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    Just kidding

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    Vote Caito

    for his many bad takes.

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    Traxx (1) -Dreyski
    Mikey (1) -Jarrod
    Dreyski (1) -Psych
    Badger (1) -Rando
    Jarrod (2) -Trax, Bert
    Psych (1)-Hero
    Rando (1) -Badger
    Caito (1)- Pabs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
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    for his many bad takes.
    Damn, was hoping I'd be the first to do that!

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    Also

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    If I’m scum, I try to get their godfather voted, in the hopes he is investigated, cleared and saved.

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    Oh……. i see what’s happening here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    TraXX and Bert pull scum again?

    Since it's a poisoning kind of day how bout some Alice.



    Total RNG.

    I'm totally up for changing my vote as the day goes on based on feeling though. Or maybe more RNG.

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    Vote: King Diamond

    Either he's scum or a mentally weak willed townie who'll fold after the first encounter with adversity. Either way I don't want him on my team.

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    Traxx (1) -Dreyski
    Mikey (1) -Jarrod
    Badger (1) -Rando
    Jarrod (2) -Trax, Bert
    Psych (1)-Hero
    Rando (1) -Badger
    Caito (4)- Pabs, Psych, Kdestiny, cwe
    KingD (1)-Kangus

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangus View Post
    Vote: King Diamond

    Either he's scum or a mentally weak willed townie who'll fold after the first encounter with adversity. Either way I don't want him on my team.
    I vote to let the Diamond shine

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    Diamonds are forever.


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    Traxx (1) -Dreyski
    Mikey (1) -Jarrod
    Badger (1) -Rando
    Jarrod (2) -Trax, Bert
    Psych (1)-Hero
    Rando (1) -Badger
    Caito (4)- Pabs, Psych, Kdestiny, cwe
    KingD (1)-Kangus


    Diamond continues to shine (1) - Psycho

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangus View Post
    Vote: King Diamond

    Either he's scum or a mentally weak willed townie who'll fold after the first encounter with adversity. Either way I don't want him on my team.
    Kangus isnt my biggest fan it would seem.

    Look I've tried my best at these games, you're right what you've said tbf I don't really get the game sometimes, I just become filler I guess.

    But hey I still join and I try my best to play along, so yeah...thanks Kangy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Diamond View Post
    Kangus isnt my biggest fan it would seem.

    Look I've tried my best at these games, you're right what you've said tbf I don't really get the game sometimes, I just become filler I guess.

    But hey I still join and I try my best to play along, so yeah...thanks Kangy.
    It's supposed to be fun. Sometimes I'm still I the dark too but if you enjoy it and have fun then dam the man, save the Empire and continue to do your thing.

    If it didn't go to a No decision in whatever Day phase it was last game you were all set to Robot Face study that lynch and you would have had some juicy info last game. It's all how the chips fall.

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    Newbie killing meme

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Diamond View Post
    Kangus isnt my biggest fan it would seem.

    Look I've tried my best at these games, you're right what you've said tbf I don't really get the game sometimes, I just become filler I guess.

    But hey I still join and I try my best to play along, so yeah...thanks Kangy.
    This game forces everyone, at some point, to defend themselves. Last game it was your turn and you ended that fight early by voting for yourself. Sometimes you're going to be lynched and there isn't much you can do about it. But don't ever cheat yourself on effort even if the walls are closing in.

    Unvote

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    Kangus and KD clearly scum together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Kangus and KD clearly scum together
    I also was getting this vibe, before kangus even unvoted.

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    Scum kangus is due to rear his face again.

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    I am kind of due, aren't I? I haven't been scum since Super Captain N in January.

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    vote kangus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_Jones View Post
    Thanks! I always need a bit of time between these mafia games
    Unvote.

    You missed some good stuff. Mazer had a awesome game featuring Rajah Mafia players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    As an additional note, voting brings you closer to the conflict and may increase your chance of possessing the Weather Machine Controller. No further clarification on this particular item will be provided at this time.

    BEGIN DAY 1
    Vote Caito.

    Not sure if we need to be on the Poison train to gain control of the Weather Machine Controller but I'm thinking the less chance of Scum getting this the better.

    We can cop Caito and see if he's worth saving on Day 2.

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    Traxx (1) -Dreyski
    Badger (1) -Rando
    Jarrod (1) -Bert
    Psych (1)-Hero
    Rando (1) -Badger
    Caito (5)- Pabs, Psych, Kdestiny, cwe, jarrod
    morri (1)-traxx
    kangus (1) - morri

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    Traxx (1) -Dreyski
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    Psych (1)-Hero
    Rando (1) -Badger
    Caito (5)- Pabs, Psych, Kdestiny, cwe, jarrod
    morri (1)-traxx
    kangus (2) - morri, caito

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    I think there's a lot of meat in Caito vs. kangus wagons

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    Is there really though?

    I truly don't see how this doesn't become a Poison Day 1 Save Day 2 barring getting night info on someone else and even then it might be worth saving the poisoned person and then lynching the discovered person on Day 3.

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    It's a new mechanic though, so I could be reading it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Is there really though?

    I truly don't see how this doesn't become a Poison Day 1 Save Day 2 barring getting night info on someone else and even then it might be worth saving the poisoned person and then lynching the discovered person on Day 3.
    A lynch is happening one way or another unless we tie, which is going to make things more complicated than necessary. So regardless of whether they get saved tomorrow or not, I would rather have competitive wagons we can look back on later

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    We really should take the person who believe the most to be the bad guy and we should hang him. Make sure the rope is thick as to ensure it doesn't break when the chair is kicked out underneath the scummy individual. Everyone must be present for the hanging, in order to give the message to the evildoers in the audience that this fate is awaiting them. This will guarantee a quick and speedy victory for town.

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    Vote No Lynch

    Just get things moving.

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    No lynch is not an option. Keep up, lad.

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    Damn, thought I could skip this day one nonsense. I’ll have to read in the morning

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    I want to jump around a bit. But I love the thought of voting not to heal Caito tomorrow and getting to (sort of) lynch him twice in one game.

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    If TimeSplitter isn't reading what's going on that kind of sets off alarm bells for me.

    That's mostly what I did last game when I was scum.

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    vote kangus

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    When we are nearing crunch time we would be wise to avoid a situation where we have 3 trains containing 4 or so people. Even if one of those trains contain scum they'll be able to easily manipulate the votes to ensure a townie gains the majority and thus is poisoned.

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    And those three people on that train then have a giant target on their head. I say keep it spread out and let the scum expose themselves. I'll get the popcorn ready.

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    kangus is probably town

    Vote Caito

    It's cozy

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    That's problematic as well, Randolph, because a) one of the three trains needs to be scum in order for what you are saying to hold water. If all three are town then scum won't care which person is poisoned and they'll strategically spread out their votes. B) Even if one of the trains happens to be scum we'll have to identify the correct train and apply enough pressure for scum to react. Finally, if scum are on the successful lynch it won't be three of them, it'll be one. Just enough of a presence to influence the result.

    We should probably pick two people and stack enough votes to lessen the impact of strategic voting.

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    Kangus never played that soft with me. With that said,
    unvote.

    Vote Timesplitter.

    Though TraXX is still on my radar.

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    vote timesplitter

    Day one lynch votes make me feel sad.

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    Psych (1)-Hero
    Caito (5)- Pabs, Psych, Kdestiny, cwe, jarrod
    morri (1)-traxx
    kangus (2) - morri, caito
    timesplitter (4)-Bert, Badger, dreyski, rando

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    Little less than 24 hours remaining.

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    I don’t wanna be poisoned.

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    vote timesplitter

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    I'm tempted to switch just because of the audacity to put a no lynch in if I couldn't.

    I honestly hate this phase so much.

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    Let's make Pablo more uncomfortable

    UNVOTE

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    Vote caito

    I want balance

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    It's not making me uncomfortable. I just hate that the odds are both being town. The possibility of one or both of them being power roles. But we are looking at how the votes go from one to the other for "INFO".

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    Current Non-Voting: 5
    Last edited by Mazer; July 30th, 2021 at 4:51 PM.

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    Unvote.

    Vote TimeSplitter.

    Let's just get on with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Let's make Pablo more uncomfortable

    UNVOTE

    Vote TimeSplitter
    I agree

    Vote Pablo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    It's not making me uncomfortable. I just hate that the odds are both being town. The possibility of one or both of them being power roles. But we are looking at how the votes go from one to the other for "INFO".
    It's really glorious honestly

    And we even have a chance to heal(though you know I'm gonna argue against it).

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    Anything is a crapshoot this early in the game. If you have to shoot someone, it's always going to be risky on day one.

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    I''m not going to rush things through by switching, because there's clearly a punishment for not voting.

    Mazer is even being kind enough to show us that 6 people need to vote.

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    Now listen, I know how absolutely ironic this is going to sound as I've not voted but I think we should unvote one of the trains and select a current non-voter instead. Surely there is at least one scum who hasn't committed yet, right? If the answer is yes then we would have slightly better odds of catching one than our current standing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangus View Post
    Now listen, I know how absolutely ironic this is going to sound as I've not voted but I think we should unvote one of the trains and select a current non-voter instead. Surely there is at least one scum who hasn't committed yet, right? If the answer is yes then we would have slightly better odds of catching one than our current standing.
    You, your best pal King Diamond, and TimeSplitter are the current people not voting if my record is accurate.

    So there's already a train on a non-voter.

    Also, Mazer listed 13 people voting but said 6 people need to vote which would be 19 when we have 17 players signed up.

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    Vote Caito

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    You, your best pal King Diamond, and TimeSplitter are the current people not voting if my record is accurate.

    So there's already a train on a non-voter.

    Also, Mazer listed 13 people voting but said 6 people need to vote which would be 19 when we have 17 players signed up.

    Well Mazer listed 12 and said 6 non-voters for 18 so I assume he meant 5 non-voters. Not counting T/S who just voted and is under enormous pressure, I think my point is valid.

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    Psych (1)-Hero
    Caito (4)- Pabs, Kdestiny, cwe, rando, ts
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    timesplitter (7)-Bert, Badger, dreyski, caito, morri, psych,caito
    Pablo (1)-Mikey


    Character names are only used for color.

    Handy reached out for the Control, only to have it knocked out his.....hands....by Kim. From there the groups continued to fight for control of.....the controller. The controller bounced from hand to hand but the congestion of the crowds around the hottest parts of the battlefield made it difficult for the other All-Stars and Evildoers to try to get their hands on it.

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    vote caito

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert;[URL="tel:8243940"
    8243940[/URL]]
    Also, Mazer listed 13 people voting but said 6 people need to vote which would be 19 when we have 17 players signed up.
    I really hope the weather machine is not a character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyski View Post
    I really hope the weather machine is not a character.
    Like Focus Groups?

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    Caito (5)- Pabs, Kdestiny, cwe, rando, ts, hero
    morri (1)-traxx
    timesplitter (8)-Bert, Badger, dreyski, caito, morri, psych, jarrod, caito
    Pablo (1)-Mikey
    Last edited by Mazer; July 30th, 2021 at 5:53 PM.

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    You missed my TS vote Mazer. Post #161. My vote goes after Psycho's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Sorry. Multi-tasking today.

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    Mazer what could possibly be more important than running a message board based mafia game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyski View Post
    I really hope the weather machine is not a character.
    Did you have trouble with inanimate objects as characters?

    I think one of my favorite bits was Night 2 when Teela Dr.s Pablo.

    Teela was venturing around the Jungle when she came across Pablo Diablo. Teela decided she needed to stay put with Pablo for the Night, even though she really sensed danger in that area now. This was the first time, in a long time, Teela felt like she could use some back up. Even if it was wimpy Prince Adam and Cringer. Her fears seemed amified in her mind like never before.

    "I won't allow the Jungle to mess with my mind!" Teela says looking at Pablo.

    In my brain I was writing it like the Book was controlling her fear and maybe driving her a bit mad. I obviously couldn't go crazy with it but wanted to leave a little hint.

    I think if Mazer has it as a character then we should prepare for some mind fuckery but Mazer also said "As an additional note, voting brings you closer to the conflict and may increase your chance of possessing the Weather Machine Controller. No further clarification on this particular item will be provided at this time." which I take as someone will gain control of the item after we poison or maybe after N1. Sort of like my Koopa Dungeon key that was being passed around in Super Captain N.

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    Hey there TimeSplitter, are you interested in changing the narrative at all? Because currently you're in a pressing situation and time's a tickin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangus View Post
    Hey there TimeSplitter, are you interested in changing the narrative at all? Because currently you're in a pressing situation and time's a tickin'.
    Are you a fan of EC3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Are you a fan of EC3?
    What's an EC3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangus View Post
    What's an EC3?
    A wrassler. He talks a lot about controlling your narrative. Do you not watch any wrestling anymore?

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    Well I watched the Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, and that's about it this year! I keep track of some of the news and notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangus View Post
    Well I watched the Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, and that's about it this year! I keep track of some of the news and notes.
    Are you going to watch CM Punk debut at AEW?

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    I will not. I've only seen a very limited selection of AEW. I saw the clip from the event where the commentary team explained with frenzied vigour that the ring was about to explode and then it went *pew* *pew* and everyone was okay.

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    Vote: Caito


    There is very little to go on here but not one person, including TimeSplitter himself, has exerted even the smallest amount of effort to dissuade people from voting T/S. If he were scum, I think there would be some hint of a play in this situation. 'Well, Timesplitter is going to be poisoned and we'll just sit quietly and let that happen.' Does that sound like scum behaviour to you, especially on day one?

    Caito isn't an obvious choice but we have less than 6 hours and a decision needs to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Current Voting

    Psych (1)-Hero
    Caito (4)- Pabs, Kdestiny, cwe, jarrod, rando
    morri (1)-traxx
    timesplitter (6)-Bert, Badger, dreyski, caito, morri, psych
    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Current Voting

    Psych (1)-Hero
    Caito (4)- Pabs, Kdestiny, cwe, rando, ts
    morri (1)-traxx
    timesplitter (7)-Bert, Badger, dreyski, caito, morri, psych,caito
    Pablo (1)-Mikey
    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Current Voting

    Caito (5)- Pabs, Kdestiny, cwe, rando, ts, hero
    morri (1)-traxx
    timesplitter (8)-Bert, Badger, dreyski, caito, morri, psych, jarrod, caito
    Pablo (1)-Mikey
    Is Caito meant to have two votes? It's been shown twice but no-one else has picked up on it.

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    The votes on Caito also don't add up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangus View Post
    Hey there TimeSplitter, are you interested in changing the narrative at all? Because currently you're in a pressing situation and time's a tickin'.
    I simply did not read the day one rules. I usually no lynch day one so I thought it safe to do so here. I understand the votes, but a town is guaranteed gone day 2 if this goes through

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyski View Post
    Is Caito meant to have two votes? It's been shown twice but no-one else has picked up on it.
    No

    I likely made a copy error and carried it over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangus View Post
    Vote: Caito


    There is very little to go on here but not one person, including TimeSplitter himself, has exerted even the smallest amount of effort to dissuade people from voting T/S. If he were scum, I think there would be some hint of a play in this situation. 'Well, Timesplitter is going to be poisoned and we'll just sit quietly and let that happen.' Does that sound like scum behaviour to you, especially on day one?

    Caito isn't an obvious choice but we have less than 6 hours and a decision needs to be made.
    If TS is scum would he go balls out trying to change things around or would the better play be get poisoned and hopefully be cured Day 2. Scum isn't going to draw attention to this Day 1. If we hit scum with poison I think they'd be more likely to sit and take it.

    Also, I wouldn't expect Scum to try to argue against it because, if TS pops red, everyone will be looking at who was defending TS.

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    Going through the votes from my error yesterday right now.

    Will post updated shortly

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    Caito (7)- Pabs, Kdestiny, cwe, rando, ts, hero, kangus
    morri (1)-traxx
    timesplitter (7)-Bert, Badger, dreyski, caito, morri, psych, jarrod
    Pabs - Mikey


    I originally copied Jarrod's vote wrong, and when he mentioned it, I added but missed deleting the wrong copy

    This should be accurate.

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    Dont need a tie

    Unvote

    Vote Badger

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    Caito (6)- Pabs, Kdestiny, cwe, ts, hero, kangus
    morri (1)-traxx
    timesplitter (7)-Bert, Badger, dreyski, caito, morri, psych, jarrod
    Pabs (1)- Mikey
    Badger (1)-Rando

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Caito (6)- Pabs, Kdestiny, cwe, ts, hero, kangus
    morri (1)-traxx
    timesplitter (7)-Bert, Badger, dreyski, caito, morri, psych, jarrod
    Pabs (1)- Mikey
    Badger (1)-Rando
    Time left?

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