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    And to think, at the time, WrestleMania 32 was quite disrupted by injuries etc. At this rate, 'Mania 36 is going to be headlined by Shane winning the big one from Billy boy.

    I shouldn't joke.

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    If they reward Braun after all the shit he came out with about wrestling last week, given that AEW is on fire at the moment, I might take a short holiday from WWE.

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    What happened with Braun last week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    If they reward Braun after all the shit he came out with about wrestling last week, given that AEW is on fire at the moment, I might take a short holiday from WWE.
    I'd be fairly surprised if he won. I imagine he's just there to take the pin and pause the story until things can hopefully resume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    What happened with Braun last week?
    https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/ww...y-coronavirus/

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    Where’s the mania spoilers lads?

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    Val Venis defeated D'Lo Brown in the opener.

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    What a dumb shit. 100% chance he's the type of guy who would complain about the government canceling student loans by saying "what about me, I paid mine!"

    I look forward to this tweet biting him in the ass when his house is foreclosed on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    Val Venis defeated D'Lo Brown in the opener.
    We’re going to fall out me and you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Weíre going to fall out me and you.

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    The way the news is being reported is a bit wonky. Mania's already been taped, but they're reporting it like Mania is upcoming and will be affected (but the affect hasn't happened yet), rather than the fact that it's already been taped and the changes would have already taken place. They're reporting it like the wrestlers pulling out is breaking news happening right now but if the show's already taped, they already did and it's already done...? So it's more just that we don't know the changed and WWE hasn't announced them, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    Don’t know why but I’m thinking D’Lo & Venis has a match at a Mania?

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    If they're not honest about removing Roman, I'm done after 'Mania. Being honest could save a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Don’t know why but I’m thinking D’Lo & Venis has a match at a Mania?
    Here's hoping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Batter View Post
    If they're not honest about removing Roman, I'm done after 'Mania. Being honest could save a life.
    Yeah, all this shit makes me even more uncomfortable than the Saudi stuff. Speaking of which, WWE is no longer available in Saudi Arabia, I hear. Or did I dream that?

    Or is this all a dream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    Yeah, all this shit makes me even more uncomfortable than the Saudi stuff. Speaking of which, WWE is no longer available in Saudi Arabia, I hear. Or did I dream that?

    Or is this all a dream?
    That is correct. It is not available there.

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    Miz and lashley out now.

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    Another big name apparently out



    Why bother honestly.

    Anyway, someone posted this on another forum. No idea if the guy is full of shit but other posters responded in a way that suggested they had a track record of getting info so why not post it and generate some discussion:

    I learned about Roman late Wednesday night.

    Expect other pullouts of the men with young families variety.

    But there's a boarder theme and consideration though that's more interesting than wrestlers finally doing the right thing for once and not being macho or brand whores. I can't emphasise this enough Vince has lost SO much respect, the fear factor etc over the last while. Creative, personal conduct, business acumen wise it is all completely shot.

    If/when WWE comes back in front of live crowds and normalcy expect WCW levels of phoning it and dead behind the eyes. So much of WWE's success was based on impressing the great Vince McMahon and "Vince wouldn't ask talent to do something he would do on TV" (Vince famously pissed his pants in a segment with Steve Austin). But that's largely gone now.

    It has been and will be a death by a thousand cuts.

    Even before the Coronavirus emerged. Effectively eliminating live events, not keeping wrestlers busy and non-thinking, paying some mid to low card silly money to stay for another 5 years and thus not linking performance to pay anymore was a recipe for a disaster.

    Then you have got the knock-on effect that creates log jam for an already deeply overstuffed NXT roster when it comes to call ups. The very recent trend of using NXT talent as enhancement talent on Raw and Smackdown hasn't gone down well morale wise. A lot of really passionate wrestlers who really bought into the dream from childhood are being left with little choice but to retrain their brain to just collect the money and stop caring about pride at this point.

    But this time off has allowed the entire roster top to bottom and every brand to reflect on what a shitty system WWE has, there is life outside of Wrestling, sniff the roses and admire the birds on their back porch, realise they actually like spending time with their partner and children, ponder an exit strategy and all that stuff.

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    I saw somebody write that it's no surprise the industries without unions (MMA, pro wrestling) are the ones trying to carry on through this shit. Vince and Dana weren't looked at as pillars of humanity before, but this has really shown them up as utter bastards.

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    Still not announced anything. My hope is that Reigns has an isolated promo where he tells people to stay the fuck indoors. If not, scumbags.

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    There needs to be better branding than "2 big for one night"

    Wrestleminia

    Wrestlemania....2 nights.....Socially distanced




    bring back Damien Sandow to pantomime a match.

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    Imagine the morale in this company.

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    They need to get Vince into the nursing home now.

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    Not until after his 7 hour Iron Man match with Shane.

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    There has to be some repercussions for this decision making, surely? It might be the stupidest thing in the history of the business, honestly. They've brought these men and women out of their communities during a global pandemic to play fight in their pants to silence, for what?

    The ideal scenario would have been to utilise their expansive back catalogue to make stars of the roster. Being out their week by week with the booking has cooled almost everybody off. A rebuild for all their stars would have been awesome - Styles beating Cena x2, both title wins, a Jericho win etc. A Drew career retrospective. Splice in promos the guys can cut at home. Surely the people watching no audience WWE would still tune in to watch that? Then when the world is ready for Wrestlemania you have everybody positioned in big spots looking the business having been spotlighted and not been pinned on TV in months, as well as the furore over live wrestling being back. The wrestlers would be healthy and rejuvenated, their star power greater due to the absence factor, riding the wave of a world in good spirits over being over the worst of the pandemic.

    Or you chuck random matches at a dart board because half of your roster calls in sick and you film it in a gym lol.

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    It sounds like KO performed, but Cesaro and Asuka did not.

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    They're still advertising Asuka for a match tonight, as well as Miz and Morrison's involvement against the #1 contenders. The fuck? This company rushes announcements and spoilers on the website all the time, yet hasn't addressed this?

    There's literally no mention of coronavirus anywhere on WWE.com. They're literally no selling the disease that shut the planet down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Batter View Post
    They're still advertising Asuka for a match tonight, as well as Miz and Morrison's involvement against the #1 contenders. The fuck? This company rushes announcements and spoilers on the website all the time, yet hasn't addressed this?
    I might have misread. It could be that Asuka and Cesaro performed at the tapings but are now out of action. I don't know, this is an A-1 cluster fuck.

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    It's the most fascinating thing. Truly mad. It's a shame the circumstances will prevent a proper 24 from being made, as it would all make a hell of a documentary. Watching Vince's gradual descent from "we're keeping an eye on the situation" to being at home 10 days before 'Mania trying to edit a Goldberg vs. whoever the fuck empty arena match into something watchable would be incredible.

    The remnants of the intended 'Mania have been making me laugh too with the continuation of the pirate theme. Everything is going to be OK. There's no place like home, there's no place like home.

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    At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they filmed some stuff for a documentary.

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    Just a rolling clip of Vince's reaction when Ric Flair returned would see me right.

    That's another thing. A genuine interview with Vince McMahon would do big numbers for Raw I think. Why doesn't the daft cunt just do that? I'd be all over that, an endlessly fascinating, complex nut case of a man. Air that spliced in with classic footage based around the content he's talking about at that time. Use the vault and loads of unused backstage footage. Ratings. Without risking the wellbeing of the talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Batter View Post
    Just a rolling clip of Vince's reaction when Ric Flair returned would see me right.

    That's another thing. A genuine interview with Vince McMahon would do big numbers for Raw I think. Why doesn't the daft cunt just do that? I'd be all over that, an endlessly fascinating, complex nut case of a man. Air that spliced in with classic footage based around the content he's talking about at that time. Use the vault and loads of unused backstage footage. Ratings. Without risking the wellbeing of the talent.
    I have no idea how anyone could trust what he would say in that given interview because: he's delusional, he's prone to spinning a story, and he's old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I have no idea how anyone could trust what he would say in that given interview because: he's delusional, he's prone to spinning a story, and he's old.
    That's what would make it great TV. His appearance on the Austin podcast was a precursor, and THAT Playboy interview. Just an odd, odd man. I'd watch the shit out of it.

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    Meltzer said Edge vs. Orton took place at the tapings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Batter View Post
    That's what would make it great TV. His appearance on the Austin podcast was a precursor, and THAT Playboy interview. Just an odd, odd man. I'd watch the shit out of it.
    Well you initially cited a genuine interview, so I was saying that's not happening lol.

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    Damn, this thing's in shambles.

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    Maybe they're just trolling the sheets. Some of the info has been debunked already so who knows.

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    SmackDown related posts have been moved to the official SD thread where any SD related chatter can continue.

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    I truly hope no one gets sick or worse dies from the last two weeks plus if this nonsense. Just move it to May or not have it in a garbage State like Florida. Hawaii is nice.

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    Wrestlemania: The best of what is left.

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    Has Strowman/Goldberg been confirmed yet?

    Because if not, I know I mentioned Bryan earlier (which obviously isn't going to happen), but, you know, wouldn't it be the perfect opportunity to make a new main event megastar from out of nowhere?

    Goldberg vs Riddle. Do it. Dooooooo it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Has Strowman/Goldberg been confirmed yet?

    Because if not, I know I mentioned Bryan earlier (which obviously isn't going to happen), but, you know, wouldn't it be the perfect opportunity to make a new main event megastar from out of nowhere?

    Goldberg vs Riddle. Do it. Dooooooo it!
    Yes, it has been confirmed.

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    If only Braun hadn't started that shit on indy wrestkers then this would've been good.

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    So, they'll finally put the strap on Braun when there's no one in the arena to pop?

    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Goldberg vs Riddle. Do it. Dooooooo it!
    I read this as Goldberg fighting Voldemort and am 100% in on that.

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    With the top two men's title matches:
    - Would you be pissed with a no contest for the WWE title with the mindset that they're wanting to do it right for McIntyre to where he can get his win in front of a crowd so play the long waiting game?
    - Would you be pissed with Goldberg retaining the Universal title with the mindset they don't want to play hot potato with the title and Reigns is still the end destination as the champion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    With the top two men's title matches:
    - Would you be pissed with a no contest for the WWE title with the mindset that they're wanting to do it right for McIntyre to where he can get his win in front of a crowd so play the long waiting game?
    - Would you be pissed with Goldberg retaining the Universal title with the mindset they don't want to play hot potato with the title and Reigns is still the end destination as the champion?
    - no
    - ...

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    I figure, despite this being a Mania, people would be okay with a no contest for the WWE title match because the end goal is the most desired by anyone invested in the company. There's always the risk they change their mind and totally move on to someone else but I think this would be doing things right to an extent for McIntyre.

    I just don't see the upside in Strowman winning here. The only glimmer of upside is that they'd be doing a service to the audience because they provided a surprising finish to a match that no one expected. Problem is, Strowman is absolutely cold from a booking perspective and he's just going to be fodder for Reigns when things normalize.

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    If Strowman hadn’t been an arse to Indy wrestlers, I’d have been okay with it.

    Now DQ then Roman wins.

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    The bonus with Strowman winning is that he's never really looked like a schmuck against Roman, and it was actually a well received feud that did good things for both men. Braun as the pandering babyface is DOA too so recasting him as the terminator of 2017 would serve him well. Plus, it's not fucking Goldberg in 2020. Finally, it's that "anything can happen in the WWE", the notion that a guy not on the card on Thursday can be the champion come Sunday. I hate the dishonesty surrounding Reigns but I'd get the angle.

    Brock should retain. My ideal would be it gets thrown out on a big bump on night 1, Drew comes out of it worse off but demands the rematch on night 2 and just about gets beat. Have him show a set of bollocks, Brock takes off until Summerslam, Drew wins Money in the Bank whenever it gets rescheduled, calls his shot, no contest tease, get back up, win clean.

    It's a really tough thing to book. You're running the shows to "make the fans happy", but you're neutering good moments if certain babyfaces win. Rhea, Edge, Drew, Owens, they could all benefit from beating their opponents in front of crowds. Yet if you don't have them win, you kind of have to give faces like 'Taker and Becky wins to even it out when they don't need it.

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    Twitter thing and last minute replacement aside, they’ve missed the boat so many times that Otis Redding/Braun Strowman is still sitting on the dock of the bay.

    The guy was a monster who would come out of ambulances and destroy whole armies. Brock made him look like a weak mofo on more than one occasion. Sami and pals made him look like fucking weak when he used to eat 5 people for brekky in the EC (except Roman). He’s as cold as Antarctica when he was once as hot as the sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    If Strowman hadnít been an arse to Indy wrestlers, Iíd have been okay with it.

    Now DQ then Roman wins.
    It's his opinion. I'm not sure why that would hurt him booking wise. It's not like he's out there saying racial slurs or being homophobic.

    I fully expect Braun Strowman to leave WrestleMania with the title, and if any other scenario happens I will be sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    It's his opinion. I'm not sure why that would hurt him booking wise. It's not like he's out there saying racial slurs or being homophobic.

    I fully expect Braun Strowman to leave WrestleMania with the title, and if any other scenario happens I will be sad.
    No but twitter thing aside, the moment is gone in my eyes. Even if he destroys a 50-odd year old man, that should not be his first title reign.

    He should have eaten Brock for breakfast by now or Roman/multiple opponents. He’s not or ever going to be a monster any more to me no matter what they do with him from here. They pissed up the fucking wall with his booking.

    Sorry....

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    Yeah, if he does win now it will be three years too late.

    Also, I like Strowman the character. The guy behind the character, not so much.

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    I don't see a good reason to hold off on "big wins" for there to be a crowd when you have no idea when there will actually be able to be a crowd and the build would have to be prolonged for who knows how long then and likely would cool off anyone giving a shit considerably.

    Also, turn Strowman heel. Capitalize on the heat from the Twitter stuff and revitalize his character.

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    I highly doubt the Twitter stuff bodes negatively for Strowman. If anything, it's like a warning. but I doubt it derails him from winning if he were going to win. The bigger issue is he's cold.

    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I don't see a good reason to hold off on "big wins" for there to be a crowd when you have no idea when there will actually be able to be a crowd and the build would have to be prolonged for who knows how long then and likely would cool off anyone giving a shit considerably.

    Also, turn Strowman heel. Capitalize on the heat from the Twitter stuff and revitalize his character.
    The only person I'd hold off in this scenario is McIntyre. Everyone else, in my opinion, is fine to win here and move along the trail. It's not a stubborn stance with McIntyre, but I can see the reasoning for it.

    Turning Strowman could work to heat him up but it'll be undercut rather fast if they move the title right away to Reigns, which I'm guessing is what they want to do. And they'd eventually want to go to Reigns/Fiend. Strowman just seems like he could be very close to a lost cause in some ways. There would be a lot of work needed to be done with him to wash away the wasted opportunities.
    Last edited by BGMaverick; March 31st, 2020 at 11:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I highly doubt the Twitter stuff bodes negatively for Strowman. If anything, it's like a warning. but I doubt it derails him from winning if he were going to win. The bigger issue is he's cold.
    Exactly. They should’ve done it fucking years ago!

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    Oh shit, I think I know what they're gonna do and I think my "turn Strowman heel" thing might be exactly what's gonna happen. They were still plugging Reigns vs. Goldberg on RAW because on SmackDown, Strowman's going to attack Roman and take him out and take his spot. Calling it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    Oh shit, I think I know what they're gonna do and I think my "turn Strowman heel" thing might be exactly what's gonna happen. They were still plugging Reigns vs. Goldberg on RAW because on SmackDown, Strowman's going to attack Roman and take him out and take his spot. Calling it now.
    That would be cool. I like heel Strowman.

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    Imagining heel Strowman just being a dickhead slapping Big Bill around like a big cocky young meat castle with the grizzled old vet trying to shut him down sounds substantially better than the Reigns/'Berg match we were going to get. We've never really gotten to see Strowman lean into being arrogant and cocky and I think he could really shine at it and, like I see, be exactly the refresh he needs right now.

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    It wouldn't make a jot of sense though. If Roman isn't wrestling because of the infectious nature of the disease, he's not taking a kicking off anybody either. Though I guess they could do the unseen breakdown, have Braun replace him then do the reveal at a later date.

    It's fucking stupid anyway. A lot of people watch wrestling and it's pretty irresponsible not to present reality in this instance. If airing Roman's Instagram post last night saved just one person with immune deficiencies life, it would have been worth it. I digress.

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    They pretaped everything. if Reigns was planning to pull out, they may have pretaped the attack once they made the new plan. But like you said, they don't even need to show the attack, Bill can be in the ring waiting for Reigns, cut to the back where he's laid out cold, then Braun comes out, takes credit for the attack, and away we go...

    For what it's worth, I do agree with the other stuff you're saying about their approach. I suspect it has to do with their whole "putting smiles on people's faces" bullshit where they don't want to dampen their entertainment with the reality of the situation because they think it'll bring folks down, they're trying to keep it escapism/forget reality for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    With the top two men's title matches:
    - Would you be pissed with a no contest for the WWE title with the mindset that they're wanting to do it right for McIntyre to where he can get his win in front of a crowd so play the long waiting game?
    - Would you be pissed with Goldberg retaining the Universal title with the mindset they don't want to play hot potato with the title and Reigns is still the end destination as the champion?
    I wouldn't mind a no contest or Brock cheating to retain as long as Drew wins the title at the very next PPV with a live audience. Since you brought it up, I am apprehensive about the delay because Vince always changes his mind. The whole reason Drew got such a big push is because of some new TV deal in the UK and Vince decided to push a UK talent. If that deal doesn't pan out, then Drew could get dropped like Jinder.

    I have mixed feelings about Goldberg retaining. I'm not too high on Braun right now, but I want the title to be on TV and not hanging in Goldberg's closet or around his son's waist as he Jackhammers his Avenger's figures. In the end, I'd rather the belt be on TV every week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    If Strowman hadn’t been an arse to Indy wrestlers, I’d have been okay with it.

    Now DQ then Roman wins.
    After those comments, I kind of want to see Bill squash Braun, but it will probably be a short competitive match unless Braun actually does turn heel.

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    Strowman turning heel by getting another kid to be in his corner then saying nah making the kid cry would be quality. They should turn him into a humungous bully if they do the heel route with him.

    Turning heel on an old man who most folk want to see lose anyway doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post

    Turning heel on an old man who most folk want to see lose anyway doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.
    This is the issue I have with the turn. Of course, a lot of it hinges on how they film things for the angle but Goldberg isn't an overly endearing face right now so it relies a lot on how they framed the angle. If it were in front of a live crowd, it'd be tougher because the crowd would eat that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    This is the issue I have with the turn. Of course, a lot of it hinges on how they film things for the angle but Goldberg isn't an overly endearing face right now so it relies a lot on how they framed the angle. If it were in front of a live crowd, it'd be tougher because the crowd would eat that up.
    Really Bryan is the ideal chappy for him to turn heel against. Thinks he's going to help him but no he does the complete opposite. Simple "Size Matters, David vs Goliath" storyline. Yes I know Sheamus has been kinda doing that at the moment with Gable, but with this it would be magnified with how over Bryan is. Bryan trying to figure out a way to slay the Monster.

    A monster that also moves quick unlike with Cass when they tried that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    This is the issue I have with the turn. Of course, a lot of it hinges on how they film things for the angle but Goldberg isn't an overly endearing face right now so it relies a lot on how they framed the angle. If it were in front of a live crowd, it'd be tougher because the crowd would eat that up.
    But it's not in front of a live crowd which is why this would be the best time to do it. Just have Strowman talk shit and slap him around. Strowman's one of the few guys that 'Berg could actually play a bit of an underdog against. Let Strowman keep him down most of the match so Bill doesn't have to do much other than take a beating, less room for error on Bill's part that way. Even having Goldberg attempt and fail the Jackhammer would play perfectly into the story so we don't have to see a shit one like the one on Fiend. A couple of spears don't get it done and then Strowman hits back to back powerslams for the win. Shit, you could even go for a heel Strowman vs. face-turned Fiend (after redeeming himself against Cena) after this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    But it's not in front of a live crowd which is why this would be the best time to do it. Just have Strowman talk shit and slap him around. Strowman's one of the few guys that 'Berg could actually play a bit of an underdog against. Let Strowman keep him down most of the match so Bill doesn't have to do much other than take a beating, less room for error on Bill's part that way. Even having Goldberg attempt and fail the Jackhammer would play perfectly into the story so we don't have to see a shit one like the one on Fiend. A couple of spears don't get it done and then Strowman hits back to back powerslams for the win. Shit, you could even go for a heel Strowman vs. face-turned Fiend (after redeeming himself against Cena) after this.
    I think crowd or not, the intended heel reaction may not happen. The watching social media crowd may just post "Oldberg's down, thank fuck lol" Plus, Goldberg will be gone after this

    Strowman needs to be a complete prick against somebody small and full time if they go the heel route IMO eg Bryan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    But it's not in front of a live crowd which is why this would be the best time to do it. Just have Strowman talk shit and slap him around. Strowman's one of the few guys that 'Berg could actually play a bit of an underdog against. Let Strowman keep him down most of the match so Bill doesn't have to do much other than take a beating, less room for error on Bill's part that way. Even having Goldberg attempt and fail the Jackhammer would play perfectly into the story so we don't have to see a shit one like the one on Fiend. A couple of spears don't get it done and then Strowman hits back to back powerslams for the win. Shit, you could even go for a heel Strowman vs. face-turned Fiend (after redeeming himself against Cena) after this.
    I think the chances of it succeeding (the turn) are dramatically low in front of a crowd. I know it's clearly not happening in front of a crowd but a crowd is a sampling of the viewing audience. The viewing audience doesn't really like Goldberg since he took the title away. That's why it's really important for them to frame the angle in a way that leaves nothing to chance if you're going to execute a turn.

    Something like Goldberg is in the ring, sees Reigns down, Goldberg comes to check on him and the Strowman takes him out. I'm not saying that's the perfect blueprint but something substantial needs to happen to shift the narrative in the eyes of the audience because people like Strowman and don't like Goldberg. You've got to do something to create some sympathy rather than saying "hell yeah! Strowman took out a dude we don't like. GOOD!"

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    I mean they can do a turn, not do a turn. At this point it could be months before they are in front of a live audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soxfanatic View Post
    I mean they can do a turn, not do a turn. At this point it could be months before they are in front of a live audience.
    Thanks for the update.

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    Have they released which matches are on which night at all?

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    No.

    You would think tonight's episode is the last opportunity to really do so to an assumed wide audience.

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    I suspect they won't. That way you'll have to tune in to find out.

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    I think if they're being sold separately in some parts, you have to at least give the main and co-main of each night. I've got a feeling they'll play with it a bit too, like I can see a match getting thrown out on on the Saturday, double DQ or whatever, then announcing a stipulation rematch on the Sunday. There's a lot they can do to make it an inclusive weekend rather than just 2 stand alone shows. I'll fantasy book tomorrow when we know the announced card, cos there's nothing else to do!

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    Any virtual WrestleMania parties going on?

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    I actually can't wait for this. This really is the absolute pinnacle of Vince McMahon as a mad old bastard. Amazing. Just when you think watching people in their pants in an elaborate form of theoretical, athletic dance-fighting couldn't be any more bizarre, Vince raises the bar.

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    Usually at this point I've talked myself into being interested in even a mediocre card. Now I'm reminding myself of what the matches are.

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    I honestly don’t know if I can be arsed. Edge vs Orton is the only thing I’m really interested in. Drew maybe too but it’s just not gonna be the same without the crowd pop.

    Maybe if Gronk begins to host but has to leave at the start because his planet needs him. He doesn’t have to die on the way back but a sworn affidavit on him never returning would be lovely.

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    I definitely don't feel the usual WrestleMania buzz/hype I usually do but to be fair, nothing is normal right now and there's a nice ball of anxiety at the forefront of my emotions, so....

    Having said that, it'll be nice to have a couple nights to kick back and take my mind of the stresses of life and watch what should be a very unique, historic, and change of pace Mania. I may not be super hyped but I am super intrigued and eager to see how things go down.

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    Aye, intrigued is the word. Iíll be watching on a few hours delay on both days.

    As my dear old mother would say, Iíll be expecting the worst, but hoping for the best.

    Or something decent, anyway.

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    I'm looking forward to Edge/Orton a great deal. It should probably main event one of the nights. This is the start of a big run for Edge. He's probably underrated as an all timer, in an era of top tier guys his well roundedness harmed his legacy - great bell to bell but clearly behind the Eddie's and Rey's, great on the mic but clearly behind the Cena's and Jericho's. In an era now where the top guys are much the same prototype, his storytelling, charisma, size and psychology will stand out more and he can propel himself into that legendary tier.

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    Yeah as much as I want to skip this Mania, I have a morbid curiosity of what this will look like.

    Will this basically be like the Raws and Smackdowns we have been watching? How will they make this show feel "bigger" and more special?

    Indoor pyro? Special staging?

    I don't expect much, but I'm definitely curious to watch this historic event.

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    Apparently it has been deemed a "fireable" offense if someone within the company released spoilers to this Mania, so I think everyone's going to be in the clear to watch this without those being present.

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    Edge/Orton could be genuinely great in the empty arena setting. Needs to be sufficiently violent though to really deliver. Everything else? Fuck knows, but I'm intrigued by it all. I'm not expecting the shows to be "good" in a traditional sense necessarily but I hope that they are at least different. Bizarre and memorable. That'll do me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I honestly donít know if I can be arsed. Edge vs Orton is the only thing Iím really interested in. Drew maybe too but itís just not gonna be the same without the crowd pop.

    Maybe if Gronk begins to host but has to leave at the start because his planet needs him. He doesnít have to die on the way back but a sworn affidavit on him never returning would be lovely.
    Ah scratch this I'll be watching this.

    I still wish Gronk would go back to his home planet though.

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    Apparently Alter Bridge were scheduled to perform Edge's theme live when the show was still in Tampa. A shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Apparently Alter Bridge were scheduled to perform Edge's theme live when the show was still in Tampa. A shame.
    Ohhhhh that wouldve been sick as fuck.

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    I have a feeling that a returning Jax will help Tamina win the Belt from Bayley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milo View Post
    I have a feeling that a returning Jax will help Tamina win the Belt from Bayley.
    Tamina winning the belt would be up (or down if you like) there on the underwhelming title changes ever. Forget half the time she’s still employed.

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    For me, she's the worst professional wrestler of all time. Absolutely irredeemable as a performer, with a long career to back that up. No charisma, no mic skills, terrible in ring, clumsy, injury prone, unmarketable, has no idea how to project her considerable natural presence. There have obviously been worse in every metric, but nobody's managed to sustain such all round levels of shite anywhere close to how she has.

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    Tamina is basically a 2-move wrestler. Piss-poor superkick and a splash. Excited, curious for what the show might bring in terms of how they use their surroundings. So many unknowns about what could happen. Haven't bothered to look if there's a day 1/day 2 match card out there yet but don't care.

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    Well the first one just sounds absolutely delightful.

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    In terms of layout per show, I'm presuming both will have 1 kickoff match with 8 main card matches. In terms of prestige and audience anticipation:

    Lesnar vs. McIntyre = Edge vs. Orton
    Undertaker vs. Styles = Cena vs. Wyatt
    Goldberg vs. Strowman = Rollins vs. Owens
    Becky vs. Shayna = Charlotte vs. Rhea
    Women's 5 way = Women's tag title
    Bryan vs. Zayn = Smackdown tag title
    Raw tag title = Elias vs. Corbin
    Black vs. Lashley = Otis vs. Ziggler

    So I'd be having, obviously, 8 somewhat parallel matches per show. With that being said, for me:

    Night 1:

    Pre Show: Gulak vs. Cesaro - given how strong Cesaro looked in his bit last night, I'd be having him win and he and Nakamura in the IC title hunt after the weekend.
    Opener: Lesnar vs. McIntyre - start out with a shocker, like last year, have it go to a no contest after a big bump with Drew coming off worse for wear, to be continued
    Women's 5-way elimination match - Sasha wins, let's Bayley get pinned with the second from last elimination then gets the roll up of death on Naomi or Lacey to win the title
    Black vs. Lashley - Black Mass, thank you, good night.
    Something with Gronkowski to set up the Corbin vs. Elias match for night 2, presumably by replacing Elias
    Raw tag title - Obviously Street Profits win.
    Firefly Funhouse - Cena wins by virtue of Wyatt disappearing or something, to be continued
    Bryan vs. Zayn - Bryan wins clean
    Becky vs. Shayna - Shayna wins clean, probably by TKO
    Drew attacks Lesnar backstage in the medical room
    Goldberg vs. Strowman - should be Goldberg clean because there's no build, but the desire for buzz probably gives it Strowman
    Go off the air announcing that Lesnar and Drew will rematch tomorrow night, and there must be a winner

    Night 2

    Pre-Show: Natalya vs. Liv - Natalya wins based on hierarchy
    Opener: Smackdown tag title ladder match - if Miz is out like rumoured, they lose the belts to the Uso's and run the "we never lost as a team" angle when we're back off the break. If not, they retain.
    Women's tag titles - Kabuki Warriors win clean
    Rollins vs. Owens - Rollins wins with interference from a new "disciple".
    Otis vs. Ziggler - Ziggler wins in a shenanigans filled match with the women
    Boneyard match: Undertaker wins, get some Kane interference to counteract Gallows and Anderson
    Corbin vs. Elias or Gronk - Corbin loses with interference from the non-wrestling guy
    Cena calls out Wyatt in the ring, beats up Bray, lights out, gets killed by Fiend.
    Rhea vs. Charlotte - Charlotte wins in a shocker, setting up the rematch for Rhea to get the belt back at an NXT Takeover down the line
    Last Man Standing: Orton beats Edge with the return of the dreaded PUNT, writing Edge off until the big rematch at Summerslam
    WWE Title No Holds Barred: Drew beats Lesnar to win the title. Open the weekend with it, close the weekend with it. Displays Drew's got a set of bollocks on him by getting straight back after Brock after a big bump, Heyman and Brock's overconfidence, then showcases Drew in the biggest way possible by having him overcome and win clean after all that.

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    Teasing one match on night one before having the actual pay off on Night Two is a great idea and they'd be silly not to go down that route. And Brock/Drew is definitely the best candidate for that spot. Good shout. As always, well booked otherwise. That sounds like a pretty enjoyable two nights worth.

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    Smackdown tag title match is now a ladder match with Morrison, Kofi, and Jimmy Uso repping their teams.

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    This is gonna be odd.

    I've paid so little attention to the product for 6 months or more now and I'm going to sit and watch these programs culminate in a tiny empty arena.

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    one positive is the card feels much less predictable than usual now

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