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    I only trust myself at the moment. I stayed off that train deliberately because did not agree with the reasoning at all.

    - TimeSplitter was very quick to vote Bert after he got a Judas train going for being quiet.
    - Judas voted Bert back purely in retaliation because Bert was supposed to remember for years if he was quiet.
    - HFR’s accusations against Mazer are valid but HFR could have just easily come off me and at least levelled it to 3 each between Bert and Judas. There was still time left. I wonder if they could actually be scum partners there secretly working together splitting the vote. Mazer’s early HFR vote could have just been an early red herring that he never intended to follow through.

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    Why would I come off you when my whole idea is to have as many people for the chop as possible?

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    While Mazer could have brought it to a 3-way for a randomiser, you could have also brought it to a 2-way to randomise after him also. It wouldn’t have been as good as a 3-way but you still could’ve carried out the randomiser plan.

    What I’m far more confident in though is at lease one scum was on that Bert lynch. I want to see where these three guys thoughts are now.

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    Damn.

    My vote on Bert was solely based on his defection early on. I agree that scum jumped on the vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HHHnFoley_Rulez View Post
    I had no strong feelings of anyone over anyone in the previous phase.. but limiting it to 2 seemed pointless.. to then have someone limit it to 1 is .. bonkers. Could have levelled it up on Badger for a 3 way dance. The odds were far better.
    Interesting. You pushed nobody to randomization. Your vote for Badger was to get him to vote. After the vote, there was no change. This could be due to schedule, but it seemed to me like a throw away vote.

    I did wonder if there was a chance you wanted to pull attention away from one of those two, and see if someone would do a 6 way split and have a random vote. Which would have been a 1 in 3 chance. Not really better than picking one candidate probability-wise, and tells us less on reactions.




    If judas and Bert are both clean, then there's no real advantage to scum voting for either. They could have let us split. 1 could have voted for each. HFR could possibly be scum. And then the other was on either train, because they wouldn't care.


    If Judas is scum, then its likely that we would no something about the other. We know timesplitter, me, and Judas voted for someone who was town. That group we know something about. Seems like our best shot.

    Right now I would lean to Judas over timesplitter.

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    I’ve already explained my Bert vote rationale. I don’t entirely follow HFR’s logic in the randomizer. I would also like to hear from Judas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    I’ve already explained my Bert vote rationale. I don’t entirely follow HFR’s logic in the randomizer. I would also like to hear from Judas.
    Whats not to understand? We have no info. We won't get info.

    You randomise all of us you have a 1/3 chance of scum dying (2 of the 6). Game over.

    However people seemed like they wanted to steer away from that, doubling up on people and eventually tripling up. Essentially halving the chances.

    You can argue that this has given us info but... As far as I know.. Its not. Except I'm fairly sure one of you 5 are scum.. I'd go far to say 2 of you were.

    OK I'm being facetious.


    I'd like everyone to chip in and give their thoughts on who to vote for.. Else it'll probably be you, timesplitter, I vote for... Just a completely gut reaction to nothing much.

    Im on a night shift at the mo... But I'll be awake before the game ends.

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    Yes I voted for Bert due to a completely stupid reason because I didn't realize it had been that long since he played. I myself haven't played or been on these forums in in over a year so my idea of time is warped. If I could take that vote back, I would, but I can't.

    Additionally I was never great at reading people through their posts.

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    Do Judas's posts in mafia games strike more as frustrated townie to everyone else?

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    I’m reading that last Judas post as “Oh damn sorry about Bert but keep in mind I’ve been out a while too.” Seems like a bad excuse more than frustrated townie to me. I don’t know if Mazer is now covering for him as he was leaning on him before.

    HFR’s talk about randomisation near the start of the last phase, then says “Oh I’ll vote for the person who’s posted least and posted filler. Chooses me for “no real reason” in his own words then chides Mazer for not taking it to a 3-way lynch yet he still had a couple of hours or so to still take it to a randomiser. I have my suspicions about all that as seems all over the place but I agree he’s not the person to focus on here as the Bert train has proven to at least have a scum on it.

    Timesplitter’s reasoning for Bert seems fair enough as Bert moved off Mazer to Judas though his own vote was quick after Bert’s. He said Judas was next on his suspect list and wonder if he still feels that way.

    I understand the slight hesitation to vote in this phase because it only takes three and two scum to jump on but it’s time for action now that everyone’s spoken. Going to take a punt as don’t entirely buy his excuses and I get the feeling someone might also be covering for him.

    Vote Judas

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    Vote count:

    Judas -1 (Badger)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    IHFR’s talk about randomisation near the start of the last phase, then says “Oh I’ll vote for the person who’s posted least and posted filler. Chooses me for “no real reason” in his own words then chides Mazer for not taking it to a 3-way lynch yet he still had a couple of hours or so to still take it to a randomiser. I have my suspicions about all that as seems all over the place but I agree he’s not the person to focus on here as the Bert train has proven to at least have a scum on it.
    Ok so.. my first idea was the best idea, you all ruined it - it was also a test, I felt like a townsperson would take the risk (hell, I would) and Mafia would try and subvert it.

    Cue the rest of you.

    No one spoke much, then when they voted they got people up to 2 votes.. squashing the whole thing. No one said a great deal, some people still aren't saying a great deal.

    So I voted for you to give an extra option, taking a pool of 2 to a potential pool of 3. I could have voted for myself or anyone else but I wanted to see where the votes would lay if Scum really was lurking in the midst.

    If Judas or Bert were scum, votes may move off of them and onto others - after all a 1/3 is better than a 50/50... it works the same way for scum once it boils down.

    Which leads me to my conclusion:

    I think you and Mazer are probably scum. I think Mazer took it to 3 in case someone came and voted for you again and made it a 3-way-tie. He couldn't run the risk. I think you had Bert as cover if Judas flipped green, like you knew he would.

    My only niggle at the minute is Mazer trying to paint Judas as town.. and then you come in and vote for him. So either: You're not the scum team... or you are and Mazer is trying to throw off that he'd ever vote for Judas and if another town joins it he'll hammer him.


    God I woke up paranoid. This is probably all BS.

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    Either you’re paranoid or it’s good acting. I can’t help but notice Judas is the only one of us five you haven’t accused in this phase yet or at all. I could also be paranoid also but definitely a pattern.

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    HFR, nobody on either side liked your idea but you.

    I think you are a great player, you read role tactics exceptionally well, and your constant self deprecation against how good you are is kind of funny at this point. Especially thanks to cwes stats.

    But your strategy never got us to better than 33 percent odds on the lynch. And the randomizing took away seeing where people went. The fact that nobody even went a little positive on it should give you pause on using it as a litmus test. Maybe the rest of the players in this game missed something, but then I guess you didn't sell it well enough to compel, and I hope you'll consider factors beyond that strategy.

    Badger, I was looking at posts in the mafia games thread. This might be a bit out of line, but they're there. His posting about the game style. Could be mafia but a hunch.

    I still think the focus should be between Judas and timesplitter.

    I'll go with either, but think it would be good if people check in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    HFR, nobody on either side liked your idea but you.
    Which you would only know if you were scum.

    GOTTEM

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    Or I know because everybody posted and nobody liked it? And 5 other players didn't go for it?

    Good hell man.

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    I don't think HFR is scum, but I know nothing at this point.

    If Badger isn't scum, then its surprising that no scum has jumped on his vote. Unless Judas is scum.

    Certainly unlikely that both are.


    HFR could be running a masterclass on confusion, but if Judas is scum, I don't think he is.

    I have no strong reads between timesplitter and anyone.

    But if Judas is, I have timesplitter as his most likely partner.

    I haven't gotten anyone else's thoughts on Judas on the other thread.

    If it's Judas, I think it's is probably ts as number 2. If it's ts, I'm not sure who the other is.

    My gut/read says its ts, but if badger and hfr both prefer Judas I'll probably go that way, and tip my cap if they outplayed me (not a major accomplishment).

    I'm curious how Judas would vote.

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    Well this game ends this phase.. one way or another.

    No ones chattering, which makes it difficult to .. do anything really.

    In the absence of any discussion then Judas gets lynched cos of Badger's vote.

    I'm going to bed and I'm faaaaaaaairly sure everyone's had a chance to look in (albeit it is a Saturday).

    I'm tempted to just vote for judas just to expedite the end game so I know.. else I might dream about it.

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    Mmhmm nothing.

    Good Times.

    Part of me wants to vote for you Mazer just so you vote for me and this goes to a 3 way tie for lols

    But then a bigger part of me just thinks to end it with judas.

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    This is turning out like a pool party and I’m the only one brave enough to get in the pool (ie voting). Unless Judas really is town and the real scum are abstaining just hoping for a 1-0.

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    HFR, I definitely understand the temptation. I thought that last post might be a lure to see if anyone jumped on me. If you want to force random, go to.

    I can't shake the feeling that scum are ok with where this is at. And hence no motion.

    If we end up lynching Judas and he is scum, I've votes to preserve him twice. You all should kill me.

    Just kill timesplitter after I flip town. Hurray team win

    For me, I think Judas and timesplitter are the most likely.

    Timesplitter is the one that I think is in the greatest number of probable pairings.

    But between Judas s complaints about a vanilla game in the mafia games thread (I think Jp would have modkilled him) and my sense is that scum is not forcing anything right now.

    Vote timesplitter.

    2 of you are scum. I hope I'm right.

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    Seems like a last hour attempt to shift focus off of yourself. You and HFR have really pulled the wool over our eyes.

    Vote Mazer

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    That makes me feel more confident.

    If HFr and I were somehow working together as bad guys, we definitely would have hammered Judas.

    I think we got it. I think it's you and Judas now.

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    Well, since we are past the 48 hour mark I guess the three of us are goners.

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    I believe it randomly draws between us. I think 2 died

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    Sorry, but I’ll do this in the morning. Too tired right now

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    VOTE Mazer

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    Judas voting too late not unlike Romeo was too late to realise Juliet wasn’t dead.

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    Vote count (as of cut off time):
    Judas - 1 (Badger)
    Mazer - 1 (TimeSplitter)

    time to roll a die.

    - - - Updated - - -

    my dice are at work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    HFR, I definitely understand the temptation. I thought that last post might be a lure to see if anyone jumped on me. If you want to force random, go to.

    I can't shake the feeling that scum are ok with where this is at. And hence no motion.

    If we end up lynching Judas and he is scum, I've votes to preserve him twice. You all should kill me.

    Just kill timesplitter after I flip town. Hurray team win

    For me, I think Judas and timesplitter are the most likely.

    Timesplitter is the one that I think is in the greatest number of probable pairings.

    But between Judas s complaints about a vanilla game in the mafia games thread (I think Jp would have modkilled him) and my sense is that scum is not forcing anything right now.

    Vote timesplitter.

    2 of you are scum. I hope I'm right.
    @Stan Accy. My vote for timesplitter was before 48

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    Flipping a coin... heads Judas, tails Mazer

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    FUCK, Virtual dice it is.
    Judas - 1 (Badger) 1-2
    TimeSplitter - 1 (Mazer) 3-4
    Mazer -1 (TimeSplitter)
    5-6

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    ENDGAME


    TimeSplitter and Mazer face off.

    -You rat-catcher, will you walk?
    -What wouldst thou have with me?
    -Good king of cats, nothing but one of your nine lives; that I mean to make bold withal, and as you shall use me hereafter, drybeat the rest of the eight. Will you pluck your sword out of his pitcher by the ears? make haste, lest mine be about your ears ere it be out.
    -I am for you.
    -Gentle Mercutio, put thy rapier up.
    -Come, sir, your passado.

    As they duel, Judas draws the knife he had planned to use in the suicide pact, and stabs Mazer in the back.

    -Ay, ay, a scratch, a scratch; marry, 'tis enough.Where is my page? Go, villain, fetch a surgeon.

    Mercutio lies dying as TimeSplitter and Judas embrace and ride off into the sunset.

    A glooming peace this morning with it brings;
    The sun, for sorrow, will not show his head:
    Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things;
    Some shall be pardon'd, and some punished:
    For never was a story of more woe
    Than this of Juliet and her Romeo.
    Romeo and Juliet, Act V Scene III

    Your winners:
    TimeSplitter - Romeo
    Judas - Juliet


    Surviving losers:
    Badger -Paris
    HFR - Tybalt


    Notes to follow. Thanks to all participants.

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    Good game fellas.

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    Yeah not our fault HFR can’t keep his eyes open.

    Fun climax though.

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    I could have tried to switch votes, but when I pulled it up I was right at deadline.

    2 out of 3 didn't work out.

    My psych impression wasn't good enough

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    I'm can't say I'm happy about rolling a dice for the game to end, but that's the rod I set for my back. The original setup didn't have limits on day phases, but I figured we might be still in the first phase if you couldn't reach a majority.

    Mafiawiki gives a 60% scum win rate but the odds were against them here, another dice roll and town could have won it. And if Judas hadn't pulled a Virm we wouldn't have needed the roll.

    I've got ideas for another three lovers micro-mafia, time to learn lessons moving forward.

    Lovers chat:
    https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/8R5qn8kSsxVF
    Last edited by Stan Accy; August 16th, 2020 at 7:46 AM.

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    If Judas would’ve been active we could’ve won decisively but oh well. Good game everyone. Fun idea Stan

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    We can all agree that the judas award has now taken my place.

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    Yeah I fucked up badly.

    Embarrassing.

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    STILL WON THOUGH

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    And this is why I always say I'm crap at reading people............ not a clue.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot View Post
    Again guys I don't post a ton and I've never done a spreadsheet. Maybe I should for a micro game.

    I'd hate to off Bert his first game back, but I played in enough games with him over the years for him to know I'm one of the quieter players.

    VOTE Bert
    Quote Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot View Post
    Yes I voted for Bert due to a completely stupid reason because I didn't realize it had been that long since he played. I myself haven't played or been on these forums in in over a year so my idea of time is warped. If I could take that vote back, I would, but I can't.

    Additionally I was never great at reading people through their posts.
    Was this not obvious? Clear lies and crocodile tears.

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    I would have been a lot more inclined to play more strategically if I was actually mafia, no power role games just aren't fun for me.

    Also, I was right about Judas. Mazer picked wrong. Cheers Badger.

    I'd be happy to play another stan game if he added some power roles.

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    I honestly thought TS was scum, and there were thoughts he was with Judas, but I couldn't rule out badger.

    After n1 I was pretty solid on HFR being town. The Bert vote wase trying to vet him.

    And I honestly didn't know which way to go on that one. Obviously went wrong.

    I was trying to check my phone while out, and should have just pivoted to Judas quicker. You live you learn, buy if the coin flipped differently we had 2.

    Good job TS not rising to any of the bait.

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    I liked that this game forced me out of my comfort zone.

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    You can never rule out badger.

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    According to da stats my town record is pretty good considering I’ve not played as much as most. 64.29%

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