That was my point before.. What do we really have to lose.Originally Posted by Stan Accy
That was my point before.. What do we really have to lose.
If so, why haven't you voted?
Cos I want to see what happens if we do nothing.
Slightly more than 9 hours left.
Current voting:
9 hours for a scum to lynch me. Go for it. Becuase it doesn't look like town will do your job for you.
Nah, you're basically invincible.
Slightly more than 5 hours left.
Voting is still tied
Current voting:
Approximately 2 hours left
Voting is still tied
Current Voting:
I am a little worried what could end up happening, but I think this is the best course of action.
Guess we will find out soon enough.
I’m certainly not voting for CWE. If that harms my immunity, so be it.
If cwe pops up scum this game he will most definitely be the #1 target for the rest of mafia.
Deal.
As the day ended, the community circled. They were befuddled as to the source of these machinations. No support was given, and no attacks were made
CWE and Caito were resolute in their desires. Even though their might was equal, there would be resolution
CWE has died. He was Topanga. Town Aligned-doc
Lotjx has died, he was Eric-Town-aligned JOAT
Fro has died, he was Morgan 2-Town-aligned EN Watcher
CWE has died. He was Topanga. Town Aligned-doc
15 remain
1. virmicious
2. Badger
4. JP
5. Caito
6. HFR
7. Jordo
8. Pablo
9. Stan
10. TimeSplitter
13. Rip
14. Jarrod1983
15. The Doc
16. BBF
17. Kdestiny
18. Kangus
15 Remain
End Day 2
Topanga had died. Perfect, noble Topanga
Family and friends....dead.
Would the friends be able to avenge these deaths? Would Stuart and his cronies end their entire world?
We'll find out....after these messages
Begin Night 2
Night 2 will last for 24 hours. Please send me any role powers you will be using during that time. If you are choosing not to act, and you are eligible to do so, please send me a note indicating that you will not be acting during this phase.
Fuck. Our cop.
sorry CWE
That's some bullshit. Definitely a scum move, and Caito, the finger's pointing at you.
EBWOP That's not to say you are scum, but certainly under suspicion.
Shit
That was not good.
Apologies for my suggestion slowing down the game.
Twas trying to think of a way this could of been triggered thematically but CWE being Topanga eliminates most of those I can think of.
Surely appears to be a scum ploy or a very very bad town play.
Gotta be a scum play.
They pick the guy with immunity, and a strong player they know isn’t scum, and hope they get a big role.
And they did, Stan looking at me now suspect. Worst part is I can’t blame him, it’s why I said from the beginning this was a setup.
CWE being the cop makes it so much worse.
Uh not cop. Doc. We just lost our protection. We should still have our cop at least but theres also possibly a problem with that.
Christ. The doc, you are right.
I got really confused, cuz I thought you were calling me Doc, and then when I saw what my mistake was..... I feel as dumb as Doc looks sometimes
I can't believe the cop is dead. This was basically a vig kill.
Are you all drunk??
Has everyone turned into me? I am the motherfucker that doesnt read! ASK JP
Did I really call him the cop as well.
Jesus.
The Doc.
My vig comment still stands.
Seems like this misreading this is contagious!
Seriously though, not good at all. Scum and neutral killers now on the loose with no doctor protection left plus if the town vig doesn't get this right we could really be fucked here. Gotta get our thinking caps on!
About 6 hours left to get your role in.
If you are choosing not to act, please let me know via pm.
As night fell on campus, the friends knew that they needed to act.
Mr. Turner was the first to spring into action. He knew that he, with his leather jacket, could relate to these kids in a way nobody else could. He decided that kdestiny needed his hip wisdom. This ensured that kdestiny could take no other actions this night.
Angela also would take action, following Jordo for the night.
Cory was overcome at the loss of his beloved Topanga. He would find the culprit. He decided to interrogate JP.
With so many dead, a call went out. The kids needed the other cool teacher. Eli arrived, not a moment too soon. He decided to find out who exactly Mr. Caito's part in all this was.
Jack swore vengeance. He would avenge his brother. As he looked for a target for his fury, he caught kangus unaware. After the pummeling was over, kangus was no more.
Stuart was in befuddled by how well his plan had come together. Taking a moment to compose himself, he decided that he wanted to no more about what Kangus was up to. He took the id off Kangus's dead body.
Lauren was quite pleased with herself. Where to take her attention next? She decided that jordo would likely fall victim to her advances. Her kiss left him powerless.
Harley was on a roll. He was on top again. And BBF would not stop his fun. Harley ended him. Permanently.
Minkus laughed at the chaos and suffering. But who did he hear laughing at him? STAN! STAN HAD TO DIE!
Lotjx has died, he was Eric-Town-aligned JOAT
Fro has died, he was Morgan 2-Town-aligned EN Watcher
CWE has died. He was Topanga. Town Aligned-doc
Kangus has died. He was Sabrina the Teenage Witch-Town Aligned Wild Card
BBF has died. He was Cory-Town-aligned Cop
Stan has died. He was Morgan 1-Town-aligned watcher.
1. virmicious
2. Badger
4. JP
5. Caito
6. HFR
7. Jordo
8. Pablo
10. TimeSplitter
13. Rip
14. Jarrod1983
15. The Doc
17. Kdestiny
12 remain
Thus ends Night 2
Last edited by Mazer; April 8th, 2020 at 6:01 PM.
Town gathered. They were more determined. Cory was dead. Topanga was dead.
They would turn this bloodbath into a spin-off. They had to get one eventually at least.
Day 3 begins now.
Normal lynch rules apply.
Oooookay.
It's clutch time.
Talk to me... Even though Im going to bed.
It goes without saying this in danger of being over before it's even properly begun. Let's go through the night.
kdestiny is now almost entirely clear.
Angela may know who Jordo is.
Corey interrogated me, but BBF was our cop. Back ups only get activated the night after the original dies. The death reveal shows BBF was just a normal cop too, so there'd be no need for a second to be active at the same time. Flagging this, has me a bit worried.
Same goes with Eli and Caito. There was no qualifier with BBF's cop. Heavy feel of shenanigans with the roles.
Scum role blocked Jordo, which makes him, like kdestiny, almost entirely clear.
Sod it.
Vote : Caito
For future reference if you are a Town player with a kill role, don’t just kill random players, or you’re helping scum, and an idiot.
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Mainly an idiot
Tread carefully here guys, take our time. A mislynch could win the game for scum during the night.
Mazer was very clear on Night One, making it obvious what was happening in regards to tracking, watching etc. Corey and Eli both read like cop investigations. The problem I have with that is that our actual cop, BBF, had no qualifiers (paranoid, naive, insane etc), so his reads were accurate. He was also not even or odd night specific. That means it'd be heavily unbalanced to have one more active cop, forget about two more. There's not even the possibility that one of them is a JOAT because we've already lost our JOAT.
Is that how other people are reading it, that they were cop investigations?
Someone check JP, that’s a very un-JP post, his gin must have been compromised
This is what I was afraid of.
BBF was a cop. Just a normal, both nights cop. Any back up wouldn't be activated until tonight. If you're a cop, almost without question, you have a hidden qualifier of some kind.
Not a Cop
Love it.
Vote: Caito
Woah, hang on.
Unvote
Rip, if you're a tracker, two people targeted Jordo, Angela and Lauren.
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Which still gives us a 50/50 shot, mind.
It ain't me.
Give me a second to fill my shit in.
Also, not only should we talk about lotjx after this game is over, but the stupidity caused whenever town has a vig kill. (yes, I am aware I was part of the problem)
Mazer.... Sabrina? Really?
If you were gonna bring in a random broad, why not Jennifer Love Hewitt from the one episode she was in
Alright, sheets filled in.
Look, I get it. I look bad. Really bad. and the whole immunity/CWE thing doesnt exactly help me. Which I said from the beginning as soon as the game event was triggered. But let's think about this. If I was scum, would I really want to put that big a spotlight on myself right off the bat? it would be virtual suicide, because I don't think many people would be fooled by it. It's not exactly master spywork.
All im saying is, im town. And considering after two days we are down SIX people, I think we may want to be a tad careful about just pointing fingers.
Sabrina's show makes two canonical appearances
hewitt will make season 2
Someone check JP please, he’s being very un-JP, which is generally scum JPs first tell.
Not a Tracker
It’s pretty clear everything considered
Vote : Caito
The WW2 episodes....
Forgot about that.
Carry on
Next pandemic, when I do this again, we'll have some fun moments for Jennifer Love Pfeffer.
Current voting
Caito (1)-Rip
For the record even under worst case scenarios a mislynch doesn't win scum the game it just gets to the point where beating them is unlikely. As far as I can tell we've got 4 scum vs 7 town and 1 neutral. Obviously scum will kill one,, a mislynch would kill one, we have to hope there are no more vigilante shots or that the moron stops killing people so that leaves us either 5v4v1 or 4v4v1. I don't think I've ever seen a neutral town that was GOOD for the scum.
At this point Minkus, especially if they have any solid clues on who the scum are is our actual biggest threat. If I recall properly a Serial Killer is essentially in a Last Man Standing match. Them wearing down scum to much loses them the game. Not immediately mind you but getting town down to five would be the easiest path to getting a three way up.
Trying to stay calm with you when you've got your fucking blinkers on is really difficult.
If you're not a cop - of any sort - and you're not a tracker (and we know you can't be a Joat) then I don't see how you have any info on Caito.
If I'm being dense, somebody explain it to me.
Unless you don't have dees and you're basing it on the shenanigans of Day Two, but that'd be reckless as hell.
Right, lets do some maths.
I said,
Here's the list of remaining players:
1. virmicious
2. Badger
4. JP
5. Caito
6. HFR
7. Jordo
8. Pablo
10. TimeSplitter
13. Rip
14. Jarrod1983
15. The Doc
17. Kdestiny
That's 12. We know there to be at least 4 scum.
1 town lynch + 3 town or neutral killed at night = Scum Win
Also,
Am I reading this right? Are you saying that scum, in a game where we haven't one of them yet and if we don't they could win tonight, aren't the main threat?
I’d say scum are our main threat.
Then I’d say vote Caito again
Then I’d tell JP to shush.
I'm starting to think we should drug test Doc before we allow him to play these games
You're not any kind of cop, you're not a tracker, you're not a JOAT. We're in potential MYLO, I need more.
Clearly you aren't reading it right because the scum CANNOT win tonight.
Even at 12 bodies left that would be 7 town, 4 scum, 1 neutral. A mislynch, a serial killer kill and a scum hit STILL leaves us at 4v4 on the scum and one serial killer who's best interest is to keep the game going. The only possible way they win, if I remember right, is to kill the last surviving player. So they go into 1 v 1 v1 match up. The vote ends in a tie but they have a kill so its a victory for them just a longer than normal write up. This puts us in a slightly different scenario where the serial killer is both against us and with us. They can't kill the last scum, well at least not until the final 3 and they can't let the scum get a super majority either. This isn't rocket science FFS.
Somebody else try, before I lose my fucking mind.
Example
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Top 4 are scum. #5 is neutral. We lynch #6. Scum kills #7. Neutral kills #8. Vig kills #9
That leaves
1 Scum
2 Scum
3 Scum
4 Scum
5 Neutral
10 Town
11 Town
12 Town
I guess technically that doesn't end the game right then. As the Neutral could kill a scum and a Town could have some bulletproof power or something to waste the Scums kill.
Either way although this isn't actually mislynch and lose. It's basically a mislynch and lose so yes Rip you really need to be sure.
Exactly it doesn't end the game at all. The only thing we need to do is hope the SK isn't a complete idiot and this is actually a LOT less screwed than JP is up here trying to make it out. I'm pretty sure JP's good here, what I can't figure out for the life of me is who the SK is but I guess this game got a bit out of hand pretty quickly.
Pablo, you were supposed to give me sanity. You were supposed to ease my suffering. But no, you just added to the madness.
Okay. Now, keeping in mind kills always happen before death, say we've mislynched and the Vig and SK both die during the night, along with another town. That would leave;
Town
Town
Town
Town
Scum
Scum
Scum
Scum
From everything we know, there'd be no kill action available for us, no double vote, no way of gaining a majority.
Game over.
Yes but you're letting yourself get too hung up on the game actually ending and the game as good as ending.
At this stage we are down 6 and haven't gotten anything in return.
If we lose another town with a mislynch we are basically game over is all that matters so Rip I also can't see how you can be so sure.
Fair point.
Man just so I don't feel like a doing nothing bitch.
Vote Caito.
It's mostly based on his reaction to one vote coming down on him, and then him using some wording similar to mine. When I was trying to figure out who fucked with the voting yesterday. Just felt like someone trying to find a way to defend himself and latching onto something that was (mostly) accepted earlier.
If that's confusing to anyone else I can go quote some shit and show what I'm talking about.
I stand corrected Pablo, if the perfect storm comes in we could lose tonight, but DAMN that is the kind of chain of events that only occur when God hates you. Worth remember the Vig is actually more likely than not to hit something good for us. I'm saying its worth the risk unless he's got more info than I'm seeing but 4 town, vs 4 scum and 1 neutral who needs eliminating.
There's the post that tickled something in me.
Along with rip being pretty adament.
And caito didn't campaign for immunity it fell in his lap. So this idea that he wouldn't of tried for it if he was scum is silly too.
Also fuck a no lynch. Not going out like a little bitch.
Jordo, you said yourself up there that if I triggered that vote, it would be bold because I already had eyes on me.
Exactly why I wouldnt. Scum doesnt win by putting themselves out there with a target saying "hey, check me" unless they are GF
Your big defense after one vote strikes me scummy. My vote is where it is and it'll stay there
With how well stuff has gone for scum with them hitting power roles I don't think them making bold moves would be that crazy
We hadn't lost the doctor let alone the cop before the play was made though.
I'm not saying I won't go for this, I just want to hear it all and have Rip give me what he can to convince me that it's not just a hunch.
But the play was a garaunteed mislynch and then another night phase with aggressive vig play
They were in a great spot.
No lynch after D1 isn't viable unless you lucked into a free day by not losing a townie and even that's only true early on. I concur, fuck a no lynch. An almost 100% chance of losing one townie and having nothing to show for it is suicidally stupid this late.
I just want to elaborate a bit more. Coming into day 2 we had lost two town. They garauntee we lose another town, and we get no readable vote history, then also that they are likely to get one more town and we have a vig and a SK running. It would of been smart to make a bold play with caito having immunity if he is scum. They're already doing well with things only looking to get better.
On top of it caito's defense practically writes itself.
Scum- if we do this caito looks pretty guilty.
Caito- I look too guilty to of done it.
I mean even if we caught on they've still got such a big lead it'd be worth the risk to pull the bold move.
I guess my point is... "it was too bold of a move for scum to even try it" isn't a good defense of it.
Current voting
Caito (2)-Rip, Jordo
I may be a bit off base in this but JP is probably worth a swat after caito
Fucking hell if we are going with the vote thing being a scum plot everything adds up. They would of known they had that card to play which if played combined with immunity is a surefire why to eliminate a player.
Who was big on saying we should give immunity.
JP.
On top of it he then suggests caito so caito doesn't have to politic for it.
I said it then. If caito flops scum we kill them both.
Funny you bring me up, you've been on my mind .
Town's in a very bad spot and Rip's offered a lynch on Caito without laying out reasons. You're piling on that by going in hard on a reaction from Caito that feels natural to me, making something out of very little.
Are you boasting here? We already know you're bold in how you play.
How bold you talking? Because this,
has fix up written all over it. Caito your patsy?
How bold we talking? Scum self-targeting?
Self-target role block. We've not seen Griff in either write up, so I'm guessing you're a Godfather without a night role.
Vote: Jordo
Oh man, found one. Fucking found one. Nailed one found one.
And I'm your patsy number 2. Nice try.
I mean you only have something to worry about if caito flips scum.
You know something we don't?
I
I'm not trying to lynch you, but if caito flops scum you're the first target after imo
Not a single word in defence, just an attempt to deflect.
What a coincidence I'm "on your mind" right after I point my finger at you a bit.
I can't make a defence right now, because you think I'm scum because I think caito and possibly you are.
My defense is I still think you might both be scum.
Sorry mate, I'm not going to play your game. You're not even attempting to respond to the accusations, you're just trying to deflect.
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That's not a defence. That's not responding to the points I made. That's offering a vague nothingness.
Scum.
Actually, how does this even make sense?
You can't respond to the specific accusations I made because I think you're scum? What?
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Caught out, rattled, flailing. Scum.
Problem is JP Angela would know if he was scum and in these dire circumstances I reckon they'd have called him on it.
I think Caito has been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too defensive. It was only a vote from perennial grump Rip.. and he went totally on the back-foot. Really didn't look right.
Flailing lol. Because you're entire thought process on me being scum is that I backed rip, who I think is lying about not being a tracker or cop. I think rip is either lying or he has a different sort of role we aren't used to.
Regardless caito was looked at last night by Eli. Now rip is adament we should lynch caito.
Also Lauren isn't a role block, I haven't been role blocked this game, even though we might be in a better spot if I had been.
Read the action again.
Lauren actually may be a roleblocker
But I was not role blocked last night
I should of waited to see what other scum would jump to try and lynch me but I got impatient. Sorry boys.
Scum would not self target with what happened to me.
Not on last night's action they wouldn't.
That's clear as day as to what Angela does. And this happened to Jordo,
That's a role block. Can't track somebody who's blocked.
Nope.
Not a role block.
If it wasn't a role block, what was it?
Powerless being the key word
Hypothetically if I had a power it's gone. I'm not sure what they call it in mafia, disabler maybe
Hesitation in explaining was I didn't want to get mod killed and I wasn't sure if I could give that info.
Lauren may in fact be a roleblocker but this kiss would of left me powerless if I hypothetically had had a power
Apart from trying to look as suspicious as possible, is there any particular reason why you're refusing to answer questions with a straight answer?
Angela should of seen who Lauren was but I think a disabler would probably be more of a single shot thing.
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