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    WWE Monday Night RAW (Road to Stomping Grounds) June 10th, 2019



    WELCOME TO



    TONIGHT!

















    SETH BLOW



    Lesnar tried to cash in his money in the bank briefcase in Jedda, only to be met with a vicious uppercut to the groin. Is Lesnar already regretting his decision to delay his cash in, as Seth proves someone not to be messed with?














    STILL THE BEST



    In the WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD. Who's ready for a celebration?











    SAMOA JOE ON MIZ TV



    Could Miz be eyeing the US Championship?










    REMATCH AT STOMPING GROUNDS



    In two weeks, The Man and The Lady will do battle once more, can Becky hold onto the gold?










    TITLE REMATCH TONIGHT



    While their strategy of holding onto the tag titles by avoiding cameras at all costs has proved fruitful thus far, Ryder and Hawkins won't be able to escape being on television tonight when they face off against The Revival. Could this end in major defeat?








    THE ENDURING TRUTH



    No matter how stacked the odds are against him, R-Truth seems to always find a way to leave with his championship. Can Truth continue to be the iron man of this division?
































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    I am looking forward to MizTv, and perhaps a no-decision on the tag-title match tonight.

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    WWE Logic: The Usos beat The Revival clean on Friday and instead give The Revival a tag-team title shot..............

    Honestly I have zero desire to watch Raw. I don't really care about a single storyline other than whatever Bray is doing so I'm not even sure if that's a storyline that will have any payoff, yet I'm cool with it lol.

    But who's excited about Corbin in the title picture? Who gives a damn about Roman v. Drew? And let me say this. They should ditch Corbin and put Shane v. Seth Rollins for the Universal championship. Shane beat Roman Reigns. Who did Corbin beat? Ricochet? I don't even remember who he beat to get the title shot that how much I don't give a fuck about the WWE in general. Because Smackdown isn't exactly doing anything worth a damn right now either.

    I'm going to say this knowing full well I'm comparing apples to applesauce but I am more intrigued with all this craziness in New Japan right now than I am any other promotion. Maybe if the WWE had Tanahashi show up and challenge Kofi I could get down with the WWE a little more but they literally have no direction. Sometimes that's not a horrible thing if you're pairing up solid talent with each other....But we're not seeing that at all play out on t.v.

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    There are zero intriguing storylines going on right now. Zero. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn are doing fuck all. Finn Balor is having a meh feud with Andrade. Drew vs Roman and Rollins vs Corbin is boring as fuck. The tag divisions are basically non existent right now. What is Samoa Joe even doing? Elias? Miz? I guess they are going to do a Miz Joe feud.

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    Mcintyre has to win vs roman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    There are zero intriguing storylines going on right now. Zero. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn are doing fuck all. Finn Balor is having a meh feud with Andrade. Drew vs Roman and Rollins vs Corbin is boring as fuck. The tag divisions are basically non existent right now. What is Samoa Joe even doing? Elias? Miz? I guess they are going to do a Miz Joe feud.
    We have characters like Zayn and Bray Wyatt who are doing cool shit but no dance partners.

    If I'm the WWE, I'm using this Stomping Grounds as a way to kill any lame shit they still have going and try to build up everything brand new leading into Summerslam. I have a feeling we're probably going to see Lesnar v. Rollins @ Summerslam. Honestly I'm fine with that because they have good chemistry and I'm loving Brock with the case. Outside of that, they could really bring some freshness.

    If Joe v. Miz is on deck, I'm not exactly negative toward that even if I'm not high on Miz as a babyface. Much better as a heel. But these are 2 guys who I feel can make generally anything work.

    Kofi v. Dolph...You know I like the whole approach from Dolph I really do but man it's just not doing anything for me.

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    I can't believe Nakamura and Rusev have been fazed out in the era of the brand split. Those guys used to be so over.

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    After a so-so Supershow, maybe the WWE will come into this show with all guns blazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    I can't believe Nakamura and Rusev have been fazed out in the era of the brand split. Those guys used to be so over.
    The upside is that they still could be top tier talent. What's holding the WWE back from doing Nakamura v. Kofi for the WWE title? What about them v. Daniel/Rowan but have Rusev/Nak be the babyfaces? That would actually be a great feud and would do SOMETHING of worth with the titles....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    After a so-so Supershow, maybe the WWE will come into this show with all guns blazing.
    I hope. Have Strowman come out and lay out Corbin and declare himself the new #1 contender. Being dead serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    I can't believe Nakamura and Rusev have been fazed out in the era of the brand split. Those guys used to be so over.
    I don't get what's special about them but i never expected kofi to be a main event level performer.

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    Rusev is good in the ring, good on the mic, he was over with the crowd, his rusev day shirt was selling, and he got himself over as a babyface with the new gimmick with Aiden English. He did everything asked of him on camera. Now if there is something that happened behind the scenes that we don't know about then it's another story.

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    Didn't he kill mark henry?

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    Looking forward to Truth defending the 24/7 belt, hopefully more Ricochet/Cesaro action, and a new Firefly Funhouse. Fuck the rest.

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    This is becoming hard to do. Making myself sit down to watch WWE shows. It's bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    Looking forward to Truth defending the 24/7 belt, hopefully more Ricochet/Cesaro action, and a new Firefly Funhouse. Fuck the rest.
    Pretty much.

    Maybe Brock beastboxing again with the case then we see the Brock-a-roonie (okay maybe that last part won't hapoen but it'd be awesome).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    This is becoming hard to do. Making myself sit down to watch WWE shows. It's bad.
    Haven't watched it in months upon months... and life's been better because of it. Trust me, I'll peak my head in and I never feel like I'm missing out on anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Haven't watched it in months upon months... and life's been better because of it. Trust me, I'll peak my head in and I never feel like I'm missing out on anything.
    A couple of weeks ago I watched raw and SmackDown without going online and it was a good experience. Then last week I watched with online and it wasn't as good. I think watching without outside influence is key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    Looking forward to Truth defending the 24/7 belt, hopefully more Ricochet/Cesaro action, and a new Firefly Funhouse. Fuck the rest.
    How dare you say that about Braun Strowman. We are no longer friends!

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    I would the Braun-a-roonie even more than the Brock-a-roonie.

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    Braun could stop Lars easily.

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    I wanna see Lars VS Braun.

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    Lol who cares they are bf gf does it have to be a storyline?

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    Why would R Truth (for kayfabe reasons) show up on Raw if he's on Smackdown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damien View Post
    I wanna see Lars VS Braun.
    I assume they're saving it for Mania

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    ​god lacy is awful on the mic

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    Quote Originally Posted by rom7878 View Post
    ​god lacy is awful on the mic
    No sweet heart she's very good sweet heart and when she beats Becky sweet heart she will sweet heart sweet heart.

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    So after the break we are gonna get a 6 man tag.
    What would be a suprise and what they SHOULD do is a 6 pack challenge for the US title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damien View Post
    So after the break we are gonna get a 6 man tag.
    What would be a suprise and what they SHOULD do is a 6 pack challenge for the US title.
    BookerBot5000 clearly disagreed with you.

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    Should be Braun vs Miz, Joe, Cesaro, Ricochet, and Lashley in a 5 on one match.

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    I'm bored. Gonna go read.

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    Cesaro looks like he is legit hurt

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    So is Bliss supposed to be a tweener?

    Edit: Lacey really is Charlotte 2.0.

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    Is it still 5 people for the wildcard rule or however many they feel like at this point?

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    They stopped with 5 people after 2nd week... its the same old people anyways

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    Fail to see how anyone thinks this show is boring. I'm loving it!

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    God this RAW is a slog...

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    How did they manage to fuck up Roman Reigns beating cancer?

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    The crowd just doesn't care.

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    Last edited by Bill Casey; June 10th, 2019 at 10:23 PM.

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    Man... Seems like there's no way out of booking here. At least Seth's over...

    I wish the feuds on RAW were: Joe/Seth for the red strap, Cesaro/Strowman for the US, Becky Vs. Naomi for the ladies, Lashley Vs. Ricochet with Rico always coming up short... AoP vs. the World on a month by month mission destroying while every fortnight Miz looks for a new tag partner and ends up with Undertaker or Rey teaming with him at SummerSlam, only to drop immediately to the Raiders the RAW after decisively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Fail to see how anyone thinks this show is boring. I'm loving it!
    what exactly did you enjoy about this RAW? were any stories advanced at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    what exactly did you enjoy about this RAW? were any stories advanced at all?
    1. I enjoyed the addition of a guest referee in the Universal Championship match at Stomping Ground. I also loved how Paul Heyman teased it could be Brock Lesnar. It adds some excitement to the title match. I know people aren't too thrilled with Baron Corbin, but he's been doing a great job as a heel. I don't expect him to win at Stomping Ground, but I expect a program between Rollins and the referee to be the feud moving forward. I personally hope it's Bray Wyatt.

    2. Lars Sullivan destroyed the Lucha House Party, and it's building him up as a monster. We've seen it before I suppose with guys like Ryback and Braun Strowman beating people in 1 on 3 matches. But it adds that "Can he be stopped?" aura and I love that. I hope it ends up being a Sullivan/Strowman feud down the road.

    3. The 24/7 stuff was just fun. It might be silly but does all wrestling have to be serious? R-Truth is great in the role.

    4. The US title seen just got interesting with 5 people staking claim. I hope it means a multi-man match at the PPV.

    5. Women's scene. It's great to see Alexa wrestling again. Becky and Alexa seems fresh, and Lacey Evans looks strong going into the PPV. Plus you have the set up of Nikki Cross who Becky Lynch bumped into, that could lead to a great program.

    6. The IIconics stuff is great. I love their poses. And the fact that they keep fighting enhancement talent while proclaiming to be the best, just means that a really strong team will come in and beat them for the titles. Maybe Asuka and Sane.

    7. Shane McMahon continues to be the best heel on the roster. He's just so good. I don't think anyone expects Drew McIntyre to win at the PPV, but I'm hoping for a Shane/Roman blowoff match at SummerSlam.

    8. Glad to see the Revival win, I don't think I'd seen Ryder and Hawkins since the week after WrestleMania. The tag champions should be featured prominently, and hopefully their alliance with Shane and Drew will lead to a dominant reign.

    9. I fell asleep during the Rollins/Owens match, but it's all just to make Rollins look good. He's the champion, so he should.

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    Yeah i think for the first team in about 12 years I am going to purposely give this show a miss.

    The in ring stuff is generally good, has been for a while but everything else is pretty dull. Nothing really means anything and 3 hours is a long time to go through that.

    Boring is worse than bad, at least bad can be amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    So is Bliss supposed to be a tweener?

    Edit: Lacey really is Charlotte 2.0.
    I think bliss is partially psychotic with repressed anger issues. Is becky a tweener? Damn she gets mean...
    Im alll for lacey as the face of wwe. That lady is classy as hell....

    I fell asleepe before bray's house of fun segment. I wonder how seth vs kevin turned out

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    Quote Originally Posted by rom7878 View Post
    Lol who cares they are bf gf does it have to be a storyline?
    I'm curious as to why you feel this way? Triple H/Stephanie, Miz/Maryse, Bryan/Bella, Cena/Bella, Savage/Elizabeth, Mero/Sable, DDP/Kimberly, the list goes on for real life relationships that are shown in storylines.

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    I'd much rather see Seth/Becky in a storyline than Charlotte/Andrade

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    Have to hand it to WWE for immersion factor...
    Those R-Truth segments really made me feel like I was trapped in an elevator...

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    I watched much of this week's RAW on my early father's day present - a new 70 in HDTV. Good news is Lacey Evans looks even better in hi-def. Bad news is Heyman had a long promo and it was distracting, because instead of shaving, he just put more makeup on.

    Good news is that EC3 is finally getting some character development - bad news is that his character is just a dumbass.

    Good news is that I had the big TV in time to watch the NBA Finals.

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    Bad news for you, I enjoyed nba finals on my new 71 in HDTV

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    I upgraded from a 40 inch standard def TV I had for I think 11 years. This is a sensory shock to me.

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    I'm with most people here and just tuned out of RAW. I caught the elevator stuff, but mainly just had the show on in the background. I missed at least half of it will doing other things. Nothing feels "must see" except the 24/7 Title and Firefly Funhouse segments. It's bad when the actual feuds on a wrestling show are second to that.

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    It's all about the booking and the stories. This shit is so bad it actually ruins the wrestling itself. I'm so close to just calling it quits on WWE right now. There is just enough for me to keep watching but goddamn I'm tired of struggling through every show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    This is becoming hard to do. Making myself sit down to watch WWE shows. It's bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    It's all about the booking and the stories. This shit is so bad it actually ruins the wrestling itself. I'm so close to just calling it quits on WWE right now. There is just enough for me to keep watching but goddamn I'm tired of struggling through every show.
    then just stop watching. ffs. stop being so melodramatic, make a decision and do it. it aint going away, it'll still be there when you want to come back, you can easily watch what you miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    then just stop watching. ffs. stop being so melodramatic, make a decision and do it. it aint going away, it'll still be there when you want to come back, you can easily watch what you miss.
    You know what it really is?

    I'm scared it's going to get better and turn around just as soon as I make up my mind to quit watching.

    I know it's silly. I guess I'm more frustrated with myself than anything. Actually forcing myself to watch something that I'm not enjoying just out of ritual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    You know what it really is?

    I'm scared it's going to get better and turn around just as soon as I make up my mind to quit watching.

    I know it's silly. I guess I'm more frustrated with myself than anything. Actually forcing myself to watch something that I'm not enjoying just out of ritual.
    If it gets better, I'm sure you'll hear word of it. Especially if you watch another company like AEW or NJPW. Even if you post here you'll see threads proclaiming how this WWE show was a return to form or something. If it's upsetting you that much how bad it is then it's only healthy to stop watching.

    I know the feeling though. I've tried to stop watching wrestling but it's just difficult to do. Mostly cause there's so much of it and just don't have the time to watch everything and I really want to. But I just decided to check out what shows I can and have a good time.

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    it's insanely easy to keep up with what's happening, even just through osmosis. posting here and browsing squaredcircle keeps me in the loop without having to watch these slogging tv shows. i read results, i see clips, i read takes. i ingest it in a way that is way more comfortable and a lot quicker. i have no fear im missing anything, cause i know the wwe isnt going to suddenly shift how they do things on a dime. if it does happen, it will be gradual, and i'll hear about it and ingest it how i currently do, and then i can decide to watch live once i actually feel like it's worth my time. be accountable to your feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    it's insanely easy to keep up with what's happening, even just through osmosis. posting here and browsing squaredcircle keeps me in the loop without having to watch these slogging tv shows. i read results, i see clips, i read takes. i ingest it in a way that is way more comfortable and a lot quicker. i have no fear im missing anything, cause i know the wwe isnt going to suddenly shift how they do things on a dime. if it does happen, it will be gradual, and i'll hear about it and ingest it how i currently do, and then i can decide to watch live once i actually feel like it's worth my time. be accountable to your feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    it's insanely easy to keep up with what's happening, even just through osmosis. posting here and browsing squaredcircle keeps me in the loop without having to watch these slogging tv shows. i read results, i see clips, i read takes. i ingest it in a way that is way more comfortable and a lot quicker. i have no fear im missing anything, cause i know the wwe isnt going to suddenly shift how they do things on a dime. if it does happen, it will be gradual, and i'll hear about it and ingest it how i currently do, and then i can decide to watch live once i actually feel like it's worth my time. be accountable to your feelings.
    This all day, baby.

    Scared that it'll get better? What's to be scared about? You won't miss it, you can easily dial up anything you want as soon as you hear about it 'cuz interwebz, dude.

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    Could you imagine 20 years ago trying to do that?

    "Here you go Morrison, 40 VHS tapes of the last 2 years, good luck finding the highlights" lol.

    But sometimes I do feel like not watching certain angles or matches as they happen and going back and seeing a little clip or even 10 years later watching it....Sometimes you have to experience it as it happens for it to really matter.

    I used to talk to quite a few people on this board about how sometimes we go back and watch something 20-30 years ago that we thought was the shit and it sucks ass lol. Especially if you didn't watch it live. But if you watched it live, you still have the memory of how it made you feel in a positive so it clouds your judgement even more.

    I believe this was when I coined the term "Attitude Era Syndrome"

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    Watching highlights on Youtube and shit like that is like watching a movie version of a great book. Sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't give you the full experience. Anyone who has read the book IT knows what I'm talking about lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Watching highlights on Youtube and shit like that is like watching a movie version of a great book. Sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't give you the full experience. Anyone who has read the book IT knows what I'm talking about lol.
    Just re-reading that now actually. Richie and Bill escaping the wolf man in the basement is so fucking horrifying.

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    I stopped watching and only read results or turn the show on during a commercial of whatever sporting event is on tv that night. if I like what I see, I keep it on. If not, I just turn the channel. I watch most of the ppvs live but I doubt stomping grounds will be one of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    You know what it really is?

    I'm scared it's going to get better and turn around just as soon as I make up my mind to quit watching.

    I know it's silly. I guess I'm more frustrated with myself than anything. Actually forcing myself to watch something that I'm not enjoying just out of ritual.
    An easy solution is to DVR the show so you can skip through what doesn't interest. That's what I've been doing with Smackdown and most likely will with RAW.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Watching highlights on Youtube and shit like that is like watching a movie version of a great book. Sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't give you the full experience. Anyone who has read the book IT knows what I'm talking about lol.
    Ain't that the truth. The new movie removed just about everything important and left only what was superficial. It was a shell of the real story.

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