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    The Vi-Free Fantasy Football League

    Just gauging the interest in running a free league this year. We've had the VIP league for years but tbh only half the players have been playing much and @hithit doesn't have the time to organise it this year. As recently as two years ago we had the Free League as well. I'd like to think there's enough interest to run a free league with 8-12 active players.

    I know Fro is in and I'll ask around the cash league today and if there's enough interest then we can agree a day to draft.

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    I'd be up for participating, as the free league has been fun with Rajah folks in the past few seasons.

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    I had a doctors appointment recently and he confirmed I’m vi-free so I’m IN

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    free fantasy (american) football league?

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    if you're interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    @Defrost @Gary J @Mazer

    free fantasy (american) football league?
    Sure

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    Sounds great

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    I actually can't PM you due to historic admin backstabbing. I'll leave you a visitor message.

    Great stuff lads, thought it might just be Fro and I.

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    @kdestiny can you help beefy out on the pm thing?

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    Beefy just needs to delete stuff.

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    I did. After I copied and pasted some stuff first though. I didn't have as much as you but yeah I was way way over the limit as well once I was no longer an admin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    @Defrost @Gary J @Mazer

    free fantasy (american) football league?
    Sure

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    Just like a yahoo draft online?

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    I'll speak for beefy and say we're looking for players who will remain active and not abandon their teams during the season even though it's a free league

    I find with free leagues people can tend to lose interest if they miss the draft. but it's also hard to make a draft time that works for everyone

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    Yeah as Fro said, ideally we'd have active players. I know it is a long season and people lose interest when there's no cash on the line but setting a team and checking the waiver wire isn't a big committment.

    Will probably be the ESPN app like the VIP league was unless there's a strong desire for Sleeper or NFL.com instead. Would prefer to avoid Yahoo.

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    @BBF is in too so just need one more to round us out to 12. @Jarrod1983 are you our twelfth man?

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    I usually just do free leagues so not a big deal there for activity but only really do Yahoo leagues. Maybe next year.

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    I can make whenever work for a draft.

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    Really hard for there to find a good time for me to make a draft. As much I love to be at drafts I will prerank and be fine. Week nights and weekends are good for me mostly but figured nights are out since we have people from over yonder. This weekend would be a no go(camping) and the following Saturday probably a no go since I am going to Empowerrr and thinking about going down for fan fast as well.

    Not picky about platform. I have done yahoo and espn in the past. espn will be fine with me.

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    I'm approximately 20 years deep on yahoo. Also done ESPN.

    Whatever works. I'm sure I can figure a different platform if needed.

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    Regarding draft time... yea weeknights are tough because of the UK folks, especially if we have people in the central/mountain/pacific time zones in America. By the time they're off work, UK folks are in bed.

    The Monday before the NFL opener is Labor Day holiday in America. The Monday prior to that is Summer Bank Holiday in the UK. So both weekends preceding the opener are holiday weekends somewhere. Hence people may have plans/commitments/travel those weekends (although with Covid, maybe not so much anymore).

    We do the Rajah Cash draft on Labor day (Sept 6) at 6PM eastern / 11PM London. My thought for this draft would be to do it earlier in that same weekend. Maybe the day prior, Sunday Sept 5, at 5PM or something.

    I'm personally pretty flexible though and can do it pretty much whenever. Maybe set it to something with the best chance of working for the group, and if a player can't make the draft time and therefore doesn't want to participate in the league, they can exit the league before we draft. Just don't set the draft time at the last minute because that is the recipe for low turnout and poor participation.
    Last edited by Fro; August 18th, 2021 at 3:19 PM.

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    I don't think I have anything particular going on that weekend actually so probably would work.

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    Fro, I could make that time work.

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    League is standard scoring and normal snake draft?

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    That weekend works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    League is standard scoring and normal snake draft?
    PPR, normal snake draft. Sunday Sept 5th at 5 would work. Appreciate the three UK-ers make thinkgs a little awkward. Your flexibility is appreciated. Once we have a time locked down I'll set draft order so everyone knows when they're drafting and can set a board if they can't make it.

    Looks like we need one more player still.

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    I am going to be at a wedding that day

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    I mean I can probably do it on my phone from the wedding if I had to

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    @Beefy, you’re now co-commish. Should give you all the power you need. Wouldn’t allow me to just hand over the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    I mean I can probably do it on my phone from the wedding if I had to
    Is there any easier time that day?

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    https://fantasy.espn.com/football/le...6-217359930b0c

    That's the invite link lads. If you can click it and sign up (other than Fro, BBF and hithit who are already in) that would be appreciated

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    Will need some time to decide if I keep the name that got me 3rd place last year or not...

    It is also really cool to see the previous year's team. I got DK Metcalf at a steal as my WR2 and apparently I needed Jalen Hurts on my team at the end of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Is there any easier time that day?
    Not really

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    Y’all still need 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Y’all still need 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post


    is this a no

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    I mean, I'm willing if you still need the extra

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    I'm not sure where our sign up list sits currently but from looking at the league, 8 people are currently registered.

    Beefy
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    Robotville Tigerbots (I don't know who this is - Js S)

    4 players still need to register.

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    seems the 4 needing to register are @Mazer @Defrost @Gary J and @Caito OR @kdestiny

    @Beefy - one thing to consider about the settings is keepers. it's currently set to 2 keepers. I don't care either way. Since we're kind of refreshing the league maybe I would suggest we draft freshly with no keepers, but maybe start them up again next year if you like? or keep them on this year and roll with it. up to you. but just decide one way or another because it does affect strategy during the season, and people need to set their keepers before the draft if we're keeping them.

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    Both of you?


    Sounds like a Double Doink situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Both of you?


    Sounds like a Double Doink situation.
    You're a double doink situation

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    Ok looks like I'm in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    seems the 4 needing to register are @Mazer @Defrost @Gary J and @Caito OR @kdestiny

    @Beefy - one thing to consider about the settings is keepers. it's currently set to 2 keepers. I don't care either way. Since we're kind of refreshing the league maybe I would suggest we draft freshly with no keepers, but maybe start them up again next year if you like? or keep them on this year and roll with it. up to you. but just decide one way or another because it does affect strategy during the season, and people need to set their keepers before the draft if we're keeping them.
    I'm not sure why it is set for keepers. We didn't have them last year. I'll change that now. For future seasons there will be one keeper allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Both of you?


    Sounds like a Double Doink situation.
    On the bright side, this is the first time since Drew Bledsoe was drafted that I wouldn't trade QBs with you.

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    Gary is just joining now so that brings us up to 12. I'll sort out draft order asap. Draft is still scheduled for Sunday 5th at 5pm Eastern time unless there is another time suggested that works better. Personally I'm pretty easy but probably needs to be no later than 5 for us Europeans.

    I've reduced the trade veto period to one day from two and raised the number of votes needed to veto to six. No keepers this year but one keeper is allowed for next year if people continue.
    Last edited by Beefy; August 26th, 2021 at 3:49 AM.

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    Also I resurrected the Eliminator group for anyone who wants to play:

    https://fantasy.espn.com/games/nfl-e...c-dc0a6e2f9483

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    FFS I can't even rig a draft order. I also spent five minutes copying the team names into a draft order generator without noticing that ESPN have a handy 'randomise order' button on the draft page. Anyway I've a video clip of the whole process to prove a lack of cheating which will be retained on file for future audits.

    I've copied the order below and it is in the app. I've put in brackets who I think the managers are but let me know if I've made a horrible mistake. If there are any legacy names here from the last year's league obviously please rename them.

    Pick # Team Name
    1 To the Mooney (kdestiny)
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    3 Hull Warhawks (Gary J)
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    10 Free Jack Bauer (Beefy)
    11 Team huettl (hithit)
    12 Dak's Shepherds (Fro)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    FFS I can't even rig a draft order. I also spent five minutes copying the team names into a draft order generator without noticing that ESPN have a handy 'randomise order' button on the draft page. Anyway I've a video clip of the whole process to prove a lack of cheating which will be retained on file for future audits.

    I've copied the order below and it is in the app. I've put in brackets who I think the managers are but let me know if I've made a horrible mistake. If there are any legacy names here from the last year's league obviously please rename them.

    Pick # Team Name
    1 To the Mooney (kdestiny)
    2 Cheltenham Town Crusaders (BBF)
    3 Hull Warhawks (Gary J)
    4 Sikeston Bulldogs (MTR)
    5 Try The Wine (Defrost)
    6 Time Splitters (Timesplitter)
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    I'll be needing to see that video and run analysis on it to make sure there was no video editing or deep fake software used.

    But in the meantime, I will let you know that the draft order on our league page is completely different than what you have posted above. On our league it says hithit is first and kdestiny is last.

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    Yeah, that's a big difference for me I would say.

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    That's a bit weird. I did set it. Anyway the order is as posted.

    EDIT - ok turns out you have to press 'save'. All done now.
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    I blocked off time on the family calendar for this so should be there minus some comes up last minute. Guess I need to do some research though since I don't really watch NFL. I do keep some tabs though so not going in completely blind. May or may not still be a bit bitter over Kroenke. Fuck him and the other owners for allowing him to move the team.

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    Making excuses already. let's make a bet payable at Full Gear.


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    I am down for that bet.

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    Its on. I love it.

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    Looking forward to this, see you all tomorrow

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    I know I could just google it, but can someone explain to a total novice how Fantasy Football works?

    I play American Fantasy sports so I get the concept of Fantasy in general. I mean more outside goals and assists, what else gets points in Football? Clean sheets right? Is that each player? Just defenders? How many people on a roster, how many start, what positions? I see people talk about "captaining" a player. I assume you get extra points?

    I am intrigued by the concept but the lack of easily countable statistics like we have in American sports makes it hard to compute how it would actually work in practice. Is there enough week to week variation to make it fun? Obviously the answer seems to be yes since it is everywhere but anyone who wants to explain it to a dummy, I would appreciate it.

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    So firstly this is an American Football fantasy league we're talking about here.

    Fantasy soccer leagues have been around for a few decades but the nature of the sport means they work slightly less well than they do for American football. But they generally work whereby each team has a set budget which they can use to buy players based on a market price established for each player. You then select a team of 11 players each week out of the squad that you have got. Teams in the same league can have the same players and leagues generally work by an accumulation of points as opposed to win-loss records after head-to-head games.

    That is how the biggest one over here, https://fantasy.premierleague.com/ works anyway.

    You generally get points for clean sheets, goals, assists, minus points for yellow and red cards etc. Some will have a 'captain' who can score double points and other wildcards which can be played over the season to give extra points.

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    What time is this shit?

    Figured it out and set an alarm
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    I hate seeing everyone's real names.

    I am not prepared to change my conceptualizations of people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I hate seeing everyone's real names.

    I am not prepared to change my conceptualizations of people
    This is why I’m keeping TimeSplitters as my team name for the time being.

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    @Fro looking forward to your team by team review.

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    I drafted a Miss. State player. I feel dirty. But I did grab two Ole Miss alum.

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    My team is probably pure grade a shit. I did no research and just picked randomly while also not paying much attention to my rostdr. I will have to figure out my defense situation when the saints have their bye week.

    Also I think the winner should get to rename the loser and change his avvy for a month. Everyone down for that?

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    I think that's a good bet. I'm in.

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    Good draft gents. We had a good turnout - maybe only 1 autodrafter.

    My team came out well enough. I'd say my biggest swing was taking Brady with Russ still on the board. Maybe would have gone with Russ in a cash league. We'll see how that turns out.

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    I have no idea if my team will be any good or not. Didn't really do research like I planned so was winging it during the draft. We shall see.

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    Fuck you @Beefy prepare to be beaten so bad your shit turns as blue as your font.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    Fuck you @Beefy prepare to be beaten so bad your shit turns as blue as your font.
    I'm playing Gary this week although I respect that you're getting your smack in early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I'm playing Gary this week although I respect that you're getting your smack in early.
    Oh I looked wrong I guess. Well good luck to you then. I see I got @BBF. I'm gonna steal this match like it's the royal rumble betting pool money from whenever the fuck that was.

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    *grumble* lots of points on my bench but I don't think it would have mattered.

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    I dropped my saints defense in place of maimi d. Figured green bay would score fairly decent while Miami had to deal with the debut of Mac. Was hoping for a breakdown of new England's offense but turns out the coin was flipped.

    I should have this game tonight as bbfs qb will be throwing non stop to my te and wr all night. He will be practically throwing the game to me.

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    Due to my victory over @BBF I hearby declare that the whatsapp army be renamed bbf's mum stinky vay Jay Jay. Please make this happen @kdestiny @Mazer.

    As for @Jarrod1983 when I defeat you this week you are to drop the numerals from your name for eva!

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    Not me virm.

    Numerals will have to stay.

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    Changing a name because of a week one win is a wild flex, virm. Keep it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    Not me virm.

    Numerals will have to stay.

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    My team is excellent.

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    I feel like my team is excellent but it didn't do me any good this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    Not me virm.

    Numerals will have to stay.
    Feeling spicy? Any bets on our game tomorrow?

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    I won last week with a team I drafted while driving to Men's Warehouse to buy a shirt at 5PM for a wedding that started at 6PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    I won last week with a team I drafted while driving to Men's Warehouse to buy a shirt at 5PM for a wedding that started at 6PM.
    What you want, a pretzel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    What you want, a pretzel?
    Fucking always

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    Sounds pretty good actually

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    I could go for a pretzel.

    Virms, at the Royal Rumble, you buying the first round of pretzels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I could go for a pretzel.

    Virms, at the Royal Rumble, you buying the first round of pretzels?
    Sure, why not.

    I notice Jared is hiding the fuck.

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    Just need Aaron Rodgers to get 3.6 points to secure the win.

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    Well Liberalville, its all down to Davante Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Well Liberalville, its all down to Davante Adams.
    I would easily have this win if I would have left marquise brown in but all the reports read like he needed to be put down.

    And it's really not up to Adam's. It's up to how big of a bitch Rodgers wants to be this week.

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    I'm completely pulling for Rodgers' to have a tantrum.

    But every time I bet on that, fantasy, real game, or even spiritually he shits from Tantrum mode to Fuck You mode, and I get heartbroken.

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