Is there an interview about this? I'd like to read it.Originally Posted by Hero!
Is there an interview about this? I'd like to read it.
I will say that there is a possibility that she would've been given more time as some of the better talents moved up the ladder but the oversized roster of both companies is a huge negative. I'm glad WWE are cleaning house, there will be some people released that various fans will shake their first about, I do it all the time for at least 1-2 talents. I think if they didn't have 400 people in developmental, someone like Tay Conti wouldn't have slipped through the cracks and become so disinterested in what NXT was offering.
It's like in Rocky 3 where he trades in the high tech training for the old stomping grounds of Apollo Creed and look what happened.
By this time next year Tay Conti will be a front runner for being the first AEW ppv main evented by a woman.
I dont have one direct reference for this, it's come up on her twitter and in various portuguese & spanish interviews she's done. From what I gather, at the PC they just run the same drills over and over and not really teaching the funadmentals of match psychology and structure.
Looking ahead, AEW's women's roster is gonna be insane in another year or so.
This part I don't agree with at all because the proof is in the talent. The NXT system works, it's just bloated. Conti is a victim, not of the system but of timing.
Trust me, at first I thought Tay Conti was getting the super push in AEW as a way for AEW to try and make a nothing talent in NXT into a top tier player. But then when you see her matches and nobody can look at a Charlotte Flair or Bayley or Asuka and not say Tay Conti isn't on that same level now.
So, i agree that she's definitely a victim of being overlooked in the bloated system, but take a look over the history of NXT and look for people who were trained at the PC that have gone on to be great wrestlers. Charlotte and Sasha seem to be the top ones I can think of and they worked there during the Bill Demott and Dusty Rhodes days. I have no clue wtf is going on at the PC anymore...the trainers seems to not put as much work into the trainees and instead focus on the people who come in off the indies and need the final WWE polish.
My 4th grade teacher was Mrs. Conti. Can't remember her first name. Sure she's dead now.
Overlooked, absolutely, and also put in the ring way too soon before she even knew what kind of wrestler she was. Her BJJ was always mentioned, but they wanted her to be kind of that crazy chick that would yell in peoples' faces "ARE YOU CRAZY?!" and boy that was cringe. Her offense right off the bat was awkward and miles away from looking convincing... then she took some time away and worked on her body, then her overall look started to come together, her offense started to take shape, and she even started to show genuine personality not forced crazy junk. And being grouped with Caesar Baloni and that other BJJ dude didn't stick, but she was starting to show real potential.
WWE letting her go was the best thing to happen to her. She's clearly done her homework and will totally be a big name in a year or two.
I mean, even veterans like Sami Zayn benefited from being in NXT. I'll be honest, was never a fan of El Generico on his own. Loved the KO tag-team stuff against the Briscoes and if there were maybe people he was wrestling I really liked I would check it out in ROH or PWG. But I 100% love him as Sami Zayn.
We also can't forget that AEW isn't developmental. NXT is a glorified developmental system almost in the same vein as ECW or USWA. Obviously moreso ECW with the television exposure. Because there are definitely wrestlers who I think were better in NXT and nowhere else so far. The Revival is a great example. Love their matches but I loved them more in NXT than Raw/SD or AEW.
AEW: 1.104 million18-49: 0.37
over a mill two weeks in a row. Nice.
Shows it wasn't a fluke.
Who said it was a fluke? I think 99.9% of the fans knew that people were channel surfing and when NXT moved to Tuesdays AEW would see a bump in ratings.
I'm sure there are NXT fanboys trying to say so. Not necessarily on this forum, just in general.
Maybe. You posted saying it's not a fluke. Who said it was a fluke?
two million+ ratings two darby allin main events
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I'd rather watch The Circle on Netflix than play this circle game.
Better than The Inner Circle.
NXT probably has the same, if not more viewership. A lot of peple wait for it to show on Peacock.
that's a big assumption. people can do the same thing with Dynamite on the tnt app like I do.
NXT you can watch it live, Hulu, Peacock, plus the scandalous fans who post shit on Youtube and I'm sure there are other places.
Dynamite, eh no so much. You're probably the only person I've heard say they watch Dynamite on the TNT app.
I watch it live on the TNT app with my parents cable info because I don't have or need cable. With all these streaming services it seems like I'm close to paying for cable though. If I couldn't do that I'd just download it and watch it a couple hours after it aired, which I do sometimes also if I'm too busy to watch it live.
@PurePlayer how long does the episode take to show up on the TNT app? Next day?
Remember NXT, with the rookies? That was getting 2.5 ratings to begin with. 11 years later look how much things have changed. And that was on SyFy. Not sure but I would guess that's in less homes than TNT or USA Network.
That's rad news for them. Hopefully they keep it fluctuating around the 900k-1.1m range.
I think someone made it clear why these shows are breaking a million, especially in that key demographic of 18-49 year olds. I can't deny it either. I was so wrapped up in thinking that there wasn't a war when it fact there was. Now people want to watch the winners of the war.
Here's the thing. If NXT was so great, USA would have put soccer on Tuesdays. Who the fuck watches soccer? I'd rather watch curling. What are soccer ratings, 0.04? So obviously nobody gives a shit about soccer or they'd have the same ratings if not better regardless of the channel.
I know when WWE won the MNW war, they went from 8-9's to 11-12's because the WCW audience had to get their fix. DDP, Booker T, Sean O'Hare, Chavo Jr, Kronik, Hugh Morrus, they even had Kaz Hayashi in developmental for a day I think lol. He said naw, I'll hold out for CHIKARA.
so who does kenny drop the impact belt to..
there's no way he is losing it in a one on one match
Moose
Samoa Joe
Christian Cage or Samoa Joe. Then that person will put over Moose.
I am pretty sure you can watch it live and right when it's over as the very least.
For someone who watches it on the TNT app you'd think you would know a little more about it.
Hmmm.
CM Punk
All trolling aside I don't think he's going to drop it to anyone in a match. I have a strong feeling he's going to come out and Shane Douglas that shit on Dynamite this week. Then Impact will have a tournament with Moose going over.
Either that or they should put the belt on TK. WWE put the ECW strap on Vince so why not? We've seen worse. Was David Arquette ever booker of the year?
LOL whatever you say ND. How does that have an impact on when I watch it? I have to know the exact second it drops? I usually check out the show over the weekend if I don't watch it live.
So do you watch it live on the TNT app?
I watch it live on the TNT app. I'm still wondering how long it takes for the episode to show up on the app after it airs. I would bet next day.
I have to sign in through my friend's cable provider to use the TNT app but I never use it for that specific reason. He DVR's the shows and then we get together either that night or the next day. Or I'll just go on youtube because they literally post everything by segment as it's happening to their youtube channel.
when did i say I did?
You didn't specify how you watched Dynamite live so that's why I'm asking you. Not that hard to grasp.
But you did say you watched Dynamite on the TNT app, so I'm asking you, do you watch it live on the TNT app?
No.
One big negative to the TNT app is that you can't watch the full episodes unless you are signed in to a cable provider or pay for the app. It'll let you watch the first 5 minutes and that's it. But at least they give you that first 5 and usually AEW comes out the gate like Nitro used to with a CW-style match.
That's correct. I use my parent's cable log in for it.
I think I read a week or two ago that AEW was looking to start their own streaming service. Perhaps with their partnerships with Impact and New Japan, they'll have a lot of content.
GFW/Impact whatever the fact has one I think.
I don't think they'd be able to show Impact or NJPW without a decent deal in place. Especially NJPW because they have their own streaming service. Right now AEW are putting everything up on Youtube as it airs on TNT so they should just stick with that method for the time being.
yeah, IMPACT PLUS, New Japan World, Honor club all exist already, If AEW gets into streaming, why would they strike a deal with anyone else? These places already have their own things and most of them are really good too.
At this stage I guess you could put the B and C shows along with old ppvs and maybe some of the BTE. Content is key and I think everyone knows what people like out of the wrestling world.
I just looked it up, and Paramount network, former TNN, former SpikeTV, gets about 80 million households (back in 2018). Right now AXS which has Impact has 50 million. Since there is precedence for wrestling being on the former one, why not try to get on Paramount? It says they're trying for more scripted programming, but they used to do reality shows all the time. That's pretty much what wrestling is, a hybrid of the two. Impact needs more exposure, as does New Japan. I'd even toss in Ring of Honor. Too bad pretty much all the high output channels are gobbled up by either NBC Universal or Turner or Fox. I don't think Disney would touch wrestling. Actually, doesn't MeTV have a nationwide distribution at this point? Why not syndicate it? Hmm....
I wish they would have pinfalls for the Blood n Guts match. What's the difference between submission and surrender?
tap out or a verbal admission of quitting.
Who's to say they haven't tried?
The reality is that we wrestling fans think wrestling has this huge fanbase here and it doesn't. There isn't a desire to have wrestling on these channels.
I'm excited to see Yuji Nagata in the states. That should be a trip. Against Mox, too, so that should be sick.
Check out his WCW work, mainly his matches against Ultimo Dragon in WCW, if you haven't seen anything of his prior (in the states at least).
Mox is easily my favorite in AEW so I'm ready for this. If anyone can make Nagata look like he's in his prime, it's Moxley. Especially if we have some blood and glass in the mix. Idk if I've seen Nagata in a hardcore style match before.
How is Billy Gunn allowed to use Billy Gunn in AEW? Does he own the rights to the name?
Looks in fantastic shape for nearing 60.
Good question because he couldn't use the name in TNA so I wonder if maybe when he came back 5-6 years ago he was able to get the trademark.
When you're on that juice you're going to look sweet at 60.
Should've been William Pistol in the Impact Zone. Missed opportunity.
Will E Gatz
Bill Firearm
I definitely think if AEW does introduce the trios titles that the Gunns should be the first champs. I have a feeling it'd be Omega and the Bucks, but if not them definitely the Gunns.
Any truth to the rumor that TK is working on a deal with CMLL?
I would actually like the first Trios Champs to be Death Triangle
cmll just broke up w ROH, but that has to do with Rush starting his own Mexican promotion. AEW seems to very much be enjoying their relationship with Triple A.
he doesn’t. He uses the name “Billy” and just gets introduced as “Billy and Austin Gunn” to get around it. I think on the AEW website he’s even just listed as “Bill”
I know for a fact he's been called Billy Gunn on Dark and Dynamite but I think everytime it was done by Taz or JR. Kind of like when Heenan was always calling Meng "Haku". But that makes perfect sense if that's how they get around it, fucking genius actually.
I just checked and he's actually listed as Billy Gunn on their roster page now. Definitely used to just be Billy, though. WWE must've dropped the trademark recently.
Spoiler if need but did anyone feel let down that we haven't had any 69ing going on in a while?
They also have Mr. Brodie Lee and Awesome Kong on the roster page. I think they should have an alumni section, like WWE.
Is Awesome Kong a part of AEW?
Nice! That woouldn't be too big of a shock after WWE gave up their claims to Cody Rhodes and Chris Jericho recently.
What a show.
Punk is right, nobody better on the mic than Kingston. Seeing Kenny with all the gold (but no Mega title, weird) puts a stamp on the career this man has had. Kenny should start calling himself Kenny "Overeem" Omega.
We haven't seen a champion this decorated and skilled since Lance Storm. Who IMHO had he been given the WCW World title we would've been talking about WCW to this day or at least until 2002.
What I don't get though is having Orange Cassidy beat Penta. I think OC is fantastic, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around the lack of Pentagon in the main event.
All in all 9/10.
So, i believe there's an issue with showing the Mega Championship on TV. When Jeff Jarrett was Mega Champion years ago, he had to use a fake faceplate and call it the "Mexican championship"
btw, someone posted this on reddit i thought it was awesome:
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...ign-guild_.pdf
page 4.
orange cassidy is a freaking architecht
I wonder if we're going to get a jacket war between WWE and AEW. Pockets and Kyle O'Realllly rocking similar denim jackets and now the Young Bucks got the Smedium size Rollins jackets lol.
he was definitely introduced as Billy Gunn when he had his last dynamite singles match
no, you were
i wasn't on the show that week you liar
Matt Gunn everybody
You were on elevation, i saw it.
Well looks like the main event of Triplemania is Omega vs Andrade so that's how AAA gets their belt back. When Kenny eventually beats Akiyama for the KO-D title he'll drop it to either Takeshita or Endo. I have no clue who is winning the TNA title from him though.\
Also Covid fucking up the belt collector gimmick with him dropping the Mexican belt before he wins the Japanese one.
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Didn't Punk say a couple of months ago there was no one better on the mic than Pat McAfee? Or was he just referring to NXT in that case?
A couple of months ago Punk was looking to get back in with Vince.
AAA is being sued by AAA so there won't be a legal stream of the match by the way
?
Naw he did say that but I think he meant in the WWE. He said Kingston is the best in the business right now.
So basically AAA has a parent company called Antonio Pena Promotions. Kinda like how Titan Sports and the WWF worked. Lucha Libre AAA is the Mexican subsidiary and Lucha Libre FMV is the World Wide one that was created for Lucha Underground I think. At some point Antonio Pena Promotions sold all rights for AAA trademarks outside of Mexico to Lucha Libre FMV yet still kept doing business outside of Mexico. So Lucha Libre FMV is suing. It will probably end with a settlement where Antonio Pena Promotions buys everything back.
That's why you never see Omega with the AAA Title belt outside of AAA shows in Mexico.
Ohhhh ok I thought you meant to say AEW sued AAA or vice versa lol. I was like, what does AAA have to do with AEW Dynamite and what match was supposed to go down? My bad.
i expect blood and guts to draw massive numbers
It'll be record breaking for AEW. I actually expect it to get at least a 1.7 This feud has been going on for awhile, especially if you start it when MJF joined the Inner Circle. This isn't even the payoff. Look at nWo v. WCW at War Games. That was just the beginning of a 3-4 year long feud and it wonders for WCW.
The rest of the card is looking stellar. I've seen some of the matches announced for WrestleMania Backlash (WTF kind of name is that Vince??) and let's be honest.....TK and his booking team have surpassed Vince like we all knew he would. Everyone kept saying wait until Vince is gone, why? Just turn on AEW.
bryan danielson vs. darby allin. damn i need to stop myself from thinking about that possibility, can only end in heartbreak if he re-signs or they dont book it.
I’ve been thinking of Danielson vs Omega and peeper is hard now
But he’ll just cockblock and sign with wwe again and I can’t blame the guy. GET YOUR BAG, BRYAN.
But he wants to work with other companies. Does MLW count?
Really excited for this Blood n Guts match.
mlw is a great company but they couldn’t afford MJF, much less Bryan Danielson.
i've been underwhelmed by some of moxley's promos in AEW but that promo on nagata was awesome.
Hey the AAA Belt
Kenny needs Don Callis to talk for him.
next week is LOADED
he needs to be more succinct. i liked the promo but it went long.
this whole episode has had a great atmosphere. the product overall feels really hot tonight.
Everything Luchasaurus does looks stiff (not in a good way) and janky. Jungle Boy should be a singles star.
Ratings are in for Dynamite.
324,000
What are they chanting? I can't make it out. I heard AEW and probably this is awesome.
I'm going to have to find the FITE rip of this later. They really should have made this match commercial free.
Good match. Weak ending.
Could have used a crash pad that wasn't black at least.
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