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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    On it. Gave it a read today. Thinking it over but will get my vote in soon.
    Actually not only did you kill Leo, but you’re literally the only person to Mafia kill me so you have some more making up to do! Every other death has been either lynch or town kill.

    Joking of course, send your vote whenever you’re ready.
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    Decent amount of public votes in the final so far, but I still have nothing from the judges. Rather than tag/chase them again though, if it stays this way by Monday regardless of whether they find the time to vote or not then we'll go on the public vote to decide the winner.

    However as far as the 3rd place play-off goes, @Donald has not yet posted today. I've given him plenty times but he needs to post again by Monday at the absolutely latest or I'm giving it to kdestiny. I know there's been complications in both ties and given extensions as much as I could due to the circumstances but we need to get on now.

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    As much as I'd be delighted if the voting ceased right now, it would be cool to get the judges verdicts for completion and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford View Post
    As much as I'd be delighted if the voting ceased right now, it would be cool to get the judges verdicts for completion and all that.
    They still have some time til Monday to do so, but I'm not waiting past that for the sake of completion. Deadlines are there for a reason, if we just started extending them again and again then what's the point of even setting them in the first place? I made a couple of exceptions and granted because of circumstances but really don't like doing that too much,

    I kinda want to get this wrapped up soonish and it really shoukd've been by now if it weren't for our pal Covid.

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    Yeah, agree you shouldn't wait. You need closure son!

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    Kinda feels like I'm Cena and this is going to either wind up like Extreme Rules v Lesnar or Summerslam v Lesnar lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Kinda feels like I'm Cena and this is going to either wind up like Extreme Rules v Lesnar or Summerslam v Lesnar lol


    Although Cena did win Extreme Rules!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post


    Although Cena did win Extreme Rules!
    That's what I'm saying. He got his ass kicked the entire match then out of nowhere he pulled it off at the end. Unlike Summerslam where he got his ass beat 99.9% of the match and lost lol.

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    Will get a vote in before Monday. Been reading it back and been going back and forth on who to vote for. Both did a excellent job.

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    Thanks Donald.

    Like with the final voting, I'll leave it til Monday at the latest for you and kdestiny to get final posts in.

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    Sorry if I took so long. Work's been kinda busy, especially working from home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Sorry if I took so long. Work's been kinda busy, especially working from home.
    I'm finding it to be a weird challenge working from home. It feels like I'm busier than normal which couldn't be further from the truth from a numbers perspective. But just not being in the office where I've been for 5 years....

    Funny thing is, the first 6 years I worked for my company it was out of a house. There were 2 other people there with me so that was nice but it was also under different circumstances. I feel like being forced into a situation, even working from home, that disrupts the daily routine is instrumental in driving 1st world people into madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I'm finding it to be a weird challenge working from home. It feels like I'm busier than normal which couldn't be further from the truth from a numbers perspective. But just not being in the office where I've been for 5 years....

    Funny thing is, the first 6 years I worked for my company it was out of a house. There were 2 other people there with me so that was nice but it was also under different circumstances. I feel like being forced into a situation, even working from home, that disrupts the daily routine is instrumental in driving 1st world people into madness.
    I miss the office environment, but I am saving money on gas, and for some reason the days are flying by working from home.

    I'm also sure my blood pressure level has gone down because I'm not yelling at people driving like idiots everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I miss the office environment, but I am saving money on gas, and for some reason the days are flying by working from home.

    I'm also sure my blood pressure level has gone down because I'm not yelling at people driving like idiots everyday.
    I'm not looking forward to the prospect of working from home when I eventually return to work. I don't drive or have a car so woukdn't be saving money. Sure the office environment in customer service could be stressful but at least there were things there to keep me focused. Checking availability on the call board before taking calls (this tells us how many advisors are available to take calls and if calls are queuing). Also there are people around to ask if I need help. Thirdly, I miss the general office cameraderie. I would have none of that working from home. My home is my haven from the world of work too so I feel it would take some time to adjust doing all that with a laptop and a mobile from home like my colleagues are doing now.

    PS your turn. Take this home baby!

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    Its a very weird dynamic right now. I actually prefer working at the office. I have a good setup here. I can handle some things face to face, etc.

    I work at a regional headquarters. Usually we have about 110 or so people in this building. Its 25 now. Still a trip to look at the cube city and see nobody out there.

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    I miss the people in the office. Our company only has 15 people and the current climate has hit us hard. We've had to put 4 on furlough and scramble to try and find new business. Turnover is down a third year on year. We'll get there I'm sure but it's pretty stressful. And doing a full day at home with the kids is a pipedream.

    We have privileged wee life though so I'm not complaining, could be a lot worse off

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    Preparing a post in another thread, and then I'll be getting right to this

    Sorry, y'all. Would have done it yesterday, but it was my birthday and I was in full lazy mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Preparing a post in another thread, and then I'll be getting right to this

    Sorry, y'all. Would have done it yesterday, but it was my birthday and I was in full lazy mode.
    Thanks I got it!

    Jarrod, virm plus anyone else that wants to vote have until Monday reaches it conclusion (basically clock strikes midnight signalling Tuesday GMT) to get the votes in. Donald has until then to get his last post in too then voting for that commences.

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    Just @virmicious to go now and will post full Final results!

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    Your new champion is Rusty Shackleford! Congratulations dude, you truly deserve it, that is probably the best debut run we have ever had. I truly hope this inspires you to pist more!

    Very unlucky Nash, but you also had a great run and I believe this is the furthest you have ever gotten. If you had gotten first choice in the final then the result may have been different. You shoukd both be very proud.

    I know we've still got the 3rd place play off which should be settled then voted on over the next couple of days, but wanted to say thank you to everyone for making this work even if we had minor glitches and a global pandemic to contend with! Thank you to all who signed up and competed, the standard was really high this year. Thank you to the judges Psycho, virm and Jarrod for their valuable input. Finally thank you to Mazer for his assistance and the great topics he came up with. Oh and thanks to all those who voted in the public votes too!

    Been a blast!
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    Ah, well this is just lovely. Thanks a lot guys. I'll reply properly later but thanks for having me.

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    Congrats, Rusty.

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    Congrats Rusty. Welcome to The 2nd Place Club with me Nash. It's where all the cool kids hang out.

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    Good job both guys. Helluva run by both.

    This one was fun.

    Rusty, you're a helluva poster. I hope you post here more often. And sign up for the tag team tourney when we do it this summer.

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    Rusty, Nash and anyone else who doesn't play should consider playing the PPV Prediction contest too! Starting a new one soon, so no better time to get involved and go for another Forum Title.

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    Rusty, please send me your address, so that you can be sent your trophy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Rusty, please send me your address, so that you can be sent your trophy
    Wait you were actually serious about that?

    Cool, I’ll split the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazeralwayswins, Nosh Diesel, virmiliciaus; or something like that
    Wait you were actually serious about that?

    Cool, I’ll split the cost.

    I have never been more serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I have never been more serious
    I quite like Nosh Diesel or Mash Diesel! Let's just hope if you go that route that unlike when I had my name changed similar to Seanny One Ball's that they don't crack with me being a rip-off lol.

    Anyway just about to open the voting for Donald/kdestiny for the Wilfred's blonde medal. Judges and everyone else, please give this your full attention too like the other ties.

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    Sorry you lost the final cuz, damn that Rusty fella!

    Good to see you're stll voting though.

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    Sorry for being a long time between posts in my debate. Will do better if there's a next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Sorry for being a long time between posts in my debate. Will do better if there's a next time.
    No apologies necessary, COVID had an effect on everything.

    I'm sure the judges may already be aware by now but send your "Nosh Diesel" not "Badger" lol. Also Nash I lost a bet with Mazer in the predictiins thread which is why I'm dressed like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosh Diesel View Post
    No apologies necessary, COVID had an effect on everything.

    I'm sure the judges may already be aware by now but send your "Nosh Diesel" not "Badger" lol. Also Nash I lost a bet with Mazer in the predictiins thread which is why I'm dressed like you.
    I look forward to the first time you guys discuss something, and people try to track the discussion. People reading it will look like Titus O'neill last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I look forward to the first time you guys discuss something, and people try to track the discussion. People reading it will look like Titus O'neill last night.
    I could copy everything he says like I did Seanny.

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    Would be a mindtrip if everyone put ND's avatar as theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Would be a mindtrip if everyone put ND's avatar as theirs.
    I’ve already mindfucked a few people on here before telling the truth. I haven’t had a reaction from the man himself yet.

    Mazer may think this is a punishment, but actually this is potential for great comedy. If it was non-Rajah related then I might struggle.

    Still he is on the list![/Jericho]

    I’ll fish around for public votes too if this dries up.

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    To really confuse people, you should have renamed yourself Nash Diesel, with the final l being a capital i.

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    Kid Kash Diesel

    Lash LeDiesel

    Nash Dexter (one for mth)

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    i have an even better plan if I can entice a 3rd person to join in the bet for this year.

    Mth? Donald? You in?

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    All in

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    Okay still no further votes yet other than the two public votes.

    If it stays this way by Tuesday midnight GMT then 3rd place will go to Donald.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    All in
    Nice

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    I'll get my vote in over the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    I'll get my vote in over the weekend.


    If after judge voting this is still a tie, I or Mazer will break it.

    Also I’ll send out a 24 hour deadline reminder when it’s 24 hours to go if the other judges have not voted.

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    I'll vote later today.

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    Go mffski.

    I’ll send out a couple of feelers over the weekend too for the public as really this shouldn’t end on a 2-0 public vote as both guys deserve better.

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    .retteb evresed syug htob sa etov cilbup 0-2 a no dne t'ndluohs siht yllaer sa cilbup eht rof oot dnekeew eht revo sreleef fo elpuoc a tuo dnes ll'I

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    I agree

    - - - Updated - - -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    .retteb evresed syug htob sa etov cilbup 0-2 a no dne t'ndluohs siht yllaer sa cilbup eht rof oot dnekeew eht revo sreleef fo elpuoc a tuo dnes ll'I

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    lol (no backwards effort required for that!)

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    Also thank you for taking this in better humour unlike the last person whose name I was changed similar to then decided to leave the forums forever.

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    I'll have my vote in by Sunday. Sorry it hasn't been sooner. Been finishing up school assignments, and then...well...the Final Fantasy VII Remake. All I can really say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I'll have my vote in by Sunday. Sorry it hasn't been sooner. Been finishing up school assignments, and then...well...the Final Fantasy VII Remake. All I can really say.
    I’m playing it wearing my FFVII shirt on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Anal fantasy
    Yellow card for badmouthing Final Fantasy. One more and kdestiny wins by DQ grrr!

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    Was final fantasy 2 subtitled "just kidding, the last game wasn't really a final fantasy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Was final fantasy 2 subtitled "just kidding, the last game wasn't really a final fantasy"
    Conversely, the “Never Ending Story” is also a falsehood as it ends. Lionel Hutz sued them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Was final fantasy 2 subtitled "just kidding, the last game wasn't really a final fantasy"
    I know you're just joking, but actually, the reason for the title is that Square(the company that made the game) was going out of business, and this was their last ditch effort to pull out of the hole. They didn't think it'd work, but it ended up being a hit and saving the company.

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    Indeed, although it is now Square Enid now Donald as funnily enough later Square did start losing money and merged with the company called Enix to become what is now known as Square Enix though Enix are technically the surviving company.

    Also a little over 35 hours left for voting. I have one from Judge Jarrod now to add to the score. Judges could make all the difference here but then so could more public votes.

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    I'll get mine in today BADGER

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    Bad mth not voting when he said he would. Lemme try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    Bad mth not voting when he said he would. Lemme try again.
    Perma ban the jerk

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    Maybe Melly should do but then he’d probably enjoy that.

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    Last call for judge and public voting, closes at midnight tonight in my neck of the woods which is just over 14 hours from now.

    If there is a tie then we enter overtime where I will read and decide the winner.

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    Okay posted in the thread but deadline has passed and no further votes. It's 2-2 in votes including Jarrod's.

    I've decided if anyone else votes next then that's the winner, open to everyone. If no further votes overnight then I'll do it tomorrow.

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    I'll pay pal you $5 if you declare me winner right now

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    Put a 0 behind that 5 and I might think about it.

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    So $05 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosh Diesel View Post
    Okay posted in the thread but deadline has passed and no further votes. It's 2-2 in votes including Jarrod's.

    I've decided if anyone else votes next then that's the winner, open to everyone. If no further votes overnight then I'll do it tomorrow.
    Ha, nothing like making you drag it out another day, right?

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    I was pretty tied up with BMW mafia last week, but read through again and voted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    So $05 ?
    5 in front, 0 behind. $50!

    But it matters not as kdestiny gets the bronze medal, sorry homey!

    I might make up a wee medal presentation later today.

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    WILFRED’S CLOSING CEREMONY

    Welcome to the Wilfred’s Closing Ceremony live from the Rajah Performance Centre which I’ve just come up with today as I have too much time on my hands! Not a big crowd today due to Covid but rest assured they are going mild!

    *intro music*



    We’ll get to the medals shortly but first of all @Donald who only just missed out on the medals is going to get a 4th place prize. This arguably is the best prize of all. It’s a grooming/bodybuilding kit.





    Now he can grow and groom a beard like Braun plus also work out so like Nese he has 8 reasons to look good like Nese!

    Time for the medals.

    3rd place and bronze medal goes to @kdestiny



    2nd place and silver medal goes to my cousin @Nash Diesel. No nepotism here otherwise he would have won the whole thing.



    1st place and the gold medal along with his beautiful trophy goes to @Rusty Shackleford. Unlike his name, gold does not rust!



    Oh and they all get this lovely bouquet of flowers each as well:



    Thus concludes the Wilfred’s closing ceremony! I said this earlier but once again thank you to all participants, judges and voters for contributing and making this all possible. Hope to see you all again next year!

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    that was beautiful




    Great job everyone







    And Nosh, great job running this. Good questions, well set-up, and your work always making sure votes got in kept it going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    that was beautiful




    Great job everyone







    And Nosh, great job running this. Good questions, well set-up, and your work always making sure votes got in kept it going.
    You’re welcome! Couldn’t have done it without you and your questions were great too. Shame COVID ruined our target of getting this done in March.

    Might tinker with the format of the voting and maybe just do judges only next time. Will discuss nearer the time.

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    Might even do a player/coach role and challenge our current champion! Least the title stays in Scotland!

    Also hope to get @Mikey_Jones, @Psycho666Soldier and @BGMaverick back in the field next year too though would settle for judging input too next year if they prefer that.

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    Everyone did a wonderful job in this. Some stellar performances. Great work to Nash Diesel for knocking this tournament out of the park most of the way. Props to kdestiny for bouncing back from a first round elimination and making it to the bronze medal. Strong performance throughout, and despite me voting otherwise, you deserved the spot. Congrats to Donald for consistently getting stronger in these debates and slowly making his mark bigger and bigger.

    And of course, major kudos to Rusty Shackleford for having a stellar debut. You really came through and shook the foundation of this tournament. Many of your debates were the best of each round, and I feel you forced your opponents to debate on a higher level whether they were ready to or not. And that finale was a hell of a showdown between you and Nash.

    Much love to Nosh and Mazer for putting this together and holding it down. Next year, it might be time to dust off the debate podium. I still have a championship trophy that has eluded me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Everyone did a wonderful job in this. Some stellar performances. Great work to Nash Diesel for knocking this tournament out of the park most of the way. Props to kdestiny for bouncing back from a first round elimination and making it to the bronze medal. Strong performance throughout, and despite me voting otherwise, you deserved the spot. Congrats to Donald for consistently getting stronger in these debates and slowly making his mark bigger and bigger.

    And of course, major kudos to Rusty Shackleford for having a stellar debut. You really came through and shook the foundation of this tournament. Many of your debates were the best of each round, and I feel you forced your opponents to debate on a higher level whether they were ready to or not. And that finale was a hell of a showdown between you and Nash.

    Much love to Nosh and Mazer for putting this together and holding it down. Next year, it might be time to dust off the debate podium. I still have a championship trophy that has eluded me.
    It is surreal that you've not won one of these things yet.

    Been trying torack my brains of who all the champs have been. Remember the early yrars but somewhere down the middlenot sure who all the other champiins have been. Threads being pruned doesn't help. This is who I kmow so far:

    Lexi M
    Chris
    Mazer
    Matty C
    Me
    DDT (I think he's the only two-timer)
    RockOverBoston
    the_man_diva
    BGMaverick
    Mikey
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    OneManGang (I think not sure though)

    There's a coupke of names I'm missing.

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    I can't think of anyone else

    here's the list of tag team champs
    mazer and alicia
    mazer and badger



    We're definitely doing that one again this year

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    Let the other teams fight it out for the #1 contendership only for us to dash their dreams. :wpevilgrin:

    Also I miss Alicia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosh Diesel View Post
    Let the other teams fight it out for the #1 contendership only for us to dash their dreams. :wpevilgrin:

    Also I miss Alicia.

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    Thanks again for your kind words and all that. It was a real thrill taking part in something I've read year after year.

    I suppose I should confess that I've worked in Marketing for the best part of 15 years, so it's my day job to try and convince people of things I don't necessarily believe myself! That said, my knowledge of wrestling is insignificant compared to practically everyone on here so each match felt like an uphill battle.

    Not that anyone needs my advice or anything but my main tip for stuff like this is to debate the question rather than your choice. I'm not even sure if that makes sense, I've had a lot to drink tonight. My first round pick (Braun) for example I didn't really believe in, but it made for the cleanest argument.

    Anyway, cheers for all your votes, it was fun. Who wants to be my tag team partner then?

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    Make sure to get someone good.


    At this point in my debating career, its mostly about holding down young talent.


    RgenX 4 life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford View Post
    Thanks again for your kind words and all that. It was a real thrill taking part in something I've read year after year.

    I suppose I should confess that I've worked in Marketing for the best part of 15 years, so it's my day job to try and convince people of things I don't necessarily believe myself! That said, my knowledge of wrestling is insignificant compared to practically everyone on here so each match felt like an uphill battle.

    Not that anyone needs my advice or anything but my main tip for stuff like this is to debate the question rather than your choice. I'm not even sure if that makes sense, I've had a lot to drink tonight. My first round pick (Braun) for example I didn't really believe in, but it made for the cleanest argument.

    Anyway, cheers for all your votes, it was fun. Who wants to be my tag team partner then?
    I now see where you get it from and it makes perfect sense. Having textbook knowledge helps but is not really the key. The key or researching just enough and paying attention to the question to debate it is the answer. Your style reminds me of one of our earlier champions Chris. He very nearly smashed it in his debut but stormed it the second try.

    For my end I've worked in customer service for nearly 15 years and a lot of that is trying to defend the company's position and making them look good no matter what shit they've done. It helps.

    I would totally be your partner but already have one and we have titles to defend. Good luck in your search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Make sure to get someone good.


    At this point in my debating career, its mostly about holding down young talent.


    RgenX 4 life.
    Hardcore Holly, can't let dem rookies succeed!

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