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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Lucky for me I never learned how to count.
    Perhaps The Count could help you out here:


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    Debatable.

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    And this is the part of the discussion thread where I post the movie clip that best relates to Wilfred's


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    Who's Wilfred?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangers View Post
    Who's Wilfred?
    Poster that originally came up with this tournament concept 14 years ago.

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    Haha what - literally never seen this before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Iowa boys.

    Best of luck ND
    haha, first thing I thought of when I saw our names. At least we have the blizzard coming up today to prep for the 27th lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangers View Post
    Haha what - literally never seen this before.
    Yeah. He initially started in Board Games then got moved up here to get more attention.

    The first one up here was controversial to say the least! It was poll voting and someone didn’t take well to losing then hacked Rosk’s MSN account because he laughed at him. I wish I was making that up.

    Much better now though lol

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    I don't take well to losing, but I don't know how to hack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I don't take well to losing, but I don't know how to hack.
    In Wilfred's history, we've seen lots of alternatives to hacking. There's been sock accounts, quid pro quo voting, people getting their fiends to vote after the deadline and then trying to get it to count, etc. And many, many meltdowns.


    Don't limit yourself! You have options!

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    Dirty rotten scoundrels!

    Anyone fancy a bit of cash?

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    It's nice that the trophy comes with free 40 characters. I'm hoping for Mario, Freddy Krueger, Dumbledore, Lara Croft, Jesus Christ, and Pikachu as some of the characters I get when I win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    In Wilfred's history, we've seen lots of alternatives to hacking. There's been sock accounts, quid pro quo voting, people getting their fiends to vote after the deadline and then trying to get it to count, etc. And many, many meltdowns.


    Don't limit yourself! You have options!
    Also trying to get votes against them discounted *coughPMBRcough* Rather nasty cough I have!

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    The only "hack" in this tournament is me!


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    If you believe in your argument and shout loud enough, you’re always in with a shot.

    Research also helps. Even if you’re not a fan today, if you look stuff up and are prepared, you have a chance.

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    I've been getting my head in the right place for topic creation. Tonight I asked my waitress if questions about worst ring attire were too played out. Judging by her silent reaction, which was obviously contemplation, there are more than enough options for consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Also trying to get votes against them discounted *coughPMBRcough* Rather nasty cough I have!

    Your cough might have extended through several of those examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I've been getting my head in the right place for topic creation. Tonight I asked my waitress if questions about worst ring attire were too played out. Judging by her silent reaction, which was obviously contemplation, there are more than enough options for consideration.
    Yeah I’m gonna spend the weekend choosing topics. Been hectic but will have all weekend to think over them.

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    Wilfred’s ties are kicking off today, Romford Pele vs 3puppies and Nash Diesel vs kdestiny are the first up.

    I’m working til 8pm GMT today so will work on the topics and post them at some time after that when I get home unless @Mazer can write up a couple and post them earlier. If not I’ll do it.

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    Okay just away to post the first two ties shortly!

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    Why are you working so late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Why are you working so late.
    We’re on a rota where everyone has to work a 12pm til 8pm week once every five weeks. It’s really a hit or miss shift whether it’s busy or not, time goes quicker if it’s busier. Paid time and a quarter after 6pm so it’s not bad.

    Anyway there’s the first two ties up. @Mazer if you want to work on the two other first round ties due up tomorrow, then please feel free as I’ll be working late again.

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    I'm interested to hear the sides!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinner View Post
    I'm interested to hear the sides!
    Moved your post into this thread as the debate threads are strictly for the debates until they are closed. Discussion can be done here.

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    Sounds good. Tomorrow is good for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Sounds good. Tomorrow is good for me


    Next two are yours amigo.

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    Done mine. Felt a bit odd after what happened on Raw last night, but I basically ignored what happened there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Done mine. Felt a bit odd after what happened on Raw last night, but I basically ignored what happened there!
    Yeah that's fine. The tie was posted before Raw took place last night so we're just pretending that Raw hasn't happened yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    We’re on a rota where everyone has to work a 12pm til 8pm week once every five weeks. It’s really a hit or miss shift whether it’s busy or not, time goes quicker if it’s busier. Paid time and a quarter after 6pm so it’s not bad.

    Anyway there’s the first two ties up. @Mazer if you want to work on the two other first round ties due up tomorrow, then please feel free as I’ll be working late again.
    Well 12 - 8 isn't so bad. I thought you were working like 8-8 or some bullshit. I was about to murder your boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Well 12 - 8 isn't so bad. I thought you were working like 8-8 or some bullshit. I was about to murder your boss.
    Oh god no! I do sometimes help out with overtime due to staff shortages but never a 12 hour shift lol.

    Anyway edited the Rom/3pups topic to say that we’re going on the assumption the Raw angle hasn’t happened yet as the tie went up before Raw. :yes!

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    First post is up

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    Nicely done

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    Really good job Nash and kdes, finished nice and quick too! Voting is now open in that tie, will leave it open for 3 days.

    Romford/3puppies still have a couple of days so plenty time to get the other posts in.

    Kev/Peter Griffin and mth/Mikey_Jones are scheduled for today but I'll let Mazer put those ones up.
    Last edited by Badger; January 28th, 2020 at 3:28 PM.

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    Great question for Kev/PG.

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    I'm off work today and tomorrow so I can dive in on my debate. Thursday will be tougher to get to it as I work a later shift but I'll do the best I can to not no show if it's not wrapped up before then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Great question for Kev/PG.
    @Kev @Peter Griffin just tagging them to make them aware.

    I agree, great question.

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    Got to say not a fan of the Nash/Dest question, reasons I my vote.

    Good work from both though.

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    Tagging @Mikey_Jones just so he knows (no need to tag mth lol).

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    I swear to gawd if he takes my pick I will fuck shit up.

    Mainly because I've got no back up idea...

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    I'll get something up tomorrow Badger

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I swear to gawd if he takes my pick I will fuck shit up.

    Mainly because I've got no back up idea...
    There's always Dexter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    I'll get something up tomorrow Badger
    It's Kev to go first so you got plenty time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    There's always Dexter...
    I had legit considered trying to argue Dexter for my answer to any debate i was given. Holy shit, imagine trying to argue him as NXT's most valuable player in 2019 when he only had one match that he lost...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I had legit considered trying to argue Dexter for my answer to any debate i was given. Holy shit, imagine trying to argue him as NXT's most valuable player in 2019 when he only had one match that he lost...
    Hell of a body of work to use as your template haha.

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    I'm not sure Everest is more of an uphill battle...

    Part of me's kind of like, "Fuck it, try it..." i won't win but it might be fun.

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    I argued the Spirit Squad once and won. That was a happy time.

    Then Vice argued Uncle Phil in probably the greatest debate performance ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I argued the Spirit Squad once and won. That was a happy time.

    Then Vice argued Uncle Phil in probably the greatest debate performance ever.
    I don't remember shit that I myself even post let alone someone else. But Vice arguing for Uncle Phil was by far the greatest pick ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I don't remember shit that I myself even post let alone someone else. But Vice arguing for Uncle Phil was by far the greatest pick ever.
    The second final where Hacksaw posted entirely in HHH character about his epicness was a belter too!

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    I won't lie, I feel like Dexter Lumis has a higher ceiling as a main roster guy than Velveteen Dream.

    And yeah, that's after only seeing one match.

    But I feel like Vince McMahon would have a better and easier time understanding the Dexter Lumis character than he would something as esoteric as The Dream.

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    I'll be getting mine up in about 8 hours time, sorry for the delay

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    Mrs Jones is in for a good time then

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    All done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    All done.


    Good man. Will start voting when 3puppies gets his last post up.

    I hope @Kev is able to make it as his question with PG looks like a good one.

    Also don't forget to vote in Nash/kdestiny. As well as the outsiders reading and voting, fellow participants can also vote in each other's ties for those that don't know.

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    So, not that I'm impatient or anything, but when do I get to argue?

    ... I mean debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    So, not that I'm impatient or anything, but when do I get to argue?

    ... I mean debate.
    In the meantime go vote for either myself or my man KD!! We had a good debate about Seth Rollins' future at Mania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    So, not that I'm impatient or anything, but when do I get to argue?

    ...I mean debate?
    Here’s the schedule. You’re up Monday next week.

    Romford Pele vs 3puppies - Monday 27th-Thursday 30th January
    Nash Diesel vs kdestiny - Monday 27th-Thursday 30th January
    Peter Griffin vs Kev- Tuesday 28th-Friday 31st January
    mth vs Mikey_Jones - Tuesday 28th-Friday 31st January
    Spudz Mackenzie vs The Diamond - Monday 3rd-Thursday 6th February
    Gangers vs BBF- Monday 3rd-Thursday 6th February
    Huss Huss Huss vs Donald - Tuesday 4th-Friday 7th February
    Rusty Shackleford vs Defrost - Tuesday 4th-Friday 7th February

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    Sorry lads, will try to get something up later today. Just in meetings for the next couple of hours.

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    There you go gents.

    Apologies to PG, I know someone said I was a vet at this thing, but I don't think I've ever progressed beyond the first round. Hopefully it's enough meat to sink your teeth into.

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    Sorry, there's no chance I can get a good post up in the time frame so I'm going to have to withdraw. Really disappointed as I loved doing it last time, it just hasn't worked out with my work commitments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I swear to gawd if he takes my pick I will fuck shit up.

    Mainly because I've got no back up idea...
    I would have picked Rhea Ripley!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_Jones View Post
    Sorry, there's no chance I can get a good post up in the time frame so I'm going to have to withdraw. Really disappointed as I loved doing it last time, it just hasn't worked out with my work commitments.

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    mth probably would’ve picked the same unless he was trying a Hail Mary argument for Dexter!

    Thanks for trying to compete and being up front that you couldn’t. I think due to the time left and plus mth said he was going to struggle on Thursday anyway, he advances by forfeit. Shit that it has to happen this way but will have to keep this moving.

    On the plus side, we’re guaranteed a new champion!

    Romford/3puppies is also now up for voting!
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    I'll have something up around lunch, maybe half one

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    Badger, I don't know if you have any more planned, but I think the questions about booking something immediately (ie up to this year's Wrestlemania, coming out of the Rumble) are a bit of a mistake. It's allowing people to use current storylines to make their arguments more solid, essentially arguing that it wouldn't make sense to do anything else because it would involve abandoning a feud midway through which hardly seems in the spirit. Don't know if I'm alone in thinking that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangers View Post
    Badger, I don't know if you have any more planned, but I think the questions about booking something immediately (ie up to this year's Wrestlemania, coming out of the Rumble) are a bit of a mistake. It's allowing people to use current storylines to make their arguments more solid, essentially arguing that it wouldn't make sense to do anything else because it would involve abandoning a feud midway through which hardly seems in the spirit. Don't know if I'm alone in thinking that.
    Noted.

    Will change it up for next week’s questions. Will make them a bit more open and broader.

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    Maybe something like "Who's the sexiest person on the roster?"

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    Everyone has to argue which of the WWE women would be the best lay.

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    I must apologize as I hadn't come back to this thread before I made my post, and I hadn't seen the part about we were supposed to ignore RAW before making our arguments. I won't say anymore until after the votes are in, but if I am disqualified then so be it. Either way, good job @Romford Pele

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    I don't think you should be disqualified or anything chief, it's a pretty natural thing to do. I think it's just the question creates a bit of a lopsided playing field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    I must apologize as I hadn't come back to this thread before I made my post, and I hadn't seen the part about we were supposed to ignore RAW before making our arguments. I won't say anymore until after the votes are in, but if I am disqualified then so be it. Either way, good job @Romford Pele
    Don't worry, you're not disqualified. It's a minor error and I don't think it has really taken away much from your debate.

    When I put the question up, I wasn't banking on them doing a big Edge/Orton injury angle that very night on Raw which has screwed things up a bit. Should've anticipiated they'd do something I guess.

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    Two master debaters book their fantasy WWE vs. AEW card and the winner is the one who convinces the most people their's is the best one.

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    Braun Strowman vs the whole AEW roster in a gauntlet match, with Strowman winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Braun Strowman vs the whole AEW roster in a gauntlet match, with Strowman winning.
    You're almost there.

    Strowman beats everybody on the roster, until Orange Cassidy comes out, hits Braun with those little shin kicks, and pins him dead in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_Jones View Post
    Sorry, there's no chance I can get a good post up in the time frame so I'm going to have to withdraw. Really disappointed as I loved doing it last time, it just hasn't worked out with my work commitments.

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    I would have picked Rhea Ripley!
    Sorry to hear it, this is not how I'd want things to go obviously. I was kind of hooped myself at this point as I had Tues/Wedds off and plenty of time to write stuff but have to work today/tomorrow and might not have been able to put anything together, so you'd probably have won by default if that were the case.
    And yeah, Rhea Ripley was totally my pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Everyone has to argue which of the WWE women would be the best lay.
    Why only women?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    Why only women?
    I assumed we were all straight men?

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    Not the case Spudz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    I assumed we were all straight men?
    Well, you know what happens when you assume: you might be wrong.

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    Maybe someone should make an all-inclusive thread about who the sexiest person on the roster is?

    Meanwhile please vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Maybe someone should make an all-inclusive thread about who the sexiest person on the roster is?
    We had one of those a while ago. It was titled "Otis"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    I assumed we were all straight men?
    Definitely not the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    I must apologize as I hadn't come back to this thread before I made my post, and I hadn't seen the part about we were supposed to ignore RAW before making our arguments. I won't say anymore until after the votes are in, but if I am disqualified then so be it. Either way, good job @Romford Pele
    Don't worry man, all good

    You did a great job, enjoyed the debate.

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    Peter/Kev is now up for voting so that's the first half of the first round debating completed. Despite Mikey having to pull out, there's still been some solid work. Good job everyone!

    Waiting on two judge votes for Nash/kdestiny then after that I'll end it but I've been told I should get those by the weekend.

    Romford/3puppies needs a lot more votes!

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    I will vote later my brain needs a rest after my debate

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    Okay we might need a few reserves for next week. Spudz is serving a ban and he’s due on Monday. Might be okay as it’s just three days, but just in case if anyone wants to sign up as a reserve let us know.

    Also not convinced Huss Huss Huss Donald’s opponent will show up as he’s not posted since signing up and also not seen BBF in a while. I might take one of the spots to cover it if need be but if anyone can sign up by Monday/Tuesday as a back-up let us know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    You got my number on speed dial for situations like this, I have no issue going Faces of Foley in this bitch.
    Thanks. Whoever loses your tie I might offer a redemption.

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    Knowing Spudz he could probably bang that out on Monday pretty easily. HUSS.....I hope they come through but yeah probably a sophisticated bot lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    No matter the topic, I've already got my answer down.
    "Explain why Hulkamania should have ended in 1985"

    Braun Strowman

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    Braun Strowman

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    Nash/kdestiny is a closer vote than what the public vote, although Nash has the public vote it’s a split judge vote so far on Nash/kdestiny. It’s gonna come to virm who could potentially take this to a tie-breaker with another judge.

    The two of you are on the back-up list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Nash/kdestiny is a closer vote than what the public vote, although Nash has the public vote it’s a split judge vote so far on Nash/kdestiny. It’s gonna come to virm who could potentially take this to a tie-breaker with another judge.

    The two of you are on the back-up list.
    Either way someone from Iowa is winning the entire thing, and we might even have an all Iowa championship finale. @Donald if you want to go ahead and claim Iowa you can brother we have a lot of room in this state for people like you.

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    If I'm basing my USA geography, Iowa borders....Minnesota, and fuck man Minnesota gets cold so I don't think I'd like Iowa weather too much. Perhaps a bit warmer than Minnesota but still too damn cold. It gets cold here in North Carolina, don't get me wrong, but it's only for like two months of the year and it rarely snows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Okay we might need a few reserves for next week. Spudz is serving a ban ...
    Color me surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Color me surprised.
    Would you be interested in being a back-up participant or judge? If Nash/kdestiny is tied up, we might need someone to tie it up and you did a good job the last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Would you be interested in being a back-up participant or judge? If Nash/kdestiny is tied up, we might need someone to tie it up and you did a good job the last time.
    Maybe next tournament If it gets to be a super, super bind, we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Maybe next tournament If it gets to be a super, super bind, we'll see.
    Depending on how @virmicious votes, we may need you.

    Will wait and see.

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    Also other back-up runners up from this week’s ties are welcome to be reserve participants next week if needed.

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