Apparently Chicago is moving on, per multiple reports. They're moving on to other QB options so Trubisky's seat isn't getting any cooler.Originally Posted by kdestiny
Apparently Chicago is moving on, per multiple reports. They're moving on to other QB options so Trubisky's seat isn't getting any cooler.
They can trade into the first.
DJ isn't injured, Arizona was just weird after he got healthy. I am sure he can bounce back if he has any semblance of an offensive line
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Not liking the other options available though
He's 28 though, and his best days are likely behind him.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about the O-line, but then you're talking about Houston's O-line so we're back to square one.
He's a physical freak. I think he still has another 2-3 great years left.
Lmao how about for David Johnson and a 2nd rounder
Jesus came in here to talk about the Titans tagging Henry (good move. Tag him again next year) and I see the shit show trade the Texans made.
Some people get enough rope to hang themselves. That fucking coach/GM/Football Czar is getting enough rope to hang everyone with.
Great article on it here
https://www.google.com/amp/s/touchdo...ans-doing/amp/
Getting a second round pick from Arizona this season gives Houston picks at 40 and 57. In a very deep and talented wide receiver class, they could look to either package those two picks and move into the first round to get a receiver, or perhaps take advantage of a receiver falling to them at either spot.So perhaps – perhaps – O’Brien is looking at the big picture here and trying to get ahead of the curve. With Hopkins due $12.5 million this season, $13.5 million in 2021 and $13.915 million in 2022, perhaps O’Brien sees a chance to find his replacement on a cost-controlled basis this year.The more bleak reading of this is that Arizona just really won this deal, and in other leagues the commissioner might step in to save O’Brien from himself.
Yeah let's not pay the best WR Iin football 12-14 million until he is 30. Let's pay a RB 10 million until he is.
Stupid fucking O Brien.
This one stuck out to me. How about you be a better negotiator then and get at least a first out of trading Clowney and Hopkins.
I mean, 10 million is buying you a guy who last year averaged 26 yds a game. What more could you ask for?
Why would they be paying Michael Thomas?
I ask for Bill to trade himself.
Jimmy Graham?
Shit.
Stefon Diggs went for a first and change, Texans fans.
At least they got Randall Cobb
For Stefon Diggs:
1st rounder
5th rounder
6th rounder
2021 4th rounder
For DeAndre Hopkins:
David Johnson
2nd rounder
Whoops
Yea it's not a good look for Houston to compare those trades. The difference between pick #22 and pick #40 is a lot and Hopkins is better.
There was a lot of action on day 1. The Cowboys retain Cooper for big dough. I can't believe he's still only 25 years old. He's a good player to have on your squad though $20 mil a year is a lot for any WR (he comes in 2nd behind Jones in average annual value). It'll be a challenge for Dallas to contend with superstar salaries at QB, WR and RB but I commend them for doing it. Keeping that core together is good for the sport.
Brady officially releases statement that he will not be returning to New England.
At least I know.
Ok, time to move on.
Brady
Newton
Rivers
Bridgewater
Dalton
Winston
Those appear to be the big QBs available at the moment. I imagine someone could get left out in the cold and not have a starting job.
Watson's probably available for a pair of second round picks too.
Rivers goes to the team that takes Tua as a bridge I think, unless that's Miami. Either way, he's a starter for a team grooming a QB. Newton, Bridgewater or Dalton to New England. The lean probably to Teddy. Newton will absolutely be a starter somewhere, can see the Colts taking him instead of Phil.
Bears release Leonard Floyd and sign Robert Quinn.
Good move. Floyd was very disappointing as a pass rusher
Bridgewater to the Panthers. Looks like Rivers to the Colts is a near certainty.
NE isn’t going to pay a lot of money for a QB this year. Whatever that QB costs, you’re still adding 13 million dead cap for Brady.
Fuck. I was hoping the Colts would get Bridgewater since they just traded away their first round pick this year.
I'm not too bummed by the Brady news. 6 titles, what more could you ask for? Kobe is dead, it's hard to be sad that Brady will play his age 43+ seasons elsewhere. I'll root for him wherever he goes. I would love to see him in a new Bucs jersey (assuming they're cool looking). Would be kinda cool for him to go there right as they re-brand and play for Arians and throw to Godwin and Evans. I'd be less enthused about the Chargers. I don't want him to go to a team with no fans in a city that doesn't care about the team.
I think the Pats roll with Stidham as the starter. Too bad the Jimmy G timing didn't work out but you can't be sad about that given Brady won another SB after that trade.
Let the post-Brady, pre-Belichick retirement era begin.
They are almost certainly signing Rivers
How long do you think that era will last?
I'm of the mind that Bill will coach a good long while before he retires.
In Titans news they lost Jack Conklin to free agency. That is really bad.
He's about to turn 68. 5 more years would mean he retires at 72. I think that's as good a guess as any. If he stays healthy into his 70s, I could see him coaching to 75 and beyond. His dedication and love for the game is there. He doesn't strike me as someone who wants to retire for retirement's sake.
Rivers signs a one-year deal with the Colts.
Fuck!
Rivers is a Titans killer.
Fro is officially on suicide watch. The coronavirus couldnt have come at a better time for new England sports.
I'm good bro. Very excited for the upcoming Bucs season.
Swapping baseball teams as well?
no swapping. I just have 2 teams now.
Still can’t get my head over this.
It defo beats one of my mad trades in our Ca$h Fantasy Football game @Fro @MMH @Beefy @Torn @Caito @Honey_Badger @BGMaverick @Morrison @Matthew @Bandit @Pablo Diablo
TB to TB
TB squared
This is the perfect time for the Bears to remedy their Trubisky draft mistake. Apparently everyone in Houston is available for nothing. Simply remind Bill O that one day he'll have to pay Watson more, offer him 2 2nd rounders, Adam Sheehan, and the rights to do the Super Fans. This whole thing gets done.
Even in a world where you decide you should move on from Hopkins, you have to get more back.
Just let O'Brien know a player didn't agree with his crossword puzzle suggestion and they can be had for an open bag of chips..
Thank god the whole thing is over now and Brady has retired.
Tom playing in the Super Bowl next year in Tampa would be the most electric possible outcome of this season
Tampa wins a SB in the next two years.
Or the Patriots do.
...who ya got?
The Patriots are more likely for sure
Yeah I think so too. TB is close but I feel like Bill could randomly win one with a nobody at qb before Tampa could get all the way there.
People and/or their careers go to Tampa to die, not to win championships. Brady will be as remembered in Tampa as Joe Montana was in Kansas City or Unitas in San Diego.
seems like a normal madden offseason
To be fairrrrr
Tampa has won a SB more recently than The Cowboys or 49ers.
Exactly
Bye bye locker room..
Michael Irvin: Bill O'Brien Compared DeAndre Hopkins, Aaron Hernandez in Meeting
"I said, 'Tell me what happened in Houston,' and he went into it. He told me, he said, 'Michael, it was a bit of a power struggle there' because Bill O'Brien thought, Coach O'Brien thought [Hopkins] had too much influence over the locker room. He called DeAndre Hopkins in a meeting to talk about this and, I kinda guess, hash it out. In that meeting, he started the meeting with telling DeAndre Hopkins this, that blew my mind when DeAndre told me this. He told DeAndre Hopkins, he said: 'Hey, the last time I had to have a meeting like this, it was with Aaron Hernandez.' I was like: 'What? He put in Aaron Hernandez in this meeting?' He said, 'Yes he did.' He said: 'Michael, that blew my mind that he would even bring that up. I've never been in any trouble. I don't know why would he equate me with Aaron Hernandez.'
"And from there, the meeting just deteriorated, you know. He got into talking about DeAndre Hopkins. DeAndre Hopkins has a few kids from different women, and he said, he told DeAndre he doesn't like that he has his 'baby mamas' around sometimes. And from that, I think the relationship just went bad, and thus, we got a trade of DeAndre Hopkins from Houston for basically, like I said earlier, a ham sandwich, all because of that relationship."
Jesus
Hmmm. So when I have a warehouse meeting next week, I SHOULDN’T compare the guy with three kids by three different women to a gang member convicted of murder?
Bet even if I did that I could still get more for him for a trade than the Texans got for Hopkins.
I'm changing from Vikings to Bears as I actually know some folk who follow them. So yeah go bears.AFC: KC Chiefs
NFC: Vikings
These are the teams I now follow
I'm sorry for your future pain.
Duron Harmon traded from Patriots to the Lions.
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Dont....... he must learn like all Bears fans eventually do.
1. You can’t support two teams
2. You can’t just switch teams
Really hopeful with all that’s going on, it doesn’t affect my Miami lads coming to London in October.
Of course they’ll got to London......
It isn’t Liverpool
They would actually be 100% safer if they came to Liverpool than London.
Foles to the Bears for a fourth rounder.
Chicago doing what they can to make moves on offense that actually won't improve the offense.
Hopefully his poor play last season was just because he was returning from an injury
I'm interested in what happens with Cam and Jameis. They're likely going to have to take one-year/prove it deals to hopefully bounce back but I'm very curious to see where they'll have to do it.
Who needs a QB currently or could possibly do with one? Bengals, Patriots, Jaguars, Redskins, Colts, Chargers?
Bengals: Drafting one
Patriots: Rolling with Stidham or getting one on the cheap
Jaguars: Minshew
Redskins: Doubtful they'll add one but they're easily mismanaged so it's possible
Colts: Maybe draft one late but they technically have two on the roster that are viable starters
Chargers: Probably looking cheap for a backup to Taylor. They could be a dark horse to trade up to a top 3 spot in the draft though.
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So Cam and Jameis are sitting out for a year?
They're likely having to sign cheap, one-year deals...potentially as a backup.
Did you see my previous posts? Basically I want to get into it next season and figured it would help to have a team to follow on each division. Support is a strong word but there you go.. Who knows, As I start watching more I may well get attached to another team I dunno.1. You can’t support two teams
2. You can’t just switch teams
Seahawks1. You can’t support two teams
2. You can’t just switch teams
PG I’d welcome you as a Colts fan.
Never. Was obvious a wind up to Torn and Beefy
You will when you start watching more and get into it, you’ll find that one team you click with.
How you feeling about the Rivers move?
But then you have to STICK with that team so that we can all laugh at you because your team thought Ken Wisenhunt could coach...
The bears having a very bears off-season:
CHI essentially used multiple valuable draft picks to select a two-year placeholder for Nick Foles.
The bears signed Jimmy Graham for $8m/year average, despite spending a 2nd round pick on the position and signing a pricey free agent ($32/4 years). They must have been enamored with the four games they played against him as a Packer, where he totaled a massive *checks notes* 9 catches for 70 receiving yards.
In an effort to emphasize their stance (and draft evaluations) on early draft picks, they also cut former 1st round draft pick Leonard Floyd.
Why do you say they used multiple picks on Foles? I thought it was just one 4th round comp pick. I don’t hate the deal I mean the 4th rounder is essentially nothing and you don’t have to commit to him for more than 1 year. If it doesn’t work out you move on. It sucks that Mitch is being benched and is a bust but if he’s not the guy then the Foles move is decent.
I had hoped they’d go after Bridgewater instead of Rivers. I don’t hate the deal but I don’t love it either. I thought they’d go QB in the first round this year but they traded that pick away. Rivers should be serviceable for one season if they have their eye on a QB in next year’s draft. I don’t think they’ll make a deep playoff run but there’s a good chance he can get them to playoffs, especially in that division.
Oh I mean the picks used to trade up one spot to take Trubisky when all he ended up being was a two year placeholder for Foles
Gotcha, yea I misread what you wrote. The Trubisky trade/pick was obviously a colossal disaster.
As a Titans fan, I hate it. I feel like we're 0-32 against him.
But yeah should be a good stop gap.
Todd Gurley will be cut by the Rams.
With a 20M+ dead cap number for 2020..
Seems like he might be Atlanta-bound but I wouldn't count Tampa out.With a 20M+ dead cap number for 2020..
With Jared Goff's cap number at 36M..
With Aaron Donald's number at 25M..
And Brandin Cooks' at 16.8M..
My word..
Only one of them is remotely close to worth it. Maybe two, but that's really stretching it. The third is nowhere close and that's a problem when it's the QB.
Rams releasing Clay Matthews and Todd Gurley?? Weird.
Sean Payton announced he tested positive for coronavirus.
They can spread it out over 2 yearsWith a 20M+ dead cap number for 2020..
Gurley headed to Atlanta.
NFC south could be very interesting next season
Tom Brady's contract details with Tampa, sources tell ESPN: 2 years, $50 million deal, all guaranteed, that also includes another $9 million in incentives - $4.5 million in incentives per year. The contract also prohibits tags and trades.
A good deal for a 43 year old. I'll be curious to see what those incentives are. I believe Tom can contend for All Pro this year with being able to throw to Evans/Godwin, granted there is a lot of team building left to do this offseason and I don't know much about their current O-line or defense.
Supposedly, Patriots didn’t even offer a contract to Brady.
If true, not sure what to think about that. It isn’t great optics, even if business wise, keeping Brady might’ve been less than ideal.
O-Line is no worse than average. Defense got much better as the season went along, very good at stopping the run, and was often put in very tough situations due to the fact they had to rush back onto the field due to turnovers.
I think it'll be kind of close, but I think Tampa ends up with a better record than New England this year not that it matters.
The incentives are tied to finishing in the top 5 of various passing categories (passer rating, TDs, yards, completion percentage, yards/attempt), then separately to playing time and playoff success.
It was likely going to be insulting either way, because I imagine the contract they would offer was well below what he was hoping he'd get because Belichick gives zero fucks.
Seems like they're willing to give Stidham the keys to the car for the season.
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Crazy offensive talent in that division. Brady and Brees first ballot Hall of Famers, Ryan and Newton (while he's still there, he'll surely be the starter) former MVP's. Gurley, Kamara and McCaffrey all top 10 RB's of the last half decade (possibly all top 5?), Julio Jones, Mike Evans and Michael Thomas at receiver. Gonna be some banging games.
Forgot Panthers signed Teddy.
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Melvin Gordon to Denver on a 2-year deal for $16 million (13.5 guaranteed). I'm glad that holdout worked out so well for him...
Obviously the franchise and Bill were 100% moving on from him, no big deal on that part.
No, and I don't disagree with not bringing Brady back, but he is considered by many to be the greatest QB ever and was a part of the team for nearly 20 years. It's bad optics if you dont at least put something out there, even if you know he wont take it.
I'm honesty not sure what Pats fans think is worse, no offer, or an insulting one that you know he'll turn down anyways.
The draft is going to be weird this year if it can’t be done in person.
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