FTW Championship.
Yeah Khan that really sent shockwaves through the industry!
Oh and thanks to the brilliant journalist who put the spoiler in the title for those of us who haven't seen the show yet!
FTW Championship.
Yeah Khan that really sent shockwaves through the industry!
Oh and thanks to the brilliant journalist who put the spoiler in the title for those of us who haven't seen the show yet!
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It's going to be interesting to see who had more viewers: Cole vs. Lee or Jeircho vs. Cassidy.
I'm pretty sure it's a foregone conclusion that Cole vs Lee will be the winner.
Make this real quick for fun.
Week 01: 1,409,000 viewers
Week 02: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week 03: 1,014,000 viewers
Week 04: 963,000 viewers
Week 05: 759,000 viewers
Week 06: 822,000 viewers
Week 07: 957,000 viewers
Week 08: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
Week 09: 663,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 10: 851,000 viewers
Week 11: 778,000 viewers (tie)
Week 12: 683,000 viewers
Week 13 (after being off the week prior): 967,000 viewers
Week 14: 947,000 viewers
Week 15: 940,000 viewers
Week 16: 871,000 viewers
Week 17: 828,000 viewers
Week 18: 928,000 viewers
Week 19: 817,000 viewers
Week 20: 893,000 viewers
Week 21: 865,000 viewers
Week 22: 906,000 viewers
Week 23: 766,000 viewers
Week 24: 932,000 viewers
Week 25: 819,000 viewers
Week 26: 685,000 viewers
Week 27: 692,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 28: 683,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 29: 731,000 viewers
Week 30: 693,000 viewers
Week 31: 732,000 viewers
Week 32: 654,000 viewers
Week 33: 701,000 viewers
Week 34: 827,000 viewers
Week 35: 730,000 viewers
Week 36: 677,000 viewers
Week 37: 772,000 viewers
Week 38: 633,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 39: 748,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 40: 715,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Dam 3 in a row. No doubt Cole vs Lee was the main reason.
Thought AEW this week was quite a bit better than NXT.
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That was amazing. Defo a holy shit mouth open momentOriginally Posted by Sasori
Make this real quick for fun.
Why what was Kahn saying?FTW Championship.
Yeah Khan that really sent shockwaves through the industry!
Oh and thanks to the brilliant journalist who put the spoiler in the title for those of us who haven't seen the show yet!
Me personally I like how they brought it back. Few crazy wrestlers to contend for it.
Jericho/OC was tremendous. Cassidy’s move sets were smooth as fuck, got to be contender for match of the year so far.
It was overhyped like these things usually are as an industry-changing announcement.
Shall we call him Dixie Kahn?
NXT is on a roll. 3 ratings wins in a row for the first time since these "wars" started. WWE countering with Great American Bash for free definitely stole the win.
I am curious to see next week what the ratings are after NXT give away the biggest NXT moment on free TV. Very WCW of them. Khan is right saying the demo ratings matter. If it wasn't for the 50 plus, NXT would lose all the time. The older fans helping NXT is sorta weird, because shouldn't NXT be for the younger marks, but I guess us all smart marks are getting social security soon.
Old people don't know how DVR works. So NXT is appointment viewing for them. Boomers get all their news from their Facebook feeds, anyway.
If there's something more important worth watching, then AEW's younger, smarter, more tech-savvy viewers are probably pretty likely to record it and then watch whatever real-world thing is more important.
Meltzer's ratings for Fyter Fest Night 2:
Omega and Page versus Private Party: 4.0
Archer versus Janela: 3.75
Pentagon & Fenix, Butcher & Blade versus Young Bucks, FTR: 4.75
Nyla versus Kenzie, KiLynn: 1.0
Lee, Cabana, Grayson versus SCU: 3.0
Jericho versus Cassidy: 4.25
A few ridiculous overratings there.
I enjoyed the 8 man tag and all but 4.75???
Jericho/Cassidy told a great story and was my MOTN.
That about lines up with my enjoyment of the show. I'd probably bring the 8-man tag down a couple pegs, but I did enjoy it as much as the main event.
Not sure why they had FTR and Bucks lose but maybe it was to make Butcher and the Blah look somewhat credible even though they didn't get the pin. Not a fan of the way FTR are being booked right now. They should have came in and immediately went after the Bucks. All this other bullshit is just boring. Imagine if Matt Hardy returned and instead of beating Edge down they started a tag-team....
FTW belt......That belt means absolutely nothing. It made sense 25 years ago when Taz brought it in because Shane wouldn't defend it (due to legit injury) so for a few months Taz had this belt. But he brings it in because his roid guy has to wait a week? IDK. All the shoots about Taz being a pussy in real life soured me completely on him acting tough. Low Ki's dad he be.
Archer-Janela was cool, I dig the Sonny Kiss involvement. The other 6-man with Mr. Brodie Lee....anyone who enjoys this angle is a buffoon.
Nyla Rose apparently doesn't give 2 shits about Covid-19. Some beasts breathe fire, others spray spit like a Peter North money shot. Then the bitch licked their hand and smeared it on the camera.....wtf....
LOVE LOVE LOVE Private Party especially dude with the Road Warrior Hawk haircut Mar Quen. Probably match of the night for me. Orange Julius v. Jericho was another good match. Definitely think Jericho saying it was one of the best matches of his 30 year career is about as absurd as really anything he's said since joining AEW but a good match for sure.
All in all a good Fyter Fest.
I imagine FTR's booking is an attempt to do what they should have done with Bobby Roode coming to the main roster: book 'em as neutral babyfaces to gel with the return pop, then give them reason to turn. In this case it's The Bucks, and ideally, this loss will be the beginning of setting up the FTR/Bucks match. Otherwise, I agree if they drag it on past this point.
It's also possible that they didn't care about the return pop(since they don't have actual fans in the crowd), but didn't want to waste FTR/Bucks for a fake crowd.
I tend to this is the last line of your statement, and just allowing an audience to get integrated with FTR within the landscape. If they're about the long game, it'd be pretty silly to shoot for the stars right away and jumping right into FTR/Bucks.
Private Party match was good but how are they ranked number 5, beat an unranked team the week before and that gives them a title match? The obvious result took away from my enjoyment.
Cage gets a belt again making it obvious as if it wasn’t already that he’s not beating Moxley.
They waste TV time having Nyla beat two jobbers and have her tease a manager announcement instead of using the platform to debut her? It prob won’t be that good anyway but that’s besides the point here.
I know WWE gets shit for their booking but some of this bloody hell!
Overall I enjoyed the show but some really strange booking in parts.
This honestly feels pretty miniscule, though. The Private Party contender shot was obviously shoehorned in to make up for the lack of Mox/Cage, so they didn't have many other choices. Bucks were in a storyline, SCU have already had a couple shots, The Dark Order shouldn't be wasted this moment, and Santana/Ortiz were actually #4. Also, who cares if a match is a little predictable? It's impossible to have matches always be unpredictable. Sometimes you just have to enjoy the match-up for what it is instead of getting caught up in how predictable it is. It was a strong match that for me, made me not really think/care about who was going to win.
I generally agree with the FTW Title/Cage situation, though. I think it would have been better to have the match, maybe make it look like Moxley just barely survived, and then Taz gives Cage the FTW title as a consolation prize that just fuels his rage as he goes on a path of destruction. Again, though, a situation that was clearly born out of last-minute changes and could be much worse.
I’m sure I heard on commentary last week Santana/Ortiz were unranked but correct me if I’m wrong on that.
I get there’s been some problems come up but it still seems rather a big jump for them. The story is Matt the veteran teaching them yeah and this seems a bit early. The match was good though no denying that. It just feels like a waiting game til FTR and/or Young Bucks challenge Omega/Page and I’m less invested as a result but that’s just me.
Fair enough. I think a lot of it definitely has to do with COVID pushing people off TV 1-2 months as well as playing a bit of chicken with what they want to give away before crowds can return. You could be right about Private Party, and the ranking I looked at could be new(doesn't seem like it's been updated from Fyter Fest N2, at least). But overall, I do think the quality of the match makes up for any shortcomings or odd booking choices. It would be another thing entirely had Private Party actually won.
Pairing with Badger's point about predictability, Private Party earned the title shot on night one but the closing segment of night one featured a pull apart between The Bucks, FTR, and Page/Omega. The title match on night two was clearly entertaining but the missed an opportunity and essentially told the audience PP was just there to be there by what they did to close night one. Easily could have done something where PP came out instead of The Bucks to show they shouldn't be overlooked because they're the ones actually come for the shot the next week. Still likely would've led to a predictable result but it could have done some added favors to PP.
Jesus, they're high. I enjoyed the show, but damn.
Cassidy/Jericho was wonderful and deffo my match of the night. In fact, the main events of night 2 for NXT and AEW were the most enjoyable to me. Nice.
I'm intrigued to see how the Mox/Cage match will turn out. I can see someone coming in and causing a disqualification of some sort. Kinda dumb to make Cage lose so early.
Aww yeah, in the immortal words of Kenan Thompson -- Oh, here it goes! Its time once again for yet another Wednesday night wind up. We're here tonight to get our noses back the grindstones, we're sweeping Daily's Place and picking bits and pieces of sand out of everywhere -- because sand is rough and coarse, and it gets everywhere -- As we're setting course for yet another "Fight" -- this time spelled properly -- As AEW presents their third TV special in as many weeks, its time for AEW's FIGHT FOR THE FALLEN on AEW....
"I believe... I believe...I believe... in The Fallen..."
- And Fight For The Fallen's frightfully fruitful fightcard is full of fully fearsome fortuitously featured fights as we've got a loaded card, more full to bursting than Fyter Fest's bikini babes as...
-- "The Machine" Johnny... err... Brian Cage challenges Jon "May Have Had A Pox" Moxley for Mox's AEW Championship
-- In tag-team warfare -- The freshly arrived FTR - Cash Wheeler and Dax Harwood take on the Mexican Lucha Warriors -- The Lucha Brothers -- Pentagon "Ciero Miedo" Jr. and "Everybody Loves" Rey(mond) Fenix -- Can the best American mechanics this side of Pep Boys drag The Mexican jumping beans kicking and screaming to their first good American-style tag-team match?
-- Cody Rhodes defends his TNT Championship against an opponent seemingly picked out of a hat -- "The Concrete Rose" Sonny Kiss - If Sonny dethrones the Grandson of a plumber, Sonny would be the first non-binary wrestler to hold a major championship in North America.
-- The Judas of AEW - Chris Jericho has a special announcement to make.
-- The Elite -- Kenny "Twinkle Toes McFingerBang" Omega and The Young Bucks take on The Jurassic Express -- Billy And The Cloneosauraus and Marko "Stunted Growth" Stunt in Six-Man-Tag-Team-Warfare.
-- The Nightmare Sisters -- Brandi "Inserts Herself Into Everything Like A Sentient Sex Toy With Boundary Issues" Rhodes and "The Artist Formerly Known As "The Bunny"" Allie in Women's division tag-team action. Will Allie and Brandi continue their winning ways, spring boarding off the momentum they've built on AEW Dark, or will their team implode? Brandi doesn't like Allie, Allie really likes QT, and we're all caught in the middle of it.
-- So, that's your lot for tonight. Should be a solid show. It seems weird to do another major TV special like this, so shortly after Fyter Fest. But it feels like AEW is reticent to do pay-per-views without an audience. So enjoy the show. And remember, its for a good cause. All the money made on tonight's program will go toward Coronavirus charities. Tally ho!
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Serpentico there in the front row wearing a mask over a mask.
Like putting a hat on a hat.
I might dial up Cody vs. Sonny later on. Also, I don't think Sonny identifies as non-binary. Also, stop being a homophobic doofus.
Ufc going on tonight as well will take away both live audiences tonight...
JR said on his podcast a few weeks ago that Sonny identifies as either a man or a woman. When JR called Sonny "her" on TV, everybody was dragging him for it. But Sonny said it was okay.
Apropos of nothing, but happy birthday to Miss Anna Jay.
Wasn't she like, sort of kidnapped by The Dark Order a few weeks ago? Whatever happened with that?
The Nightmare sisters... really? Not trying to be a dick, but Brandi can't wrestle for shit, let alone draw. She's better off as a manager.
I stand corrected. I've read/watched a few interviews with him and never heard him identify as such but I do recall seeing him address that "her" from JR on Twitter.
One thing I don't understand about The FTR/Botcher and Blade truck stealing angle; These guys show up, wrestle, do a TV show, and then (presumably) go home every Wednesday. Why the Hell haven't FTR called the police to get their truck back? They literally know exactly where these idiots are going to be every week.
Hell, why not just jump them with some pipes and take their shit back? Or pay a couple of goobers to steal the truck back while Botcher and Blade and the Lucha Bros are wrestling, or otherwise distracted?
When you're traveling around the country, going to a different arena every day, I could believe that a team could steal somebody's car and keep it from them. But they're coming to the same arena every week.
... and cue JR to say exactly what I'm thinking.
Whatever that was... it almost wasn't.
Butcher and The Blade still dressed like a couple hipster sailors on shore leave.
That was maybe the best traditional tag-team match I've ever seen the Lucha Brothers manage to have.
Okay, that was fun stuff.
If you're going to beat anybody from Jurassic Express, it should be Marko Cunt.
Second week in a row that a bunch of guys contrived a new and more dangerous way to do a Canadian Destroyer.
Its all good in there until somebody gets their neck broke.
Chris Jericho dropping a Smokey Mountain Wrestling reference.
Neat.
Nyla Rose announces her new manager next.
Please...?
He was actually one of the nicest guys when I met him in ecw in 2000
Nyla Rose announces her new manager next.
Please...?
Yeah, I heard he's a super cool dude. He's apparently one of the most womanizing guys in wrestling in real life, though.
Boo!
You're excused.
Shit, Vicki just shoehorned in as many references to lying, cheating, and stealing as she possibly could right there.
Ivelisse and Diamante both debuting on AEW TV next week?
Their women's division just went up a level in badass.
Haven't heard of them. Are they indy wrestlers?Ivelisse and Diamante both debuting on AEW TV next week?
Their women's division just went up a level in badass.
They've both been in the bigs in a couple places.
Ivelisse was Trios Champions with Angelico and Son of Havoc (Angelico is in AEW with Jack Evans, actually) in Lucha Underground. Unfortunately, she spent a lot of her time injured and didn't wrestle as much as she could have.
Diamante was the female member of LAX in Impact Wrestling. When they were led by Eddie Kingston. As a matter of fact, she was in LAX at the same time as Santana and Ortiz.
They're both very talented women, who come from TV wrestling backgrounds. So they should be better than the average indie girls AEW brings in.
Nice! AEW has been hurting for quality female wrestlers since they started and especially since all the injuries they've received, they really need the fresh talent.
Okay, okay. Not bad.
Cage looked good, still gets protected, and now he gets his heat back.
And right out of that, we get Darby/Cage. Smart.
Now Cage has an issue if they ever go back to Cage/Mox.
Extremely solid tag match between FTR and Lucha Bros. What a fail though by not being able to start the truck, haha.
Feels like a mixed bag with the Jericho segment but my initial thought is he needs to shut his ass with the Demo God moniker. Can't blame him for trying to come up with another name, because that's his thing, but it feels a little too on the nose. At least he was his usual entertaining self on commentary. Six-man match was good, despite some blatantly delayed timing issues to set moves up. I really don't get into much that Stunt does but the rest of the pieces involved were very solid. Really enjoyed the developments involving The Elite, Hangman, and FTR.
Vickie with Nyla seemed like a pretty predictable fit. If AEW is going to be known for anything, it's going to be tag teams and managers.
Good story set up by Moxley in his promo, saying he was going to go after the surgically-repaired bicep. Smart counter after Taz cited that Moxley wasn't going to be able to hit the Paradigm Shift on Cage. The finish was creative enough, giving Cage a protected loss, heat on Cage, and Taz backing up his talk by going out of his way to protect his investment. Having Cage softened up does help open the door for Allin to pounce on him. There's a lot of connective tissue there so good on them to make it all fit together. Seeing what specifically is next for Moxley is certainly intriguing.
Butcher and The Blade still dressed like a couple hipster sailors on shore leave.
“Clockwork Orange”.
p.s. Where was Tony?
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I've never seen Sonny Kiss wrestle a singles match, but he impressed me. Cody was more aggressive than I expected. I loved that he pulled out the Vertebreaker.
FTR and Lucha Bros. definitely got off to a rough start, but it turned into something really cool.
I don't know what to say about the Elite vs Jurassic Express. Just insanity!
I'm glad Allie is back in the women's division. She was pretty wasted as the Bunny.
The main event was solid. I have mixed feelings about Taz throwing in the towel, but I liked Cage's intensity when he came back out to the ring and tried to get his hands on Allin.
One thing I wanted to mention is that I see so much hostility towards AEW on some message boards. There seems to be a huge sense of entitlement from the fans critical of their shows. They expect AEW to perfectly cater to what they want in a wrestling promotion, and when it doesn't, they take it personally and throw a fit. I don't know where it says that AEW is required viewing.
Week 01: 1,409,000 viewers
Week 02: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week 03: 1,014,000 viewers
Week 04: 963,000 viewers
Week 05: 759,000 viewers
Week 06: 822,000 viewers
Week 07: 957,000 viewers
Week 08: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
Week 09: 663,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 10: 851,000 viewers
Week 11: 778,000 viewers (tie)
Week 12: 683,000 viewers
Week 13 (after being off the week prior): 967,000 viewers
Week 14: 947,000 viewers
Week 15: 940,000 viewers
Week 16: 871,000 viewers
Week 17: 828,000 viewers
Week 18: 928,000 viewers
Week 19: 817,000 viewers
Week 20: 893,000 viewers
Week 21: 865,000 viewers
Week 22: 906,000 viewers
Week 23: 766,000 viewers
Week 24: 932,000 viewers
Week 25: 819,000 viewers
Week 26: 685,000 viewers
Week 27: 692,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 28: 683,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 29: 731,000 viewers
Week 30: 693,000 viewers
Week 31: 732,000 viewers
Week 32: 654,000 viewers
Week 33: 701,000 viewers
Week 34: 827,000 viewers
Week 35: 730,000 viewers
Week 36: 677,000 viewers
Week 37: 772,000 viewers
Week 38: 633,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 39: 748,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 40: 715,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 41: 788,000 viewers
One thing I forgot to mention. Jericho has to be the best at screaming someone's name while being held back
Jericho is one of the GOAT. Just imagine if Vince had gave him permission to use NXT talent on his inaugural cruise.
Nice bounce back. Looks like the UFC didn't hinder their ratings at all.
kenny omega doppleganger running for president of chile
If it weren't illegal or whatever, Jericho should wrestle a 17-year-old. In addition, he should pummel him and as he does he should keep yelling, "you don't matter." When Jericho turns 50, he just needs to get disheveled because he will no longer matter.
Jericho should never retire. NXT probably pulled a Hogan/Goldberg with Lee/Cole. NXT is down again and no real money matches in the near future. While AEW has not really scratched the surface with opportunities for Mox,Cody, Omega and Jericho plus the tag teams.
I doubt that claim on NXT's end. There's still plenty of meat on the bone and its really hard to criticize them with the amount of time and effort they put into stories. And out of what you listed, you missed a key neutralizer on NXT's side, which was given credibility this very week.
If anything, AEW are lacking on main-event challengers for Mox. Cody obv can't and I think Jericho's role atm is to put others over even if not by wrestling so they have him fill in for cover.
AEW scored a big victory over NXT no doubt despite MMA but mixed about Taz throwing the towel in as normally a face move. On the one hand it does protect Cage but also the way things played out with Cage getting up quite quickly post-match it's also a load of shit. Darby causing the DQ prob would have been the best scenario.
MJF has to get a shot at one of the TNT or AEW titles very soon. Record-wise he's the only viable contender atm which is both a blessing and a curse. Brodie Lee was on a streak but they killed that early with Mox.
They scored a decisive win over NXT this week no doubt but they had Moxley coming back and Jericho playing "Demo God" might be them getting too cocky. Kinda wish they would just ignore WWE completely and keep doing their own thing. WWE's product isn't the best atm but still wish AEW would leave laying in the shots. Too WCW-like IMO.
I don't mind this too much. I guess because since the beginning, we knew, despite them saying to the contrary, this was a war with WWE. Now it is more prevalent. I think that having lost both Fyter Fest vs GAB, really did piss them off. So they're going to present that on television, but also in a way to further their stories. It's been mentioned on commentary about maybe the open challenge is starting to weigh on Cody. Along with the network being in his ear nagging on ratings since he is a suit and tie guy. Kenny starting to revert to his "Cleaner" New Japan days (which I've not seen too much of, but is highly praised) is a side affect of that also, since he's also a suit and tie, but he also is an active wrestler.
This show itself felt more intense. Sonny Kiss vs Cody was much better than I was expecting. They were showing that even their "comedy" guys can kick your ass if you take them lightly. As a comparison to a WWE comedy guy that will run around with a worthless belt and pretend to have mental issues.
"I'M COVERED IN ORANGE JUICE!"
"You stink!"
Normally, things like beer baths, milk hosing, shit falling, and other viscous liquids being dumped on a guy will make me roll my eyes at the hokey-ness. And while having that guy flopping around like a fish was stupid, the rest got a chuckle out of me. And I wasn't thinking about it, given his orange juice gimmick.
I will tune out Vickie, though. I can't take that voice. I just can't.
I probably missed them mentioning it when he first started managing Cody but just what is that thing Arn Anderson always carries around? Is it like a checklist or somethng?
Pretty sure in kayfabe Arn's clipboard is supposed to have notes about Cody's opponents. Probably has notes on Cody too.
So I'm guessing SCU took the place of The Good Brothers in the AEW Tag Title scene last year.
I don't see what the issue is with Jericho pushing the "Demogod" angle. He's a heel. He's supposed to be cocky. Notice how it wasn't about AEW winning the ratings, it was about Jericho winning the ratings.
Taz throwing in the towel is smart. From his perspective, that's his investment that's already had his arm broken. It shuts Taz up, proves Cage is vulnerable, but also shows that Cage is still tough as shit for not tapping or passing out. It gives him credibility, but doesn't make him a babyface.
I'll be honest....5/10 show.
Highlights:
FTR v. Lucha (sorta)
Mox v. Cage
I can't speak on really anything else. I can appreciate a lot of those wild high spots in the 6-man but Jesus Christ, tell a fuckin story. And for the love of God. Stop putting that infant on t.v. I can't handle it, it's on the same level of dog shit as Hornswoggle. I'm sure some of you loved that dude but he was right up there with Montreal, the Finger Poke, whatever shit angle or wrestler you can think of this guy is on the Mt Rushmore with those 2 finishes and Mae Young's hand. Stunt is about to replace the Finger Poke.
Sonny Kiss v. Cody sucked. Vickie, meh. 12 years ago, super heat, now, she's for sure in the wrong company if she thinks the real fans will actually boo her. Shit I think it's frowned upon to even boo Nyla Jax.
Also, who was it that spit on the camera man? Was that Moxley? I can't remember but there was a part of the show where someone spit at the camera and I was like....Yeah that's smart.
I will say this....That OJ bath Jericho took was brutal. That all went on him, had to have sucked but man....I like Orange Cassidy but AEW is on some WWF New Generation 1995 booking having their top tier dudes feuding with lesser knowns in hopes they'll get a rub but they've essentially made people like Kenny Omega just as bland as Mark Jindrak in WCW.
That UFC card was whack. Nobody is tuning in to those weekly shows. It's like watching Tuesday Night Fights back in the 90's. A bunch of up and comers and title fights nobody cared about lol.
Orange Cassidy is hella over and can back it up in the ring. What's wrong with Jericho getting into a program with him? I'd rather he be in fresh programs with the less tested talent than having him just fighting for the title over and over again.
I'm not sure I get your criticism either, Nash. AEW has done a good job utilizing the roster they have. Jericho mixing it up with less established guys and making them look credible is going to help build the company for the long term.
I agree. I think Jericho has done well building the younger and lesser experienced talent thus far. Although it seems the Inner Circle has lost most of it's steam. It feels like they lose more matches than they win at the moment. Waiting for Pride and Powerful to get a nice push
A proper push for Santana and Ortiz has been sorely missing. They were, and still are, fairly over, and work well as goons for Jericho. But they have enough going for their selves that they should be successful goons that are a proper threat in the tag division.
I'd love to see them get into a personal feud with another team and come out on top. Then maybe get a serious challenge at whoever are the champs between Hangman/Omega, FTR, and The Bucks.
I'd love to see Santana and Ortiz reunited with Diamante. Maybe they could even get Konnan in to manage them?
Not sure what they'd call themselves -- since they can't be LAX, but whatever. They can be "The 187", or "The Mexico Mercs" or some shit.
Just a really random thought on a match -- If people aren't watching AEW Dark, they should be, its like the modern day version of WCW Worldwide or Saturday Night. Its mostly "Star vs. Jobber" matches, but every now and then, you get a little gem.
Like Scorpio Sky wrestling Serpentico (if you're wondering who that is, he's always there in the audience. He's the dude who wears a Coronavirus mask over his regular, luchador mask.) These two had a, maybe, 15 minute match on an episode of Dark and it was super solid shit. Even though he's roughly pretty unknown, Serpentico kept right in there with Sky and gave him a very good match. The kid's a little green, and there's a few awkward moments here and there, but its fun shit and the right guy won.
For the exact opposite (on the same show, actually) AEW seemed to book a match by throwing darts into the locker room and booking whoever they hit -- which is how we got Frankie Kazarian -- A guy with a ton of talent and who really flirted with being a main event player in TNA at one point -- against Doctor Luther -- A Chris Jericho nepotism hire who looks like Uncle Fester and who wrestles with all the grace and dexterity of two tectonic plates sliding passed each other.
This shit was a mess. These two guys had about as much chemistry as mixing acids and bases. They blow a flying headscissor spot so badly, Kaz looks like he wants to buy a machine gun and shoot whoever booked this. Uncle Fester does exactly jack shit and fuck all in a heat segment so cold you could turn your air conditioning off while it was going on, and still keep cool.
Kaz almost wins with a springboard, outside-in Oklahoma roll, and it looks like he's a coroner dragging a dead body away on a gurney with one busted wheel, just trying to turn the fatass over.
Finally, Kaz gets it with a victory roll. And its 9 minutes of your life you'll never get back.
Kaz "wins", but the poor bastard has the same "boo-boo face" some guys get when they're going out to do a job.
Fucking dreadful.
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Damn, I take a post-dinner nap and wake up to Eddie Kingston power-bombing Cody onto a pile of thumbtacks.
Holy shit. I know they probably gimmick those somehow, but that always looks like it hurts.
Griff Garrison is like Jungle Boy Jr.
"I've watched "Space Jam" 19 times and he beats The Mon-Stars every time."
Heh. A woman after my own heart.
"Mud Show Tonight".
Pal, you have no idea.
This is good fun so far.
Like a more modern day version of those old Rey Mysterio/Psychosis matches from ECW, where they'd give each other flying hurricanranas off of people's cars in the marking lot.
MJF needs more time on the mic every week, even if he's on the sidelines as a fan. Guy is gold.
Britt Baker has been heavily missed as well. Can't wait to see her back in the ring.
Alex Marvez has all the personality of a cardboard box melting in the rain.
Also, whoever did the sound mixing for that segment sucks. I couldn't understand a word that The Chickenhawk had to say there.
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I wish they'd have MJF sit in on commentary for a week.
So good to see AEW bolster their women's division ranks with two veterans.
I know she's a total racist cunt, but if they could get Tessa Blanchard now that she's finished up with Impact, they might really start to have something.
I expected allot more from that women's match. I haven't seen Ivelisse in a while, but I remember her being better. Felt like Diamante had more to offer, but had to slow down to accommodate Ive.
I've read that Ivelisse has heat with Tessa, so I don't know if we'll see them both in the same company.
Dark Order #5.
Its a debut match. They don't have to show everything they've got.
Wow, AEW actually managing to put on a tag-team match with an actual, decent heat segment.
And it doesn't involve FTR. Wow.
Good to see Sammy back from "I want to rape Sasha Banks" jail.
But for a minute there, I really liked the swerve of a random AEW Dark jobber joining The Inner Circle.
Sammy: "It was me the whole time!"
Cody/Kingston was a good impromptu brawl. I'm not sure if the open challenges work in terms of bettering the outlook for the challengers. That ultimately remains to be seen. It certainly makes Cody look good.
Britt's promo was really humorous.
Tag did the necessary job of backing up JR's assertion from last week as to why he threw in the towel for Cage. Allin and Cage is a great pairing because Cage is going to look crazy manhandling Allin, and Allin is going to go back to being endearing by coming back for more.
I'm curious to see how the Women's Tag Team Cup goes down. I imagine it's going to be a solid opportunity for indie performers to shine because they need more bodies to fill the tournament out.
Falls Count Anywhere Tag was your typical wild match with a lot of fluff and some pretty spectacular spots. The spot where Blade whiffed on the tope was kind of scary. The finish was obviously a hell of a visual and extremely emphatic.
I don't know why but Page's line of "I don't know if I'm really ready to join a cult right now" tickled me. Good stuff with FTR and Omega in regards to Page.
Main event was entertaining. I'm not sure if we're at the expiration date but it feels like the similar group of Jungle Boy, Allin, Cassidy and people of that ilk are always built well but don't really win when it comes to money time. Kind of feels like they need to be thrown a bone and build some actually moment in big matches with some wins.
top to bottom i think that was the best dynamite of the lock down
Typically you want to impress in your debut. For allot of people, this is their first time seeing either Ivelisse or Diamante. Having a mediocre match isn't going to win over fans.
I didn't come away thinking I was excited to see more of them.
Week 01: 1,409,000 viewers
Week 02: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week 03: 1,014,000 viewers
Week 04: 963,000 viewers
Week 05: 759,000 viewers
Week 06: 822,000 viewers
Week 07: 957,000 viewers
Week 08: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
Week 09: 663,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 10: 851,000 viewers
Week 11: 778,000 viewers (tie)
Week 12: 683,000 viewers
Week 13 (after being off the week prior): 967,000 viewers
Week 14: 947,000 viewers
Week 15: 940,000 viewers
Week 16: 871,000 viewers
Week 17: 828,000 viewers
Week 18: 928,000 viewers
Week 19: 817,000 viewers
Week 20: 893,000 viewers
Week 21: 865,000 viewers
Week 22: 906,000 viewers
Week 23: 766,000 viewers
Week 24: 932,000 viewers
Week 25: 819,000 viewers
Week 26: 685,000 viewers
Week 27: 692,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 28: 683,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 29: 731,000 viewers
Week 30: 693,000 viewers
Week 31: 732,000 viewers
Week 32: 654,000 viewers
Week 33: 701,000 viewers
Week 34: 827,000 viewers
Week 35: 730,000 viewers
Week 36: 677,000 viewers
Week 37: 772,000 viewers
Week 38: 633,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 39: 748,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 40: 715,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 41: 788,000 viewers
Week 42: 845,000 viewers
NXT promised a big announcement and then announced a tournament to enter a ladder match to win the mid card belt.
aew had Eddie fucking Kingston vs Cody in a slugfest on at the same time.
To be fair AEW didn’t really deliver on their big announcement either. Cage gets a Taz replica belt and taps out. I like both products but at the end of the day barring anything huge like title vs title, AEW has the bigger audience and NXT can always be watched back.
Massive number for them. Kingston was awesome. This show went by so quickly it was nuts.
huh? That was week’s ago. NXT counter-programed Cody’s TNT title match by teasing a lame announcement.
They were both lame announcements. Just saying I don’t think NXT’s lame announcement was that big of a factor in this shift. This isn’t a preference point on either product but I think generally AEW always have a more stable audience with more accessibility. NXT did big numbers with Lee vs Cole but will always be harder for them to maintain. Thanks to the network, NXT can always be watched back.
but I’m specifically speaking on this week. AEW had the Cody match to start and NXT counter-programmed with a lame announcement. One show hooked the fans in and the other disappointed off the bat.
i also enjoyed Taz giving Cage the FTW title. I was happy to see the old belt and Taz’s promo was fantastic.
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