He was walking about Gronk but it seems you're talking about the Boneyard Match?Originally Posted by Jordo
He was walking about Gronk but it seems you're talking about the Boneyard Match?
Ope
Eh, Gronk is Gronk. When you hire him to be a public persona, that's what you're going to get. And you know what you are getting as well.
Day 1 bullets:
- The theme song is tacky and the pirate ship theme is stupid.
- I can't stress how much I want Mojo and Gronk to fuck off.
- Wish Drew/Cesaro had more time.
- Didn't care for the Kabuki/Bliss tag match. I don't buy Alexa as a face at all.
- Corbin vs. Elias was an easy skip. Both are boring.
- Becky as the top star has definitely ended, and Shayna just isn't going to do well as a top heel on the main roster.
- Bryan/Zayn was ok. Seeing Bryan lose so easily just doesn't feel right. Zayn's great, but physically he looks like shit. Get him back into shape and back into wrestling attire.
- Nakamura is wasted alongside Cesaro. Dude has fallen far.
- Rollins and Kevin are fantastic, they killed it.
- Braun/Goldberg was what it needed to be. Glad Braun's champion now, but it's not like it will last long. It was supposed to be Roman, but hey it's Braun. Meaningless Goldberg title reign.
- Boneyard match was absolute sex.
Side notes:
- There are way too many titles. Way too fucking many, and most of them look like shit. The IC belt looks fine, but it doesn't look like an IC title, more like something you'd see on LU. The tag titles need to be merged. Enough of the colored leather, make the titles look actually prestigious. The look like color themed toys.
- A lot of the titles need to be retired/merged. Womens tag titles... Cruiserwight... RAW/SD tag titles... the 24/7... and I really dislike how there are two top belts (WWE and Universal).
- Michael Cole's commentary is still the mark of mediocre.
- I really really love Wrestlemania being two days. Hopefully they stick w/ this format because I'm not burnt out at all. I'm ready for Day 2.
- The roster is more than stacked and a large portion needs to be let go. The undercard is a mud layer. WWE needs to start making their superstars seem immortal and larger than life by making them seem like it takes a lot to defeat someone. If somebody goes down, it should feel like a big deal and it's meant to be.
- Title reigns need to mean something again. Braun's IC reign was non-existent, Wyatt's came and went for no reason, and not enough title holders are being utilized as such. Everybody seems like chickens w/ their heads cut off.
- WWE needs a complete and total overhaul, from the ground up. From the presentation to the way they format their shows.
WWE has been my first exposure to the bloke as I don't follow American Football. He's just grating and annoying to me.
I can honestly see why people would hate the boneyard match.
I went back and forth, and ultimately it won me over. I worry that it will now be overused. The Undertaker is probably the perfect character for this experience. We've had more than two decades of suspending disbelief. He's a gifted performer. It fits his character. His opponent is also one of the more gifted performers we've seen in a long-time. It was present in a strange feeling environment, not as a tv watching experience for a live arena (could have killed a crowd). It was the right decision for it go last. For me, they made it work.
But these were a unique set of circumstances
I don't see this working 2 or 3 times a year.
Bliss/cross vs kabuki warriors and elias/corbin were a bit meh for me.
Baszler vs. Lynch was solid, but I thought the pin looked weak. Other than that fine.
Enjoyed Bryan vs, Zayn. Hope we see some more there.
Also enjoyed Owens and Rollins.
Strowman vs Goldberg was what it was. Accomplished what it needed to. Hope Strowman can make this work during a very weird time.
Owens said he was going to jump off the ship if they were at the stadium. Unreal.
Gronk is winning the 24/7 title at some point tonight.
Thank you. There is a leap I can't really take going from planned sports entertainment, to just awful b movie silliness. It makes it hard for me to even accept it as Styles/Taker match in the records.
Cannonball lol!
I hope it goes back to Truth tonight as well, but I could see them having Gronk leave with it tonight.
You might wanna skip Wyatt/Cena tonight then because it will have the same type of cinematic presentation.
If I have one complaint about the Boneyard Match (other than the excessive camera angle changes) it's that Taker didn't finish him off with a signature move, just a mediocre big boot. Would have been nice if he put him in the grave with a chokeslam or Last Ride or if he dropped him with a Tombstone and dumped him in, just to really put his signature on the win. As it was, the finish felt a little anticlimactic. A throat slash preceeded Tombstone to wrap it up would have been icing on the cake.
He did chokeslam him off a huge building just before.
I didn't read anything after you shit on blinding light by the weekend.
Best WM theme ever
I know. That's why it felt anticlimactic afterward. If he'd done the "Ya fought yer ass off, kid" thing and fake walking away only to roll his eyes back, whirl around and Tombstone him...just could have been a little more oomph at the end.
They wanted a "This is Sparta" moment I assume
It's an absolute bop.
With the Pirates of the Caribbean nonsense at the start, I guess I shouldn't be surprised if they want to reference something else that peaked a decade ago...
Saliva "Ladies and Gentlemen" is my favourite Mania theme.
I really liked this one:
To me that taker AJ match maybe top 20 of all time at WM Owens Rollins was great and the latter match was good
FWIW: Owens said that anyone involved in the tapings since they've gone to the PC had their temperature taken before entering and when leaving. They thoroughly wiped down and sanitized the PC. They wiped down the ropes after every match, and the mats were changed after every match. There was no mandate from above that the virus couldn't be mentioned in any promo.
Watched a lot of mania stuck in traffic in my car.
- The women's tag was ok. I wonder why there was so much jump cutting and shit in this one match but nowhere else on the card.
- Elias/Corbin was just what I figured. Awful.
- Ladder match was badass. Bumps like that seem to actually hit harder in an empty arena.
- Sami/Bryan was the best "wrestling" all night but we knew that going in.
- Shayna should've beat Becky obviously but I figured we'd be getting more happy endings than normal to send the kids home who are already home happy. The match was good though.
- Braun beating Goldie was the right move. I bet they don't have a deal wth him going forward and they had planned on crowning Roman again...I hope everyone understands Roman will be beating Braun in like a week.
- OMFG TAKER AJ TAKER AJ TAKER AJ.
Forget "broken Matt". No no sir. This was full blown LUCHA UNDERGROUND. There was no tongue in cheek/intentionally bad anything. It was a well put together, action movie, fight sequence and it was AMAZING. I love Cornette and I'm sure he died of shock last night but fuck it. I want one of these every single year.
SO looking forward to Bray/Cena now.
All in all. You have to hand it to WWE. This show had every reason to suck ass and yet it didn't. Way to go.
Last edited by Rancid_Planet; April 5th, 2020 at 3:46 PM.
That was the perfect Mania theme to an average Mania. My Way is the perfect Mania song for the perfect Mania.
Reported tidbits on the Boneyard Match:
- The set took five days to build.
- The match took eight hours to film, all done overnight.
- There was NXT production that was involved, but most of the legwork came via local production companies.
- The original entrance for Taker was slightly different than what was presented, due to permit issues.
- The druids were hired talent and nervous with the fact they wanted to take the attacks credibly.
- The promo work done during the match was improvised.
- Taker wasn't supposed to bleed during the window shot. The production team considered reshooting from the other side of the hearse to eliminate the blood but it was kept as is.
- The AJ hand was a prop and Taker felt that was a callback to his buried alive match and wanted that to be one of the closing shots.
- Triple H and Michael Hayes were the lead producers for the match.
Bring on part 2...we ready.
We need a AJ/Taker 2 at next years.
Watching WM35 on espn still don’t get angle jobbing to corbin
stfu graves
Final match. He does the honors.
I wonder if they filmed these Kickoff matches after the fact or something. Both last night and tonight there aren't any stickers on the ring posts, just the plain gray metal or whatever they are made of.
Too many times the refs count to 2 when wrestlers clearly kick out at 1.
Prob different times, as both this and Cole last night seems like voiceovers instead of live calling.
I swear to God if Fred fucking durst didn't wanna give up. Rollin for one fucking night...
Oh good, we are just gonna do the same opening again
Oh my gosh, I hate this intro.
Oh...the twenty minute opening again.
Just got done with part 1.
Absolutely loved the boneyard match. That was all I needed. Not sure I can get thru part 2 live. The opening package is horrible.
Its only got ten more minutes before the show....
This is a fantastic opening video. Love it even more the second time.
This match gonna be good
I've got a shitload of work to be doing, a 5 month old baby that will wake me up at 6am but fuck it, got to watch it live.
That intro is proper Wrestlecrap right there.
I wonder if this show had gone off the way it was supposed to, if Vince would have tried to get Tom Brady there to do something with Gronk, since Brady has just recently signed with Tampa.
Why you gotta make me sad....
This match is 100 times better then the Becky match
WTF stop having Charlotte win bullshit
Damn, Charlotte/Rhea just put together a classic there.
Match of the weekend so far. No gimmicks, no shortcuts, just brilliant wrestling.
These two ladies are amazing. Good match.
STFU right?
There was no reason for Charlotte to win
i wasnt too into it
So if they are classing the NXT championships as legit world titles now does that make Bo Dallas a former world champ?
I wanted Rhea to win but damn, that was good stuff...
Yes, there was. She won so she could win.
Rhea's redemption could be a neat summer program if there were crowds and shit...
But then that would mean that Drew saying he's never held a world championship is a lie.
Rhea's going to beat her when there's a crowd, so there's that. Right choice for me. Match was awesome, Charlotte is frustrating a lot of the time but when she's on she's the absolute best.
Normal Lashley crowd reaction.
Bobby Lashley has a new man's sexy...
Wrestlemania wouldn't be the same without Aliester Black sitting in the middle of the ring doing nothing.
FTFY
Glad that's over. Can Lashley just... go away now please?
Black vs. Lashley was pretty solid. Not a "Wrestlemania worthy" match. Maybe a Backlash worthy match.
Lashley ate that kick pretty awesome on the first spear attempt. And he took that moonsault like a pro, which sometimes isn't popular in WWE.
I think he should just job until he gets angry and goes after Lesnar one day.
He's so pretend.
If WWE were smart, they'd put the product on "pause" after Smackdown! Friday night and rehab/repackage some of their talents.
Lashley would be first on my list. Don't ditch Lana, but Bobbo needs a repackaging as a badass MMA fighter. If they could rehash Lashley's Impact character, he'd be a major draw in WWE. A full-time "Black Lesnar" with a hot chick as his valet, who's big, strong, and a legit fighter?
That's a license for the WWE to print money against the right opponent.
He needs to make an extended stay in Suplex City.
This thread rulz by the way
So... is Sonya trying to break Mandy and Fat Fuck Barrel Boy up so she can have Mandy for herself?
Now, this is the match that's hurt the most by having no crowd. Otis was the hottest thing in WWE.
Lashley/Lesnar is a legitimate license to print money, if they actually booked it right?
I love how it's just Otis now. What happened to Tucker?
Guess Mandy will help Otis win
Sonya is hot
Somehow, Charles Robinson apparently can not hear Cole screaming that it was a low blow.
Otis is so money.
Love Otis and he got the girl
That still felt pretty good even without the crowd. But it would have been so much more special with an audience.
I liked the match but the kiss was gross. So inappropriate.
This is the match. This right now. I am as pumped for this than I have been for anything in the last 5 years.
Edge. Wrestlemania. This build. Fuck, this is going to be unreal.
Ambush?
edit:
AMBUUUUUUUSH!!!!
This is the only match I wish wasn't happening.
It will probably be great but seeing Edge coming out with no crowd just feels a bit sad. Personally I would have carried on the Edge injury angle until public gatherings can happen again but oh well.
Ugh, and they cut to the camera and it's still running. Fucking awesome right there. Loving this so much already.
Cmon, Gargano and Ciampa did this before shows at the PC were cool...
Orton's "Is that not a count?" line as he stared down the referee might be the moment of the night.
Edge with a flying penis attack on Orton.
This is fucking wrestling.
This is No Holds Barred.
This is great
Loving this brawl. That elbow was pretty awesome.
IN-CREDIBLE.
Like the boneyard match, I think this one is benefitting from the change of scenery. Really enjoying night 2 as well.
This is fucking outstanding.
The match, not the commentary, who sounds as if they're at Augusta.
Damnit, now im sad about Augusta too....
Kudos kudos to edge and randy amazing match
This match just jumped the shark.
Damn ref. Randy has a family to you asshole.
love the ending. not some clever finish where the guy is trapped or something, but the loser is just totally laid out, not even making an effort to get up, and the winner just stands over him for the whole 10 count. how often has that happened in LMS matches?
Rated R Suuuuuuperstar
One hour to go and still 4 matches left. I wonder if we are going later than 10pm tonight.
Damn that was one hell of a match
That's over 10 guys right...
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