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    Quote Originally Posted by NeseToTheFace View Post
    At first I thought it would be a heel-turn for the Profits too. So far it's just been a new wardrobe and new partnership. I'd say let it cook for a little while, it may turn into something more. When Lashley got the reaction being out with them that he did I figured they would have to do something creative to get booed.
    You’re right, we need to see more really.

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    I wouldn't say I'm right, just as I wouldn't say you're wrong. Too early to tell. Maybe we get the Bloodline treatment, give or take 30 months, to see where this thing takes us. It's fun to speculate what's going to come of something way before we actually find out.

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    What I will stand by is it’s be even better if someone like MVP were the mouthpiece. Not that the Profits are bad talkers per se but Bobby being the “leader”, it’s not his strong suit (pun intended).

    Is MVP still technically managing Omos and where is he but this group I think would be better with MVP speaking.

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    Looks like we’re getting an intertwined stable war. Not sure if AJ going mad at the OC (rightfully so) is going to lead to them breaking up or give them the kick up the arse they need. Either way Hurt Profits/AJ/OC (maybe)/JD and Bloodline. I’m also wondering if they do a Survivor Series elimination match out of this but I think the eventual end game could be AJ/Roman.

    Asuka/IYO in two weeks? Oh yessss please! Bayley made to look like a chump again but laughed at her stomping on Shotzi’s tank. Face Charlotte is meh though. Suspect might be back for revenge during or after the title match.

    Running back Miz/Knight, smelling Cena making the save after Waller/Theory getting involved.
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    Quite clear they're leaning into the Knight momentum as he's rarely getting one-segment appearances now. I think his verbal stuff has dipped a bit but it's still clicking with the audience so that's all that ultimately matters. A Town Down Under works for me, and keep on keeping on for those two. Keep them together for a while. Waller is really coming into form as a character now too, after that early slow start when he was called up. There's breadcrumbs there for Knight and Cena to ultimately team up for a one-off against that team so we'll see if it actually works out that way.

    There's a Rhodes-sized hole at the top of the card right now so while it may be too on the nose, he feels like the best choice to be traded to Smackdown. Styles is no slouch but it feels like he hasn't been booked appropriately to work a match with Jimmy Uso as the top story for multiple weeks on the show. Knight is over but he's not going to be carrying a top program right now, Styles is talented but isn't ready for that, so Rhodes makes too much sense in that spot.

    The stuff with the rest of the OC, then the loose affiliation reuniting between JD and the Bloodline, then the tease of Lashley/Profits up against JD has a lot of connective tissue there but it's kind of convoluted in the early stages. Ultimately it makes sense to have the stuff going on with the OC as Styles is trying to light a fire into them and I think that'll play out but it's probably not going to have a lot of sizzle to it in terms of a payoff.

    IYO/Asuka should be fun and you'd like to see that on a bigger stage but I think they're likely making the right call to go with getting it go on Smackdown. Could bubble up to a PLE feud but I don't see that right now.

    I don't think he's got Gable's ceiling in terms of carrying segments, but Butch needs to be a project they tap into in relating to a midcard asset.

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    Thank you, Coach Prime and to SAG, sadly, for this episode.

    With Rock in the same state as Smackdown earlier in the day and not nearly as much on his docket now with the strike, it would've been tough to not roll out the red carpet to have him on TV. He hasn't been on WWE programming in a while and it took next to no time for that audience to be in the palm of his hand. We talk about LA Knight's pops but we saw the true top tier of pops here. No disrespect to Knight as the pop he got tonight was fantastic, but there's levels to it. This certainly felt like a spur-of-the-moment segment because the breadcrumbs were there for Waller to be the chum left for Rock but alas it was his running mate, Theory. I thought Theory held his own quite well and didn't cower or fade in the moment. We talk about the treatment/interactions Waller has gotten while on the main roster but it's easy to forget that Theory has been the protégé of Vince McMahon, gotten stunned by Austin, had a Mania match with Cena (and won), and now just got a premiere segment with Rock. Sheesh.

    Knight/Miz got a PLE-quality video package for the match. That was really good stuff. The match was somewhat similar to the PLE match but the commercial break might have actually helped the match. There short term picture has a bit of a void now for Knight now that it appears the stuff with Miz is now over and done. There was a minor of breadcrumb to suggest Knight and Cena could've linked up to take on Theory and Waller but Cena's got other sights set. The other breadcrumbs left suggest Knight could be getting a crack at Reigns maybe at the end of the Fall, potentially at Survivor Series. That would be a big step up for him, but they'll have to find something to tide him over for a couple of weeks. With his momentum, it doesn't have to be anything groundbreaking so a simple side quest can work.

    Pretty Deadly coming back into the mix has been refreshing. The championship picture doesn't necessarily line up for them, but they're going to get TV time either way and hopefully be in a prime position when the gold is back in their sightline.

    McMahon is still lingering obviously but he certainly wasn't in the building. When you hear a Triple Tails reference by Cole in building up history between IYO and Asuka, you know Cole doesn't have McMahon in his ear lol. Asuka and Bayley had a good match, and those two have very, very, very good history and chemistry together. I do appreciate how they weaved in the story with Shotzi into the match and they're doing a nice job keeping her prevalent as things progress.

    With everything ahead of the show, the fact that the crowd was still gassed up for Cena at the end was quite a testament to how good they were as an audience. Kudos to them. It was funny that it was a passing comment but Cena saying he wanted to hear what "the kid" had to say when you consider Cena is 46 and Waller is 33 lol. Waller still has years ahead of him and is very "young" in terms of time earned on the main roster, but Waller really used his time in NXT well and it clearly helped prepare him when it came to verbally jousting and being able to speaking smoothly and aggressively. He never really wavers and owns what he's supposed to be doing when it comes to these segments. They're not always well-executed but he handles himself well way more than looking lost at sea. The fact they give him this much rope verbally speaks quite favorably to how they view him.

    The Usos have split and much like it was when they were first splintering away from Reigns, Jey is notably ahead of Jimmy in terms of clicking as a character. Granted, Jimmy has a much difficult road to navigate because there's so much distortion to what the actual story is within the Bloodline but he doesn't own things quite like his brother. Mentioned a very notable hole at "top of the lineup" in terms of a face right now and it seems like Cena is going to fill that role for the time being. Seemed like he had one tag program lined up but it's transitioned into working with Styles against Sikoa and Uso. That feels like a one-and-done scenario for Cena and Styles can presumably move on to Reigns presumably at Crown Jewel.

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    I, like so many others, marked the fuck out for that theme music. As you said BG, that crowd was instantly smelling what Dwayne was cooking.

    After the initial excitement wore off and the show progressed, I was disappointed that they used the extremely rare Rock appearance in that manner; upon further reflection, it suggests layers of subtlety like so much of The Bloodline storyline before it. Dwayne sprinkled enough usage of The Rock’s/The People’s show that Roman is absolutely bound to notice (and take offense to). He never once mentioned his cousin or crossed paths with Heyman/Sikoa/Uso, as though suggesting that he was way above them. He had a brief physical interaction, ran the ropes and bumped for the first time in forever.

    If Adam Copeland can work his way back to active status after a decade on the sidelines, Dwayne Johnson, if so inclined, can get ready for a one-off match over six months out. The unions, from this outsider’s perspective, appear to be still holding strong and have seemingly survived the first major pinch point (the opening weeks of the network TV Fall schedule). Barring one side suddenly collapsing, it looks as though this labour dispute will keep going and The Rock’s dance card in the Spring looks wide open.

    Great call on Austin Theory as the company’s new Golden Boy, these legends (Austin, Cena, now Rock) don’t work with you unless they approve. I’d suggest that Theory is the new clubhouse leader as the one to dethrone Roman Reigns…

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    Smackdown thoughts -


    The opening tease with Cena/AJ challenging the remnants of the Bloodline, to set up a contract signing, took too long.

    Nice job by AustinTheory taking credit for the record setting 150 million + views of his segment with McAfee/The Rock last week. Theory/Waller vs. Brutes was solid. I've been impressed with Butch's ring work for a while, especially his selling/transition between spots, but this may have been the best showing by Ridge the Fridge in his WWE main roster career. Nice to see all 4 guys look terrific in a tag match.

    Asuka v. Sky was as good as anticipated. Looking forward to seeing more from both.

    #EltonStrong was huge hit for me. Pretty Deadly will have to be careful that they don't turn face with stuff this entertaining.

    Rey / LWO getting the win over Street Profits the way they did, with Dawkins hesitating to benefit from Lashley's outside interference, allowing Rey to get a surprise win, was executed perfectly. Fans have been confused about whether Street Profits were heels just because of their making heelish scowling faces, but we still want to cheer the hell out of these guys. Lashley's directive post-match, if they can't pull the trigger he will find someone that can, is the type of intrigue that was needed. Beating the hell out of the face Rey is a clear way to turn heel, and I am glad they didn't just pull the trigger right away. While we all fully expect a definitive heel turn, there's also the real possibility that it doesn't play out that simply, and this is what leads to the team split. Both Dawkins and Ford are talented as hell and they were rumored to be splitting a long time ago. Finally we're curious about the next steps.

    Once AJ was taken out via ambulance, Karl Anderson should be cut for not demaning he be allowed to take AJ's place. This makes the OG look incredibly weak as a faction, and worse, Anderson complained to Cena that he tried to warn AJ about getting involved with the bloodline. In the Attitude Era, he'd have gotten fired for being a wuss.

    So then we get the Cena beatdown at the hands of the Bloodline. I was kind of surprised that LA Knight did not step up - the crowd would have loved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post

    So then we get the Cena beatdown at the hands of the Bloodline. I was kind of surprised that LA Knight did not step up - the crowd would have loved it.
    Reportedly, that was the plan. He unfortunately tested positive for Covid earlier in the day so had to leave the arena and they just had to move on storyline wise without him.

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    YES. Spooky Witch Girls coming back AND a brilliant way to address the curse of the tag titles. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post

    YES. Spooky Witch Girls coming back AND a brilliant way to address the curse of the tag titles. Love it.
    They must have been lurking on the boards as guests when we talked about it in Signing/Release thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Reportedly, that was the plan. He unfortunately tested positive for Covid earlier in the day so had to leave the arena and they just had to move on storyline wise without him.
    You know, you have to hand it to WWE. They literally recycled last week's beatdown to last night....... but with LA Knight.

    Their depth in ideas is strong!

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    That was a massive pop for Knight at the opening. Time for the company to make a move on his popularity (dethrone Gunther, strong Rumble showing, prime time Mania match). I hesitate to give LA the Rumble victory, with Gunther the current clubhouse leader as he moves up the ladder to dethrone Roman in Philly. A lengthy IC run will be a real good barometer.

    That ending is probably your Survivor Series matchup: I hope Cena sticks around to see this current storyline play out, I wonder who the fifth guy will be.

    Looking forward to Roman’s appearance next week, there are some topics that definitely need to be addressed by The Tribal Chief. This feels logical for him to call in Nia to confront Rhea in order to put Judgement Day back in their place; I would prefer Naomi to Nia in that spot, but I digress.

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    Was in the building for last night's show and had a couple of ancillary observations:

    - Michael Cole got a big chuckle when a PA pointed out a sign in the crowd that asked him what night it was when the Brawling Brutes came out.
    - The heat for Dominik is not piped in. It's wild how much heat he can generate.
    - Right when they went to break, Rhodes went back to the kid who he gave the weight belt to and signed it, then he'd find a couple of kids in the first row and would sign autographs for him. True man of the people.
    - Waller and Theory are very good at keeping a crowd entertained/engaged during commercial breaks. Theory kept doing the Uso arm wave to mock the crowd and then Waller kept finding people in the first couple of rows to mock who were heckling him.
    - Looked like there was a decent bit of disorganization to end the show because I guess they wanted Reigns to have hold the title over Knight and he didn't have it so Heyman was hauling ass from the back and brought it out, off to the side of the camera. The crew kept whistling at Reigns to get his attention to get the title.
    - Dark match prior was Shotzi and Mia versus the Spooky Girls, and the one after was Rey Mysterio, Dragon Lee, and Zayn versus Imperium. Kaiser has such an incredible presence in person, GUNTHER's chops can echo, Lee got over with the crowd pretty quickly and Zayn had a really fun speech after. Shouldn't come as a surprise but GUNTHER and Mysterio worked extremely well off each other.

    Actual show thoughts:
    I'm really surprised how much of a secondary piece Cena was. He really wanted to give Knight the moment when he first got in the ring, and then at the end after taking the spike from Sikoa. As long as the crowd is behind Knight, I don't think they're really going to try to expand his playbook when it comes to working matches. The easy blueprint is having him sell for most of the match and then the crowd is there for all his simple comeback attacks. It is notable that he pinned Sikoa as only Jey and Cody are the only ones to do that. I highly, highly doubt he's going to get a win at Crown Jewel over Reigns but maybe he gets some retribution in whatever they're going to do at Survivor Series.

    I like how Triple H's segment addressed multiple issues in one fell swoop. Pearce has been involved a lot but it's been a plot hole in terms of why he's doing both shows and now they addressed that. The fact they drew attention to Aldis working to do what's best for his brand and noting that there will be friendly competition should hopefully create some fun narratives when they want to shake things up. KO on Smackdown effectively adds more reasoning to rush through the story on Monday and for now, ends the partnership with Zayn. Will be interesting to see how both of them do on their own, but it was probably time to split them apart and this does so without a forced turn.

    A plot hole in the Bloodline story seems to be how Reigns is seemingly okay with Jimmy being so infused in the group. He was a nuisance and then betrayed Reigns and now things seem to be okay on Reigns' side having Uso along for the ride. I wasn't that enthused with Jimmy initially during the splitting of the Usos but he's certainly gotten much better since then. He's providing a bit of comedic levity to things, somewhat similar to Zayn but it a stooge/misinformed way. Acting like his brother by saying yeet and Reigns despising that is a humorous touch. The showdowns between Jey and his brothers, Rhodes and Reigns were really good. Pairing those with Jade and Charlotte certainly planted seeds for presumable Mania programs or big stories in 2024.

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    I also wonder what it’s like to walk like Don for a day and he gets booed everywhere he goes and how he plays up to it. The day he becomes a World Champion it’ll be even more mental heat.

    Having KO and Zayn split (for now) without going through a splitting angle is fine with me. Also yeah Knight getting a pin on solo is a big feather in his cap. He’s not beating Reigns now but at least he’ll probably look great in losing and shouldn’t lose momentum.

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    I like the split of Owens & Zayn without going through breaking them up with one turning against the other again. For now it feels like Owens should be held out as a future opponent of Reigns again, so I'm curious where he goes. Meanwhile, Zayn could be an opponent for Gunther and that would be awesome. Enough to take the title off him and move up Gunther to take on Rollins or another face? Now there's a possibility.

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    Roman’s initial crowd pop was pretty impressive, showed that the Bloodline/Tribal Chief storyline still has legs; there were a whole lot of “Ones” in the air on camera. Even during the faceoff with Cena, I thought the crowd was leaning pro-Roman; LA shifted it, dude is over as fuck. The spear to close the show served a purpose, to try to reframe Reigns as a heel. LA chasing (and failing) will continue in his favor.

    Pretty cool to see Hunter getting a pop, especially after that near-death experience from two years ago. The rehash of the two brands and two GMs idea is cute, they’re still trying to pretend the brand split is a thing; congrats on the promotion Adam Pearce.

    Didn’t KO just leave SmackDown? :edit: KO was drafted to the RAW brand during the 2023 draft (end of April).

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    - Looking forward to seeing how they book Knight post CJ, because I doubt anyone anticipates he's dethroning Reigns. Imagine we're getting Sikoa/Cena very soon.
    - Still all about A Town Down Under. They work extremely well together. Dragon Lee is acclimating well to the main roster. I think the soft landing spot would've been within the LWO but I think I like what would presumably be their thought process of keeping him out of that because I think he would've been lost in the shuffle there because there's multiple stories going there, and Carlito can fill that spot well right now.
    - Mysterio/Paul should be a very fun match. There's certainly upside with either route they can go between a title change or retention.
    - Charlotte had her best match since Mania and the match with IYO was a lot of fun. Bianca back on the scene as is (for now) boosts the division but it doesn't really add a fun spark.

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    The way they (Paul) booked LA Knight during the opening segment was brilliant.

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    Based on how the match went Friday between Knight and Uso, I'm actually more optimistic that the match between Knight and Reigns will be better than I anticipated.

    The story Cena is telling is corny to me, but they're doing really well in terms of the execution of it.

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    KO was refreshing on commentary. He's always good when he's involved in a one-off situation during a single match, but he had insight and solid zingers over the course of the show. The only bummer was that he had terrible luck in terms of being under the weather and that impacting his voice. Whenever he's done wrestling, I really hope he slides into that role because he would be brilliant at it.

    They really rushed through the LWO story, which I guess means it is coming to a head at Survivor Series or the go-home for Survivor Series. I do like how Escobar handled the turn. He kind of harkened back to Bob Backlund with the way he was looking at his hands after everything and trying to figure out this quasi out of body experience for him to turn on the man he adored and respected. There is a lingering thing that's interesting that he kind of shoved Carlito out of the way before this breakdown happened, so there's a little bit of a crumb there to present an opportunity that they're working together here in some ways.

    Was quite sports entertained with the Knight/Waller stuff. You're going to get what you're going to get with a Knight match but it rarely matters now because the crowd is in on him. The fact they still are after Crown Jewel and his pre-Waller interaction promo was centered on angst towards Reigns and the Bloodline suggests they don't want to put his push to a halt and they still want him (and need him) in the main event picture on Smackdown.

    The hostile takeover of Damge CTRL and Bayley being uncomfortable is a solid story. She could hit the bricks at some point and Dakota could be the mouthpiece for a Black Lotus (WWE Style) and that could be fun. There's a massive glaring hole on the face side for this presumable WarGames match and there's a massive need for the final member to be a big coup because Shotzi as the third is fairly flat. There's three options that make sense to me (with a bit of help for one). The first option, which needs logic help, is Becky. The help is needed because she's technically on Raw but she has ties to Bianca. The second option is a call up with Roxanne being the one. That would be a big moment for her and establishing her has a player right away. The last option is Jade. The easy way to navigate this is having her be the last one out of the cage, thus minimizing the amount on her plate over the course of the match.
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    Watched the clip of the Escobar turn. Really well done. Seems like he might be going alone with the rest of the group rallying behind Rey so it'll be interesting to see if that remains the case.

    The heel women uniting at the end has me hyped. IYO/Kairi/Asuka becoming their own thing post-SS would/should/could be rad.

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    All we need is Dom to pop up and say “I told ya so!” to Santos lol. Maybe even try to recruit him despite the Backlash beatdown.

    Also the best bit about the Damage Ctrl segment was them trying to coax Bayley into a hug. “Oh I don’t do that anymore!”

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    Out of the options I predicted, they went with the first one. I imagine next week's episode will go a long way in terms of establishing why Becky is around and the interactions between Charlotte and Becky should be solid. I still like the idea of a fraction happening inside of Damage CTRL and Bayley not being able to do anything to stop it. Seeing IYO, Asuka, and Kairi working together just looks badass. Dakota could work as the mouthpiece for them, as well. Really weird patch of the final segment where Charlotte and IYO just didn't know how to work after the stare down lol.

    Appears there's some advancement on the horizon between the Brutes. As long as it moves Butch in a positive direction, I'm all for it. Holland has come quite a ways since he first debuted on NXT, but I'm not really sure where he goes if he were to go out on his own.

    They already have a lot of trust in Dragon Lee to where he's just serving as a conduit to allow for bangers to happen with cold or unknown talent. Really surprised to see Axiom on the show but he did really well in the moment. That was a tough crowd to work but those two guys got the crowd by the end of it. I don't really know how Axiom would fit on the main roster, so I'm presuming this was just a one off. That said, he did well with the opportunity. How crappy is Aldis in this instance? Lee was asking to avenge the attack of Mysterio last week and instead, Aldis gave him a match to honor Mysterio with Axiom lol. Seems like Lee is going to be the avatar of vengeance for the attack.

    Speaking of the attack, Escobar had his moment to speak and I thought he did fantastic in the role. He fits WAY much more cleanly as a character in this role. I thought he had a tricky crowd to navigate as they were What-ing him along the way but he held his tone and didn't deviate. He delivered a hell of a promo and I anticipate a strong push for him. Maybe it can bubble up into a blowoff at Mania between Escobar and Mysterio. If it does, that means Escobar is doing big things in terms of momentum in the interim, hopefully.

    Heyman saw Escobar's promo and didn't want to be outdone because he did his work in throwing dirt on Cena's career but equally propping Sikoa up at the same time. Knight probably had his worst promo in quite some time because his Dr. Seuss approach to running down Jimmy was a swing and miss lol. Then Rhodes' interaction earlier in the show with Aldis and appearance here does provide some interesting questions. Are they presumably going to make Knight a red herring option as the presumed 5th member for WarGames? Is Rhodes just forcing his way back into Bloodline business for the hell of it? I'm assuming it's both.

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    Especially with how Road Dogg was last week, very glad to see Graves back at the commentary table.

    They certainly tried to build a story within an episode between the fracture and attempted mending of fences between Charlotte and Becky. Some of it was fine, some of it just felt blah. I probably would've had more than an episode to work on it but it is what it is. Kind of a shame that an incredible stacked tag match had to be shoehorned into a slim spot in terms of time to finish the show. All that said, the match should be quite good.

    KO continues to be quite entertaining, even when he's self deprecating. Mixed bag in terms of a pairing between Owens and Knight but the common adversaries made it work. Is quite a step back to go from main eventing the last PLE against the top champ to not even being on the next PLE, being a big four show, but that's how the cards land sometimes. If the crowd was any indication, Knight's momentum will survive a little lull.

    Escobar continued doing well with his delusional vendetta to show that Carlito was the one who ruined the LWO. Really interesting to see continued rushing through chapters to see us ultimately get to Escobar and Dragon Lee at the PLE. The positive is the match should be quite good. On top of that, it's further investment in pushing Lee, seeing him get a PLE match relative quickly. The mess comes in the fact that neither guy should really take a loss here, at this stage in their respective stories. We'll see what comes of the fallout.

    The split of the Brawling Brutes continues. Triple H running things does make me curious to see who ultimately shines as they break apart. You'd usually think Holland would be the guy who gets the bigger push but he really doesn't seem to be ready to be out on his own. Butch clearly has a past that is quite appetizing to Triple H, but he also feels like a guy who isn't really in a spot to thrive on his own right now. A twist I wouldn't hate is that Sheamus returns, endorses the bet on Holland as a guy further down the road and sides with him in the divorce. That leaves Butch (hopefully getting his repacking towards his old persona) further in peril and maybe a call up brings a friend to even the odds.

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    The social media manifestations of hope seem to be making more of the eventual split of Bayley and Damage CTRL. It certainly seems like we're getting a fracture where Bayley is tossed away, potentially spinning into a turn, but a lot of people are hoping that this means the return of her tag-team partner. It remains to be seen if that actually happens (I'm not optimistic), but it would be a hell of a new chapter on things. Regardless, I like what's happening with the rest of Damage CTRL. It's pretty remarkable that the faction was booked awfully strong then quickly not, hit the point of being stale and now they've found new wrinkles to keep it going and intriguing.

    Triple H is working well across the board but it appears he's hit a situation where something clearly isn't working based on the presentation: Lashley and the Street Profits. If one crowd is a testing ground, Brooklyn was really behind Lashley and the booking really hasn't done enough to really lean into them as a heel group if that's the desired result. Add this week and then last week with the Profits working more as the faces in the championship match against Judgment Day, it's dissonant. As for Butch, still curious to see if my idea pans out since Pretty Deadly (a tag team) pour salt into his wound after he lost.

    I like the acts they've got for the US Championship tournament. Three things stood out in this relatively long segment:
    1. We're definitely getting Owens/Paul out of it and that's a good thing. The fact there's no December PLE allows this time to let Rumble stories breathe and develop. That would be very good with these two parties. You've even got an out that's been established (if they want to lean on it) with Owens being compromised when we get to the Rumble.
    2. Theory is doing more harm than good when it comes to Waller. We've hit a point where Theory is beyond stale and he's probably dragging Waller down. They've got to figure something out quick with Theory.
    3. Very intrigued with the concept of an NXT participant in the tournament. We saw Axiom recently and the company clearly wants to create synergies between all three brands. Will be interesting to see who it ultimately is.

    The brand supremacy factor was being a teased a bit in the build to Survivor Series after Aldis was appointed the GM of Smackdown and Pearce was for Raw. That's generally a tired and bland bit and it quickly amounted to nothing for the actual PLE, but this was a nice one-episode story when it came to Orton. I do think it's interesting that we might get a similar story but could eventually be revealed to be different on one key trait. One week in, Punk and Orton made returns and they appear to be invigorated to be back. I think it could be fun to do the reveal that Punk is being a fraud and Orton's enthusiasm is sincere. Regardless, it made a ton of sense for Orton to go to Smackdown and go after the guys who took him out. In the short term, LA Knight might be a significant loser of those two returns but I'd like to think he'll be heated back up for Mania. I imagine he helps even the odds for Orton in the meantime and then has to be creatively benefited for a couple of months before he takes on Paul for the US Championship at Mania.

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    -I like how Dakota is being given the reins as the mouthpiece of Damage Control 2.0 while she recuperates.
    -If they turn Bayley face, the top end of the roster becomes extremely one-sided (Becky on RAW, Bianca/Charlotte/Bayley on SmackDown). Add in Rhea, who gets face pops when not with Judgement Day, with the imminent Liv Morgan return; that leaves Iyo/Asuka/Kairi/Nia as your top heels.
    -I’d rather see Lashley and The Street Profits run as faces, until Lashley turns on one of them. Montez Ford is long overdue for a singles title, him and Logan Paul would put on a MOTY candidate.
    -Sheamus returning to lead a Brawling Brutes family meeting is necessary, sooner than later.
    -Bron Breakker has to be the NXT superstar in the tournament, right?
    -I like Orton on SmackDown to counteract Punk on RAW in the part-time face/legends category; Solo going over Randy at Mania would absolutely solidify him as a singles main eventer.
    -Randy RKOing Aldis plays extremely well into his persona, he’s technically a face for now but can/will turn at any moment.
    -Neither Punk nor Orton need the belt; the only reason Randy should have it is if he is back long-term (ie: the next 5 years) and here for Cena/Flair’s record. I don’t see either lasting past Mania 41; Punk inevitably burns this bridge, Orton ends his HOF career on his own terms.
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