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    Great write-ups, @Tainted Eclipse. I'm glad you give some love to BJ. I had forgotten about his work in the Field of Honor. I liked his match w/ Samoa Joe more than probably everyone.

    Is there a reason you skipped War of the Wire? All I remember from it is the Cide/Corino rematch, but like you, I remember that BFSE match very fondly.

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    it just wasn't included in the torrent pack i downloaded, unfortunately. i do remember having watched the corino/homicide barbed wire match a couple years ago and thinking it was a big disappointment compared to their BFSE match, and looking at some of the reviews of the show it doesn't seem too hot otherwise, so at least it doesn't seem like we're missing much with that being the show left out.

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    Hopefully that one turns up as Thursday throwback 'cause I remember it being really loved at the time.

    Today I watched (on youtube):
    - Dominic Garini vs BJ Whitmer - AIW - Submit or Surrender match -- this was good, not great. This was Whitmer's farewell match and he maybe shouldn't have even worked it, he was so slow. I don't question the things he did in this match, he was just crippled looking and had nothing good to really add to the match. Garini on the other hand sells really well. He has a way of staying on his feet and looking hurt w/o just getting owned to look sympathetic. Garini wrestles barefoot and this match had thumbtacks. He also bleeds from a friggin railroad spike to the forehead. Garini came off as a better asskicker than Whitmer and this was a match where Whitmer competently kicks his ass for most of the match. The ending really made Whitmer seem like a bully who really didn't want to go down the road they took and that was a good way to go out. I didn't have the date on this...
    - Brian Kendrick vs BJ Whitmer - AIW -- this was a great showing from both men. Again, I didn't have the date on this, but they say Kendrick is on his way to Japan and that Whitmer has been on a one year comeback tour. Whitmer holds down and cuts off Kendrick with mostly strikes, forearms and such, and convinceably does so. Kendrick hits all of his stuff (his leg lariat, enziguri, and two superkicks - one with the left leg that hits BJ in the face with the point of his toes: very nice, very nice) and nearly wins, but BJ has his own Claymore Kick that wins in convinceable fashion. I was suprised to see Whitmer look this strong against Spanks.
    - Spanky vs Sean O'Hare - Velocity - two of my favorites and interestingly I never knew this happened and it happens to be from a period I never knew about where Kendrick wrestled in WWE as Spanky. O'Hare is huge and bullying but not really experienced enough to hold Spanky down the way he wants to; Josh Matthews compares him to both Piper and Vince, which is pretty high and damning praise. Spanky smacks him in the face with his leg lariat and it hits like a one legged dropkick. Another Velocity great from these two.

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    - I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. Hugh Morrus was an underrated big man. Damn good Moonsault. And that's "no laughing matter".

    - Remember when the WWF gave Morrus a different finish for about 12 seconds on TV? A Reverse-DDT they called "The Punchline". He kept it after he started wrestling under his real name. So the name made no sense.

    - I have no idea who Top Gun is. But he's on a highway to somewhere. I'll let you fill in the blank.

    - Morrus ends Top Gun's flight early, with the No Laughing Matter.

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    - Total nothing match here -- Its babyface Jericho, just waiting for that heel turn to come, against Mark Starr.

    - Except for one moment. Jericho works Starr into what's basically the setup for Christian's Unprettier finish, or whatever Chelsea Green calls her version of that move now -- but instead of driving Starr face down into the mat, he pulls Starr's neck over his shoulder and drops him in kind of a half-ass stunner/RKO thing. Weird.

    - Jericho wins with a missile dropkick off the top. Not bad. This Jericho kid might have a future. Whatever happened to him?

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    I miss Missile Dropkick finishes. Jericho, Riggs, and Booker. Even Paul Wight used a spinny one on big Ron Fuller...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    - Remember when the WWF gave Morrus a different finish for about 12 seconds on TV? A Reverse-DDT they called "The Punchline". He kept it after he started wrestling under his real name. So the name made no sense.
    I remember him using a sit-out powerbomb when he switched to his real name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I remember him using a sit-out powerbomb when he switched to his real name.
    And eventually he stopped using the Moonsault and started beating guys, on the rare occasion he won, with a flying elbow drop, instead.

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    Watched Gallagher vs Nese this morning. Nese continues to be less douchey, more brutal, like his CWC match with Kendrick. Gallagher continues to change up his game. I'll probably jinx him by saying this, but I still can't guess when he's gonna throw in a headbutt -- he still surprises me. Gallagher spent most of the match on defense and he had no trouble getting into place for Nese's flurry of offense that the whole match seemed to be- he made it seem like he was just trying to get his breath everytime he moved into place. Gallagher's roaring elbow wins again so someone is actually booking this guy to win -- hopefully he keeps a steady edge on Nese if this turns into a series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    I miss Missile Dropkick finishes. Jericho, Riggs, and Booker. Even Paul Wight used a spinny one on big Ron Fuller...
    For a guy with the size and muscle mass of Booker T, hitting somebody with a flying top-rope dropkick was the perfect finish. It'd be like getting hit with well-aimed small car. Everybody seems to forget how deceptively big Booker T is (and bigger in WCW in his younger days). He had a grace of movement and such incredible timing it tricked you into thinking he was smaller and more compact than he was.

    Also, being partnered with Stevie Ray, who had all the size (and wrestling ability) of a small house didn't help the comparison.

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    Booker definitely had his moments. I need to see BookDust vs Jericho & Christian again. That match got so much love

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    Booker definitely had his moments. I need to see BookDust vs Jericho & Christian again. That match got so much love
    Booker T's entire tag-team career was "moments".

    Stevie Ray would get in and slowly bludgeon guys to death, there'd be a heat sequence on Stevie Ray that could usually double as a replacement for a sleep-aid, and then Booker T would get the hot-tag and like two minutes to shine before the finish.

    If anybody had any good memories of Harlem Heat, it was all and only because of Booker T.

    Sucka!!!!!

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    Haven't watched any wrestling in a while. About to watch Rising the Next Generation in Osaka Dome. The NJPW Osaka Dome show from August 1998

    Watching the commercial DVD so the matches are out of order. First up on this watch is Tadao Yasuda & Takashi Iizuka vs. Kazuo Yamazaki & Osamu Nishimura

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    Tadao Yasuda has roid gut.

    Tadao Yasuda looks like if a noir villain got on the gas.

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    Yasuda is also the most fun guy in this match. As one might expect this is a very mat based match, but it's very dry. Near the end Yasuda come in for a series of genuinely fun high spots until a very cool finish. Yamazaki has him in the cross armbreaker. Looks like Yasuda is going to do the deadlift powerbomb spot, but instead can't get him up and submits. Never seen it done that way.


    Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Shiro Koshinaka is up next

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    Fun match. I wonder if Koshinaka's win over another nWo member was supposed to set up a title match with Chono?

    Anyway on to the finals to determine the first ever Jr Tag Champs. Kanemoto and Wagner vs Otani and Takaiwa

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    Very disappointed with that one. Though I was never the biggest fan of the black trunks/black boots era of NJPW juniors. Kanemoto and Wagner had no chemistry whatsoever.

    I will say that when Otani's hair went it went quick. Got a full head of hair here.

    Muta vs Kabuki is up next. In 1998. Not expecting a barnburner here.

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    Oh god it's worse than I thought. It's Muta and Kabuki vs The Mad Dogs in what they are trying to tell me is a super dream tag match.

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    My knees hurt watching Muta try to do the ramp run in 1998

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    Yeah that sucked

    Shinya Hashimoto vs Genichiro Tenryu is up next

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    Well that was more like it. They hit each other really hard to start. Hit each other really hard in the middle. And hit each other really hard at the end.

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    Back to finish the show

    Starting this portion with Kendo Kashin vs El Samurai.

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    This match was fucking terrible. Kashin always sucked but Samurai was no better here. Sloppy as hell in parts and the other parts were restholds.


    Yuji Nagata & Kazuyuki Fujita vs Manabu Nakanishi and Satoshi Kojima is next

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    So this was Nagata's return to NJPW from WCW. I don't remember him being there that late into 1998.

    Solid match. Seemed to be setting up a generational rivalry with Nakanishi, but we know how that ended up.

    Next up Jushin Liger vs Great Sasuke
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    fell asleep watching that match so that should tell you something.

    Kensuke vs Don Frye is next

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    Fans hate Frye and quiet down when he is on offense and are super loud when Kensuke gets offense in

    Frye did get over, but it cannot be overstated how much the NJPW fans hated the MMA shit

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    Fun while it lasted. Frye was an awesome dick. Post match pull apart between the MMA guys and the wrestlers was great.

    Finally the main event. Tatsumi Fujinami vs Masahiro Chono

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    Wasn't bad wasn't great. Chono wins his one and only IWGP World Title.

    Show was pretty mediocre despite a good card on paper. Hashimoto vs Tenryu easily match of the show.

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    Was 98 a bad year for Liger and Sasuke? I thought those two would shake, rattle, and roll...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    Was 98 a bad year for Liger and Sasuke? I thought those two would shake, rattle, and roll...
    Well I think this one falls in the old rule where the Jr heavyweight matches would always die in Domes for whatever.

    Thankfully that's not true anymore. I'd say Devitt and Ibushi started to turn the tide and Hiromu finished the job on that one.

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    Been forever since I went plague watching, but I'm finally getting around to ECW's Big Ass Extreme Bash, which I've always wanted to see. It's available on ECW TV on the network.

    Jericho vs Cactus is an epic encounter. Cactus is on his way to WWF here and he's already sporting his brand new Mankind boots. Jericho is new to ECW and wrestles like no one you've ever seen before. He's like a highflying Bret Hart or something. Total Ricky Morton with a dropkick but he's built like a British Bulldog. I can't remember these two ever working together again. Did they team at some point? Their chemistry is off the charts.

    Taz vs Whipwreck is like a better version of the Kross/Ciampa match that just happened. I said that match would be a great battle of the egos and it was. Ciampa wouldn't work underdog, he just took a beating, mounted a comeback and then took a final beating. In this match, Whipwreck gets his handed to him but he shows a technical expertise and savvy that makes you think he's got more than one chance of getting the upset. And Taz totally annihilates him with some purty suplays.

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    I can't remember if I saw this 2/3 falls match between Juventud and Rey, jr. or if I just imagined seeing it. It was basically what I imagined and the previous ECW match these two had, the first 2/3 falls match, is shown in clips and appears to be something different than I imagined.
    Juventud is really on form here. He busts out a springboard somersault dropkick off the top rope that almost misses but totally surprises. He also hits a really good short-arm clothesline and a gorrilla press fallaway slam that happens so fast, it again surprises, but I think Rey was the real master in this. He was either selling or slapping on a new frankensteiner variation, no time catching his breath or pacing. I always heard this was a 5 star match and I guess it is, although I thought the clips of their previous match seemed more interesting (Rey wins a fall with an electric-chair suplex and loses the match after a super-brainbuster - what was that for??).

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    I just watched a 6 minute Finlay vs Meng match from a 1998 episode of Saturday Night. Fucking ruled.

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    Just watched a super boring hardcore match for the WCW Title between DDP and Bam Bam. I'd be surprised at how boring it was, but it did happen on Thunder.

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    speaking of random wcw tv matches this match is awesome. jericho and eddie vs. meng and barbarian on nitro.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIWvSv1q7Ng

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    I just watched that this past week. Totally killer gem of a tag.
    Is there a better Faces of Fear match?

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    Another random Thunder match

    Watched a Rey Jr vs Kaz Hayashi match that ended when roided up Randy and his harem ran in. The match before that was sadly nothing special. If I didn't' know any better I would have thought Hayashi was green as grass watching it. He seemed lost.

    Just finished up a tv match between the Rock n Roll Express and Flair and Luger. Image the Rock n Rolls against Flair and Luger on tv in 1987. The match you are imagining is the match they had.
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