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    Rajah's 2021 Top Twenty Movie Villains

    A hero is only as good as the villain he opposes.

    Really enjoyed the recent lists from _me and Fro so thought I'd run one for fun. Instead of movies though I wanted to do a character countdown and thought villains would be fun.

    PM me your top 20 film villains. Your choice, not best ever just your personal top 20. I will grade by a point system, displayed below.

    20- 1 point
    19- 2 points
    18- 3 points
    Etc. Etc. Etc.
    3- 18 points
    2- 19 points
    1- 20 points

    I will do a big countdown, including all picks, like my Super NES countdown but put more focus on the top twenty.

    I figure we can start this up in the end of September or early October. Plenty of time to get a list going!

    Quick countdown that features different kinds of villains to get your brain flowing.


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    We have done this before but it’s been pruned. I believe when I ran it, it was tournament style with polls & a bracket.

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    Awesome, hope I get a bunch of entries.

    I don't think I did the poll. Either way, thought I'd start with villains and then do heros down the line.

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    An older list but good for reference.

    https://www.afi.com/afis-100-years-100-heroes-villians/

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    Quote Originally Posted by _me View Post
    An older list but good for reference.

    https://www.afi.com/afis-100-years-100-heroes-villians/
    This is a nice start, but it excludes animated movie villains like Cruella deVille, Ursula, Scar, and Maleficent, etc.

    I'm in

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    Quote Originally Posted by _me View Post
    An older list but good for reference.

    https://www.afi.com/afis-100-years-100-heroes-villians/
    Reading this list and I never really thought of Alex from Clockwork Orange as a straight up villain. I guess that's the disturbing part about that movie.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    This is a nice start, but it excludes animated movie villains like Cruella deVille, Ursula, Scar, and Maleficent, etc.

    I'm in
    It did have several animated villains. The Queen from Snow White, the "Man" from Bambi, etc.

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    Glad I'll get a bunch of lists.

    I'm working on mine still too. A lot of good heels out there.

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    I'm in.

    Someone has to ride for Rex Manning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I'm in.

    Someone has to ride for Rex Manning.
    I'll spread some rep and get back to you Mazer.

    Hey, it's favorite villains so I hope Rex Manning makes a run here.

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    Rex Manning was a quintessential 90s Villain. I am willing to go to war on this.

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    White hot heat!

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    I’ll be submitting a list. Do we have a deadline yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I’ll be submitting a list. Do we have a deadline yet?
    No deadline yet.

    Let's say Monday, September 27th. Still gives everyone a couple weeks to submit a list.

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    Sounds good

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    Will do

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    Awesome.

    I think my list is pretty much locked.

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    Can you have the same character twice? For example, Jack Nicholson's Joker and Cesar Romero's Joker? Or is it Joker only allowed once, regardless of actor?

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    If you want the Joker twice with 2 different actors go for it.

    I will not count different stuntmen or actors playing a slasher like Jason Voorhees example though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    If you want the Joker twice with 2 different actors go for it.

    I will not count different stuntmen or actors playing a slasher like Jason Voorhees example though.
    Damn, I was going to list 10 different Michael Myers

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    How's everyone's lists coming along?

    Hoping to get some soon to start putting things together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    How's everyone's lists coming along?

    Hoping to get some soon to start putting things together.
    Haven't started but still planing on submitting

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    Cool! Still plenty of time. I was just curious where people were at with it.

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    I'll throw mine in before Rex Manning Day.

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    I just submitted my list. I wasn't 100% sure if you were going for completely generalized characters on this list. For example, I think it's safe to assume you're not trying to have us break down which Jason Voorhees actor was your particular favorite, you're cool with simply Jason Voorhees. But then you have The Joker, so I made sure to let it be known which (if any) falls on my list in terms of that particular actor. Although, spoiler alert, I did put Freddy Krueger on my list and just remembered there are 2 different ones--so just know I'm speaking about Englund not Jackie.

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    Yeah I'm sort of taking it on a character by character vote and seeing what gets submitted. I know The Joker I'm breaking down as to which Joker people want. Romero, Nicholson, Ledger, Leto and Phoenix are all separate and definitely vote for which ever one(s) you'd like to.

    As in the case of Freddy or Jason etc., just accepting the name and not breaking down each one.

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    Here's something interesting: Was Phoenix's Joker a villain? I actually mentioned something about how I never really thought of Alex from Clockwork Orange to be a villain but then I was thinking, yeah he was lol. But Phoenix....without going too deep I just didn't see him as a bad guy until the very end. Which even that was debatable lol.

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    Definitely not as evil as the other versions but I'd say some evil lurked in there. I only saw it once so I'd definitely need a rewatch to talk on this subject.

    I figured I'd just list them all but even typing the names I felt like Ledger and Nicholson's version will get votes where as the other 3 probably not as much.

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    Combine all the jokers into one for this poll. There are plenty of villains to round this out.

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    Plenty of villains but I feel since it's favorites that if you want to rank Ledger and Nicholson separate then go for it.

    I didn't want to combine them because I feel like some versions just don't hit like the two versions I mentioned above.

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    The best Joker was in a movie. Mark Hamill. The animated movies count dammit.

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    I always lean toward something like this being more about the timeless conceptualized character than a particular actor portrayal.

    Their backstory, their motives, their mission, their attributes. The essence of 'The Joker' as from the original introduction through each version and as we expect him.

    The different interpretations are very important of course towards those overall productions they're in - and worth noting who liked who more here - but the general makeup of the villain is, imo of course, what ranking all-time baddies against one another is all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    The best Joker was in a movie. Mark Hamill. The animated movies count dammit.
    I'm an asshole for forgetting the animated Batman movies and yes they count.

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    List submitted. I look forward to seeing what absolute gimmies I missed out.

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    Pushing 50 villains ranked. Lists rolling in, things are starting to get fun.

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    Here is my short list of 35 which I post in an effort to get people not to forget certain ones, like Dr. Evil!


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    That's fun. I had forgotten Lumbergh but not Shooter McGavin. As a comic heel Christopher McDonald always delivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Here is my short list of 35 which I post in an effort to get people not to forget certain ones, like Dr. Evil!

    Where's Rex?


    Both T and Manning?

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    Forgot about Scar


    That's a good one. Scar or Jafar?


    You could do a whole Disney ranking.

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    Scar just because of the voice acting and "Be Prepared" is a bad ass Disney villain song.

    Skipped T-Rex but had considered the lead Raptor from the original.

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    Scar or Gaston then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyski View Post
    List submitted. I look forward to seeing what absolute gimmies I missed out.
    That's always the worst like how the fuck did I miss that guy? I'm already seeing one name I missed that I love-Dr. Evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Scar or Gaston then?
    Scar by a hair.

    The real question is Ursula or Scar. That dam sea witch steals the show with "Poor Unfortunate Soul".

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    Can I have until Friday to send my list? I know my top 5 for sure but may want to rearrange 6-20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    Scar just because of the voice acting and "Be Prepared" is a bad ass Disney villain song.
    But Jafar had Iago, possibly the best second fiddle villain in the whole Disney canon.

    He's got a little hat and everything!

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    True but that voice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Can I have until Friday to send my list? I know my top 5 for sure but may want to rearrange 6-20
    Yeah I said the 27th but figured there would be a couple stragglers after that.

    I only have a a few lists anyways so hoping to get a lot more.

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    Gilbert Gottfried has the voice of angel.


    A dirty, cast out of heaven, landed too hard in hell, and had to drink a lot of brimstone angel. But still an angel, and he deserves your respect.

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    Of course.


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    submitted my list

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    Thanks Fro!

    My weekend is looking pretty uneventful. Flood my inbox with lists people!

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    A friendly reminder or a official invite. Hopefully to get a bunch of lists this weekend and kick this off soon. Thank you everybody!
    @3puppies @Atty @Badger @Bert @BigAl @Bluegunn @Caito @Chris @CWE @Defrost @Donald @Hero! @JuveLeo @kangus @kdestiny @King Diamond @lotjx @Mazer @_me @Melly @Mikey_Jones @MMH @Morrison @MrGrim @mth @Pablo Diablo @Percussion @Peter Griffin @Psycho666Soldier @Rancid_Planet @Randolph @Rip @Romford Pele @Tainted Eclipse @TraXX @virms

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    My list is imminent. Thanks for the reminder.

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    No problem! Entering Fro's list now. He definitely has added a few more names to the mix.

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    Thanks everyone!

    I expected you to strap the rocket to Rex's ass Mazer with the way you were pushing him.

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    I sent the only vote that matters via pm a while back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    I sent the only vote that matters via pm a while back.
    Yeah, thought I’d give you a last call for the other 19. Your 1 is a great one but was hoping you’d fill in the rest.

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    Done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    Yeah, thought I’d give you a last call for the other 19. Your 1 is a great one but was hoping you’d fill in the rest.
    None of the others compare. Please make mine 1 billion points.

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    classic villainy

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    there's so many funny lines in this one scene. "The big sleazy, Tommy Gufano. He's a wop genius."

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    Very interested to see how this turns out because I could see this going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuveLeo View Post
    I'm in! How much time do I have?
    I said 27th was cut off but figure it'll be a few days after that. The more lists the better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    The best Joker was in a movie. Mark Hamill. The animated movies count dammit.
    I was discussing this with some lads at work last night and one of them made the same point. In my defence, I thought the animation was TV only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyski View Post
    I was discussing this with some lads at work last night and one of them made the same point. In my defence, I thought the animation was TV only.
    I haven't seen a lot of the animated movies but I know Hamill voiced Joker for The Killing Joke that did have a limited release so Mark eeks his way into the conversation.

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    Cool Badger. I'm working through them right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    I said 27th was cut off but figure it'll be a few days after that. The more lists the better!
    I'll send it tonight

    Edit: Had some time earlier. List sent
    Last edited by JuveLeo; September 25th, 2021 at 2:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    I haven't seen a lot of the animated movies but I know Hamill voiced Joker for The Killing Joke that did have a limited release so Mark eeks his way into the conversation.
    He's in Batman: Mask of the Phantasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    He's in Batman: Mask of the Phantasm.
    Which is very underrated in the Batman Movie pantheon.

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