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    Big Swole needs more time in whatever developmental system AEW has.

    She wants to be Bianca Belaire so bad it hurts. But in the ring she just can't pull it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    I'm not making fun, but given her voice, you can totally tell Nyla Rose is trans.

    She doesn't have a female voice. She sounds like a man trying to sound like a woman.
    ffs. no. there are plenty of women that don't sound stereo-typically feminine. what the fuck is wrong with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    ffs. no. there are plenty of women that don't sound stereo-typically feminine. what the fuck is wrong with you.
    Its probably a little bit of confirmation bias, but I feel like with Nyla, you can hear it very specifically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Its probably a little bit of confirmation bias, but I feel like with Nyla, you can hear it very specifically.
    What are you doing right now? Like, what's the point of bringing this up? All you're doing is underlining that you're still very hung up on the fact that she's trans despite insisting you're not transphobic...

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    A fan in the front row is dressed as Scooby Doo. What the fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    What are you doing right now? Like, what's the point of bringing this up? All you're doing is underlining that you're still very hung up on the fact that she's trans despite insisting you're not transphobic...
    I'm watching the program, listening to her promo, and making an observation.

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    Nice debut for Jeff, I guess? Ehh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    I'm watching the program, listening to her promo, and making an observation.
    Bro, you said you'd stop this though.

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    Why do they just wait there like idiots for him to skateboard down to the ring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    I'm watching the program, listening to her promo, and making an observation.
    yeah really i don't see what's objectionable about it. it's not a charitable observation but wrestlers get uncharitable observations made about all of their characteristics all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    A fan in the front row is dressed as Scooby Doo. What the fuck.
    He was there last week as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Nice debut for Jeff, I guess? Ehh.

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    Bro, you said you'd stop this though.
    I'm sorry I brought it up.

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    At least Jeff Cobb got a good match out of his debut. He threw Mox around like a sack of spudz... err.. spuds, and Mox only caught him by barely hooking him up and cinching in a pin, after he got suplexed off the top. Cobb still looks like a beast and Mox just looks wily and/or lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer-Belly View Post
    He was there last week as well.
    Scooby-Doo and AEW Jesus should have been in the tag-team battle royal earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Scooby-Doo and AEW Jesus should have been in the tag-team battle royal earlier.
    They both got in the ring after the show went off the air last week. Both Jesus and Scooby pinned QT Marshall or Brandon Cutler.

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    There's something about Kenny Omega that makes him look so bored and unsure of himself when he's out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Why do they just wait there like idiots for him to skateboard down to the ring?
    what is the benefit of rushing up the ramp to him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    what is the benefit of rushing up the ramp to him?
    To beat the shit out of him before he beats the shit out of them with his skateboard.

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    That was about a 45-second long "10 seconds".

    Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    To beat the shit out of him before he beats the shit out of them with his skateboard.
    Skateboard or not, 4 guys, especially with two dudes the size of Jeff Cobb and Jake Hager should be able to murder Darby Allin. Its wrestling. Logic doesn't always have a place here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    To beat the shit out of him before he beats the shit out of them with his skateboard.
    no, that's the intent, what is the benefit of rushing instead of waiting? you funnel yourselves up a ramp to a guy who has higher ground instead of waiting for the guy to come down and have to make himself vulnerable in some way in order to enter the ring, which allows them to attack and get shots in before he can do the same to them. there's literally no tactical advantage to rushing him.

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    I don't care how, why, where, or when - I want an Adam Page vs. Jeff Cobb match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    To beat the shit out of him before he beats the shit out of them with his skateboard.
    Why would they leave the ring and let Mox and Dustin recover? In the ring they could at least keep an eye on them while they attempt gang up on Darby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    no, that's the intent, what is the benefit of rushing instead of waiting? you funnel yourselves up a ramp to a guy who has higher ground instead of waiting for the guy to come down and have to make himself vulnerable in some way in order to enter the ring, which allows them to attack and get shots in before he can do the same to them. there's literally no tactical advantage to rushing him.
    The high ground? I take it all back. You're right.



    Quote Originally Posted by Beer-Belly View Post
    Why would they leave the ring and let Mox and Dustin recover? In the ring they could at least keep an eye on them while they attempt gang up on Darby.
    They had them all laying. So they could swarm Darby and stomp him to oblivion and head to the back just in time for some bubbley.

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    There's a dude in the front row wearing an Enzo and Cass shirt.

    Somehow, that's more embarrassing than dressing like Scooby-Doo.

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    how they gonna go to commercial on hangman drinking beer

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    I've seen one Wardlow match in my entire life.

    And it was a pretty poor match against MOOSE... MOOSE... at some crappy indie show.

    Definitely keeping an open mind for tonight.

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    hoping for some BLOOD

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    Only pinfall or submission? No climbing out for the win?

    Edit: only 15 minutes left on the show... seems like this will be a short match

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    What's Arn Anderson got in his hand, a wrestling chart?

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    Man, imagine if we got some TV Blood....

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    We've got a GUSHER ​here, people.

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    BLOOD

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    HOLY SHIT!!!

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    That was really good. Wardlow was much better than I expected.

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    Great finish by Cody. Wardlow also did well in his debut match. Awesome main event!

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    Give Wardlow a metric fuckton of credit for that, too. He was right there to catch him. Half an inch off and Cody would be wheeling himself into Revolution in a nice, shiny new wheelchair.

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    Cody looked like Mistico flying into bolivian.

    Thanks for the blood alert guys.

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    the whole presentation of that was great. felt more like a BIG MATCH than any WWE match i can remember in years.

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    Holy shit, the whole show tonight was super fun.

    I almost wish this weekend was Revolution. Next week's Dynamite feels like a lame duck episode.

    - Super fun battle royal. Every team got a time to shine and got to get there shit in. For the sake of having a great pay-per-view match, the right team won.

    - Kris Statlander shook off her Sophomore slump and had a solid match. Good for her. Her vs. Nyla is certainly a way to go.

    - The tag-team title match was super fun. They just need to figure out that "10 seconds" doesn't mean "45 seconds, but the ref only starts counting guys down after 35 seconds". Maybe AEW could just make a decision to say, if there's a tag-team match, all four guys can be in the ring for 1 minute, as long as the two legal guys are wrestling each other. If they begin double-teaming, then the ref starts his count. That way, they could contrive a reason why all four dudes are allowed in the ring together, at any given time.

    - Jon Moxley vs. Jeff Cobb was fun as Hell. Cobb looked like a wild ass beast tossing Mox around like a pizza dough, before you put the toppings on. Mox just got lucky and it was a fun finish. Sort of felt proper old-school "NWA".

    - That cage match was great. Wardlow is a shockingly solid big guy. And blood. So oddly refreshing to see blood in wrestling again. And holy fuck that finish. Cody's moonsaults haven't always been fantastic, but he hit that shit spot on.

    I'm pumped for Revolution. I don't know about you guys.

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    Good alteration to the tag team battle royal, making it to where it was required that both tag team members had to be thrown over in order to be eliminated. There was definitely a desire to get a lot of stuff in while all of the teams were involved. Made it kind of hard for everything to get seen but that's the give and take that goes on in that kind of scenario. The right team won, obviously, and sets the stage for what should be a good tag title match at Revolution.

    Ross didn't give a shit about the alien gimmick for Statlander, which was pretty humorous. Probably not ideal from a continuity standpoint but JR is going to call it like he sees it, for better or for worse. At least the match itself was a step in the right direction for the division.

    With the fact that Cobb isn't officially inked, according to most or all reports, it makes sense that this was a good one-week experiment with attempts to get different talent from other promotions on broadcasts. It did present a nice short-term roadblock for Moxley and helped continue the idea of building momentum for him towards the title match. Feel like there's way more meat on the bone with Moxley and Allin having potential for an alliance but they're nearly out of time when it comes to Revolution. It didn't make a lot of sense for why Tazz suddenly did commentary for the match.

    Unless it's the norm for title matches, it didn't make a lick of sense as to why there was a 60-minute time limit for the tag title match. If they went the full 60, the show would have been over and there wouldn't be a winner...and the much-hyped cage match never would have made it to air, lol. As for the match, it was bonkers and entertaining, as expected.

    The reveal of the action figures was pretty cool.

    It still makes me laugh that they're going with the coach approach for Arn, even equipped with the laminated colored play sheet. Doesn't make any sense for him to have that based on what wrestling is, but it is good commitment to the bit. Very good first showing for Wardlow. That really could have been a disaster but he was more than up holding up his end of the match. In addition, he was where he needed to be for the moonsault spot and took that like a champ. Another good all around performance by Cody. He had a heck of a promo after Dynamite went off the air, too.

    One big advantage AEW has versus its Wednesday night counterpart is the atmosphere. Full Sail had a dud of a night, and AEW always does well in that regard. You're not going to get a Portland Takeover crowd every week with NXT but the difference is rather noticeable. It was on display in a big way this week.

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    Damn, another great show! They've been building up so much momentum these past couple weeks. The closer we get to the PPV, the more important it feels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    the whole presentation of that was great. felt more like a BIG MATCH than any WWE match i can remember in years.
    Surely you just mean on the TV shows? WWE has had several big match PPVs in recent years

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    Not really

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    In honor of Sammy G's decimation at Revolution:


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    Next day thoughts on Dynamite:

    The no sell on Raven being in the crowd was probably a good gag to run. I doubt it actually leads into anything substantial going forward, but it was good.

    I liked the comfort Rose showed with the promo. It felt a little forced in the sense of trying to get hive over but I thought it was an effective promo.

    Will be interesting to see how they continue to chart the course for Omega and Hangman. Seemed destined that Hangman was going to be the man to turn but there's too much found money with him now and Omega clearly has the ability to play a heel in him so there's a variety of ways they can go...which is ideal.

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    Another outstanding show from AEW last night. They're really getting good at doing wrestling on TV.

    - Battle Royal was a great opener that featured a number of stories and the right team winning. I didn't notice Raven the first time, only after reading online, but that was a cool little thing to do. Big hint or red herring? Was good to see the Butcher getting some shine here. I was well into the stare down and exchange with Luchasaurus. Still want more big boys in this promotion. Orange Cassidy saving Trent was terrific as it came out of nowhere and the superkick to Sammy was absolutely nuts. We'll be seeing that over and over in packages I'm sure.
    - One of the better women's matches in AEW so far and Stadtlander is back to looking like a player.
    - Nyla Rose got a good reaction. Funny how no one seemed to give a shit about her being transgender until she actually won the title. Anyway the internet chatter has likely only helped her career. I thought she did well on the microphone there. Not sure about Spudz' comparison of Big Swole with Bianca Belair. Yes she is a black woman but her mannerisms seem wildly different.
    - The crowd singing along to Judas after the music stops is becoming my new favourite thing. Sammy rocking out was class. Tazz on commentary for this one - interesting as Cobb feels like a modern day Tazz in many ways. This was good and the right call for Mox to win even though Cobb losing his first AEW match seems wrong. He should go on a tear now, make an angle out of Jericho holding him down and then have him turn on him imo.
    - Darby feels like such a star. AEW's Sting. They've done a great job with his presentation.
    - That tag title match was a blast. All four guys are particularly engaging so at no point did I tune out like I have with other flashy AEW tag matches.
    - Cage match was really just perfect. Big match feel. The cage looked great. Super tall and imposing with that structure along the corners and top. Dangerous looking with that gap between the ring and the cage (and really probably is so I wonder if that changes). Pretty sure it's the first Wardlow match I've seen and he looked great chucking Cody around (and that swanton out of nowhere!). The spot with Arn teasing smashing the door into Cody before hitting MJF was great too. Cody bled all over the place and then the moonsault from the top was just nuts.

    If I hadn't seen any of the TV building up to Revolution and you'd shown me the card for the show, I probably wouldn't be that interested. But having seen the great build, I can't wait. I'd still like some more additions to the roster, especially in the women's division and the style of wrestling prevalent on the show really isn't my favourite but the booking and presentation of the shows has been on point and it really can't be overstated how much better than WWE they are right now at making guys look like stars.

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    I feel the same way about Hangman Page as I do Adam Cole. They're almost twins. The way they look, the way they work, promos, event their names have the same amount of letters. And I've always disliked Page going back to his early ROH days coming out wearing a John Deere hat. He's just not for me.

    Orange Cassidy on the other hand......Magical.

    I'm all about some AEW action figures. They looked pretty sweet when I had a closer look at them on Ringside's IG page.

    Honest question about Cody......If you took how he books himself in AEW, could that have worked at the top tier level in WWE for him? I think so. I think right now we're seeing what we saw with Christian in TNA. Given the chance, they can deliver at the top. Cody unfortunately just didn't have the time to wait around for his turn and had to get out and it paid off.

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    I used to feel the same way about Page. In ROH... in New Japan. Did absolutely nothing for me, even though you could tell he had solid fundamentals. But that's all changed with the way he's gotten over on Dynamite recently. He's got personality now and comes across like a star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
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    - Nyla Rose got a good reaction. Funny how no one seemed to give a shit about her being transgender until she actually won the title.
    They did, it just blew up even more when AEW actually gave her the title. Which I don't see how that was a shock when AEW has what, 4 women on the roster that are actual wrestlers? Kong just left, the bald chick is MIA, so that leaves us with Bianca 2.0, Karolina from The Runaways (not as hot but that's the vibe I get when I see her lol), Nyla, and Riho. Not sure if anyone else is signed.

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    One more thing I forgot: The kick to Guevara when he ran in during the battle royal was epic. It looked like instant death. Great...but I didn't like the fact he was right back at it, happy and chill as hell when he came out with Hager and Jericho for Cobb's match. I mean, it made sense as to why he needed to be there, but it took some heat away from the brutal kick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post

    Honest question about Cody......If you took how he books himself in AEW, could that have worked at the top tier level in WWE for him? I think so. I think right now we're seeing what we saw with Christian in TNA. Given the chance, they can deliver at the top. Cody unfortunately just didn't have the time to wait around for his turn and had to get out and it paid off.
    It'd be really hard to screw it up. WWE is not good at consistently booking faces so if you take that issue away and have Cody booked this way, it would click. This is an instance where commentary or ancillary storytelling could enhance him. Think of how he's booked and how they will hit you over the head with legacy and lineage if you have it (Cena, Orton, Triple H, Flair, etc.). I'm not saying Cody is on that tier but those guys have a legacy that can be retold in a simple two-three sentence outline by a commentator and it just adds more context.

    For what happened, I don't think Cody was going to get his turn. Either that, or he didn't believe he was. I think he needed the rejection to recharge and get the hunger elevated, like McIntyre.

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    Apparently Shanna, Sadie Gibbs, Mel, Rose, Shida, Swole, Britt, Priestley, Sakura and Statlander are all signed to contracts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    One more thing I forgot: The kick to Guevara when he ran in during the battle royal was epic. It looked like instant death. Great...but I didn't like the fact he was right back at it, happy and chill as hell when he came out with Hager and Jericho for Cobb's match. I mean, it made sense as to why he needed to be there, but it took some heat away from the brutal kick.



    It'd be really hard to screw it up. WWE is not good at consistently booking faces so if you take that issue away and have Cody booked this way, it would click. This is an instance where commentary or ancillary storytelling could enhance him. Think of how he's booked and how they will hit you over the head with legacy and lineage if you have it (Cena, Orton, Triple H, Flair, etc.). I'm not saying Cody is on that tier but those guys have a legacy that can be retold in a simple two-three sentence outline by a commentator and it just adds more context.

    For what happened, I don't think Cody was going to get his turn. Either that, or he didn't believe he was.

    Part of me thinks a lot of his fame comes at the expense of him leaving. That'd be the only missing element so it would have be replaced with something similar. He would have to come out and basically CM Punk pipe bomb the company. Talk about his start and stop pushes, the Stardust gimmick, talk about Vince trying to sabotage his father and brother and how it backfired and they made it work blah blah blah.

    But I do think that Cody realized he's in his prime, everyone comes back anyway to the WWE if all else fails. It'll be interesting if we ever see a Rhodes under the WWE banner again. So yeah right now in the company he's in, he's killing it and I think that the WWE may have missed the boat on a solid talent like Cody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Apparently Shanna, Sadie Gibbs, Mel, Rose, Shida, Swole, Britt, Priestley, Sakura and Statlander are all signed to contracts.
    So 10 women, not bad at all. They just need to showcase them more. I've watched all but 1 episode of Dynamite and I can tell you most of those women are not featured enough to make me think they were going to be ahead of Nyla Rose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Part of me thinks a lot of his fame comes at the expense of him leaving. That'd be the only missing element so it would have be replaced with something similar. He would have to come out and basically CM Punk pipe bomb the company. Talk about his start and stop pushes, the Stardust gimmick, talk about Vince trying to sabotage his father and brother and how it backfired and they made it work blah blah blah.

    But I do think that Cody realized he's in his prime, everyone comes back anyway to the WWE if all else fails. It'll be interesting if we ever see a Rhodes under the WWE banner again. So yeah right now in the company he's in, he's killing it and I think that the WWE may have missed the boat on a solid talent like Cody.
    He had skins on the wall prior to leaving, had compelling characters (that were radically different from each other), had a pretty standout or hallmark-like tag match with his brother. A lot of the boxes were being checked but they didn't go all the way with him. There was a barrier, which seemed like it came from Vince and Triple H just seeing him as Dusty's son and not as Cody. He was angry and humbled after that, and went down the road of just using it as a freeing and motivating experience. You can say he latched on to the Bullet Club prestige over time but he's definitely a guy with a mind for the business that I think he would have found a way to be successful in some form or fashion without attaching himself to that.

    As to what he would have had to do or say when he came back, I guess he could do that. It's a easy hook. I think McIntyre now is showing that you don't necessary need to use angst to tell a redemption story. That's not to say you presumed idea is bad. I just think there's enough there to where they could go a lot of different ways.

    If you had Cody as is and booked as is in WWE, you'd have a hell of a versatile star.

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    You'll see Cody back in the WWE again. probably not as an active wrestler, but something like Kurt Angle when he came back a couple of years ago. I think in 10-15 years AEW will cease to exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    He had skins on the wall prior to leaving, had compelling characters (that were radically different from each other), had a pretty standout or hallmark-like tag match with his brother. A lot of the boxes were being checked but they didn't go all the way with him. There was a barrier, which seemed like it came from Vince and Triple H just seeing him as Dusty's son and not as Cody. He was angry and humbled after that, and went down the road of just using it as a freeing and motivating experience. You can say he latched on to the Bullet Club prestige over time but he's definitely a guy with a mind for the business that I think he would have found a way to be successful in some form or fashion without attaching himself to that.

    As to what he would have had to do or say when he came back, I guess he could do that. It's a easy hook. I think McIntyre now is showing that you don't necessary need to use angst to tell a redemption story. That's not to say you presumed idea is bad. I just think there's enough there to where they could go a lot of different ways.


    If you had Cody as is and booked as is in WWE, you'd have a hell of a versatile star.
    No not "come back" but "come out" meaning, since he was Stardust prior to leaving....He'd have to come out on stage, maybe do what Dustin did to the Goldust robe by burning it in the trash on stage or whatever.....Then just drop a pipe bomb about being held back, given weird gimmicks and looks like his dad and brother before him. Shit they wouldn't even have to really go that route BUT in terms of the character he has NOW, they would have to show some angst, frustration, etc because like I said I think what really has helped him is this quest to show he could have been a major player for the WWE had they given him the chance.

    But he had a lot going against him. A lot of people in front of him and maybe they figured since he was so young he had plenty of time to elevate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    No not "come back" but "come out" meaning, since he was Stardust prior to leaving....He'd have to come out on stage, maybe do what Dustin did to the Goldust robe by burning it in the trash on stage or whatever.....Then just drop a pipe bomb about being held back, given weird gimmicks and looks like his dad and brother before him. Shit they wouldn't even have to really go that route BUT in terms of the character he has NOW, they would have to show some angst, frustration, etc because like I said I think what really has helped him is this quest to show he could have been a major player for the WWE had they given him the chance.

    But he had a lot going against him. A lot of people in front of him and maybe they figured since he was so young he had plenty of time to elevate.
    Gotcha. I misunderstood.

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    Raven as the Exhaulted One would work tremendously even if it had the whole "Raven's Nest" vibe. He's not going to wrestle, and he cuts promos better than anyone in wrestling.

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    Since they love the 90s, what with DDP, Arn Anderson, Goldust, Schiavone, and Jericho running around, Raven would fit right in. I'm hoping it's someone we've never seen before though, to be honest.

    I jest of course about the 90s. Not sure who it's going to be, but I think the tease of Matt Hardy is going to be a swerve and he's going to stay with WWE>
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    Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    I'm watching the program, listening to her promo, and making an observation.
    I'll make an observation about that segment.

    How about when Big Smo called Nia Rose "brother"? I don't see enough of Big Smo to know if that's her thing (what up with the pumping herself up bullshit?) but I heard that and I was like, oh shit there goes someone's push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Next day thoughts on Dynamite:

    The no sell on Raven being in the crowd was probably a good gag to run. I doubt it actually leads into anything substantial going forward, but it was good.

    I liked the comfort Rose showed with the promo. It felt a little forced in the sense of trying to get hive over but I thought it was an effective promo.

    Will be interesting to see how they continue to chart the course for Omega and Hangman. Seemed destined that Hangman was going to be the man to turn but there's too much found money with him now and Omega clearly has the ability to play a heel in him so there's a variety of ways they can go...which is ideal.
    I've been wondering if the Bucks should be the ones to turn heel. Then I was reminded how over they are in the Battle Royal, so that's not going to happen. An Omega heel turn would be interesting. He could be pretty cocky in New Japan, so if he played that up it could work. They don't have too many top heels, Just Jericho, MJF, and Pac, so another one wouldn't hurt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I feel the same way about Hangman Page as I do Adam Cole. They're almost twins. The way they look, the way they work, promos, event their names have the same amount of letters. And I've always disliked Page going back to his early ROH days coming out wearing a John Deere hat. He's just not for me.

    Orange Cassidy on the other hand......Magical.

    I'm all about some AEW action figures. They looked pretty sweet when I had a closer look at them on Ringside's IG page.

    Honest question about Cody......If you took how he books himself in AEW, could that have worked at the top tier level in WWE for him? I think so. I think right now we're seeing what we saw with Christian in TNA. Given the chance, they can deliver at the top. Cody unfortunately just didn't have the time to wait around for his turn and had to get out and it paid off.
    I think this version of Cody could have worked in WWE, but not as effectively. I don't know if he'd even have gotten to this point if he'd never left. The reason he works so well is the bigger story that's being told. Cody felt underappreciated in WWE and left to find himself. He found allies along the way and is now trying to create a true competitor to WWE. This is the ultimate underdog story and fans want him to succeed. On top of that, he's carrying on his family's legacy which adds to his overall mystique. We just wouldn't see this depth of character in the confines of WWE's overly scripted and micro-managed environment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    I used to feel the same way about Page. In ROH... in New Japan. Did absolutely nothing for me, even though you could tell he had solid fundamentals. But that's all changed with the way he's gotten over on Dynamite recently. He's got personality now and comes across like a star.
    It wasn't until the last two episodes of Dynamite that I started to see what others saw in Page and he's slowly growing on me. Hangman Page was pretty meh, but Cowboy Page has potential. Maybe he just needed a new nickname to put the final piece together, lol.

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    I definitely wouldn't go as far as saying that Page comes across like a star. Ok maybe in AEW where they have a handful of "stars" so he stands out, but changing your nickname to one of the oldest, lamest nicknames in wrestling (COWBOY????) and sharing beers with the crowd for a cheap cheap pop doesn't scream STAR.

    But that's just me. I think the guy gets praised based on affiliation more than anything. He must be good if he's part of "The Elite/Bullet Club" right? Even my best friend who is a big wrestling fan but doesn't know a lot about the entire AEW roster seems to be a fan as well. But he also never saw him prior to AEW in Ring of Honor or New Japan.

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    I don't know if it really matters but everything I read or heard in relation to the rest of The Elite and Page was that the other members were saying he was singled out and was the prospect of the group. They thought he was young and promising so I don't think he's supposed to be seen as a finished product in terms of where the ceiling is for his notoriety but that they see something in him that's going to click.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I don't know if it really matters but everything I read or heard in relation to the rest of The Elite and Page was that the other members were saying he was singled out and was the prospect of the group. They thought he was young and promising so I don't think he's supposed to be seen as a finished product in terms of where the ceiling is for his notoriety but that they see something in him that's going to click.
    It probably doesn't help for someone like me who wasn't sold one bit on him prior to AEW that he found himself in the main event for the inaugural World title match against Chris Jericho of all people. That was a little too "Jinder-ish" booking for me. At least he didn't win, but putting him in that position when he clearly wasn't ready to stand on his own at that level did him no favors at all.

    And again like I said, the affiliation with those guys I think puts him in a different light than if he was on his own. He's been in the game for 12 years so idk how much longer someone can be a "prospect" but given the circumstances of AEW being new and finally giving this kid some room to be something other than a background character could work wonders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    It probably doesn't help for someone like me who wasn't sold one bit on him prior to AEW that he found himself in the main event for the inaugural World title match against Chris Jericho of all people. That was a little too "Jinder-ish" booking for me. At least he didn't win, but putting him in that position when he clearly wasn't ready to stand on his own at that level did him no favors at all.

    And again like I said, the affiliation with those guys I think puts him in a different light than if he was on his own. He's been in the game for 12 years so idk how much longer someone can be a "prospect" but given the circumstances of AEW being new and finally giving this kid some room to be something other than a background character could work wonders.
    I can't speak to any of the ROH stuff but I saw some incremental improvements with him in NJPW. Working the G-1 is either going to help you improve in different facets or you're going to be a bust. I wouldn't say he had a breakout like Archer did but he made some headway.

    I don't hate the idea they presented with him being the first challenger and I never really expected him to win. They played off the fact he was in the spotlight and lost and kind of started to spiral out because of it. It's just transitioned into a way that is endearing to the audience now.

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    I liked the main event, would of preferred it to be climb out or pinfall but whatever it was a fun match and that moonsault was crazy, Cody didnt even look back before jumping.

    Oh and that superkick! Im not sure how Guevaro is still walking.

    I want more of Luchasaurus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    He had skins on the wall prior to leaving, had compelling characters (that were radically different from each other), had a pretty standout or hallmark-like tag match with his brother. A lot of the boxes were being checked but they didn't go all the way with him. There was a barrier, which seemed like it came from Vince and Triple H just seeing him as Dusty's son and not as Cody. He was angry and humbled after that, and went down the road of just using it as a freeing and motivating experience. You can say he latched on to the Bullet Club prestige over time but he's definitely a guy with a mind for the business that I think he would have found a way to be successful in some form or fashion without attaching himself to that.

    As to what he would have had to do or say when he came back, I guess he could do that. It's a easy hook. I think McIntyre now is showing that you don't necessary need to use angst to tell a redemption story. That's not to say you presumed idea is bad. I just think there's enough there to where they could go a lot of different ways.

    If you had Cody as is and booked as is in WWE, you'd have a hell of a versatile star.
    I'd leave his useless wife at home though.

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    Brandi Rhodes is arguably the most beautiful woman in all of pro wrestling today. ARGUABLY as Io Shirai is in the argument for me. If she's useless then so were Miss Elizabeth, Sunny, Sable, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    "I want a piece of your ass."

    In another time, another place, that line would have meant something completely different for that guy.
    Is this a US/UK thing? As in, whenever I hear that line, it sounds super gay to me. Genuinely sounds like the guy saying it wants sex.

    Always remember cringing when they'd replay it over and over when Steve Austin 'wanted a piece of Mike Tyson's ass'.

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    It’s kind of an either/or thing in the US. Means both, just depends on context.

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    When you say "I want a piece of YOUR ass" That's usually implying wanting to beat someone down.

    When you say "I want a piece of THAT ass" That's implying you want to fuck. Subtle but realistically could change your life.

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    Does AEW do house shows? Or is it just the one day a week tapings?

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    no house shows. only tv tapings and ppv's, though they did do two special events last summer, fyter fest and fight for the fallen.

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    Sounds like a pretty good deal, better than WWE at least, though I read a report that WWE is cutting back on house shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Sounds like a pretty good deal, better than WWE at least, though I read a report that WWE is cutting back on house shows.
    If you don't like being out on the road, perhaps.

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    And I think everyone but maybe Cody works for other promotions as it is so technically their house shows are like "British Pro Xtreme" or "House of 1,000 Suplexes"

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    Surprised there's not much backlash over Jericho vs. Moxley, two ex WWE guys. Do you think AEW should have a relatively uknown talent in Moxley's position? Could have done a world of wonders if they were booked in similar fashion.

    I assume Moxley wins and MJF wins, leading to a Moxley vs. MJF program?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Surprised there's not much backlash over Jericho vs. Moxley, two ex WWE guys. Do you think AEW should have a relatively uknown talent in Moxley's position? Could have done a world of wonders if they were booked in similar fashion.

    I assume Moxley wins and MJF wins, leading to a Moxley vs. MJF program?
    Why would there be backlash? This isn't the first instance of two former WWE guys involved in the title picture since AEW came into the picture. Two WWE guys didn't go at it in the inaugural championship match, and Jericho has defended the title more than once against non former-WWE acts already.

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    Thought it was only Cody. Just figured if they want to be an alternate to WWE maybe not having WWE guys in the main event might help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Surprised there's not much backlash over Jericho vs. Moxley, two ex WWE guys. Do you think AEW should have a relatively uknown talent in Moxley's position? Could have done a world of wonders if they were booked in similar fashion.

    I assume Moxley wins and MJF wins, leading to a Moxley vs. MJF program?
    Its funny, of all the things AEW doesn't do right, the one thing they've done right is the Moxley/Jericho feud. They've done it better than WWE.

    Its a rehash, but its not a lazy rehash. Its a rehash that's actually better than the original.

    And funny enough, MJF doing the "kiss my ring" thing with the AEW Diamond Ring is the exact gimmick Cody Rhodes had in Ring Of Honor for a while.

    There's nothing new in pro-wrestling. But there's always ways to improve and iterate on what's been done before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Thought it was only Cody. Just figured if they want to be an alternate to WWE maybe not having WWE guys in the main event might help
    that's not what 'being an alternative' is about.

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    To be real, Jericho and Moxley are totally new characters in AEW. Unneutered, revamped, unparalleled. Reborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    that's not what 'being an alternative' is about.
    I have a feeling he's being obtuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Surprised there's not much backlash over Jericho vs. Moxley, two ex WWE guys. Do you think AEW should have a relatively uknown talent in Moxley's position? Could have done a world of wonders if they were booked in similar fashion.

    I assume Moxley wins and MJF wins, leading to a Moxley vs. MJF program?
    Pushing the most recognizable talent is the right thing to do. It gets eyes on the product so fans can discover the newer guys as they're getting built up. Moxley works in that spot because everyone knows who he is and it feels like a big deal when he's on TV. You wouldn't get that with a complete unknown.

    I'm expecting Jericho to retain. He and the Inner Circle have put Moxley through the ringer over the past month. John's got one good eye and his ribs are all busted up, so he'll be protected when he loses. We could see a couple more matches between the two of them culminating in Moxley eventually getting the win.

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    Guess I'm not involved enough in the product to recognize major differences.

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    I have to say I'm actually surprised yet thankful that AEW hasn't relied solely on former WWE talent. But people also have to realize, there are a lot of former WWE wrestlers out there in some form. Hard to escape that fact when WWE have really been the only big promotion in damn near 20 years. It's like slighting the XFL for signing former NFL talent.

    There are some fans who are playing a waiting game, to see if AEW starts to get super stale or suck balls but you're going to have to wait for a bit before you can really assess the promotion. Right now I'm digging it. But I'm also a huge WRESTLING fan. I can watch pretty much any promotion no matter how shitty they are.

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    It's a good time to be a wrestling fan, with so much talent all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Surprised there's not much backlash over Jericho vs. Moxley, two ex WWE guys. Do you think AEW should have a relatively uknown talent in Moxley's position? Could have done a world of wonders if they were booked in similar fashion.

    I assume Moxley wins and MJF wins, leading to a Moxley vs. MJF program?
    This is a dumb post on a number of levels. Both Jericho and Moxley have been made to look like bigger stars than they had been in WWE and their programme in AEW has been booked really well. It was absolutely the right move to sign both and it's the right move to have them at the top of the card. There have been other AEW main events and there will be more. Kenny Omega, Adam Page and the Young Bucks have all headlined and none of them made their names in WWE. The likes of Darby Allin, Sammy Guevara and Jungle Boy have been earmarked as the future and they'll almost certainly be headlining shows in the future. Most wrestlers of any value have been with WWE at one point or another and actually looking at the roster I'd say that AEW has less former WWE talent than one might expect.

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    Well then I'm just one dumb idiot then aren't I.

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    I don't see anything DUMB in the post. The reality is there are a lot of people on social media out there and I'm sure plenty are saying "Oh a WWE rehash blah blah blah" but it's all good. The feud has a different approach but it's good and I thought their feud in the WWE was good. See, we have yet to see these 2 wrestle again. I didn't think their matches in WWE were anything special, but the non-wrestling stuff was awesome.

    It's like back in the day with WCW. Some fans were shitting on them when they'd do Hogan v. Savage, even though in this realm Hogan was the bad guy so it was a different take on what WWF had done 6-7 years prior. Or even Flair v. Savage. But if a rivalry is good, no 1 promotion owns that rivalry imo.

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    It was a dumb and obtuse post, @Nash Diesel.

    Should be a good episode tonight with it being the go home show. Remember when go home shows got you amped up for a PPV? Like, really amped up? I miss those days. Let's hope AEW can do that shit again.

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    I'm looking to see if they start to plant subtle seeds that Omega and/or The Bucks are the ones to turn, if someone is turning, in the story with Page. I think you've seen enough with Page to suggest having him be the main protagonist is a worthwhile venture. Could be the rare scenario where eventually Omega and Page lose the titles and Page is figuratively says he really needs to break away in order to find himself and everyone remains a face but that seems unlikely.

    I also want to see if MJF is presented as more upset or angry that the fact the the match with Cody is actually now going to happen. I mean, he put all the obstacles in front of Cody and Cody has the wind behind him and is charging towards MJF. I think creatively adding some heat behind MJF is the way to go tonight in regards to this weekend.

    Should be telling in some ways tonight with Moxley and Jericho if they're ready to pull the trigger. I don't really see anyone outside of Moxley who fits as a challenger for Jericho and you run the risk of taking the steam off Moxley if he loses after he's gone through so much in the last few weeks.

    Matt Hardy did a hell of a job laying it in, in regards to teasing his next move as he referred to Randy Orton as Dear Dr. RKO...which is an anagram for Dark Order
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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I'm looking to see if they start to plant subtle seeds that Omega and/or The Bucks are the ones to turn, if someone is turning, in the story with Page. I think you've seen enough with Page to suggest having him be the main protagonist is a worthwhile venture. Could be the rare scenario where eventually Omega and Page lose the titles and Page is figuratively says he really needs to break away in order to find himself and everyone remains a face but that seems unlikely.

    I also want to see if MJF is presented as more upset or angry that the fact the the match with Cody is actually now going to happen. I mean, he put all the obstacles in front of Cody and Cody has the wind behind him and is charging towards MJF. I think creatively adding some heat behind MJF is the way to go tonight in regards to this weekend.

    Should be telling in some ways tonight with Moxley and Jericho if they're ready to pull the trigger. I don't really see anyone outside of Moxley who fits as a challenger for Jericho and you run the risk of taking the steam off Moxley if he loses after he's gone through so much in the last few weeks.

    Matt Hardy did a hell of a job laying it in, in regards to teasing his next move as he referred to Randy Orton as Dear Dr. RKO...which is an anagram for Dark Order
    Very clever.

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    I think that while Jericho is a beast right now, Moxley is on the same level. These are easily AEW 2 top stars both in terms of the public perception and the booking. I say give the title to Moxley. Other than Mox the only other babyface that should be getting the title would be Cody but he kind of booked himself into a corner early on with the whole "I'll never challenge for the title again" bullshit. Which I'm going to assume was done due to the fans coming at AEW pretty strong for some stupid reason about Cody being in that title match. "Oh Cody is going to put the belt on himself!" Next thing you know you have the stip. Nonsense.

    So yeah, let's get the strap on Moxley. He's going to be someone you can have compete against heels and babyfaces, just like when he was champ in WWE. One nice thing about a guy like Cena or Austin was that you could have a ppv or a tv show with the babyface champ v. another babyface and it made sense. In AEW it's even easier if they stick to rankings.

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    You know Cody is going to become a champion at some point though, how exactly do they reverse his never challenge again stipulation? Perhaps become a heel and go against his word?

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    Lance Archer to AEW confirmed by the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    You know Cody is going to become a champion at some point though, how exactly do they reverse his never challenge again stipulation? Perhaps become a heel and go against his word?
    They always find a way out of that stipulation. He'll turn heel and be all "I'm an executive of this company I will do what I want" and boom here comes Russo Khan to get his tv role lol.



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    If he can deliver like he did at the G1 I'm all for it. If he's going to be the same mediocre wrestler he's been since the days of Dallas Hoyt.....meh.

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