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    Her absence will hopefully reestablish her, as she'd definitely fallen off in terms of feeling like a top star the last time we saw her. If she's firing on all cylinders she'll be vital in getting Tiff, Jade and a couple of the NXT standouts to the next level.

    I wouldn't mind the women's being won by a completely out there choice. Jordynne Grace maybe. Her and Rhea would be fun.

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    I do have to point out the irony in slighting Charlotte's altered look and then talking about Tiffy Time who has changed drastically in the last 12 months.

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    Fair one, I guess it's familiarity. I just hope they're all happy.

    Hell of an episode. This whole main event vortex that they've built predominantly through the Bloodline saga is fantastic. The main stories and mini stories they have for the Rumble is something I don't remember they've ever done. Now adding that Punk/Rhodes dynamic to it, while furthering the Sami story, chefs kiss. How do you pick a final 4 with Punk, Drew, Reigns, Rollins, Cena, Sami, Jey, Logan, Bron, Jacob, even Penta? It legit could be the best Rumble match ever. That pop/heat if Sami eliminates Roman! Heyman potentially turning with Punk on Roman! Cena tieing Austin to set up topping Flair!

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    That table bump from JD, ooft. Two broken ribs and a punctured lung and out for two months. Could’ve been a LOT worse though.

    Props to him for finishing the match though!

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    Big fan of Seth Rollins v. Gunther.

    Cody/Punk ending was solid.

    Sami still not getting a W over Drew is madness. Tag title match was solid. JD is so good at selling I wasn't even sure if he was hurt or just sold like a champ. Women's tag match was what it was. All in all a good show.

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    You know, I was home last night, alone, as the wife was working late, and I didn't once think about putting RAW on. So sorry for my failure to be a true fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    You know, I was home last night, alone, as the wife was working late, and I didn't once think about putting RAW on. So sorry for my failure to be a true fan.
    I figured now that Strowman is on Smackdown you were being tribal with WWE brands.

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    Well, with Hulu not showing Smackdown repeats anymore, I can't even watch that. Oh, wait, I can use my VPN to watch it on Netflix I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    You know, I was home last night, alone, as the wife was working late, and I didn't once think about putting RAW on. So sorry for my failure to be a true fan.


    I have actually managed to watch Raw live each week so far since the move to Netflix. That won't continue. I actually can't remember the last time I have watched Smackdown. Just normally the highlights. Same with NXT and AEW right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    That table bump from JD, ooft. Two broken ribs and a punctured lung and out for two months. Could’ve been a LOT worse though.

    Props to him for finishing the match though!
    It's a shame for him that he will miss the Rumble, and potentially the Wrestlemania payday (even if he was only going to be in the ARMBAR, or maybe a multi-man tag title match). I wonder where the storyline tension with Finn and the rest of Judgement Day goes in his absence.

    The match itself was very good. The WARVikingRaiders didn't deserve to lose since they only just got the titles, but I bought into Carlito's distraction/interference as a believable way to get the belts back onto Judgement Day, as a "win without Finn" would have fit the story.


    The opening promo was memorable as it whet our appetite for the inevitable Rollins-GUNTHER fued to come, and for how the crowd treated Paul on the mic worse than they treat DirtyDomDom. My guess is Paul is a fairly late entrant in the Rumble and he takes out Cena, so the 2 of them can fight at Mania.

    Pete Dunne warning Kaiser Ludwig to be very careful, then both of them wanting nothing to do with the New Day, was a nice touch. Too often heels are supposed to automatically like each other just because they are heels. Good for Woods' family getting to display new merch.

    Pat McAfee mocking Cole for his Wrestlemania 27 outfit was fun, even if that was a long long time ago, it was in Atlanta.

    Random thought - Since many of the legends are now shown sitting ringside, I am thinking we probably won't see a surprise Rumble entrant from the past. But I believe in Joe Hendry.

    Heyman's promo about Reigns being on the cover of 2K25, hyping him as the biggest star in the industry, really makes me want to see Rock-Roman, for the Ula Fala. I loved Drew talking to Heyman about send a message to his boy...and meaning it for Punk.

    Drew needing to cheat to beat Sami adds enough for me to wonder what the plans are for Sami. They are playing up the fact that Sami has never beaten Drew, so maybe he finally does it at Mania?

    Bron Breakker enterring the Rumble makes me wonder why he even has the IC title? How to de-elevate that title, 101.

    Punk seemed stronger in the closing promo than Cody.

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    Props to JD for finishing that match. That was a nasty bump.

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    I do think that we need to get back to that throwback Rumble participant. I know the roster is super stacked and usually that decision divides the fans (I can't believe Diesel took a spot from Primo Colon!!!) I just feel like we know the reality, there's maybe 5 people who have a realistic shot of winning and usually it's people who were already World champ or main eventing. So why not throw in Chris Masters or Paul London because I'd rather see that as opposed to Karrion Kross or Chad Gable get thrown out within a couple minutes killing their aura.

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    I agree. I mean while there is plenty of people to fill the Rumble I always like a nice random surprise like that

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    It'd be fun to see either RVD or maybe Jeff Hardy show up for a surprise Rumble appearance. In prior years, we might have seen a Santino Marella or Hornswoggle, or maybe a Hardcore Holly or JBL. They aren't going to spend the money it would take for Brock Lesnar or Stone Cold Steve Austin for a throwaway Rumble appearance.

    We're more likely to see legends show up for the women's Rumble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    It'd be fun to see either RVD or maybe Jeff Hardy show up for a surprise Rumble appearance. In prior years, we might have seen a Santino Marella or Hornswoggle, or maybe a Hardcore Holly or JBL. They aren't going to spend the money it would take for Brock Lesnar or Stone Cold Steve Austin for a throwaway Rumble appearance.

    We're more likely to see legends show up for the women's Rumble.
    Well that's the crazy thing, they would be more inclined to drop the $$$ to have Lesnar or Austin show up than they would for Paul London based on name value alone.

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    I'd be down for Paul London to enter, as long as Snitsky does too and they recreate their 2005 Rumble spot.

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    I mean they're both still working. Snitsky not as much as London but shit I just saw London team up with Stingray this weekend in a tag match against CW/Brock Anderson in MLW. Paul still has so much to offer to the mainstream. The guy is a cornerstone of the high flying style we see from damn near everyone in wrestling today. London, Styles, Daniels, those 3 right there changed the game. Just have Snitsky roll up in there and kill the guy again lol.

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    No shit? I saw CW/Brock Anderson over the weekend at an AML event. They faced Billy Gunn/George South and AJ Francis/Bojack and the Dawson brothers.

    Pretty funn match.

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    I'd rather see Ron Simmons come in just to say "Damn!"

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    London did a show for one of our local companies last year. Almost went because I had never seen him live.

    Honestly we are probably getting Hendry on the men's side and Grace and Slamovich on the women's side a surprises.

    I could see McAfee jumping in there.

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    God I hope Pat just stays at the booth. I know they'll be in his city but ffs we already have Logan Paul. Pat gassing out simply by walking from the booth to the ring in his too tight black jeans and Smedium black t-shirt is about as cool as Pete Rose the 40th time getting tombstoned by Kane.

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    I didn't even know the viking raiders were still in WWE, let alone tag champions

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    I'm just glad they finally changed them back to the War Raiders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I'm just glad they finally changed them back to the War Raiders
    I understand that she left to become a mom, but I miss Valhalla. Not sure if she ever said anything, but she added to their act.

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    Good stuff tonight, but also Charlotte as a face against Tiff is DOA after that Rhea promo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotjx View Post
    Good stuff tonight, but also Charlotte as a face against Tiff is DOA after that Rhea promo.
    Yeah they're not going to do face Charlotte v. face Tiffy. They're not going to turn Tiffy heel after turning babyface a couple weeks ago. Ultimately I imagine it'll be heel Charlotte v. face Tiffany.

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    I think what we're learning about Triple H's booking is that he knows how to build into a heel turn. Look at Drew in late 2023, KO last year, Rollins now. I expect he'll draw out this 'go away heat' for Charlotte until he flicks the switch and has her go violent on Tiff. Semi-expecting a bloody beat down to boot. My only thing is, who on earth wrestles Rhea? Do they just roll the dice with Jade or Jordynne? Go safe and big-time with Bianca?

    Punk cashing in the favour with Reigns costing Rollins at the Chamber? Makes sense. I've got a feeling Sami and KO get a match at the Chamber and they move on to KO and Randy at 'Mania. There's no indication that Orton is actually hurt so can't see him being kept off the card. Where that leaves Zayn I don't know.

    Assuming they do go Reigns vs. Rollins at 'Mania, they must have confidence that Roman is going to be around for a while. It did feel he might be done soon, but can't see them leaving him and Punk, Cody 3 and The Rock on the table in favour of that. It's a big match but Rollins has been positioned below those guys. I want Seth, KO and Drew entering like The Shield to surround Reigns, the Avengers assembling with Punk and Cody on the save, then Punk kills Cody and leaves Reigns to take a kicking. Cinema.

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    I wonder if they give us Roman v. The Rock and Seth Rollins v. CM Punk 2. We have over 2 months which is plenty of time to bring The Rock in and set the table so to speak for a match. We've already had the build going on 5 years and specifically Rock/Roman for the last year. I mean ffs they pieced together Punk/Taker for Mania not even factoring in their previous feud within a month of Mania.

    I honestly could see Rhea v. Charlotte 3 happening and maybe we get Tiffy v. Nia for the belt. I'm not a fan of Nia Jax, but I can see the writing on the wall. They're going to drag this shit out.

    As a hardcore wrestling fan it's exciting to not have a clear path for really anyone except maybe Jey Uso/Gunther for Mania. That match seems like a lock unless Cody or Gunther lose the title before Mania. Neither one are scheduled at the moment to defend the title at Chamber but you never know.

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    Anyone questioning Jey winning the Rumble needs to watch the opening segment of RAW and then shut the hell up. Goddamn, what an amazing crowd response. Loved the emotion from him, too. I'm entirely on board with him winning the big one.

    Seemed like Charlotte's promo was very much a "play it by ear" where she adjusted based on the crowd response. The lines addressing the boos seemed very improvised. Hoping she picks Tiffany but wouldn't be opposed to another round with Rhea.

    The EC qualifieers were very good. Penta/Kaiser was solid and nice to see Penta seems to be getting his first feud brewing.

    If I had to guess, I think it's Reigns vs. Rollins vs. Punk at Mania.

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    A triple threat with no stakes is just weird. If you are doing triple threat do Cody v Cena V Punk.

    I would rather have Cody/Punk, Cena/Drew, Gunther/Jey, Reigns/Rollins, Owens/Zayn, AJ/Logan Paul.

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    On Charlotte I think fans are a bit sick of the super push. I've seen Her v Rhea plenty, so hopefully she goes to Smackdown and puts over Tiffany. It's not clear who that leaves Rhea with though.

    There aren't many strong heels except Liv Morgan now, so maybe a rematch but seems underwhelming. Id like a Jade heel turn now that's a match right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Batter View Post
    I think what we're learning about Triple H's booking is that he knows how to build into a heel turn. Look at Drew in late 2023, KO last year, Rollins now. I expect he'll draw out this 'go away heat' for Charlotte until he flicks the switch and has her go violent on Tiff. Semi-expecting a bloody beat down to boot. My only thing is, who on earth wrestles Rhea? Do they just roll the dice with Jade or Jordynne? Go safe and big-time with Bianca?

    Punk cashing in the favour with Reigns costing Rollins at the Chamber? Makes sense. I've got a feeling Sami and KO get a match at the Chamber and they move on to KO and Randy at 'Mania. There's no indication that Orton is actually hurt so can't see him being kept off the card. Where that leaves Zayn I don't know.

    Assuming they do go Reigns vs. Rollins at 'Mania, they must have confidence that Roman is going to be around for a while. It did feel he might be done soon, but can't see them leaving him and Punk, Cody 3 and The Rock on the table in favour of that. It's a big match but Rollins has been positioned below those guys. I want Seth, KO and Drew entering like The Shield to surround Reigns, the Avengers assembling with Punk and Cody on the save, then Punk kills Cody and leaves Reigns to take a kicking. Cinema.
    Totally. You can really see the difference in mindset between Vince booking and HHH booking. Vince was all about “How can we keep this going?” and Hunter is more “How can we get there?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    A triple threat with no stakes is just weird. If you are doing triple threat do Cody v Cena V Punk.

    I would rather have Cody/Punk, Cena/Drew, Gunther/Jey, Reigns/Rollins, Owens/Zayn, AJ/Logan Paul.
    If they do a triple threat, they should make it for a #1 contender at the next SNME or PLE. It should be Roman v Seth v Drew. Is Backlash the one that follows?

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    I don't know that , in this particular case, a triple threat is that weird.

    There's a LOT of history in this match. Fuck, nobody's even tapped into Punk being against the Shield right before he left. I feel like there's enough personal stake here that these 3 can make it work.

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    Yeah wait until they mention Punk beat all 3 members of the Shield by himself and this triple threat should be a cake walk because Seth and Roman might hate Punk, but they hate each other even more.

    I actually like the idea but I don't know if we'll see it. Punk is the reason for Seth and Roman's success if we're keeping it "kayfabe" He created The Shield. He brought them up to guard him. Seth was probably Punk's #1 pick and then when WWE forced Roman in to take Hero's spot, it probably made Seth a little jealous. Seth had a bad rep for awhile in NXT. He was almost cut. If it wasn't for people like Punk, who knows where Seth would be. I'm obviously mixing reality and script, but there's so much going on in that match. It also shows just how fucking stacked WWE if they're possibly going to do a triple threat.

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    But who benefits from a triple threat with those three (Rollins/Roman/Punk)? They are already established main eventers destined for the Hall of Fame. It just feels like they are shoving Seth into this mix because Big Bronson Reed splattered himself by landing his spot wrong.

    Seth has taken plenty of losses and only makes us want to watch him more, and he elevates everyone he works with.

    Roman is now a part-timer. There's still a lot more meat on the bone with him and Solo / Jacob Fatu, and if Jey wins over GUNTHER, I expect Roman to do a job for Jey, as returning the favor will help solidify Jey as belonging in that top spot. One thing I feel certain of is that Jey won't have a yearlong run.

    Which leaves Punk. If they make this a #1 contender instead of a grudge match, Punk should win if he's in it.

    I'd rather they do a fatal fourway and include Drew, who deserves a big win in front of a huge crowd.

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    I'd like to see Seth vs. Roman as a singles match, and Punk win the EC and face Cody at Mania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveTonyKhan View Post
    I'd like to see Seth vs. Roman as a singles match, and Punk win the EC and face Cody at Mania.
    This is ultimately where I think it's headed... I feel like people are prematurely predicting this three-way match with no stakes because of what they saw at the Rumble, but there's still another show and 10 weeks to go until we get to Mania. Punk/Rollins' issue could wrap at the Chamber, just as Roman returns in time to feud with Rollins. And there's always later down the line (SummerSlam?) to get Punk/Roman going.

    So where does it leave Cena? It doesn't put him in a Mania main event, but this final run doesn't HAVE to be such a quick burn. His story this year COULD be him attempting to get that last title and going through some trial and tribulation first. I'd say it'd be just as great to see him pinned by either McIntyre or Paul in the Chamber match and face (and defeat) that person at Mania, setting him on the path towards the title win later in the year.
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    Cena said he was finishing at Mania. I don't see him moving off that.

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    Cena is not finishing at Mania. He is finishing at the end of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Cena said he was finishing at Mania. I don't see him moving off that.
    Today I learned Cena was doing 40 dates in only 3 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidKitten View Post
    Today I learned Cena was doing 40 dates in only 3 months.
    Even less if you take into account he doesn't have any dates until Elimination Chamber.

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    I think it's too early for Cena to win the title and we should be waiting until the Fall. I just heard the WWE are putting together a ppv called Ruthless Aggression that will be this December in Boston to kind of put a bow on Cena's run. I imagine he'll have won/lost the title by then and it would be cool if they made this more of a celebration. Have as many of his top rivals speak on him from Angle, Punk, Orton, I'm sure a video package from Danielson and Edge would be possible.

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    We going to TD Garden in December?

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    December? Fuck i miss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    December? Fuck i miss?
    It isn't confirmed. Just rumors Nash posted and I read on reddit and other places.

    "WWE are putting together a ppv called Ruthless Aggression that will be this December in Boston to kind of put a bow on Cena's run."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Cena is not finishing at Mania. He is finishing at the end of the year.
    Maybe I just know about the secret plan CM Punk has to injure him?

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    Oh. Yeah, I’d go to that.

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