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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    This is the quote from Caito that apparently cleared Badger. Is his math wrong?
    and this is true. HFR's theory was that poot was blocked from using his role, but that him being there for the wallace kill later that night was simply flavor, and that poot didn't need to have used his action for the wallace kill to happen, which would make sense since bodie was seemingly the only underling with kill power, and was actually HFR.

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    Wait, so scum has no apparent killing ability anymore? If they are effectively neutered, what is the harm going in order of the most obvious until the right one is lynched?

    Doing a half assed look up on the Pablo and Mazer votes, Badger was on both and Fro was not. I know those aren't the only two scum votes, but I feel they are the two of biggest ones.

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    it comes down to fro and badger. one is poot, the other is rawls. i think there is more weight on badger as scum now. if we dont end the game with this next lynch, we should know who goes next.

    i kinda wanna wait to hear from @Caito, and @Badger to some degree, but i also feel like we could possibly end this right now...

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    I am town. I can’t say more as I’ve already been warned for breadcrumbing. Just trust.

    Lynch badger, which should be the end but if not, then block Randolph and we’ll win tomorrow. Block me again instead of Randolph if you want and even if poot kills one of us we would still have a 2-1 win.

    This is the way. We actually can’t really lose here unless we massively fuck up

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    I don't care if I'm blocked, because I have nothing to hide. But I will not be lead to a lynch based on your word without input from Caito or a defense from Badger.

    And I hear that TRUST ME crap on Among Us almost every damn game. I don't trust anybody unless they are universally trusted by everyone else.

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    I think you're spin doctoring your way out of this by going after the only other guy that is scum-suspected, but I have no problem waiting til tomorrow until everyone's feelings are addressed.

    If Caito's still convinced of Badger's innocence, then I'm voting you tomorrow... if the other three haven't already voted on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    it comes down to fro and badger. one is poot, the other is rawls. i think there is more weight on badger as scum now. if we dont end the game with this next lynch, we should know who goes next.

    i kinda wanna wait to hear from @Caito, and @Badger to some degree, but i also feel like we could possibly end this right now...
    I am neither of those characters. I've tried to hint as much as I possibly could as to who I am but really can't go much further as would be crossing the line at that point.

    The scum was on that virm train making sure it was rushed through. It's Fro or Randolph for me. Randolph hammered right after virm got his defense up but the fact Fro is trying to use the same tactics as HFR has me suspecting him.

    Vote Fro

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    i mean, we're down to 4 people to lynch, i wouldn't say it's rushing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    i mean, we're down to 4 people to lynch, i wouldn't say it's rushing.
    I meant that last phase with virm was rushed. I saw what was going on and was willing to wait a little longer as he advised to go back through the early phases to see if anything could be picked up but then the hammer dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I meant that last phase with virm was rushed. I saw what was going on and was willing to wait a little longer as he advised to go back through the early phases to see if anything could be picked up but then the hammer dropped.
    i don't understand all these reservations and hold backs you seem to having this game, especially when they seemingly only amount to stalling and not any helpful info or insight.

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    though those last few phases went through pretty quick, with badger not being around(it being around midnight for him). if badger was rawls, and rawls has no night action, it'd make sense why things advanced so quickly, cause fro is poot and was able to submit actions. but then he outright says he's neither poot nor rawls. if he WAS rawls, then don't even address that part of my theory. if he's poot, i expect a denial.

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    but if he's saying he was around pre-virm lynch, then he was around to submit for poot, saw town was gonna lynch their own so stayed quiet.

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    in order of occurance.

    night 3, badger gets blocked by herc and carver, poot shows at the wallace kill. rhonda doesn't act that night.

    night 7, rhonda acts, poot acts and then randolph gets clapped by greggs.

    if randolph was poot or rhonda, he was still able to act before getting locked up by greggs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    i don't understand all these reservations and hold backs you seem to having this game, especially when they seemingly only amount to stalling and not any helpful info or insight.
    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    though those last few phases went through pretty quick, with badger not being around(it being around midnight for him). if badger was rawls, and rawls has no night action, it'd make sense why things advanced so quickly, cause fro is poot and was able to submit actions. but then he outright says he's neither poot nor rawls. if he WAS rawls, then don't even address that part of my theory. if he's poot, i expect a denial.
    A few of the phases have gone pretty quick and not been UK timezone friendly. I have tried to help out when possible trying to use what I know of the show.

    At the moment my instinct lies with Fro just because it's the same HFR tactic although I believe Randolph has also gone under the radar a bit. Fro's not voted as much though he did get the JP train going again. However a known JP scum tactic in the past is to get fellow scum to vote for him when he's on death's door to make them look good.

    When I get done with work at 5pm GMT today, I'm going to read this through previous posts and votes a bit more to see if there is anything I can pick up or add so I would request please hold off lynching anyone til after then.

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    For those waiting to hear from me, damn i wish i knew what to think.


    I am hoping i was not wrong about Badger before

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    god damnit caito, you were supposed to make some sense out of all my thread pulling and rambling.

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    I hear ya, and the fact of the matter is I fucked up thinking Virm was the last. Not just cuz he ended up town, but i didn’t look at my sheet before voting him, and I’m pretty sure I’m sheet would’ve cleared him. Sorry Virm.


    so.... Badger. HFR kept arguing that it was flavor in that N3 post. But once he flips as scum, we kind of dismiss it. But what if it was and they both say to eachother “if we push hard for eachother, the other will be trusted”.

    Fro and Randolph..... idk, i had a town read in Randolph, Fro isnt hitting me one way or another. But all three (badger included) has done the “i can’t say more without breadcrumbing” bit. Which, for future reference, i do think is a terrible defense.

    I would say you are the only one I implicitly trust Morri..... but I’m concerned about this 24th role that I just don’t know what it is. It’s wrecking my brain right now.

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    What’s worse is it is probably something very small and obvious i am missing, and JP is having a field day over it.

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    looking at order of operations for night 7.

    if randolph was rhonda, the jail block on him by greggs should have blocked the letter going out. so if randolph isnt rhonda, I've got him down to either rawls or poot.

    if randolph isnt rhonda, that opens up badger to be rhonda, explained by the night 3 block on him and rhonda's inaction. badger would be free on night 7 to act.

    fro cant be rhonda, since rhonda sent fro paperwork on night 4. he was mentioned nowhere else on night 3, so he could be poot. he already called out caito as greggs.

    if badger is rhonda and acted night 7, and randolph was blocked night 7, who is poot...

    i think fro might be the vote here.

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    vote fro.

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    wrong. idk who is who between badger and randolph but I am town. I assume caito is greggs based on night 10.

    if you lynch me, you'll be down to 3 town/1 scum. if that scum gets a kill off, it'll be 2/1 and you'll have to be right. likely it will be hard to screw this up to the point of a town loss, but lynching me will give scum a chance for a win.

    vote: badger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    After Diamond's nerfing, I really don't want to go into any details. All I can say is I'm town, I have done nothing that isn't posted here, and I ride trains since that's really all I can do. I thought I would take a leap with Jordo's deductions last night and it didn't work out too well.
    That was my posting about giving too much away, because fellow new guy Diamond got slammed for giving too much information and that scared me from doing the same. I also have been pretty consistent about following the right trains that got the big bad dudes hung. I also got on board about Mazer being the bad guy when he was still kinda on the fence.

    Fro has missed votes and was mostly quiet until the number of scum was reduced. He seems like the likeliest guy to lynch first. I thought I saw Badger's name on a few scum votes when I was looking it up last night, but my brain is mush. I don't trust him a whole lot, but I trust Fro a hell of a lot less.

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    I was about to vote Fro, but Badger said he will look up voting habits of us when he gets out of work, so I will hold off until those records are brought up.

    Although I think is is just delaying the inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    I was about to vote Fro, but Badger said he will look up voting habits of us when he gets out of work, so I will hold off until those records are brought up.

    Although I think is is just delaying the inevitable.
    I was heavily leaning towards Fro being scum over you anyway then Morrison pointed out earlier that you were handcuffed Night 7 and Poot acted that night on Bert. I'm quite satisfied now in that clearing you.

    Looking at Fro's votes, most of the scum ones seem to have been after the hammer or in the case of Pablo, he was going to take someone down on his way out which he did with Bert. I've been on the trains for Psycho, JP, Mazer and started the HFR train after seeing what he tried to pull on me.

    Also think of this as well, does it really make logical sense that HFR and I would try to out each other when they're only 2 of us left? It doesn't. Fro has given tell tale scum signs like where he admits to leaning virm over HFR.

    Fro is the only choice here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Virm or HFR is who I think we should vote for here, if we choose to lynch. I am leaning towards virm, as I've been sus of him for a while.

    Which brings me to a question for you guys. Do we still have a mystery role out there? There's 7 left. If we know there's only 2 scum, we're in somewhat a position of strength (i.e. even a mislynch wouldn't end us). Obviously we don't want to mislynch but I am just thinking through the math and possible outcomes. And I'm waiting for Brother Mouzone to show up and wreck us (lol jk, he was not in season 1 so I don't expect him here, but I am wondering what the mystery role is).
    Trying to get the heat off HFR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I’m good with this plan. Solid chance these are our two scum.

    Vote HFR

    (For prosperity - i know it’s already been hammered)
    Voting for "prosperity" after the hammer which is a crock.

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    Vote fro. No more dancing around this crap.

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    for prosperity is just a phrase. I voted after the hammer because a) i was sleeping when all of those votes came in and b) we have a loved case earlier this game where you badger didn't vote after the hammer (because whats the point right?) and pablo conveniently didnt get lynched.

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    Well you've been hammered so let's just wait and see shall we?

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    So much for me reading when I get in from work.... please be right

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    jail badger tonight

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    And that's a lynch.

    Badger - 1 (Fro)
    Fro - 3 (Badger, Morrison, Randolph)

    I am at work, so get your roles in ASAP.

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    Otherwise known as not endgame

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    mother fuck me.

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    Jokes, again! HA!

    END GAME

    Fro sits on the orange lounge and watches as the last few circle around him. "Society said I deserve a second chance..." Poot frowns, knowing there won't be a second chance this time.


    Fro has been lynched. He was Poot, drug dealer/RB.

    Your living victorious players...

    1. Morrison - Cedric Daniels, Info receiver
    9. Badger - Rhonda Pearlman, Motivator
    16. Caito - Kima Greggs, JK


    And your living losers!

    15. Randolph - William Rawls, Lyncher (Stan/McNulty)




    Cemetery - https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/DYK3iSbXcdr
    Barksdale crew - https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/BrRJ6WbW5d7F
    Herc and Carver on patrol - https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/YkZ2Rj9yhkqPh


    Will put up roles as the day goes by.

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    you dirty son of a bitch.

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    Jimmy McNulty
    Smarter than your average cop, or so y
    ou think. You’ve got a problem with authority and you’ve got a problem with alcohol.
    Every even night, you will conduct an investigation and find out which side your target plays for.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.

    Mod note: If the day phase ends and you have received any votes, you will get a bit too drunk to receive your results. They will arrive in the next night phase.



    Bunk Moreland
    A one-time lacrosse superstar, best (and let’s be honest, probably only real) friend to McNulty and good police. You love a cigar and you love your liquor.
    Every odd night, you will conduct an investigation and find out which side your target plays for.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.

    Mod note: If the day phase ends and you have received any votes, you will get a bit too drunk to receive your results. They will arrive in the next night phase.

    The delayed result only got triggered once. Oh well.

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    You are a career cop, believing in the rules and focused on the numbers… perhaps more so than the actual results.
    Each night, you may ask for an assessment of the previous days vote summary. You will identify how many friends and foe are on the lynch.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.

    Mod note: He’s caused you nothing but grief so McNulty will always show up as being unfriendly when you review a vote.



    Major Rawls
    Whilst you are very keen to see a high clearance rate and would be ecstatic if the Barksdale crew was taken down, you’re overtaken by a sense of revenge. That uppity Irish prick, McNulty, is the one who caused all of this and for that, he must suffer.
    To win, you must ensure McNulty is lynched and eliminate the Barksdale crew.

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    Cedric Daniels
    You’re a reluctant player in all of this, forced to lead the Barksdale detail with orders to focus on quick results. You’ve built a reputation on solid police work and quality arrests and are torn between doing the right thing and following orders, especially when your superiors have sway over you.
    You have no information of your own but, being in charge of the team, you will receive any information that is picked up from the wire or by your investigators.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.

    Mod note: If investigated, you will come up dirty. You’ve got too much money and too many assets to be clean, right?
    Mod note 2: While Burrell is still alive, you will get incorrect results from McNulty, who does not trust you.



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    You’ve been on board with the wiretap since the beginning. Everything that’s happening from a legal perspective goes through you as the Assistant State’s Attorney.
    Each night, you may choose one player to motivate. Their role will go through, even if they are roleblocked.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.

    Mod note: Only one town roleblock will be successfully motivated through. Legal documents will not prevent drug roleblocks.
    Mod note: JK will be prioritised and will also remove protection.

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    Bubbles
    Long-time recovering/relapsing heroin addict. You’ve lost friends. You’ve made many too. You’ve seen some things… boy have you seen some things. You’re trying to make amends but sometimes, bad habits might persist.
    Every odd night, you may track one player to see if they visit anyone during the evening.
    Every even night, tired from previous exertions, you must find someone to hide behind.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.

    Mod note: You will only die if hiding behind Barksdale gang members. Levy will not kill you.
    Mod note 2: If you are targeted by the RB dealers on even nights, you will not hide, lose both your vote the next day and next nights tracking ability.


    Detective Greggs
    You are one of the brightest young detectives in the narcotics squad. Determined but becoming more and more cynical as years go by.
    Each night, you may bring someone in to the interview room. They’re not going to talk, sadly, but you will protect them from harm and block them from any action.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.

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    Sergeant Jay Landsman
    You are a squad sergeant of the homicide division and have lost some of your staff to the Barksdale detail. As you try to achieve the high case clearance that your superiors demand, you are forced to shuffle your people around
    Each night, you must choose to players to swap. Any targets to either will be switched as well.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.



    Judge Phelan
    After learning that the Barksdale organisation have at least a dozen body count to their name and manage to continue to evade prosecution due to witness tampering, you have had enough. So yeah, this is your fault.
    As Judge, you have many powers at your disposal. They are extremely powerful. Use them wisely. They may only be used once. If you wish to use one, send me a PM.
    Executioner – at any time during the day phase, you may call an immediate end to voting. The highest vote count player at that time will be lynched.
    Gladiator (variant) – at any time during the day phase, you may nominate two people. All votes will reset and voting can only be done to either of these people.
    Governor – At any time during the day, you may cancel the day’s lynch and we proceed to night phase.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.




    Lester Freamon
    You are a veteran of the force, a methodical detective whose intelligence and experience are integral to this unit’s success… but nobody knows that yet, as you spend your days making dollhouse furniture. And once the wire tap is up, that’s your job until it’s done.
    At the end of each EVEN day, I will give you a number range indicating the posts available in Mafia chat. You may choose one number to receive its contents.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.

    Mod Note: The pager code is not cracked until Prez is sent to the precinct following his “incident”. All wiretap information prior to this will use codenames. Results will receive one before and one after message, if not from excluded list.



    “Prez” Pryzbylewski
    You shot up your own squad car in a panic and called in a false report. You’ve bounced around from unit to unit and everyone thinks you are an inept detective. If it wasn’t for your father in law, you would be long gone from the force. And here you are, on detail, along with the rest of the forces unwanted.
    You are a one-shot vigilante. On any night, you may nominate another player to kill.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.

    Mod note: You are a terrible shot and your target is not harmed… but due to yet another fuck up, you are sent to the precinct on admin duty only. Lo and behold though, you manage to crack the code and the wire starts to make sense. Every Odd Night, you will commence wiretap duties. Results will receive one before and one after message, if not from excluded list.
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    Detective Sydnor
    One of the most promising young detectives in the Baltimore force, you are assigned to Barksdale detail after Lt. Daniels is forced to take Prez on. You’re a man of many talents and spend some time undercover getting close to the Barksdale crew.
    Each EVEN night, you will target a player to identify how many (if any) people targeted that player.
    To win, eliminate the Barksdale crew.

    Mod note: Because of your time spent slumming it undercover, investigations will show you as unfriendly on Odd Nights.



    Herc and Carv
    You are all about kicking doors and busting heads along with your partner and best friend. You’re not keen on this whole detail thing and would be prefer to be out on the streets doing real police work.
    And so, you are. Each night, you and your partner team up to beat down on your target. They will be blocked from any action.
    You may speak freely via the QT link.

    Mod note: If either partner dies, you will become a bodyguard… thinking that you are actually a doctor. You will die if your protectee is targeted.
    Mod note: If either of you is blocked, the other will not bother with the role block attempt.

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    Avon Barksdale
    You are the most powerful drug kingpin in Baltimore, building an empire on strict rules and discipline designed to thwart any police investigation. You have wall after wall set up to protect you from everything. Squeaky clean, nothing traces back to you either.
    Until such times as you might need to pull the trigger yourself, you will always return a friendly result.
    To win, become the unassailable majority.



    Stringer Bell
    You’re second in command, seen by many to be the brains behind the huge growth of the Barksdale empire. You’re keen to get away from the violence and become a legit businessman. Slowly, slowly, you are learning, absorbing everything you can.
    You have no abilities of your own but might get your hands dirty if needed.
    To win, become the unassailable majority.

    Mod note: Every second night, will gain a passive ability. N2 – compulsive voter, can’t be on lynch, N4 – vengeful, will kill hammer if lynched, N6 – loved, one extra to be lynched

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    Maurice Levy
    You’re clean as a whistle, suit and tie and an honourable profession. Or at least it would be if you used your lawyer powers for good. Instead, you are the man responsible for keeping the Barksdale crew on the street.
    Each night, you may select one person to show up as the opposite alignment.
    In addition, any lynch you are on will not have the player role or alignment revealed until the end of the following night phase.
    To win, become the unassailable majority.



    Wee-Bey Brice
    You’re the main soldier for the Barksdale crew. You make messes and clean up others. Each night, you perform the evening kill.
    After that hit on the stash house though, you got yourself an extra incentive.
    To win, become the unassailable majority.
    Special win condition: Kill Omar Little.

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    D’Angelo Barksdale
    You’ve escaped prison time thanks to some shenanigans pulled by your cousin and orchestrated by Stringer Bell. You don’t want to go back… but you have to work your way back up from the pit to be back on top.
    You have final say as to which of your dealers performs the roleblock.
    To win, become the unassailable majority.

    Mod note: If Wallace is killed by his dealer buddies, you are shaken and lose your vote the next day. Where the fuck is Wallace?



    Bodie & Poot
    You’re one of the young uns, a low-level dealer, working out of the Pit.
    Each night, you and your fellow dealers choose one of you to target another player to give a vial. They will be roleblocked and unable to perform any action.



    Wallace
    You’re one of the young uns, a low-level dealer, working out of the Pit.
    Each night, you and your fellow dealers choose one of you to target another player to give a vial. They will be roleblocked and unable to perform any action.

    Mod note: If Omar has lost his bulletproof status, you will be haunted by the brutal death of his boyfriend. It messed you up. If you are selected to deliver drugs after that, you will use them on yourself and the roleblock will not succeed. You will be killed by your fellow dealers.

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    Oh fuck you grim. I even sent a role in!!! Lol

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    Great game grim. Lots of WTF moments for me. Well constructed.



    Congrats town on your 357th consecutive win. Honestly, when I saw the scum roster, i thought this was the game we were going to take one for scum. Town pulled it out, like the fucking do-gooders they are.

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    Omar Little

    A man gotta have a code.
    Every even night, you may choose to kill. If you kill a town member, you will not be able to vote the next day.
    If you are on a vote to kill town, you will lose your next kill role. You must vote.
    To win, eliminate all members of the Barksdale crew.
    Mod note: You’ve managed to survive an encounter or two in your time. You are one shot bulletproof. Kind of. It’s not you that takes the bullet, it’s your boy, Brandon. If you are shot, you will become a EN compulsive killer.
    Mod note 2: Despite your desire to clean the streets of the Barksdale crew, you still in the game. And no matter what code you got, you still got blood on your hands and will show unfriendly at night.

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    Huh. Never knew that gif was from the show

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    I was going to encode any names or roles in scum chat once the game began however scum went straight ahead and put forward the following codenames anyway.

    Badger - Snowball
    BBF - Daytona
    Bert - Redstone
    Caito - Moose
    CWE - Digit
    Fro - Starlight
    HFR - Gambit
    Jarrod1983 - Echo
    Jordo - Romeo
    JP - Thanos
    Judas - Rabbit
    kangus - Moonlight
    King Diamond - Maverick
    Mazer - Captain
    Mikey - Possum
    Morrison - Mustang
    Pablo - Seawolf
    Peter Griffin - Cheetah
    Psycho - Asgard
    Randolph - Werewolf
    Rip - Gazelle
    Stan - Iceman
    virm - Delta
    wardy - Slinky

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    I knew I was fucked when no one was looking at Stan. I couldn't get any train going on the guy and he was eliminated kinda early. I should have tried harder instead of just being empty votes.

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    Gawd that was tough. I was going insane at the end “Blocked Night Three and Rhonda doesn’t show up” Course I’m bloody Rhonda!!!

    Of course not the best night game from me either though essentially it turned out to be a one shot lol. Psycho was the natural go to and this is the first time he’s come up as scum since I started playing these. JP putting the push on the Judas lynch had me thinking it was so good so targeted him for my role. Should’ve seen that it was a decoy. Fro had me going for a bit til near the end.

    One helluva scum team though who had some bad luck. We squeaked it out at the end.

    Tough complex but fun game!

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    Some thoughts...

    Annoyed Omar didn't get to do Omar things.

    Annoyed almost none of my negative town passives happened, at all.
    Should have made Rhonda O or E only.
    Should havel limited Daniels to only one info source instead of all. Far too OP.
    Greggs should have been O or E only.
    Herc/Carver should have been the other O or E only.
    Sydnor and Bubs were almost useless on watch/track as they were the super weak versions of those roles that basically only said "yes, they did something" or "yes, someone targeted them".
    Why does my bus driver always die early?
    KILL SOMEONE ON NIGHT ONE, BEEBS!!!
    Phelan could have been OP but wardy blew his load super early and fucked PG over. He was half right though... if only PG had defended himself better.

    Of course JP is the godfather. Of course he gets investigated first up. Of course he uses this to go on a killing spree and claim he is town. Of course. Isn't that rule 1?
    Mazer is very, very good.
    Pabs saying the passive would screw him is the only thing the wire got that was of any use.
    RIP Wallace I don't regret the mechanic, but maybe the implementation. Perhaps first RB after Omar loses BP is him taking drugs and then if used a second time, he dead? Dunno

    I originally thought that with 8 scum, they would be way too powerful. Then they got a super team draw - basically 7 amazing players plus Judas (ha). No way they could lose.
    The Pabs passive wire tap, not killing Caito and using JP once too often was the downfall. And somehow, still, Fro nearly snuck it in at the end but there was just too much cleared town left.
    Last edited by Grimario; November 30th, 2020 at 7:06 PM.

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    I think it was a well balanced game. Scum had a great roster but we didn't play very well, myself included. I didn't have my head in this game like I should have. I think we played too passively and let a winnable game slip away, even if we didn't make any major blunders.

    Mazer was probably the MVP of the scum team in my view. He played a good game. Psycho getting caught on Night 3 didn't help because he would have been a leader for us. And Wallace (CWE) bodying himself because of a role mechanism didn't help either. Then Judas got lynched just because he didn't show up to play the game, and it was tough to turn it around.

    Oh well. The game is the game.

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    What a game lads, really enjoyed that. Thanks a lot Grim.

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    Great game Grim!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Omar Little

    A man gotta have a code.
    Every even night, you may choose to kill. If you kill a town member, you will not be able to vote the next day.
    If you are on a vote to kill town, you will lose your next kill role. You must vote.
    To win, eliminate all members of the Barksdale crew.
    Mod note: You’ve managed to survive an encounter or two in your time. You are one shot bulletproof. Kind of. It’s not you that takes the bullet, it’s your boy, Brandon. If you are shot, you will become a EN compulsive killer.
    Mod note 2: Despite your desire to clean the streets of the Barksdale crew, you still in the game. And no matter what code you got, you still got blood on your hands and will show unfriendly at night.
    this is more of just a game-running curiosity but if his win condition is the same as town's, doesn't that make him town? mind you I'm glad you put him in yellow and it fits the theme, but for all intents and purposes he was a townie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    Great game Grim!
    And a great show. Glad this finally got you to watch it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    this is more of just a game-running curiosity but if his win condition is the same as town's, doesn't that make him town? mind you I'm glad you put him in yellow and it fits the theme, but for all intents and purposes he was a townie.
    Basically, yeah. He probably could have been a miller, always showing up dirty on investigation, rather than actual non-town Aligned. However, the reason I did it this way was so if he got evidence planted on him by Levy, instead of showing up as scum, he would show up clean. Probably could have done it the same if he was a Miller, I guess.

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    this was super fucking enjoyable. would've been even better if some of those secondary town effects went live.

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    I came out of this game both loving and hating Mazer even more than I already did.

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    Thanks for the game Grim . Holy fuck that scum team was nightmarish.

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    I wasn't a million miles off with my hidden modifier - I thought there was some mechanism that would get me drunk and turn me insane/naive/paranoid. Then you said it was the same as Bunk's in deadchat but I didn't make the connection.

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    I still think it's funny I die by scum even when I'm scum.

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    Yeah what happened there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Yeah what happened there?
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Mod note: If Omar has lost his bulletproof status, you will be haunted by the brutal death of his boyfriend. It messed you up. If you are selected to deliver drugs after that, you will use them on yourself and the roleblock will not succeed. You will be killed by your fellow dealers.

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    Oh.... ok.


    So, the whole Badger block not block thing..... if we had blocked one of the actual dealers, would they still have showed up or would one of them just not been there to kill him?

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    I did very much enjoy the scum team, even though we lost. With a couple of the guys we were able to see what was going on without chatting, and just kind of naturally play off each other. Fro pulled a subtle clear for me early that really helped. Proper villainy.


    Town made good choices with early targets. If it wasn't for losing CWE and Psych early, I think we had a good shot. But credit town for making good calls on targeting.

    Enjoyed this game a lot. Challenging and several points of very strong play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    I came out of this game both loving and hating Mazer even more than I already did.
    I'm saving this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Oh.... ok.


    So, the whole Badger block not block thing..... if we had blocked one of the actual dealers, would they still have showed up or would one of them just not been there to kill him?
    They weren't there in the first place. I probably could have written that much, much better... maybe as the start of the next day or something. It wasn't a night action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I'm saving this.
    Use it as your signature.

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    Well played guys, Caito and Morrison smashed it. As did wardy. Superbly run as always by Grim.

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    I didn't understand any of the wire tapping as the game was going on and I'm tired of being a cop.

    I got Judas and Psycho lynched though.

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    Great game, Grim! Great play, townies! You didn't fall to sugary words and kept thinking about the logic. Caito should have been killed early, but especially within the nights following my death. We should have listened to JP and killed Bert early considering he was the cop. Y'all should have let me double dip on Mikey. But well played anyways, scum. Despite the bad luck and a questionable night action, we had a hell of a team that all shined at different points. Except Judas.
    @Grimario What exactly would have happened had I killed Omar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Great game, Grim! Great play, townies! You didn't fall to sugary words and kept thinking about the logic. Caito should have been killed early, but especially within the nights following my death. We should have listened to JP and killed Bert early considering he was the cop. Y'all should have let me double dip on Mikey. But well played anyways, scum. Despite the bad luck and a questionable night action, we had a hell of a team that all shined at different points. Except Judas.
    @Grimario What exactly would have happened had I killed Omar?
    You would have been victorious even with the downfall of the Barksdale empire.

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    I did want to call that out. Great game by a lot of townies. Caito wasn't swayed by a record amount of bullshit from several of us. Morrison reasoned out a lot of shit. Jordo and Bert used their roles to get kills. Badger, Virm, and Randolph played smart and siphoned it out.

    Also, I hope King Diamond isn't put off. Guy's a good player, and many of us have gotten modkilled at some point.

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    I was swayed but sugary words. I'm pretty gullible in general so no different here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    I was swayed but sugary words. I'm pretty gullible in general so no different here.
    Eh. Don't butter me up....I never quite got you. Like the more vocal style you're playing. Helped town quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Also, I hope King Diamond isn't put off. Guy's a good player, and many of us have gotten modkilled at some point.
    there were at least three times where i started typing out something along the lines of 'THE MYSTERY ROLE IS TOWN, DONT WORRY ABOUT IT, TRUST ME' and had to just breathe and let it pass. it's real easy to get caught up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    there were at least three times where i started typing out something along the lines of 'THE MYSTERY ROLE IS TOWN, DONT WORRY ABOUT IT, TRUST ME' and had to just breathe and let it pass. it's real easy to get caught up.
    Badger really wanted to go LOOK BACK AT THE NIGHT I WAS BLOCKED YOU FUCKING IDIOTS in there somewhere too. No idea how people missed he was Rhonda.

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    I'll say now that the game is over, I've never watched the show. But I did just buy the entire series and plan on starting it this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    I'll say now that the game is over, I've never watched the show. But I did just buy the entire series and plan on starting it this week.
    I think I bought it this time last year in the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales. Might have been $30-40 for the whole lot on Youtube or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    I'll say now that the game is over, I've never watched the show. But I did just buy the entire series and plan on starting it this week.
    Nice. I'm coming up on the middle of Season 5. This show unravels such a great story. No wasted motion, slow burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Badger really wanted to go LOOK BACK AT THE NIGHT I WAS BLOCKED YOU FUCKING IDIOTS in there somewhere too. No idea how people missed he was Rhonda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Eh. Don't butter me up....I never quite got you. Like the more vocal style you're playing. Helped town quite a bit.
    I was way off with Caito and I think the phase I was killed in I was too talkative for my own good. I had fun though.

    Now I'm patiently waiting for Christmas to be saved by those TV stars. Omar going to show up here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Hahaha yeah I need to start spreadsheeting but I feel like it's more fun and chaotic not too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Badger really wanted to go LOOK BACK AT THE NIGHT I WAS BLOCKED YOU FUCKING IDIOTS in there somewhere too. No idea how people missed he was Rhonda.
    i had earmarked randolph as rhonda at some point and literally took until the last lynch to come off it. HFR managed to sew confusion in there cause i got so laser focused on the badger/poot connection.

    also, big shout out to mazer linking to the natural action resolution page of the mafiascum wiki back on the 17th, cause being aware of that is the only reason i was able to logic out the roles and land on fro for the last lynch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    i had earmarked randolph as rhonda at some point and literally took until the last lynch to come off it. HFR managed to sew confusion in there cause i got so laser focused on the badger/poot connection.

    also, big shout out to mazer linking to the natural action resolution page of the mafiascum wiki back on the 17th, cause being aware of that is the only reason i was able to logic out the roles and land on fro for the last lynch.



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    I was convinced I could decipher the code. I even watched the scene were prez cracks the page code thinking it would be something with that.

    I even showed my girlfriend the list of players and the names I had.

    Ridiculous lol

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    You'll see in the dead chat I was also fairly convinced morrison was scum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    I was convinced I could decipher the code. I even watched the scene were prez cracks the page code thinking it would be something with that.

    I even showed my girlfriend the list of players and the names I had.

    Ridiculous lol
    i got about as far as the 'maybe the first letter of the codename is the same as the name of a player' theory you had, which broke down immediately, and i was like fuck it there aint enough to figure this shit out, hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    I was convinced I could decipher the code. I even watched the scene were prez cracks the page code thinking it would be something with that.

    I even showed my girlfriend the list of players and the names I had.

    Ridiculous lol
    That code was the last good thing scum did this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    i got about as far as the 'maybe the first letter of the codename is the same as the name of a player' theory you had, which broke down immediately, and i was like fuck it there aint enough to figure this shit out, hahaha.
    I was spiraling hard on it lol

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    And then Grim took our fun and made us stop using it in chat.

    Vote Grim

    Bully...

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    If I had somehow lived I was hoping by putting *redacted* that scum would drop the code if it was them doing it. If I lived that was

    Then I fucked up and pushed Morrison to give me a name.

    That's why I said "what you're getting is different but it's still enough to say you're getting what I am"

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    Super fun game grim. I was super excited about my role and enjoyed it while it lasted.

    Great game for my comeback.

    Scum deserves props on the shit they pulled defending omar/mikey too. Dunno if that was the play as I havent read the scum chat but i really liked that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    If I had somehow lived I was hoping by putting *redacted* that scum would drop the code if it was them doing it. If I lived that was

    Then I fucked up and pushed Morrison to give me a name.

    That's why I said "what you're getting is different but it's still enough to say you're getting what I am"
    that makes sense now.

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    Thank you Grim for putting together an amazing game.

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    So were the wiretaps helpful, people who received them?

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