Liv Morgan vs. Carmella
The Usos (c) vs. The Street Profits: SmackDown Tag Team Championship Match
Damian Priest (c) vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Sheamus: Triple Threat Match for the WWE United States Championship
Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Alexa Bliss: Raw Women's Championship Match
Becky Lynch (c) vs. Bianca Belair: SmackDown Women's Championship Match
Roman Reigns (c) vs. "The Demon" Finn Bálor: Extreme Rules match for the WWE Universal Championship
I guess it's good that they're not sprinkling silly stipulations across the card. Curious to see what they make for the kickoff match.
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So much for the one night where WWE turns into a DEMOLITION DERBY! Honestly, I'm disappointed it isn't s stip heavy card. Throw a ladder match and a tables match on there, at least, otherwise, it's kind of dumb to be Extreme Rules with only one ER match. Can't say as I'm particularly hyped without the stips to spice things up. The SD Women's and Universal title match both have my interest pretty high but I'm meh to the rest of the card, though I think everything should probably be decent.
A ladder match for the US title would've been a good stip to add. Good for Hardy, good for Priest. I hope there's some pre-show additions for the main show matches. Smackdown tag match feels like it should have something added to it. Should be a good show still.
Liv Morgan vs. Carmella
Pretty messy situation at the start for this match as Peacock had BOTH the English and Spanish commentary feeds going at the same time haha. The match was actually pretty good. Liv continues to show out when she gets time in the ring. I do like the fact her pace is more fluid, so she's getting comfortable. Crowd got really behind her too. As I said Friday, the loss for Liv wasn't going to matter if she won here but that doesn't mean that's the right decision to book that way.
The New Day vs. Bobby Lashley, AJ Styles & Omos
It became an international incident as the French commentary feed piped in during the intro of this match haha. I get the negative optics of an impromptu match being made with the WWE champion and having that without any promotion but I doubt that's a full-on negative on the assessment of E. Just poor planning on WWE's part. Good bit early with Styles working through Woods and Kingston, then falling out E. With E getting to work over Styles for a brief moment, that was simple but effective in-match storytelling that can help E over time. Going to need a straight-up match between Styles and E at some point. This match was given a ton of time, and it really was a fun match. Clever booking to have the heels get crossed up and E capitalized on it, and not in a cheap way. Lashley's language was extreme later but looks like he's getting his title rematch against E on Raw to start the show.
The Usos (c) vs. The Street Profits: SmackDown Tag Team Championship Match
Good fire by Ford early, which was necessary after he got jumped by The Usos after the match on Friday. Ford did a nice job selling his injuries too over the course of the match. Good tag work by both teams over the course of the match. Really great near fall after Ford hit From the Heavens. Good bit at the end with Dawkins taking the bullet for Ford but it ultimately didn't matter as Ford was left without help and lost. Makes sense with The Usos retaining and can see The Street Profits being broken up or just moved to Raw for a clean slate via the draft.
Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Alexa Bliss: Raw Women's Championship Match
Nice nod by Charlotte to her man with the Sombrasault. There wasn't hocus pocus but Lilly was utilized by Charlotte. Alexa got distracted by that and it was ultimately her downfall. The visual of Charlotte holding the championship and the remains of Lilly was kind of cool. Not ideal for someone to get punked out after they go for a surprise attack, and that's what happened to Alexa after the match. Also not ideal that she's more upset about Lilly being destroyed than losing the match. The "Thank you, Lilly" chants by the crowd were hilarious. Think Alexa was supposed to have a capsule that made her foam at the mouth but fitting for the whole match...it didn't exactly work out.
Damian Priest (c) vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Sheamus: Triple Threat Match for the WWE United States Championship
With the lack of stips, the name of the PPV, and this being a triple threat, the crowd really wanted tables for this match. Sheamus mocking Hardy before delivering a knee from the top was pretty good. He really needed to cap it off with a Swanton, though. Kind of wild to see the crowd was so behind Hardy. Priest snuck in on Sheamus with a cradle for the win. Wasn't the greatest triple threat but it was a good match.
Becky Lynch (c) vs. Bianca Belair: SmackDown Women's Championship Match
Good video package before the match, and the crowd was up for this one. Sounds like her natural ability and the house show prep did well for Becky as she looked really good in this match. The chemistry wasn't really there in the first women's match, so luckily these two had that and then some. Bianca really got to show out some of her strength during the match. I really could go for more of these two together. Pretty surprising to see Sasha return and cause the DQ. I thought we were going to firmly establish a turn for Becky with shenanigans, so this just raises more questions. Tricky to see how Sasha is going to work character wise, as she caused the DQ as Bianca was about to hit the KOTD but then she went after Becky, too. She looked strong as she cleaned house to end things.
Roman Reigns (c) vs. "The Demon" Finn Bálor: Extreme Rules match for the WWE Universal Championship
Another stellar video package for this match. Still like the AR effects for Bálor's entrance but probably could have done without the tentacles coming out of the portal thing haha. Hilarious to see Reigns work the crowd with the table and calling them dumbasses. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBLE HEAD OF THE TABLE, wearing a mask as he went into the crowd. Reigns got got with the down south kick out. Reigns' face for that was really good too. Got a little laborious when The Usos came out to save Reigns but it was a great climax with Reigns spearing The Demon through the barricade. Things got super bizarre as The Demon's theme played and he suddenly got a revitalized health bar but as he was able to go for the Coupe de Grace, the top rope suddenly broke. That seemed kind of dangerous for Bálor's knees but that's how they found a way to get out with a finish. Seemed weird to tease that had swerve where The Demon was about to win and then REALLY pull the rug out. The Demon has only ever lost to Samoans named Joe. They're going to have to figure something out to do right for Bálor because that was certainly a weird finish to a very good match.
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Didn't see the preshow match but glad to hear Liv won and hope the momentum continues for her.
Six-man tag was a surprise but a good won as I like everyone involved and they put on a damn fine bout. Nice big win for E though I was really hoping he would get in there with Omos and maybe do some feats of strength. I expect E vs. Lashley to be a banger on RAW tomorrow. BIG MEATY MEN SLAPPIN' MEAT.
Not much to say about Usos/SP other than it was really good.
Was glad that Bliss/Flair didn't have a bunch of spooky nonsense. Crowd is really into Bliss and Lily even though it's silly so I guess that says something. Really good match. You could actually see Bliss grabbing something as she went under the table post-match, Alka-Seltzer i think, which didn't seem to cause any reaction when she popped it so she just had a big ol' tablet on her tongue when she was screaming which didn't look good. Curious if Lily is dead or if Bliss will resurrect her or what. I remember rumors of Bliss wearing a mask circulating awhile back so maybe she becomes one with Lily and wears a Lily-esque mask?
US Title match could have really used a ladder or table stip. It was fine outside of a couple of big fumbles. I don't really understand the sudden swell of support for Jeff but whatever, a hot crowd is good. I also thought Sheamus was going to do a Swanton when he was doing the Hardy taunts on the top, ah well. Glad Priest retained.
Becky/Bianca was an absolute banger and I want more of them one-on-one later. Completely forgot Sasha existed if I'm honest but happy to have her back int he mix (and I got my prediction bang on thanks to her). Don't really care if Becky's heel turn is taking so long as the crowd is hot and they were big into this match so it's all good, baby.
Loved Reigns anti-table stuff in the main. Loved him donning the mask for the in-crowd bit. He is such a king now. The Demon's revitalization stuff was weird and wild but I was kind of digging it (could have just used the sound effects sans music, though) and i was convinced he was going to just no sell like a mofo and get it done. The rope breaking was pretty damn left field and shocking and the way everyone was selling it makes me think someone was helping out? The way Roman was looking to the sky I guess that was The Lord? I assume it will be shit upon by the majority but it was unique and creative and unexpected as hell and I want those kinds of things so I think it has more pros than cons.
Was glad that Bliss/Flair didn't have a bunch of spooky nonsense. Crowd is really into Bliss and Lily even though it's silly so I guess that says something.
Fair enough but it seems like most of her recent PPV appearances, they've been pretty behind her. They were super into her at MITB, too. The Charly doll got chants on RAW. I dunno, seems like live crowds are into her shtick a lot of the time.
It was a good show, but just like every other PPV, in two months nobody will even remember any of the matches on this card. I need iconic moments in my WWE, and I don't think there have been any since Drew McIntyre winning the Royal Rumble. Get with it WWE.
Are you sure you're not hearing crowd sweetening? I'm not even sure if she's supposed to be a face or heel, to be honest.
Alexa in general is pretty likable though.
I don't think so. Canned crowd noise is usually pretty obvious. She's just so good and likeable I think people just dig her even if she's doing stupid shit. And maybe her doll thing isn't over with internet nerds but is with your average fan? What's her merch moving like?
Also she's definitely been a face since Wyatt left, feuding with Baszler, Eva, and now Charlotte. Even with him, I think they were the faces against Orton...?
It was the best (only?) way to protect Finn’s Demon character, particularly after the company (read: Vince) belatedly realized that they (he) called that play prematurely.
The Demon is/should be meant for the epic blowoff to a feud which puts Finn over, not as mere filler before Roman goes over Brock in Saudi Arabia.
Decent ppv. 6-man opener was a banger. The women's matches delivered. Sasha Banks returning beating everyone's ass was awesome. Sucks the draft is coming up because I don't see all 3 of them on the same show 2 Friday's from now. Honestly every single match delivered I didn't think anything sucked on the main card. Roman/Demon was incredible, these 2 have wonderful chemistry.
8/10. Demon and Hardy winning might've pushed this to a 10/10.
8/10. Demon and Hardy winning might've pushed this to a 10/10.
I almost jumped through the roof when Sheamus brogue kicked Damien priest and then Hardy pushed Sheamus out of the ring and went to pin Priest. Would have been the perfect finish for that match.
When Balor had the 2nd burst I was convinced he was taking the championship. In my head I thought if he did beat Roman he was probably going to have another short reign because I'm sure the Saudi show requires Roman v. Lesnar to be for the belt. Either way, I'm glad Finn is in the top tier. The only 2 guys who are higher up aren't even full time (Lesnar and Cena).
Smackdown is just extremely stacked and I'm really curious to see where they go with Balor.
I was probably the only person thinking The Fiend was going to show up out of the smoke and cause Balor to lose because you could tell he was taking FOREVER to launch off the top.
What was that white stuff in her mouth? It looked like she was trying to foam at the mouth but the tablet didn't dissolve properly. Go back and watch for those that didn't notice, there's some type of alka seltzer tab in her mouth but it looked more like the end of a porn.
Having to protect everyone gets old after a while. If someone can't take a loss, don't put them in the match.
At least explain the turnbuckle breaking. I hope they show a clip from earlier in the day with Truth and Tozawa loosening it. Truth says he has it on good authority that Reginald will be at that spot at precisely "insert time".
Sheamus was on it earlier in the night, he's gotta be what, close to 300? Perhaps that weight loosened it, as I don't think anyone else went to the top after him.
Having to protect everyone gets old after a while. If someone can't take a loss, don't put them in the match.
At least explain the turnbuckle breaking. I hope they show a clip from earlier in the day with Truth and Tozawa loosening it. Truth says he has it on good authority that Reginald will be at that spot at precisely "insert time".
That's the joy of episodic tv. They have to give you a reason to tune in next time. If every show was a bookend it'd suck.
Having to protect everyone gets old after a while. If someone can't take a loss, don't put them in the match.
At least explain the turnbuckle breaking. I hope they show a clip from earlier in the day with Truth and Tozawa loosening it. Truth says he has it on good authority that Reginald will be at that spot at precisely "insert time".
You’re talking about pro wrestling, aka the sport literally predicated on kayfabe/protecting the industry.
In the tradition of "Who ran down Stone Cold?" and "Who's Vince's son?", the WWE proudly brings you "Who loosened the turnbuckle?".
Yeah I don't see this being something they drag out for a year like they did with Stone Cold or several months like they did for Vince's son.
I'll be honest, I thought I heard Pat say it was the Usos. He said something like "And who's to blame for this? The Usos!" But he might've just been talking about the overall nonsense with them interfering.
Who knows, maybe the ropes just broke and that's what they'll run with. It's a lose-lose. If it was someone's fault, people will bitch. If it was self-explanatory i.e. ropes tend to break, people will bitch. I wasn't a fan of the ending but I wasn't negative to it because IMHO it was better than Roman beating him clean with a spear.
You’re talking about wrestling, aka the sport literally predicated on kayfabe or protecting the industry.
Most fans don't want that approach. My best friend thinks everyone is friends with each other and all the heels are actually really cool. We were watching AEW and he was like "I bet MJF is just the sweetest guy" and honestly I bet he is and he's one of the few good actors in the business. But he also thought that about Lesnar and I said naw, he hates people lol. Legit.
I'm very curious to see if The Demon appeals to the Ohio State Athletic Commission seeking to overturn the loss into a no contest on account of a faulty ring.
I'm very curious to see if The Demon appeals to the Ohio State Athletic Commission seeking to overturn the loss into a no contest on account of a faulty ring.
Liv vs. Carmella: 2.25
New Day vs. Styles/Omos/Lashley: 3.5
The Usos vs. Street Profits: 3.25
Charlotte vs. Alexa: 2.5
Priest vs. Sheamus vs. Hardy: 3.75
Becky vs. Bianca: 3.0
Reigns vs. Bálor: 4.0
I thought Charlotte vs. Bliss was better than that. Charlotte is one of the best of all time and Alexa knows her way around the ring. The post match shrieking by Bliss as Lilly was torn to shreds was a bit much, and the alka seltzer botch didn't help any. But the match itself was very watchable.
I think it’s inconsistency on how Bliss has been booked in this character has reared its ugly head. It’s like they are torn between vulnerable and unstoppable. For instance, Shayna downplays Lily, Lily gets revenge and Shayna didn’t do what Charlotte did. Charlotte rips her apart, Bliss should’ve gone straight into angry mode and skipped crying.
I think it’s inconsistency on how Bliss has been booked in this character has reared its ugly head. It’s like they are torn between vulnerable and unstoppable. For instance, Shayna downplays Lily, Lily gets revenge and Shayna didn’t do what Charlotte did. Charlotte rips her apart, Bliss should’ve gone straight into angry mode and skipped crying.
I didn't watch the PPV. Did Bliss try any of her mind control powers? It's been weeks since I last saw her use them.
I didn't watch the PPV. Did Bliss try any of her mind control powers? It's been weeks since I last saw her use them.
Not really. It was back-and-forth a bit then Charlotte grabbed Lily and the rest is history. No post-match hocus pocus post-mortem Lily consequences for Charlotte either. Just smash doll and there ya go!
She has used mind control and switched characters before…but here it felt rushed. Those two can and will have better matches with each other!
Not really. It was back-and-forth a bit then Charlotte grabbed Lily and the rest is history. No post-match hocus pocus post-mortem Lily consequences for Charlotte either. Just smash doll and there ya go!
She has used mind control and switched characters before…but here it felt rushed. Those two can and will have better matches with each other!
Since Alexa is reportedly taking time off, this match seems like it was set up just to explain her absence. No wonder it was rushed. At least it sounds better than the Alexa/Eva match at SummerSlam.
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