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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    Easy schedule, but the Bengals at 3-1 is a sure sign of the apocalypse.

    I think people are being too rough on some of the winless and one win teams, especially the Jags. Urban is probably going to fail, but people are shitting all over a team that shouldn't be expected to do anything in year one. People forget that rebuilds usually take longer than 3 or 4 games.
    Good topic there.

    I think the Vikings are a truly dangerous one win team. Two heart breaker losses to Arizona and the Bengals and an absolute ass stomping of the Seahawks.

    The real surprise one win team is of course KC but I don't think anyone expects them to stay at the bottom of the division long. Though they do have a pretty tough looking schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, Kendrick Lamar and Mary J Blige are the Super Bowl halftime show this year. Awesome.
    Don't think I've looked forward to a halftime show this much since...maybe Prince? This is going to be incredible.

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    I'm excited for The Return, but I really would like the Pats to make it a game so it's a memorable moment not just in the lead-up and handshakes but on the field as well. I mean if Brady has the ball with a chance to win the game at the end, in Foxboro with the home crowd roaring, that would be a moment for the ages. The Bucs will probably roll, but maybe the Pats offense can get something going versus what has been so far a historically bad Bucs passing D.

    Gronk listed as doubtful (too bad for him, but good for the Pats). AB is back though, so Brady will have his top 3 receivers. 7 point spread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I'm excited for The Return, but I really would like the Pats to make it a game so it's a memorable moment not just in the lead-up and handshakes but on the field as well. I mean if Brady has the ball with a chance to win the game at the end, in Foxboro with the home crowd roaring, that would be a moment for the ages. The Bucs will probably roll, but maybe the Pats offense can get something going versus what has been so far a historically bad Bucs passing D.

    Gronk listed as doubtful (too bad for him, but good for the Pats). AB is back though, so Brady will have his top 3 receivers. 7 point spread.
    I have to feel like the patriots would have dropped two safeties back or something to totally shut Gronk down if he had been able to play. I mean no way you let Brady AND Gronk dance all over your end zone. That would be fucking demoralizing.

    I want it to be a good game but I feel like it's going to be like the Super Bowl. Great narrative. Shitty game.

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    Shit.

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    SHIT SHIT SHIT.

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    At least the rest of the AFC South is still trash.

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    Well, that just killed Caito's taunting text game

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    2 doinks is still worse in a playoff game than 1 doink is in a regular season. I lost a lot of money last night, but looking at the game overall and towards the future, I’m ok with how it went.

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    It was a good game last night. Tough to end it on a doink. I thought Bill should have gone for it on 4th but it wasn't an egregious decision. Folk did have the leg for it, just missed left slightly. I'm happy the Pats made it a game, but fuck, we should have had the win. Jones almost threw the game away with a bad pick near the end which was thankfully dropped, but otherwise he is still looking very good for a rookie.

    Good drama. I presume the TV numbers will be huge. I thought Pats fans in the stadium handled it perfectly, cheering Brady when he came onto the field but booing him when he came out for his first series.

    Brady passing Brees for most passing yards all time was awkward because that pass was literally right on the line. First they said he was a yard short of the record, then they said he tied it, then they said he passed it by 1 yard, all based on where the refs spotted it. So that moment got kind of ruined, but oh well. Brady now has all the records in both the regular season and postseason, except regular season completions where he should pass Brees later this year.

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    I hadn't realized Folk had been so automatic, setting the team consecutive FG completed streak before that doink. Considering the two immediate predecessors, Vinatieri and Gostowski were both other-worldly kickers.

    The Patriots suprised me by making the game competitive, despite the fact that they have absolutely no running game. Trent Brown's return will help, but they clearly need to do some work there.

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    I still think the Patriots should have gone for it. Oh well. The Bucs have some serious secondary issues they're going to be dealing with for a bit. Doesn't help (indirectly) that their DL is so stout against the run.

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    I thought Urban Meyer would make it until season three, but this train wreck might not last through one.

    Sometime in January 2022: “Urban Meyer has stepped away from the Jacksonville Jaguars, citing unknown health concerns.”

    PS. This Herbert kid is legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson View Post
    I thought Urban Meyer would make it until season three, but this train wreck might not last through one.

    Sometime in January 2022: “Urban Meyer has stepped away from the Jacksonville Jaguars, citing unknown health concerns.”

    PS. This Herbert kid is legit.
    Fuck yeah it might.

    And fuck yeah he is.

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    Literally every team's fans must be pissed it only took a 2023 6th round pick to get Gilmore.

    Great trade for Panthers.

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    The Pats needed to get Collins back a third time so they will have a chance at a running game. Jackson is showing he is adequate at corner so Stephon became expendable.

    Sorry to see Gilmore gone, but its understandable from the Pats point of view. Good job on them getting at least something in return, and keeping him away from a few teams closer to contending.

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    And keeping him out of conference

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    Future AFC title game right here boys. This is gonna be sick.

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    Watching that shithead Urban Meyer squirm uncomfortably in the spotlight is particularly enjoyable. He totally bounces after this season, eh?

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    I don't think he has the spine to stay for a whole season of this.

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    The Bills are eating KC's lunch and making them watch.

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    These idiotic refs are making this game unwatchable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    These idiotic refs are making this game unwatchable...
    Just waiting for one to throw a flag on another ref for improper flag throwing technique.

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    Josh Allen with that beard looks like Chris Pratt's little brother.

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    Lol The Bills are gonna fucking kill us next week. It's gonna be fucking horrific.

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    Buffalo is clearly the toast of the AFC, with maybe the Chargers sitting comfortably at #2. They have both beaten good teams, but the Chargers and Herbert are just taking control of their destiny.

    Cincy deserves credit for their close game to the Pack and they are much better this year. A wildcard playoff game for them is not out of the question. Cleveland scares the hell out of me and I wouldn't bet on their playoff chances. Mayfield is dogshit right now.

    NFC has the overall best talent. Tampa and the Pack are back to form, Dallas is digustingly in charge of the East, and the Cardinals are getting it done in the West. Seattle in the short-term future is fucked. Watching Stafford succeed in LA is hard to watch, but like Verlander, I will support him.

    The NFL is more interesting with traditionally terrible teams like the Bills and Cardinals at the top of their conferences. It's like having college football become watchable again now that there is an actual chance that Alabama or Clemson might not be in the playoffs.

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    You HAVE to wonder if maybe losing to Tampa so soundly in the Super Bowl did something to the Cheifs mojo.

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    It's always deeper than that. KC's defense is terrible and won't stop any decent team's offense at this rate. They also have been around long enough for opponent's to adjust to and maybe some of their best strategies have been figured out. Their offensive line is completely overhauled with free agents and rookies, so that makes things tougher on Mahomes. The receivers are dropping balls and not opening up the field as much as they should, so Mahomes has been having to put these games on his shoulders. That's tough for a guy who has seen nothing but success in the NFL, but he's very talented and should reign in this team sooner or later. I just don't believe it will be enough to overcome the Bills or Chargers, and especially if that dogshit defense doesn't improve.

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    Gruden out in Vegas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    Gruden out in Vegas.
    Will anyone be tone deaf enough to give him any kind of job now? HAHAHA overrated pos....oh shit Tenn is gonna hire him aren't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    Gruden out in Vegas.
    Whoa.

    I guess Chucky’s going to have to sit at home and collect the rest of his $60M…

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    I haven't read any of the texts or messages he sent but it must have been really bad for the tide to turn against him so quick. Message for everybody in the future: do not post any homophobic, sexist, or racist jokes or comments on anything that leaves a permanent record. A lot of careers have been destroyed because of that. Of course, you can just decide to post stuff that's not homophobic, sexist, or racist. Much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson View Post
    Whoa.

    I guess Chucky’s going to have to sit at home and collect the rest of his $60M…
    I can't imagine the remainder of his contract doesn't get voided due to the reasoning for his resignation.

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    The Gruden emails are despicable and he deserves to be out. Adios.

    I have no issue with how the emails were uncovered. Many or most of the ones revealed by the NY Times were to Bruce Allen on his NFL email account, and they were discovered as part of the WFT investigation. Gruden wouldn't have been exposed without that investigation so he caught a ricochet shot here, but boo fucking woo. These were emails with someone in the league, and they are quite bad. In another world where Gruden's emails were sent to his non-NFL-affiliated buddies and were exposed by a hacker, I would feel conflicted about privacy and free speech issues, but not in this case.

    The only part of this which feels dirty (aside from Gruden's emails) is how the NFL went about it. Did Goodell really just get the report on these emails within the past 2 weeks even though the WFT punishment was handed out on July 1? And the disparity between how much the NFL protected Dan Snyder in their findings (they basically let him off the hook and kept everything concealed) versus now exposing Gruden is yet another example of the league doing whatever the hell they want to do. They decided to expose Gruden, okay that's great and I'm glad they did. But it's the people they aren't exposing (mainly Dan Snyder but also who knows who else) that makes it feel gross. How much else are they sitting on? (Answer: tons more). And even the way they leaked it to the NY Times is icky. Better that than keeping it under wraps, but it feels like a very selective leak and backhanded way of getting him out. To my knowledge, it's not as if the Times has access of to all 650,000 emails from the investigation. Only the ones they were given.

    Of course this is what we know to expect from the NFL so it's nothing new. I will add that this does give me a nugget of appreciation for how hard Goodell's job is. Say he does push for women's referees or for Michael Sam to be drafted or for concussion protocols... these are the things many people in the NFL are saying about it behind closed doors. Gruden is not alone in his sentiments - many of the owners probably share his point of view, even if their emails are protected and his are not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    I can't imagine the remainder of his contract doesn't get voided due to the reasoning for his resignation.
    Right, I presume his salary will halt immediately. It's possible he and the team worked out a deal of some sort, but he resigned. He wasn't fired. If they did work a deal, I imagine it would be for a small portion of his remaining contract.

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    The emails need to be made public, and the other recipients need to be called out for condoning that bullshit. The league is protecting some of their old white men.

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    Yeah, the NFL needs to release the results of the full WFT investigation. Has there also been any news about the WFT trainer and the FBI yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    You HAVE to wonder if maybe losing to Tampa so soundly in the Super Bowl did something to the Cheifs mojo.
    I don't think that's it. Maybe a malaise but I don't think they were ruined by that.

    Mahomes is just playing looser and there's been some fluky turnovers. Teams that have the personnel are able to scheme against them defensively and KC...doesn't take the easy option. The opposition doesn't want to get blown up by big plays so KC is being dared to just take the simple stuff with run plays or short passes. Instead of going with the fundamental move, KC gets frantic and tries to do too much.

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    The Chiefs will be just fine. As much as I'd like to hop on the Chiefs-are-not-that-good-anymore bandwagon, they've had a tough schedule. Browns, Ravens, Chargers and Bills are all very good, and even the Eagles are not bad. Their schedule will get easier, they'll be in the playoffs, and their offense barring injury will still be top notch. Their defense possibly sucking is their concern, but again it might not be as bad as it looks given who they've played. Even if their defense does suck, Mahomes can potentially still lead a sucky defense to the SB.

    I've seen some people say they'll struggle to make the playoffs. Get real. They will overcome a 2-3 start with ease and be there in the postseason and no one will want to face them.

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    Unless the Chargers fall flat on their face, which is possible but not looking likely, the Chiefs will be an extremely tough out for a division winner. They can still battle against the top teams but their margin for error is narrowing.

    The Chiefs are fine operating under the presumption their defense stinks but it becomes much more difficult if these turnovers continue. The Hill turnover on Sunday was the pivotal one because the game got out of hand at that point. A fair amount of these turnovers are ones that are bouncing off hands and then the opposition is getting them. Fluky, but they need to be okay just running the ball a bit. That will probably do a bit of good for their OL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    Yeah, the NFL needs to release the results of the full WFT investigation. Has there also been any news about the WFT trainer and the FBI yet?

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    That is a nice statement. I'm sure it'll have zero effect on the league, but it's nice.

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    I don't think KC is suddenly worse. If anything the o line is better. But I do think that Tampa gave the league a blueprint to follow and they are obsessed with proving that they can win without changing strategy. This falls on the staff not the players.

    I fully expect them to wake up this coming week. The Bills must have shown them that going for 6 on every play just doesn't work anymore.
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    Ertz traded to Arizona. Good trade for them and Ertz.

    Tampa has a very good chance or running it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    Ertz traded to Arizona. Good trade for them and Ertz.

    Tampa has a very good chance or running it back.
    Tampa’s defense is way too hurt right now. If the playoffs started now they wouldn’t win. But.. their schedule is very soft and hopefully 2 months from now they will have gotten key secondary guys back. So I do agree, but right now they’re not quite a championship caliber team. Thankfully they don’t need to be one yet.

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    Yeah Tampa should win the next few games fairly easily. Plus they will be getting their starting safety back and they have the trade deadline to make a move for a corner if they want to. Rams, Bucs, Cowboys, Packers and Cardinals are the sure 5 playoff teams. The last two wildcard spots are wide open. You could argue Saints, Vikings, Niners, Bears or even an NFC east team to sneak in.

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    Last year's sb teams cannot play defense to save their lives right now.

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    Someone check in on caito.

    He may have gone into cardiac arrest.

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    The Bears still suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    The Bears still suck.
    Maybe an ownership change will do them some good.

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    I see what you did there.


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