pub. Tuesday/Wednesday next week for the semis (or I might have a semi depending on @Dave Wyndorf, pun intended) may be more realistic!

    Of course still need judge votes for that to happen! (sorry guys last time lol).

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    Have one so far for Dave/kdes. Ta muchly Maze!

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    Man how long does it take to pick a winner lol. How about you just roll the dice and 1-3 I win, 4-6 Rusty wins. Unlike Willy Wonka I want the suspense to end it's killing me lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Man how long does it take to pick a winner lol. How about you just roll the dice and 1-3 I win, 4-6 Rusty wins. Unlike Willy Wonka I want the suspense to end it's killing me lol
    They’ve been busy plus Psycho is running a Mafia game currently which Mazer is participating in plus Mazer was a bit sick yesterday.

    Psycho told me yesterday he’s working on yours and knowing his votes it will be detailed. Mazer no doubt will follow shortly.

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    Ok I guess if the mafia is involved that's a good enough excuse. No need for dude to get whacked over a message board debate tournament.
    @Mazer You weren't sick enough to come over last night and rub my shoulders.

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    Hopefully mazer got my PayPal payment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Ok I guess if the mafia is involved that's a good enough excuse. No need for dude to get whacked over a message board debate tournament.
    @Mazer You weren't sick enough to come over last night and rub my shoulders.
    Or maybe he got sick after catching something off you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Wyndorf View Post
    Hopefully mazer got my PayPal payment
    Till Psycho votes, that information will have to remain classified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Or maybe he got sick after catching something off you.
    Oh I knew he was ill prior to him coming over but he said it was just a rash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Oh I knew he was ill prior to him coming over but he said it was just a rash.
    Btw Psycho has confirmed to me now he will have his votes in today and is struggling to choose between you and Rusty so yeah the rematch lived up to the hype.

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