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    Quote Originally Posted by JuveLeo View Post
    Yeah, i kinda figured. Kinda lame if Kenny wins it on TV. PPV would have felt better in my opinion, but it is what it is.
    Their ppv numbers are horrifying. Probably because most of their audience are broke ass ninjas who illegally stream everything anyway.

    PPV is kind of a dead model anyway. It works if you have the audience but they can barely pull 700,000 viewers on cable and a literally fraction of that PAYS to watch it. Put it on free tv and it'll be the highest rating they've done. Or we'll find out if that shit tag-team Kenny was stuck in for over a year truly did kill his appeal he had coming in to AEW.

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    All of their PPVs have done over 100,000 buys. That's really good.

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    all of their PPVs are doing double TNA's biggest buyrate ever at a time when spending money on traditional wrestling PPVs has been bigly devalued

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuveLeo View Post
    Yeah, i kinda figured. Kinda lame if Kenny wins it on TV. PPV would have felt better in my opinion, but it is what it is.
    i feel like the first televised world title change is actually a bigger deal and feels more memorable

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    Also better than every ECW PPV ever and better than most of the last year of WCW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    All of their PPVs have done over 100,000 buys. That's really good.
    I'd believe 100,000 views, idk about actual buys but that's just me avoiding being wrong lol.

    100,000 buys, especially in comparison to TNA when TNA were going up against the UFC and WWE when they were giving a shit about ppv, that's pretty good if actually legit.

    Think about this. WM 35 did just over 100,000 buys. Now obviously that's on top of those who watched it on the Network. If you go and look at just the Mania buyrates, as soon as the Network hit prior to WM 30 the PAY PER VIEW BUYS for just that show drop significantly. AEW not really having anyone to run up against in the ppv world and drawing 100,000+ buys, very impressive so I definitely take back what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Good show and all but hype man TK said something about the balance of power in wrestling
    Actually thought that’s the worst one yet they’ve done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    i feel like the first televised world title change is actually a bigger deal and feels more memorable
    Good point, but i feel AEW doesn't do the greatest job hyping their TV events. I remember when they did Bash at the Beach and they literally hyped it up a week before. Viewership didn't even pass 900k if i recall correctly. They should Inform viewers of the event at least a month before so word can get around and can create interest.

    Mox vs Omega is December 3rd i believe. They got roughly 3 weeks to build this. If done properly, they should hit over a million.

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    it's pretty much the biggest thing they can possible do on TV, so it'll be interesting to see what their true ceiling is.

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    Penta/Fenix II was surreal as fuck and I loved every second of it.

    It also might not have been the shift in power balance as was hyped by TK, but that ending segment with PAC and Kingston was fucking fire. I think AEW, while still a bit bloated, are really starting to build a bag of stars that's getting a bit fatter. You have Mox, Jericho, Cody, The Young Bucks, who have pretty much all been hot and popular before and/or from the start of AEW and have made a foundation to build from. Then you have the likes of Kenny, Orange Cassidy, MJF, PAC, Darby, Hangman, who may not have started strong or been consistent, but have earned a lot of clout from the crowd and have developed tremendously. And of course, Eddie Kingston has stood out from the get-go by just seeming to give a fuck more than any other person on the planet.

    And there are a lot of guys underneath who are just waiting to break out at some point, like Jungle Boy or recently Ricky Starks to name a couple. And of course, the tag division is in good hands with The Revival, Best Friends, and Jurassic Express hanging around. All they need to do is tighten up their women's division. There's a lot of potential, and if they can end up getting more Thunder Rosa, I think that could help a lot. I'm interested to see what could happen with Anna Jay and Tay Conti if they continue to follow up on that.

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    Sounds like AEW is slowly becoming interesting. Don't think I'll fork over money to watch the PPVs, but I might start recording Dynamite and check them out. Could do without Jericho, Miro and Brodie Lee, but then again WWE has some talent I could do without.

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    Meltzer's ratings for Full Gear:

    Deeb vs. Kay: 2.5

    Omega vs. Page: 4.5

    Cassidy vs. Silver: 3.5

    Allin vs. Rhodes: 4.25

    Rose vs. Shida: 3.25

    FTR vs. Young Bucks: 5.25

    Guevara vs. Hardy: No rating (cinematic)

    Jericho vs. MJF: 3.5

    Kingston vs. Moxley: 4.25

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    Definitely didn't rate FTR/Young Bucks that high. It was a great match, but I think I liked both Omega/Hangman and Cody/Darby more.

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    Kingston/Moxley is overrated. It wasn't that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Definitely didn't rate FTR/Young Bucks that high. It was a great match, but I think I liked both Omega/Hangman and Cody/Darby more.
    Nah loved the tag match one of the best ones I’ve seen. I’d agree with that rating.

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    And that was without the Meltzer Driver lol.

    Seriously, Meltzer has a tendency to overrate a bit especially when it comes to AEW’s tag division but I did really appreciate the overall story and the finish here with them throwing their best at each other, then that last desperate superkick with one leg after FTR targeted it.

    Wouldn’t give it that high a score but it was my favourite with Omega/Hangman a close second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Nah loved the tag match one of the best ones I’ve seen. I’d agree with that rating.
    I wasn't saying the match was bad at all. I loved it. I just wouldn't say that it was greater than 5 stars.

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    No I know you weren’t, I was just making my point I agree with the score it got.

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    The Inner Circle/MJF & Wardlow stuff has been really good.

    The picture from Vegas, Jericho, MJF & Santana all happy. Sammy G and Ortiz pissed off and Hager & Wardlow staring at each other as usual

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    There's so much going on in this pic. MJF, Jericho, and Santana are having a blast while Otiz and Sammy are utterly dejected. Meanwhile, Wardlow and Hager are as far apart as possible, but staring holes into each other.


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    Is MJF a fan of Tom Baker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    There's so much going on in this pic. MJF, Jericho, and Santana are having a blast while Otiz and Sammy are utterly dejected. Meanwhile, Wardlow and Hager are as far apart as possible, but staring holes into each other.

    this was the one I was on about

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    "A picture is worth a thousand words"-Nash Diesel 2020

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    I believe Michael Scott said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    There's so much going on in this pic. MJF, Jericho, and Santana are having a blast while Otiz and Sammy are utterly dejected. Meanwhile, Wardlow and Hager are as far apart as possible, but staring holes into each other.

    lol, that's actually pretty funny.

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    I stuck the latest Dark on. Few observations:

    • The women's matches were probably the highlight. Leyla Hirsch is the business, expect her to go on to bigger things for sure. Her opponent Tesha Price needs work but showed flashes. Lindsay Rose against Thunder Rosa and Alex Gracia against Ivelisse also impressed. Kilynn King and Big Swole less so but it was fine too.
    • D-Von's sons TNT have definitely got potential. They look pretty solid already.
    • Griff Garrison's going places I reckon. Fun match with Kazarian.
    • Britt Baker has a new talk show segment called The Waiting Room. Could work for her. The Hybrid 2 were on and their promo was quite effective. Dorks.
    • Another of Billy Gunn's sons, Colton, made his debut as part of the Gunn Club so they're a trio now. He's taller and older than Austin but doesn't look as polished. Billy at 57 is still the best of the three.
    • Amongst all the newer talent, I think The Acclaimed stand out. I see they got contracts so that makes sense. Max Caster feels like an instant star especially. Look forward to them appearing on Dynamite.

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    Leyla Hirsch is the real deal. Get her a manager and let her tear up the division.

    This was an amusing find.


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    I told a couple of the guys in Fantasy Football I would give AEW another chance, so I watched last weeks show.....


    It probably isn’t good that my main takeaway was that Cody still has the most pretentious fucking entrance in professional wrestling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    I told a couple of the guys in Fantasy Football I would give AEW another chance, so I watched last weeks show.....


    It probably isn’t good that my main takeaway was that Cody still has the most pretentious fucking entrance in professional wrestling.
    I mean, if nothing else, he definitely plays on that personality. He's basically a pseudo-heel at this point.

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    For a big signing in Miro, I haven't heard a lot about him recently in AEW. Also Brodie Lee for that matter.

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    This Top Flight tag team are really good. They've executed all their high flying moves near perfectly. The only issue i have is, like much of AEW, they go at a 100 percent the entire match. These guys need to slow down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    For a big signing in Miro, I haven't heard a lot about him recently in AEW. Also Brodie Lee for that matter.
    Brodie Lee is injured.

    Also, it's so Mox to just casually mention in a promo that Renee is pregnant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuveLeo View Post
    This Top Flight tag team are really good. They've executed all their high flying moves near perfectly. The only issue i have is, like much of AEW, they go at a 100 percent the entire match. These guys need to slow down.
    Loved their match. This is a team I can get fully behind

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    Loved the Vegas stuff

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    The Vegas stuff was fantastic.

    Enjoyed the Top Flight/Bucks too and the main event this week, also.

    Oh, Deeb and Rosa was good too. Rosa looking very strong in defeat and moving on with Baker.

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    So what's the story with the AEW Women's championship? Why do we have both the AEW and NWA women's champions in this company? I don't watch really anything related to the NWA that happened after the 80's so I can't even tell you if there are any other NWA talents working for AEW like the women's champion has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    So what's the story with the AEW Women's championship? Why do we have both the AEW and NWA women's champions in this company? I don't watch really anything related to the NWA that happened after the 80's so I can't even tell you if there are any other NWA talents working for AEW like the women's champion has been.
    Doesn't seem like they can film their youtube show NWA Powerr right now so I think Billy Corgan just wanted to get the title some exposure. I think it's just Thunder Rosa and Serena Deeb working for both, Thunder Rosa isn't signed to AEW though, Serena Deeb is, but Ricky Starks and Eddie Kingston were both with NWA before they signed to AEW.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...ance_personnel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Doesn't seem like they can film their youtube show NWA Powerr right now so I think Billy Corgan just wanted to get the title some exposure. I think it's just Thunder Rosa and Serena Deeb working for both, Thunder Rosa isn't signed to AEW though, Serena Deeb is, but Ricky Starks and Eddie Kingston were both with NWA before they signed to AEW.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...ance_personnel
    Ok I wasn't sure if it was some weird angle they're working toward to have an AEW/NWA Women's champion or what the deal is.

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    Colt Cabana and Allysin Kay also appeared on Power. I miss that show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    The Vegas stuff was fantastic.

    Enjoyed the Top Flight/Bucks too and the main event this week, also.

    Oh, Deeb and Rosa was good too. Rosa looking very strong in defeat and moving on with Baker.
    Oh good was the Top Flight match. It flowed very nicely and the high spots where nice and crisp.

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    Is it me, or has Jake the Snake gained a lot of weight again? I hope he's still keeping himself healthy.

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    Lads

    As someone who has only kept up to date with reports online due to being flat out with work and family, I'm curious

    Who are the 'faces amongst the Penta/Fenix/Kingston/Pac/Butcher/Blade/Bunny/Archer thing

    Seems like a weird way to close the show

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    penta, fenix and pac seemed to have turned face. kingston is a clear heel.

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    Cody says there is no such things as faces and heels and he's the best booker in there so think about that.

    I don't mean this as a compliment.

    Who is the best booker in wrestling right now anyway? Gedo has shit the bed this year. AEW is fine I guess. Vince is senile. I haven't been paying much attention to anything else during the plague.

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    Nice show this week. Give me Team Taz vs The Nightmare family all day please, should be fun Taz & Cody on the mic

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuveLeo View Post
    Is it me, or has Jake the Snake gained a lot of weight again? I hope he's still keeping himself healthy.
    Jake revealed in September that he's dealing with C.O.P.D. (Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Jake revealed in September that he's dealing with C.O.P.D. (Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease).
    Thanks for informing me dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuveLeo View Post
    Thanks for informing me dude.
    No prob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    Yeah it sounds like Scurll got shitcanned
    Can't think why. Anyhow Dynamite and NXT are my shows now, Skip through Raw and SD to stuff I like the look of (bel to bell is usually good) but yeah Vince and his yes men have rendered me a casual main roster watcher barring ppvs.

    On the other side of that I enjoy Dynamite and NXT every week on the whole.

    Inner Circle
    Team Taz
    Eddie's Family

    Are probably my favourite things going.

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    I can’t watch any wwe stuff at this point. The camera work makes me dizzy and there are like 10 hours of tv a week, I just can’t do it.

    my weekly viewing now is basically:

    MLW...easily my fave weekly shows.
    ROH most weeks. The new product is very good, but some ppl on the roster are a bore.
    Dynamite...good most every week. I really enjoy it.
    whenever NJPW does a show...although Gedo’s booking is going apeshit in a bad way.
    Impact. The matches don’t really do it for me, but the storylines and characters are top notch.


    I miss POWERRR tho

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    @Hero! what impact stories are top notch?

    i've watched a little of the new product, and it's just all over the place. how is rich swann a main eventer.

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    Haha I recored a random episode of Impact the other day too see how it was.

    Myers was wrestling Hornswoggle and there was a who done it angle because someone was shot whiles getting married or something, madness.

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    that guy who got shot is one of the worst characters i have seen in awhile

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    I gave up half way through it was like watching a very bad B movie.

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    I just saw Abadon is going after the Women's championship. Looks like I'll be tuning into a bit of AEW now.

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    Time to change my username to Abadonald

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    AEW and WWE are going up against an NFL game this week. I have no interest in handegg, but from what I hear this is an anticipated game so it will be interesting to see how AEW and NXT fair. Hopefully neither show is hurt too bad. I should watch both shows live to help them out.

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