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    The snag is with the combo of quick chains, a three voter (DAMN THAT'S WILD) and the timer going off the cop not stepping in one way or the other might be a simple as they were asleep or someone who still has to go to work. I don't know about you between drive time and not just rushing to my computer at days end the idea of going nine hours without being at my computer isn't hard to fathom. Especially the first two days or so when a cop might not out themselves just out of self interest. A D1 cop is 100% dependent on the doctor to sit on them and that scum don't have a watcher to find the doctor and kill them.

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    I think we need to be aware of what’s happening here, make sure our roles get a chance to share what they know and let us get a cohesive plan together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_Jones View Post
    Yet you chose to lynch JP by unvoting for him?!?
    Ya because leaving my vote on psycho and them both getting lynched was a way better option.

    Get the fuck outta here with your blame game

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    In fact if I would of left my vote on psycho there is a good chance the result would of been the same since psycho appeared to have immunity.

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    4gr33d with b0th 0f y0u. Th3 tim3 h4s t0 b3 f4ct0r3d in. F0rtun4t3ly f0r m3, I 4m 4n ins0mni4c.

    If y0u m4k3 4n 4ggr3ssiv3 m0v3, h4v3 4 pl4n 0r 3ls3 y0u’ll b3 d34ling with f4st r34cti0ns. If y0u’r3 t0wn, d0n’t f0rc3 th3 c0p t0 sl4p y0u 0v3r th3 h34d. I’m still n0t c0nvinc3d th4t w4sn’t 4 scum m0v3 t0 f0rc3 4 r3v34l.


    Rip g3ts t0 p0st lik3 4 n0rm4l p3rs0n n0w. Fucking g00d f0r y0u Rip. L4h d33 fucking d4h

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    I think Mazer has the same issue that Cam Newton does on his twitter account

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    I feel decent about JP flipping scum, though some of his posts looking back give me pause. If he's not scum, though, we should look into that train hard.

    I have some thoughts and notes I've been taking over the day phase, and I'm compiling some vote info. But I'm gonna keep tight-lipped for now just because I'm not in a sharing mood.

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    I will say thinking about it, if Caito is indeed Bruno, I have trouble buying that as a scum role. The ability to hand out two extra votes can be abused so easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I feel decent about JP flipping scum, though some of his posts looking back give me pause. If he's not scum, though, we should look into that train hard.

    I have some thoughts and notes I've been taking over the day phase, and I'm compiling some vote info. But I'm gonna keep tight-lipped for now just because I'm not in a sharing mood.

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    I will say thinking about it, if Caito is indeed Bruno, I have trouble buying that as a scum role. The ability to hand out two extra votes can be abused so easily.

    Th3 night 1 writ3-up s33ms t0 sp3cific4lly m3nti0n Brun0 d3ciding n0t t0 4ct. Th4t’s unc0mm0n.

    4ny th30ri3s?

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    If we work with your idea that Bruno decided not to act maybe he has some odd power we haven't seen before. Normally not using a power would just mean that you don't show up at all. My gut would tell me he's scum who for whatever reason was scared of getting caught though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Th3 night 1 writ3-up s33ms t0 sp3cific4lly m3nti0n Brun0 d3ciding n0t t0 4ct. Th4t’s unc0mm0n.

    4ny th30ri3s?
    If he has the ability to hand out beefy votes to other people, I'd imagine he'd be hesitant to give that to anybody on N1. Look at how it almost single-handedly decided my lynch. It could also be an EN ability or something of that nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    If he has the ability to hand out beefy votes to other people, I'd imagine he'd be hesitant to give that to anybody on N1. Look at how it almost single-handedly decided my lynch. It could also be an EN ability or something of that nature.
    S0und p0int, h0w3v3r…

    Usu4lly if its 3v3n night 4bility, th3 p3rs0n just d03sn’t 4pp34r in th3 writ3-up 4t 4ll. In4cti0n usu4lly d03sn’t 4pp34r in th3 writ3-up.

    F0r th3 night 1 writ3-up, 0nly 4n4kin 4nd Brun0 w3r3 writt3n up with0ut b3ing 4ctiv3. This d3spit3 th3r3 still b3ing 4 high numb3r 0f un4cc0unt3d f0r r0l3s.

    S33ms p0t3nti4lly signific4nt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    S0und p0int, h0w3v3r…

    Usu4lly if its 3v3n night 4bility, th3 p3rs0n just d03sn’t 4pp34r in th3 writ3-up 4t 4ll. In4cti0n usu4lly d03sn’t 4pp34r in th3 writ3-up.

    F0r th3 night 1 writ3-up, 0nly 4n4kin 4nd Brun0 w3r3 writt3n up with0ut b3ing 4ctiv3. This d3spit3 th3r3 still b3ing 4 high numb3r 0f un4cc0unt3d f0r r0l3s.

    S33ms p0t3nti4lly signific4nt.
    For some reason, I forgot Bruno was in the N1 write-up. I even added him a second time to my spreadsheet.

    That to me reads like he targeted the hider. That's definitely what happened with Anakin.

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    I believe we're waiting on one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    S0und p0int, h0w3v3r…

    Usu4lly if its 3v3n night 4bility, th3 p3rs0n just d03sn’t 4pp34r in th3 writ3-up 4t 4ll. In4cti0n usu4lly d03sn’t 4pp34r in th3 writ3-up.

    F0r th3 night 1 writ3-up, 0nly 4n4kin 4nd Brun0 w3r3 writt3n up with0ut b3ing 4ctiv3. This d3spit3 th3r3 still b3ing 4 high numb3r 0f un4cc0unt3d f0r r0l3s.

    S33ms p0t3nti4lly signific4nt.
    Bruno
    looks at the numbers on his sheet and ponders. Tonight was not the night. He'd wait till tomorrow and see if he couldn't add more value.
    Maybe for every inactive night, he adds one vote to eventually be given. i.e. If he's acted on N1, someone would have got 2 votes.

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    I think when you factor in the unaccounted roles and we'll find out for sure on N4 if not N3 the Hardy bros might be tag team champions and we could easily have more even odd couples floating around. Which still doesn't answer what's up with Bruno and Annie but my priority remains finding the gesture, he's a threat to us and scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Accy View Post
    [COLOR=#DDA0DD]

    Maybe for every inactive night, he adds one vote to eventually be given. i.e. If he's acted on N1, someone would have got 2 votes.
    Oooh, this actually might be on the money here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Accy View Post
    [COLOR=#DDA0DD]

    Maybe for every inactive night, he adds one vote to eventually be given. i.e. If he's acted on N1, someone would have got 2 votes.
    I lik3 this th30ry.

    I s4w th4t v4ri4nt 0n th3 d0ubl3-v0t3r r0l3.

    Grim is using s0m3 unc0mm0n r0l3s. W3’v3 h4d 4n 4ct0r 4nd 4 gl4di4t0r (4 v3ry p0w3rful r0l3).

    W3 n33d t0 think 0utsid3 th3 b0x 0n wh4t h3 might b3 using.

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    I was bad

    Promise wasn’t intentional

    Back to it

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    Waiting on one more. Miscounted earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Accy View Post
    [COLOR=#DDA0DD]

    Maybe for every inactive night, he adds one vote to eventually be given. i.e. If he's acted on N1, someone would have got 2 votes.
    JP only got two votes.

    He had three because he still had his own.

    I think that's what you meant but I wanted to clarify just in case

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    Everybody singalong.

    One more role
    One more role
    I've been trying ooh so long to let you know
    Let you know how I feel
    And if I stumble if I fall, just help me back
    So I can make you see


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    I've also seen it mentioned a few times but why on earth would we lynch a character named jester?

    It seems really silly

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    Although... Maybe that's how we clear up who is scum and who is town character wise.

    From reading a bit on jesters it's normal to give town a boost when the jester is killed

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    Half tempted to go SORRY ROBERT PAULSON, YOU MISS OUT TONIGHT.


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    Write up incoming.

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    President Bauer shakes his head and confirms Anakin Porter's demise.

    The leaves once more shift in the wind... but there is corruption there now, amongst the chaos. And underneath it all, JP is revealed.

    JP has been lynched. He was Anakin Porter, bus driver.

    It was getting too much for Calypso so inside another house she would go. As she climbed through the window, Mikey_Jones was met with a fencing sword and Ron Bellamy's dirty moustache.

    Mikey_Jones has been killed. He was Calypso, Hider.

    Bruno tallies the latest votes and shakes his head. Not tonight, no. Not tonight. Not after yesterday's debacle.

    Billy Strange sticks his head out into the waiting room and calls on Caito to join him.

    Kevlar Peredo pulls kdestiny into a room and interrogates him.

    The Jester bounces around once more, throwing a wave towards CWE and another towards Fro.

    From a distance, Frank Hardly watches CWE with a wry smile. "The science of induction has lead me to a most wonderful conculsion!" he whispers to himself.

    Arnold Benedict once more tries to decipher the encrypted codes. He spots one he thinks is about The Doc and sends it to Psycho immediately.

    Ron Bellamy isn't finished though, as he wipes the blood splatter off his stained white singlet. Fro wasn't even paying attention when the door opened. And why should he? This is the oval office and he should be protected. The fencing sword once again does its duty and President Bauer is no more.

    Fro has been killed. He was President Jack Bauer, Vote JOAT.

    Day 4 begins.

    24 hours + 96 remaining, but we all know time can't be trusted by now, right?

    1. Mazer
    2. Psycho666Soldier
    3. Jarrod
    4. Pablo
    5. Rip
    6. CWE
    7. Vrim
    8. The Doc
    9. JP - Anakin Porter, bus driver
    10. Kdestiny
    11. HFR - Remington Diamond, Actor
    12. BBF - Judge Trudy, Gladiator Variant
    13. Caito
    14. Stan
    15. Jordo
    16. TimeSplitter
    17. Mikey - Calypso, hider
    18. Fro - President Bauer, Vote JOAT


    13 left, 7 to lynch.
    Last edited by Grimario; April 16th, 2020 at 8:02 PM.

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    Who wants to Lynch another scum?

    Vote kdestiny

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    This is not a Caito

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    Also, Mikey probably his behind Mazer

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    Mikey was our hider and put a vote on Mazer.

    Let's tie this shit and kill them both

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    Vote mazer

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    kdestiny - 1 (Psycho)
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    Anyone got any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    Mikey was our hider and put a vote on Mazer.

    Let's tie this shit and kill them both

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    Vote mazer
    Hold up now. While this was my first thought process, Mazer could potentially be a vig.

    Also potentially an SK, which could be Ron Bellamy's role, so this might still be a good path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    Anyone got any thoughts?
    Kdestiny is unfriendly, that's what.

    I have other thoughts, too, but this one is most important.

    We don't have to rush it yet. We can talk. But don't let the man off the hook.

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    How do you get Mikey his behind me?

    I went to the mat with no vowels to help keep you off the lunch train.

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    Jordo, to clarify, the main reason I'm hesitant on sussing Mazer is because he was willing to vote JP.

    But like I said, if Ron Bellamy is an SK, then I could buy it.

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    Fair enough

    Vote : kdestiny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    How do you get Mikey his behind me?

    I went to the mat with no vowels to help keep you off the lunch train.
    Which I appreciate, and why I don't think you're scum. There no reason to bus JP there.

    But Ron Bellamy is a questionable entity and Mikey's only real suspicion was saying he had a hunch on you and voted that way.

    He could have his completely against his suspicion. It's happened. But I feel like Mikey is experienced enough to know the proper protocol.

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    kdestiny - 2 (Psycho, Rip)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Jordo, to clarify, the main reason I'm hesitant on sussing Mazer is because he was willing to vote JP.

    But like I said, if Ron Bellamy is an SK, then I could buy it.
    I can't look right now because I'm busy but when did he vote? With the time line shortening and such he could of got caught off guard.

    Also caito, what the fuck do we about about caito

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    THE JESTER IS A DICK!!!!!!
    I WANT HIM DEAD!!!!!
    VOTE KDESTINY!!!!!


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    I am not a vig. I can guarantee that I'm not who you think I am.

    I voted for Caito, because I read him as being a problem. But I didn't swing on Caito, I kept Psych off the train, by going after JP. I've seen psych play town before, and his ongoing presence seems to be friendly towards town. From that starting point, I read JP.

    I called out the bus driver as a scum role. I can see why some of you might not have wanted to bother reading those posts, as they were an eyesore.

    But let's not miss what's right in front of us.

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    kdestiny - 3 (Psycho, Rip, CWE)
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    Jp's logic on psych was weak from the start.

    He called out Caito, and then immediately switched. Never went back to it again. Bruno (quite probably Caito) gave an extra vote to Catio, which he immediately used against Psych.

    This after leading the false lynch on HFR.



    Jordo was in on the Psych lynch early. He jumped right on me. WHo he knows is town. He did back off the JP lunch, but it looked like a tie at that point and JP dies in a tie. That could be a classic save yourself bail.

    Not there yet, but its a possibility.

    I'm willing to back kdestiny, but we need to look at Caito quickly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    I can't look right now because I'm busy but when did he vote? With the time line shortening and such he could of got caught off guard.

    Also caito, what the fuck do we about about caito
    Ok, to be fair, he did vote JP up to 3 votes when I was still at 5. So it's possible he didn't think people would unvote and wanted to get some late-game cred. But I dunno, I also had felt that most of his thoughts were too involved to be part of a team.

    Doesn't stop him from potentially being an SK, because the advantage of being neutral is you're ultimately still trying to sleuth the game to know who scum is, so you don't look as easily scummy.

    I have a strong feeling Caito is probably just town considering his role. With a scum bus driver being confirmed, it's possible that Mazer called the play of intentionally targeting Caito knowing that the bus driver would swap to me, but that also would have to mean that Evan Almighty is for sure a scum kill.

    Regardless, I think I'd rather leave Caito to either be outed through night info or lynch another day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    Mikey was our hider and put a vote on Mazer.

    Let's tie this shit and kill them both

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    Vote mazer
    At least read my posts before trying to kill me you maniac.

    Cause I guarantee JP is promising to kill me every night 1 in the dead chat right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I am not a vig. I can guarantee that I'm not who you think I am.

    I voted for Caito, because I read him as being a problem. But I didn't swing on Caito, I kept Psych off the train, by going after JP. I've seen psych play town before, and his ongoing presence seems to be friendly towards town. From that starting point, I read JP.

    I called out the bus driver as a scum role. I can see why some of you might not have wanted to bother reading those posts, as they were an eyesore.

    But let's not miss what's right in front of us.
    I definitely read those posts, and I actually scoffed at kdestiny and Fro just going, "Uhhh," which is why I was suspicious of kdestiny in the first place. Like I said, I think the odds of you being scum are very low. That said, you didn't outright say, "I'm not an SK and/or Ron Bellamy." Remember when Caito did something similar in your game?

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    Do people think Calypso and Jack Bauer are ACTUALLY neutral? Unlike when BBF was killed, they're roles were revealed. It wouldn't be the first time we've had a neutral hider, and I could see the vote JOAT being a neutral role.

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    Evan seems much more like a vig to me than Ron. Ron reads like a serial killer or a scum killer.

    I have read your posts and I had a town read on you but I also know you're a good player and my town read based on your talk is very easily bullshit. Or you're nuetral and a SK which would totally explain a town read on your posts

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    Also, for what it's worth, I have noted that Jordo both voted me when he admitted it would be a wasted vote and went to vote someone other than the dude we have concrete info on, but I can also buy that he didn't want a quick pile-up, because otherwise I've had a fairly solid townread on him.

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    That was directed at mazer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Also, for what it's worth, I have noted that Jordo both voted me when he admitted it would be a wasted vote and went to vote someone other than the dude we have concrete info on, but I can also buy that he didn't want a quick pile-up, because otherwise I've had a fairly solid townread on him.
    I want to lynch them both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Do people think Calypso and Jack Bauer are ACTUALLY neutral? Unlike when BBF was killed, they're roles were revealed. It wouldn't be the first time we've had a neutral hider, and I could see the vote JOAT being a neutral role.
    I COULD SEE THEM BEING TOWN OR NEUTRAL!!!!
    I THINK THEY ARE TOWN THOUGH!!!
    MY GUESS IS THEY WILL BE REVEALED GOING INTO TONIGHT OR AT THE START OF THE NIGHT WRITE UP!!!
    JUST LIKE JP WAS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    Evan seems much more like a vig to me than Ron. Ron reads like a serial killer or a scum killer.

    I have read your posts and I had a town read on you but I also know you're a good player and my town read based on your talk is very easily bullshit. Or you're nuetral and a SK which would totally explain a town read on your posts
    Jordo townread strengthening.

    I fully agree that Ron reads to be working alone, and this last write-up painted him as more sinister. Evan's still up in the air as to whether he's a bad doctor, a vig, or scum kill. Less likely to be the SK between the two if we have one, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Do people think Calypso and Jack Bauer are ACTUALLY neutral? Unlike when BBF was killed, they're roles were revealed. It wouldn't be the first time we've had a neutral hider, and I could see the vote JOAT being a neutral role.
    EBWOP Their, goddamn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    I COULD SEE THEM BEING TOWN OR NEUTRAL!!!!
    I THINK THEY ARE TOWN THOUGH!!!
    MY GUESS IS THEY WILL BE REVEALED GOING INTO TONIGHT OR AT THE START OF THE NIGHT WRITE UP!!!
    JUST LIKE JP WAS!!!
    I would normally think this, but the fact that their roles were revealed unlike BBF makes me think that maybe that purple is their actual alignment.

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    Caito is town

    JP bad call

    will be better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I would normally think this, but the fact that their roles were revealed unlike BBF makes me think that maybe that purple is their actual alignment.
    GOOD POINT!!!!

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    I had this in my notes specifically about Caito. Not sure if I posted these exact words, so figure I should reiterate.

    Honestly, looking at it, if Caito is Bruno, I think he's probably town. I don't think giving people extra votes would be a scum power as that could be way too easily abused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Caito is town

    JP bad call

    will be better
    Wait...are you still post restricted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I had this in my notes specifically about Caito. Not sure if I posted these exact words, so figure I should reiterate.

    Honestly, looking at it, if Caito is Bruno, I think he's probably town. I don't think giving people extra votes would be a scum power as that could be way too easily abused.
    THIS!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I definitely read those posts, and I actually scoffed at kdestiny and Fro just going, "Uhhh," which is why I was suspicious of kdestiny in the first place. Like I said, I think the odds of you being scum are very low. That said, you didn't outright say, "I'm not an SK and/or Ron Bellamy." Remember when Caito did something similar in your game?
    Let's go back to the post where I was very obviously right about Anakin being a scum bus driver. If you were a serial killer, why would you want to eliminate caito? There's at least a good possibility he's scum. Which probably works better for Bellamy to kill town than scum. At least he's a high probability future lynch. Why kill caito?


    Here's a more direct theory. JP was correct in pointing out that it would be weird for scum to kill Caito, as he was a decent probability lynch at that point. Maybe JP assumed he was good enough to move the conversation, and revisit it later. That's a bit indirect for our boy. It seems a lot more probable that he had Bellamy target caito, knowing that he was going to switch you and Caito.

    Its a lot more probable that Bellamy is scum.


    Also: Maybe JP knew he would get the Bruno nod or maybe he didn't. Given JP had called out Caito specifically, it seems weird that if Caito is Bruno, he would choose JP for 2 votes randomly, given that public skepticism.

    But whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Wait...are you still post restricted?

    I am unsure


    hasnt been confirmed.

    not taking chances.

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    It's notable that CWE chose to vote Rip and completely avoid the topic at hand(voting me, JP or Caito) instead of scum JP. He was so excited to vote JP on D2 when he could, and when JP was in no heat whatsoever. But just avoiding the subject when JP is an actually viable lynch?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    It's notable that CWE chose to vote Rip and completely avoid the topic at hand(voting me, JP or Caito) instead of scum JP. He was so excited to vote JP on D2 when he could, and when JP was in no heat whatsoever. But just avoiding the subject when JP is an actually viable lynch?

    MY BAD!!!!
    ILL AVOID FUCKING UP ANYMORE!!!
    TRUST ME!!!!
    I AM TOWN!!!!

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    Shit. I got mixed up. It was Evan that targetted you.


    NEver mind. Evan is scum. Bellamy could be whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Let's go back to the post where I was very obviously right about Anakin being a scum bus driver. If you were a serial killer, why would you want to eliminate caito? There's at least a good possibility he's scum. Which probably works better for Bellamy to kill town than scum. At least he's a high probability future lynch. Why kill caito?


    Here's a more direct theory. JP was correct in pointing out that it would be weird for scum to kill Caito, as he was a decent probability lynch at that point. Maybe JP assumed he was good enough to move the conversation, and revisit it later. That's a bit indirect for our boy. It seems a lot more probable that he had Bellamy target caito, knowing that he was going to switch you and Caito.

    Its a lot more probable that Bellamy is scum.


    Also: Maybe JP knew he would get the Bruno nod or maybe he didn't. Given JP had called out Caito specifically, it seems weird that if Caito is Bruno, he would choose JP for 2 votes randomly, given that public skepticism.

    But whatever.
    Bellamy didn't kill Caito, though?

    I'm not sure if you're doing some masterful "cleared for being mistaken" play, but this tells me in the least that you're probably not Ron Bellamy.

    I'll have to go back and look at JP's posts, I guess, but again, scum having the ability to give their team 3, maybe more votes at a time? That's a game-breaking power on their side.

    To be clear, though, Serial Killer's need to kill scum as well. Unlike your version in BMW, usually SK has to win individually which means outliving the scum before they can gain voting majority. So while you want them alive long enough to do some of your dirty work, you have to start trying to kill them slowly by D3. Not saying this invalidates your theory, it's more for future reference.

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    I'm still not convinced caito/Bruno is clean.

    I understand the logic with it being too powerful for scum but if it was a 1 shot... It wouldn't be stupidly over powered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I would normally think this, but the fact that their roles were revealed unlike BBF makes me think that maybe that purple is their actual alignment.
    BBF was literally just me screwing up and not following my own game rules. Don't read anything into it. Purple is not their alignment unless otherwise stated.

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    Ok, so if we were to assume Mazer isn't scum or an SK, and Mikey did hide behind him, is there any other explanation for why he would die? Because honestly, that mix-up, to me, gives a strong hint that he's neither Ron Bellamy, Evan, OR someone who is teamed with either role.

    Otherwise, it's possible Mikey hid behind someone else, it's just hard to believe he would have swapped like that.

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    Did Mikey leave other breadcrumbs before he hid?

    Does his voting match up with where the hider went?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    I'm still not convinced caito/Bruno is clean.

    I understand the logic with it being too powerful for scum but if it was a 1 shot... It wouldn't be stupidly over powered
    He was in tonight's write-up. It's not a 1-shot. MAYBE a 2-shot. But regardless, if you're not convinced, I'm not going to waste a lot of breath on it right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    BBF was literally just me screwing up and not following my own game rules. Don't read anything into it. Purple is not their alignment unless otherwise stated.
    Thanks for that.


    With that being said, I agree with CWE that both were likely town. Though I could see Calypso actually being neutral potentially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Ok, so if we were to assume Mazer isn't scum or an SK, and Mikey did hide behind him, is there any other explanation for why he would die? Because honestly, that mix-up, to me, gives a strong hint that he's neither Ron Bellamy, Evan, OR someone who is teamed with either role.

    Otherwise, it's possible Mikey hid behind someone else, it's just hard to believe he would have swapped like that.
    IF HE IS BELLAMY AND WAS HIDDEN BEHIND!!!
    AND HE ISNT SCUM OR SK!!!
    BELLAMY COULD BE TOWN!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    I am unsure


    hasnt been confirmed.

    not taking chances.
    You are free
    To post as
    you wish, Caito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    IF HE IS BELLAMY AND WAS HIDDEN BEHIND!!!
    AND HE ISNT SCUM OR SK!!!
    BELLAMY COULD BE TOWN!!!
    But Mazer claims to not be a vig. If he's town, he'd have no reason to lie about that. So I don't know about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    Did Mikey leave other breadcrumbs before he hid?

    Does his voting match up with where the hider went?
    Had a look.

    At best, you could maybe say he hinted at targeting Pablo on D1?

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    CWE, are you not drinking tequila? You seem a bit off this game.

    And no, I don't mean the colorful posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    But Mazer claims to not be a vig. If he's town, he'd have no reason to lie about that. So I don't know about that.

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    Had a look.

    At best, you could maybe say he hinted at targeting Pablo on D1?

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    CWE, are you not drinking tequila? You seem a bit off this game.

    And no, I don't mean the colorful posts.
    NEEDED TO GET MY BEARINGS!!!
    AND WHEN I DIE!!!
    YOULL SEE JUST HOW OFF MY GAME WAS!!!
    AGAIN ILL TRY TO FIX THAT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Ok, so if we were to assume Mazer isn't scum or an SK, and Mikey did hide behind him, is there any other explanation for why he would die? Because honestly, that mix-up, to me, gives a strong hint that he's neither Ron Bellamy, Evan, OR someone who is teamed with either role.

    Otherwise, it's possible Mikey hid behind someone else, it's just hard to believe he would have swapped like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_Jones View Post
    The phrasing here concerns me slightly - "out" my triple vote when the write-up strongly alluded to it.

    I agree that Caito would have been a weird choice for a scum kill though, considering his lynching vote

    I'm conscious of the ramifications of not voting, and this is more of a hunch than anything

    Vote Mazer
    Mikey didn't hide behind me.


    Explain it like I'm obtuse. If Mikey thought I could be scum, and obviously he dies if he hides behind a killer, how does your theory make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Let's go back to the post where I was very obviously right about Anakin being a scum bus driver. If you were a serial killer, why would you want to eliminate caito? There's at least a good possibility he's scum. Which probably works better for Bellamy to kill town than scum. At least he's a high probability future lynch. Why kill caito?


    Here's a more direct theory. JP was correct in pointing out that it would be weird for scum to kill Caito, as he was a decent probability lynch at that point. Maybe JP assumed he was good enough to move the conversation, and revisit it later. That's a bit indirect for our boy. It seems a lot more probable that he had Bellamy target caito, knowing that he was going to switch you and Caito.

    Its a lot more probable that Bellamy is scum.


    Also: Maybe JP knew he would get the Bruno nod or maybe he didn't. Given JP had called out Caito specifically, it seems weird that if Caito is Bruno, he would choose JP for 2 votes randomly, given that public skepticism.

    But whatever.
    Ok, I think I finally get what you're saying here in the last paragraph. I realized you're talking about JP talking about Caito on the day before his lynch. JP said that she should pray, but didn't really outright call him suspicious or anything. If anything, that came off like JP trusted he was town, but knew he was in bad shape. Which, in retrospective, seems like a post that scum would make knowing that Caito was town. He was already preparing the white knight play, which could explain why they bus drove Caito intending to kill me instead.

    I dunno, I guess Caito could still be scum, but it just seems HIGHLY unlikely to me at this point.

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    WHAT INFO DID BENEDICT GIVE YOU ON DOC LAST NIGHT PSYCHO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Mikey didn't hide behind me.


    Explain it like I'm obtuse. If Mikey thought I could be scum, and obviously he dies if he hides behind a killer, how does your theory make sense?
    So, we haven't had many hiders since you've been playing, but we used to have them all the time. The point of a hider was to out the scum, because the traditional role dies behind any scum. So typically, a person would vote and hound one person all day, and then when they died the next night because of their hide target, you know who their target was.

    Mikey is old school and been around enough that he would know that's the strongest way to play a hider. In fact, we stopped using hiders as much because they became very easy to find scum.

    There's a chance he pivoted last second because he had a stronger choice, OR he didn't want to die yet and chose to hide behind someone else. But when he made his intentions so clear, it seems odd that he would go for a safe play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    WHAT INFO DID BENEDICT GIVE YOU ON DOC LAST NIGHT PSYCHO!!!
    Doc is a good egg. Leave him be.

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    That gladiator role is very powerful for town. We lost it early, which sucks. I'm going to assume scum has some powerful roles as well.


    I could go either way with Caito, but whoever can should take a look. Shouldn't just move on, like we've sometimes done previously

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    JUST REMEMBERED A DIFFERENT KILL ON HIDER!!!
    MORTAL KOMBAT!!!
    HIDER DIED BEHIND OUR RESURRECTION!!!


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    Doc is a good egg. Leave him be.
    LOGGED ON THE SPREADSHEET!!!
    THANK YOU FOR SHARING!!!!

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    For the record, because I compiled this yesterday

    Voted BBF: Caito, Rip
    Voted HFR Day 1: Me, Doc, Stan, kdestiny
    Didn't Vote Day 1: virm, HFR, JP, CWE, Timesplitter, Jarrod, Fro

    Voted HFR Day 2: Caito, JP, Mazer, Psycho, CWE, Jarrod, Jordo, kdestiny, Rip
    Off-wagon Day 2: Fro, Pablo, virm(voted his self?)

    Voted me: JP, Jordo(Unvoted later and initially did so knowing it was a wasted vote), Rip(switched to Fro later)
    Notably off-wagon with little to no reason: Mikey, CWE, Doc,

    This feels outdated with info from last night, but for those that want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    That gladiator role is very powerful for town. We lost it early, which sucks. I'm going to assume scum has some powerful roles as well.


    I could go either way with Caito, but whoever can should take a look. Shouldn't just move on, like we've sometimes done previously
    That's fair, and I kind of agree. But at this rate, I would definitely rather lynch him on solid info rather than presumptions of what scum plotted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    So, we haven't had many hiders since you've been playing, but we used to have them all the time. The point of a hider was to out the scum, because the traditional role dies behind any scum. So typically, a person would vote and hound one person all day, and then when they died the next night because of their hide target, you know who their target was.

    Mikey is old school and been around enough that he would know that's the strongest way to play a hider. In fact, we stopped using hiders as much because they became very easy to find scum.

    There's a chance he pivoted last second because he had a stronger choice, OR he didn't want to die yet and chose to hide behind someone else. But when he made his intentions so clear, it seems odd that he would go for a safe play.

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    Doc is a good egg. Leave him be.
    That makes more sense. But, now we know that he did die if he was wrong hiding. I think there's at least a decent chance that he didn't want to die yet,, and was worried. Or wanted to vet something else out.

    Understand the previous context, but the last couple games where we've had them, there have been more ongoing debates about clearing people via hider, which seems to indicate lately more people were using to validate town than find scum. Think its at least somewhat probable he played safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_Jones View Post
    Yet you chose to lynch JP by unvoting for him?!?
    As a reference, this was Mikey's other post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    As a reference, this was Mikey's other post.
    Oh yeah, I forgot that. So there's a chance he could have his behind Jordo, too

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    vote kdestiny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Oh yeah, I forgot that. So there's a chance he could have his behind Jordo, too
    JORDO UNVOTED YOU TO MAKE JP THE ONLY LYNCH YESTERDAY!!!!
    THAT MAKES HIM GOOD IN MY EYES!!!

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    Calm down CWE.


    I don't disagree with your point.


    Real fucking funny now innit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Calm down CWE.


    I don't disagree with your point.


    Real fucking funny now innit?
    DONT YOU TELL ME TO CALM DOWN!!!
    I AM CALM!!!!
    AND STARTING TO GET DRUNK!!!
    SO YOU BETTER DO YOUR JOBS SCUM!!!
    CURRENTLY HAVE 6 PEOPLE I WONT VOTE FOR AT THIS TIME!!!
    YOURE RUNNING OUT OF PLACES TO HIDE!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Real fucking funny now innit?
    A LITTLE!!!
    I THINK I GOT OFF A LITTLE EASY COMPARED TO YOURS!!!

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    This is what would happen if CWE became the Hulk.


    Scum, you're pretty much fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    A LITTLE!!!
    I THINK I GOT OFF A LITTLE EASY COMPARED TO YOURS!!!

    So do I. The first work email I typed this morning, I almost started replacing my e's.

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    Hi everyone,

    Just wanted to let you all know that I am not scum, not sure where things got mixed up but just wanted to pop in.

    Thanks!

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    So I still think Mazer is who Mikey hid behind. I can handle leaving him be till we have more.

    Unvote

    Vote kdes

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    Well with that stirring defense from the man

    Vote kdestiny

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    UNVOTE!!!!
    COULD THAT BE A JESTER ATTEMPT OR A SCUM ATTEMPT TO LOOK LIKE A JESTER!!!

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    PSYCHO!!!!
    IS YOUR DEES SOLID!!!
    AND YES THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A QUESTION!!!
    IF SO ILL HOP BACK ON!!!

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    I don't think so. We're voting based on psych's info. Wouldn't the jester just let it go?

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    The friendly/ not friendly dichotomy does worry me a bit about non-traditional roles.

    But I'm not sure how we'd get better info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    The friendly/ not friendly dichotomy does worry me a bit about non-traditional roles.

    But I'm not sure how we'd get better info.
    My only feeling is killing the jester. Probably can't lynch him but a death in another way could help.

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    Vote: CWE

    I think this is a fairly good bet, then I want Psycho and Virm though. Mostly Virm. He's scum.


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    I'll go ahead and defend my voting a bit.

    Truth is this game has me all over the place. My vote on psycho was because I believed JP at first. I then had misread the night phase and thought psycho was getting night immunity (read next as night). I left the vote because I wasn't really sure what to do even after I realized the immunity thing, and then I wasn't sure why my vote would even count if psycho had immunity.

    I jumped off the lynch when I realized time was running out. It was also right as I woke up.

    It looks scummy but I'm town. Probably won't get cleared of much since I'm powerless. I have a hair brained idea that when I confirmed my role I set off the vote but it's based on stuff I can't get into with out getting mod killed.

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