Did pretty well last game. Scum tend to try to hide in the woodworkOriginally Posted by CWE
Is the whole BBF logic he is inactive? Interesting a train got so high on that alone.
Did pretty well last game. Scum tend to try to hide in the woodworkIs the whole BBF logic he is inactive? Interesting a train got so high on that alone.
Eh. Pretty sure I've worked out the pattern now.
90 minutes.
Slept on this a bit and was kinda hoping BBF would defend himself more but now beginning to doubt him.
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Vote BBF
we've seen two red mafia, we got a yellow on the board, we're down three and heading into a night phase, and so far they've killed both nights. i dont feel good about no action this day phase, and bbf's defense wasnt exactly inspiring, so...
vote bbf.
Miiiiiistaaaaaaaaaake
Day 3
Badger: -1 (-Grim)
BBF: 11 (Grim, PG, virms, Psycho, Randolph, Traxx, King Diamond, kdestiny, Pablo, Badger, Morrison)
Timesplitter: 1 (Grim)
Mazer: 1 (CWE)
Traxx: 4 (Staccy, kangus, Mazer, JRod)
"Miiiiiistaaaaaaaaaake," cried BBF, as the masses surrounded him. "Miiiiiistaaaaaaaaaake!"
Mason Baker fell down under the weight of the group, never to be seen again.
BBF has been lynched. He was Mason Baker, JOAT.
1.Kangus
2. Kdestiny
3. morrison
4. JP
5. Peter Griffin
6. Stan Accy
7. CWE
8. Pablo
9. Mazer
10. Badger
11. Bert - Heath Pauley JOAT
12. TraXX
13. Knee
14. Simon
15. Jarrod1983
16. Psycho666Soldier
17. TimeSplitter
18. King Diamond
19. BBF - Mason Baker, JOAT
20. HFR - Rocket J, RB/mason
21. Randolph
22. virms
23. Jordo - Michael, goon
24. Caito - James Reeves, EN Watcher
It is now night 3. Have at it. 24 hours etc.
Waiting on 3.
Slow pokes.
Ladies like that more than quick fucks.
So I've heard.
Ha heterosexual jokes!
Waiting on one.
Was it a joke or an experience based observation?
Song popped in my head when I read this.
Night 3
JP is cornered by Luca. He fights but, before too long, he has literal concrete shoes and is thrown off a bridge into the deep water.
Nick Saunders pulls his car up outside Jarrod's house. He looks over at his passenger seat, an assortment of weaons within reach in case someone comes a-knocking.
virms opens his letter box. Inside awaits a summons, written in the hand of Tom, setting his schedule for him and ruining any plans he may have had. As he walks back to his house, up pulls the car from the hospital. Doctor Spivey is making a house call.
A bright yellow school bus pulls up with Isaac Ponds, in his best Ms. Crabtree cosplay, complete with a little bird living in his hair. "GET ON THE BUS, CHILDREN" he screams at Psycho, CWE, Pablo and Knee.
Bullwinkle runs at full speed, Mazer in his sights, and drops a shoulder into his midrift, knocking the wind out of him. "And stay down!" he shouts before landing a knock out blow on his head.
Denso Haro watches his screen intently, keeping an eye on JP. The tracking software works perfectly!
JP struggles against the blocks... and they begin to dissolve. Who uses quick set cement and then gets it wet? But he won't survive another attack like that again. He wearily drags himself to shore.
CWE looks up as his taxi arrives at the hotel. He puts his tablet away, pays the driver and drags his luggage into the foyer. "Ahhh, a new guest. How delightful." Herman Mudgett smiles. "Welcome to The Murder Castle"
CWE has been killed. He was Denso Haro, ON Tracker.
1.Kangus
2. Kdestiny
3. morrison
4. JP
5. Peter Griffin
6. Stan Accy
7. CWE - Denso Haro, ON Tracker
8. Pablo
9. Mazer
10. Badger
11. Bert - Heath Pauley JOAT
12. TraXX
13. Knee
14. Simon
15. Jarrod1983
16. Psycho666Soldier
17. TimeSplitter
18. King Diamond
19. BBF - Mason Baker, JOAT
20. HFR - Rocket J, RB/mason
21. Randolph
22. virms
23. Jordo - Michael, goon
24. Caito - James Reeves, EN Watcher
@Simon
Again, not pleased.
This is now permanent.
Simon: 1 (Grim)
Pleased.
virms: -1 (Grim)
With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. You have 36 hours.
I have to say Badger you flipping to BBF late in the last phase made me wonder a bit.
Thoughts on my suspicion?
I'm kinda confused about what happened with JP. It seems he was targeted for a kill, but somehow saved? Maybe the flavor insinuates bulletproof. Because I don't see how a tracker would save him.
Well BBF’s defense wasn’t that great so in the end I tried to act in the best interest for town and go for the lynch. Obviously that failed so can only apologise. I was on the Jordo lynch eventually following the info for the successful lynch. Happy that JP managed to survive though, could use his voice. Guessing one-shot bulletproof?
What I am far more concerned about is that is now virm, PG, Pablo, Knee and CWE (now deceased) appear to possibly have been recruited by Isaac if I’m reading that write-up correctly.
I was thinking a 1x bulletproof. Thats how I read the "he won't survive another attack like that again" line.
I'd need to look at the votes closer. I didn't get the chance to sit down with the game last night like I hoped and only just now got my spreadsheet filled out. Only thing that makes me hesitate on Badger is he is crossed off two of the known scum roles(though I don't think they're the only two remaining).
Based on my spreadsheet, we can find Luca and Tom within {PG, Stan, Pablo, TraXX, Knee, Simon, Jarrod, Randolph}. I feel pretty good about those who opted to vote TraXX instead of BBF, and if I consider my previous opinions on PG and Stan, I could drop that down to {Pablo, TraXX, Knee, Simon, Randolph}. All of those people can also be Herman, who is looking strongly like an SK.
With that in mind, I wouldn't be against picking the TraXX train back up as a starting point.
EBWOP forgot to mention Psycho. This Isaac I’m not liking.
Vote TraXX
But I'm definitely open to suggestions
Yeah Isaac seems to be causing trouble. We're not doing great so we need to get this phase right.
Also worth noting that Morrison and Badger have the most town roles crossed off. Followed by kangus, kdestiny, and Mazer. But all those same people can't be Luca/Tom.
I'm not sure what his goals are, but Isaac's identity should be pretty clear at this point. If we feel he's a threat, we know who to vote.
But I'm honestly not so sure his presence is a threat.
Simon: 1 (Grim)
virms: -1 (Grim)
Traxx: 1 (Psycho)
Vote TraXX.
Start here but I'd be open to the other options Psycho laid out.
Simon: 1 (Grim)
virms: -1 (Grim)
Traxx: 2 (Psycho, JRod)
I'm also a bit concerned that with so many roleblockers/JOATs with roleblock abilities, that maybe not all of them are actually effective. Not sure it's worth seriously exploring this avenue now, but it's a thought that's been creeping in the back of my head when I go through the write-ups.
I could get behind this, Trouble is I thought BBF was a good train myself... I'll have a sleep on it and post again in the morning
Morrison is also a interesting option. His hammer came down on BBF like 10 minutes after Badger's vote. He might have saw a opportunity and decided to take it.
What do you think happened to us because of Isaac?
I mean it's a literal bus driver, but is it a mafia busdriver? 4 people seems a lot.
It went from 2 to 4.
At first I wondered if Isaac and Herman could act on the same night. If we get a strong scum read, let's do it. We might want to discuss Isaac if we're not feeling better than 50/50, because another loss on our end puts the numbers on a not great spot.
I can stay on traxx. He explained his vote, but it wasn't damning or compelling. And the bbf train building when he got just a few votes isn't exactly amazing for anyone.
That's what's throwing me. I'm guessing from your reaction that you haven't received any mod correspondence. Maybe we were somehow all commuted? But that could potentially be OP.
well, yeah. i explained my reasoning, and we were less than an hour until the deadline. i was able to hammer a lynch i believe we needed, at a time when the only other visible players online were king diamond, who was already on the bbf train, and stan, who was on traxx and not guaranteed to jump.
If it is a commuter, that could explain some potential redundancy
At it's core, if Isaac who I think it is, I'm willing to ignore them and keep them along for the ride.
Especially when I consider player numbers and what we've seen in the write-ups, I think Herman and the red mafia are the threats we need to be concerned with.
EBWOP *its
It makes sense. If you're tracking at all, we should all have the guess. Because it's not like people can't call it out if they need later. This knowledge won't die if one or two of us is killed
Let's see how it plays
Vote traxx
Simon: 1 (Grim)
virms: -1 (Grim)
Traxx: 3 (Psycho, JRod, Mazer)
Scum, you're so dumb. You're so fucking dumb. Dumb, dumb, more dumb, fucking hella dumb.
Scum are never going to win another game. It's impossible. We had Stupid Town Syndrome for a while, but we're apparently now stuck in permanent Dumb Scum Syndrome.
What is wrong with you?
Town listened. The SK listened. But scum, oh no, scum are dumb. Just so fucking dumb.
vote jp
I mean, wow does that fit.
Simon: 1 (Grim)
virms: -1 (Grim)
Traxx: 3 (Psycho, JRod, Mazer)
JP: 1 (virms)
Vote Virms
Simon: 1 (Grim)
virms: 0 (Grim, Knee)
Traxx: 3 (Psycho, JRod, Mazer)
JP: 1 (virms)
Vote Simon
Simon: 2 (Grim, TraxX)
virms: 0 (Grim, Knee)
Traxx: 3 (Psycho, JRod, Mazer)
JP: 1 (virms)
Now we're voting like we're playing among us? No dialogue, just voting.
Unvote
Vote Grim
Unvote
Vote Simon
Vote Traxx
You are acting weird man.
Unvote
Vote Virm
Unvote
Vote Simon
Vote TraXX
Vote Traxx
Simon: 2 (Grim, TraxX)
virms: 0 (Grim, Knee)
Traxx: 5 (Psycho, JRod, Mazer, KD, PG)
JP: 1 (virms)
Sorry boys I've been very busy the last week or so as we are in the middle of buying a new house. Not an excuse though, I could have done more, it just hasn't been in my mind. I'm not scum, honest.
TraXX seems to be restricted to just voting. No other reason to vote Grim unless he's saying Grim said I could only vote. That's the way I read this.
Maybe he pulled this trick out of his sleeve because we're onto him.
Tough call. Let's not push this through until we discuss though.
I can't see anywhere in the write-ups where Traxx was targeted, or Grim is displeased with him. Gimmick posting?
Am I going to have to do a spreadsheet on this?
He did it to virms too. Grim and virms doing things off the grid?
I find it weird.
even though I voted jp badger is the most sus in my eyes.
hes showing his normal scum tells
That doesn't make sense to me, since we kinda know who virm is.
We have no indication where traxx would have some kind of dees on anything weird with virm and the gamerunner.
Maybe TraXX is trying to pull a Pit?
I do find it hard to believe it is an actually sanctioned punishment or gimmick since he was never targeted, though.
I'm still not against this option
The whole throwing Grim in and then throwing virm in is tripping me up.
We know Grim has a history of working with virm on a game.
To be fair, you were louder than anyone wanting BBF gone. If we didn't have an idea of who you already were then I could say the same thing about you so same as me I'll put this case down to bad judgement.
Not discounting the possibility of scum on the BBF train though and TraXX who was also on that train is certainly acting strange with no obvious signs of being targeted. I am leaning him at the moment but not sure if this act is a Grim or a scummy act.
It seems at least a possibility as a hail mary, because after our first few votes there was pretty much a stall without much pressure anywhere else.
I'd like to vote for TraXX please, as I'm the next closest to him in the voting and it will help me avoid getting lynched.
Vote TraXX
gimmick posting without a target is odd.
Stop voting for Traxx.
You got Dees, Knee?
UNVOTE
Vote Badger
Hmm...it's early for such a bold statement to be a misleading statement.
I also think that it would be a weird style of gimmick posting to take up as a form of defence.
I'm willing to buy the not voting for Traxx for now.
Anything concrete here or just a hunch?
I'm about to spend most of the day flying.
Knee is experienced, and for those of you are new, he makes big cajones plays.
I don't need someone to give me everything, but can I get a general confidence level from knee?
I think based off his posts and traxx voting for him that simon could be a good choice.
I think if Simon were scum he would have been coached better.
No hard proof on the Traxx stuff. Just seemed like some were picking it up as an easy target.
Why is Traxx posting like that? Is he causing a distraction? What good does that do?
Odds are he has been forced to.
What a weird punishment then.
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unvote
vote badger
Unvote.
I guess its between Simon and Badger. Not sure what we should do.
we can always fall back on no lynch
Unvote
The rationales right now are more interesting than the votes.
I'm fine with either Badger or TraXX.
I think posting with an impairment generally leans town but only if one of the following conditions are met. Either that player displays their impediment from the start of the game or there is something in the write-up to support an interaction which caused the impairment. Neither condition has been met so perhaps it was a strategy, as has been used before, by scum to create hesitation for lynching TraXX. I remain unchanged in my views about TraXX.
Vote: TraXX
I agree with kangus. I think the posting is little more than gimmick, and my gut leans on the gimmick being a last ditch attempt to look townie after how the last phase went down.
It's not impossible that something has happened to him behind the scenes, or that he could possibly have a role where different gimmicks are attached to him with each day(pretty sure Grim has had a role almost exactly like this in one of his games before). And Knee usually has good intuition which is why I was willing to back off at his suggestion. But seeing he doesn't have a strong reason or confidence in his innocence, it makes me less willing to give him a pass just because he was an "easy" target.
But that said, the choice between TraXX/Badger is basically "which gut feel do I believe best?"
I'm also inclined to vote TraXX over Badger at this point because the above interaction took place and not single vote went to Badger on Day 3.
good shout
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I don't get any of the weird punishments, but there's little else out there and no evidence to dispute it.
Vote traxx
I had forgot about this actually because I was waiting for results. I guess the question is does that mean we have ON/EN cops?
Either way, this probably enough to give Badge some plausible deniability.
UNVOTE
Vote TraXX
Now, and this is purely speculation, how likely is it scum targeted fellow scum JP knowing he was 1x bulletproof?
Simon: 2 (Grim, TraxX)
virms: 0 (Grim, Knee)
Traxx: 7 (Mazer, KD, PG, Simon, kangus, Randolph, Psycho)
I think
This sounds like a "did they poison JP on purpose?" theory I floated out in a game last year. Brooklyn 99 I believe.
I was scum and got called out by JP accordingly, deservedly so.
I don't think Scum would waste a 1x Bulletproof just for some misdirection. Maybe a Roleblock but they wouldn't waste their extra life.
I agree. It wastes both a Bulletproof AND a kill.
Yeah also with yellow out there they probably wouldn't intentionally weaken one of their own on purpose.
JP is not scum
I feel like kangus was reaching a bit here. Maybe I feel this way because I was Scum when I tried the same tactic.
What does kangus look like on everyone's spreadsheets?
I only brought it up because I was thinking back to the time when JP and I were scum and we roleblocked JP when he used his strongarm kill.
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