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    BEST OF THE SUPER JUNIORS 2019



    Monday, May 13th

    Tiger Mask vs. Taka Michinoku
    Titan vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru
    Marty Scurll vs. Jonathan Gresham
    Shingo Takagi vs. SHO
    Dragon Lee vs. Taiji Ishimori

    Tuesday, May 14th

    Rocky Romero vs. Robbie Eagles
    Flip Gordon vs. El Desperado
    Bandido vs. El Phantasmo
    Will Ospreay vs. Bushi
    Ryusuke Taguchi vs. YOH

    Wednesday, May 15th

    Jonathan Gresham vs. Taka Michinoku
    Tiger Mask vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru
    Titan vs. Shingo Takagi
    Marty Scurll vs. Taiji Ishimori
    Dragon Lee vs. SHO

    Thursday, May 16th

    Flip Gordon vs. Robbie Eagles
    YOH vs. Bandido
    Bushi vs. El Phantasmo
    Will Ospreay vs. Rocky Romero
    Ryusuke Taguchi vs. El Desperado

    Saturday, May 18th

    SHO vs. Taka Michinoku
    Tiger Mask vs. Marty Scurll
    Titan vs. Taiji Ishimori
    Dragon Lee vs. Jonathan Gresham
    Shingo Takagi vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru

    Sunday, May 19th

    Rocky Romero vs. Flip Gordon
    Bandido vs. El Desperado
    El Phantasmo vs. Robbie Eagles
    Will Ospreay vs. YOH
    Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Bushi

    Wednesday, May 22nd

    Taiji Ishimori vs. Taka Michinoku
    Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Robbie Eagles
    Titan vs. Jonathan Gresham
    Rocky Romero vs. YOH
    Tiger Mask vs. Dragon Lee
    Bushi vs. El Desperado
    SHO vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru
    Bandido vs. Flip Gordon
    Marty Scurll vs. Shingo Takagi
    Will Ospreay vs. El Phantasmo

    Thursday, May 23rd

    Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Rocky Romero
    Titan vs. Taka Michinoku
    Bushi vs. Robbie Eagles
    Tiger Mask vs. Jonathan Gresham
    YOH vs. El Desperado
    SHO vs. Marty Scurll
    Flip Gordon vs. El Phantasmo
    Taiji Ishimori vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru
    Will Ospreay vs. Bandido
    Dragon Lee vs. Shingo Takagi

    Friday, May 24th

    Tiger Mask vs. SHO
    Robbie Eagles vs. El Desperado
    Marty Scurll vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru
    Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Bandido
    Shingo Takagi vs. Taka Michinoku
    YOH vs. Bushi
    Jonathan Gresham vs. Taiji Ishimori
    Rocky Romero vs. El Phantasmo
    Dragon Lee vs. Titan
    Will Ospreay vs. Flip Gordon

    Sunday, May 26th

    Rocky Romero vs. El Desperado
    Jonathan Gresham vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru
    Bandido vs. Bushi
    Titan vs. Marty Scurll
    YOH vs. El Phantasmo
    Tiger Mask vs. Shingo Takagi
    Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Flip Gordon
    Dragon Lee vs. Taka Michinoku
    Will Ospreay vs. Robbie Eagles
    SHO vs. Taiji Ishimori

    Wednesday, May 29th

    Marty Scurll vs. Taka Michinoku
    SHO vs. Titan
    Tiger Mask vs. Taiji Ishimori
    Jonathan Gresham vs. Shingo Takagi
    Dragon Lee vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru

    Thursday, May 30th

    Bandido vs. Robbie Eagles
    YOH vs. Flip Gordon
    Rocky Romero vs. Bushi
    Ryusuke Taguchi vs. El Phantasmo
    Will Ospreay vs. El Desperado

    Friday, May 31st

    Tiger Mask vs. Titan
    Dragon Lee vs. Marty Scurll
    SHO vs. Jonathan Gresham
    Shingo Takagi vs. Taiji Ishimori
    Yoshinobu Kanemaru vs. Taka Michinoku

    Monday, June 3rd

    Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Will Ospreay
    Rocky Romero vs. Bandido
    YOH vs. Robbie Eagles
    Flip Gordon vs. Bushi
    El Phantasmo vs. El Desperado

    Wednesday, June 5th

    A Block Winner vs. B Block Winner
    Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Jay White

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    watched day 1 so far. SHO/Shingo was awesome. I wasn't feeling it as top 5 MOTY though, so i think i'll give it a rewatch some time soon. lee/ishimori was disappointing. the undercard matches were mostly fun.

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    SHO got a singles theme


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    I really liked DOUKI/ren on night 2. Excited to see more of both of them. New japan should put unknown guys or young lions in their tournaments more often

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    Sho vs Dragon Lee went a little too long, but it was very good. One of the coolest suicidas I've seen.

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    does shingo have the best juniors theme?


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    I like Ospreay's theme

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    Yeah Ospreay's is addictive but I love that Shingo theme.

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    Sho/dragon lee was waaay too long. Would have been an awesome 15 minute match. New japan would really benefit from having their top matches go 15-20 now and again rather than 25+ all the time.

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    I think I could really get behind a taguchi win

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    When is Hiromu expected back? His presence looms over this whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cewsh View Post
    When is Hiromu expected back? His presence looms over this whole thing.
    i recall hearing july, but have zero evidence to back that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cewsh View Post
    When is Hiromu expected back? His presence looms over this whole thing.
    Meltzer said by the end of the summer.

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    i think i liked rocky/ospreay more than sho/shingo

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    what has been the WORST OF THE SUPER JUNIORS 2019?

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    ishimori/scurl and taguchi/DOUKI

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    i loved rocky vs. ren narita. push ren now.

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    I am so far behind

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    i'm behind by two days. the first double-block show was awesome, and the two i'm behind on look very, very good.

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    Fuck man. Ospreay/Bandido and Shingo/Lee back to back is just unreal. The future is so damn bright.

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    Ospreay/Ren and Taguchi/Rocky are pure, unadulterated fun.

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    the may 23 show might be the show of the year. shingo/lee best match of the tournament so far.

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    Jon Moxley is the guy in the bar and debuts at the Super Jr final

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    el phantasmo and robbie eagles badly need new finishers.

    actually, finishers are becoming a huge pet peeve of mine in wrestling, especially with how many wild spots you see in matches these days. it just feels off that in, for example, a dragon lee match you'll have a spot where he hits a nasty looking reverse rana and like three killer knee strikes right to the head in a row for a nearfalls, or even a one count!, but his okay-looking orange crush finisher is supposed to be a one hit kill. it would be nice if sometimes the spots in matches that actually looked like real match-enders could end matches.

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    That was my problem with Ospreay until the Stormbreaker which I quite like.

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    the stormbreaker is fine but his elbow to the back of the head should be his kill shot rather than a set up for the stormbreaker.

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    sho/shingo was meh. sho's strikes are awful, and given so much of the match was him going toe to toe with shingo in the strike game, it just kept dragging the match down more and more. shingo being this big hoss of a junior definitely doesnt help weaker offense look any better. very large disconnect for me and the majority opinion for this match.

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    one thing about sho is he seems to hit his lariats very lightly. when you're working big lariat spots in your matches regularly, you want some force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    one thing about sho is he seems to hit his lariats very lightly. when you're working big lariat spots in your matches regularly, you want some force.
    definitely was lacking vs shingo, though even his chops and slaps looked lame. whole match all i kept thinking was these look more annoying to shingo that hurtful.

    i think a lot of that is just cause of shingo's build and the kind of junior he is and they portray him to be, cause against dragon lee everything looked much better.

    rocky/ospreay was fantastic. rocky felt in it and on the cusp of winning way more organically than sho did against takagi, which were talking points throughout both matches. the whole 'this is sho's coming out match' fell flat on it's face to me.

    who's the black guy doing commentary? i cant tell if he's good or annoying yet.

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    Caprice Coleman. I've not liked him in ROH, but have here.

    Trying to get through my backlog here and Tiger Mask vs Dragon Lee ruled

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    one of my favorite low-key things about the BOSJ is that tiger mask usually has a couple really good matches, which is fun to see.

    bout to get started on the most recent show and get CAUGHT UP.

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    i like the venue for the latest show. makes me think of a michinoku pro show.

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    i thought yesterday's show was pretty rough.

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    hot take: YOH sucks

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    except for his dragon suplex

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    -I am loving this year's tournament. Really making me a fan of El Phantasmo and Robbie Eagles, two guys I had seen almost Zero of.

    -It's also bringing me around to Kanemaru which is weird.

    -I am now a fan of Titan.

    -Marty Scurll is kinda below the radar in this tourney.

    -Excited to see Shingo/Ishimori!

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    robbie eagles submission move is TERRIBLE. way too many shitty finishers/signature moves going on in new japan right now. get it together guys.

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    So what would happen if Ospreay/Taguchi went to a Draw? They would tie at 13? Who would have the tiebreaker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    hot take: YOH sucks

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    except for his dragon suplex
    Now now, settle down. I think he’s gonna be the better of the two long term.

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    they both need to work on their strikes badly

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    Holy shit Sho vs Marty!


    I am still super far behind

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    i dont even remember sho vs. marty haha.

    have one show left to get caught up. douki's only good matches were vs. ren narito and will ospreay. narita is at least the third best guy in this tournament behind shingo and ospreay.

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    Onto Ospreay vs Bandido which Dave gave, what used to be, the full five.

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    Yeah that ruled

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    And Shingo vs Dragon Lee was even better

    Night 2 in Korakuen is show of the year so far

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    Yep.

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    The 3 straight korakuen nights reminded me of 2013 and 2014 g1

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    El phantasmo impressed me way more in the taguchi match than he had previously in the tournament

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    Just watched Ospreay vs Eagles. I love this god damn tournament.

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    it's the first time it's felt like a genuine juniors g1.

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    This is one of my favorite tournaments ever. Been a joy to keep up with it, rather than a slog.

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    HIROMU~!


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    This tournament basically determines who will face Hiromu. Great idea to start floating him slowly back into the fan’s consciousness.

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    all caught up for the final

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    Robbie Eagles, El Phantasmo, and Taiji Ishimori teaming up for a 6 Man, excited to see that!

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    Great final match. Ospreay will go down as one of the all-time greatest juniors

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    finna boutta watch this final. heard very good things.

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    I feel Mox/Juice is exactly your style

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    ishii's reaction to taichi disrespecting his beloved NEVER belt actually has me want to see that match

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    holy shit that finals match.

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    damn can brody king take fale's place in the g1

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    jay white's facial hair is the best move of his career. holy shit, night and day as far as effective look for this character.

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    oh my goodness juice/moxley was awesome. moxley looked like one of the best in the world. he actually made the ring post figure four look good! a miracle. very, very much looking forward to more moxley in new japan. i hope he and juice embark on a feud of increasingly violent matches culminating in a death match.

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    Moxley is the US Champion. Sucks for Juice, but no way was Moxley going to lose with all the attention he's getting. It was a fun match. Moxley is a lot of fun to see here in the NJPW style. Good look to him now. Juice is great, but he's had a bit of a blandness to him. Not sure what's going on with him, but it'd be great to see Juice get an electric run in him.

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    if it were me i'd be booking ahead to kota ibushi vs. will ospreay to main event the 2021 dome show.

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    In an effort not to be a parody of myself I will refrain from speaking on the Moxley vs Juice match

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    So, does Moxley actually wear tights or trunks now, or is he still wrestling in the jeans and wife beater?

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    I actually kind of want to see Juice beat Moxley. I like the story of Juice coming to Japan, and becoming good. Then Moxley shows up and takes his title, night 1.

    Build Juice up to eventually win the IC Title, and then here comes Moxley, challenging him for the belt. Juice accepts and gets his win.

    That'd be my pitch

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    Fucking hell guys. That final was magic. This tournament was magic. Ospreay is ready to go all the way at this point.

    As usual, New Japan's cup runneth over with potential main eventers.

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    Also, if Ospreay faces Hiromu at this point, someone is probably going to die in that match,.

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    That match was the culmination of everything Willow’s Prey has been building towards the past few years. He’s got everything needed to be at the top with Okada, White, and Tana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    In an effort not to be a parody of myself I will refrain from speaking on the Moxley vs Juice match
    What does this mean

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    He still hates Moxley

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    frosty is a such a geek sometimes

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    STAR. I assume he'll be using this in AEW as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero! View Post



    What does this mean
    I really liked the match, but after spending his entire career bitching about him I didn't want to start praising him the second he showed up in Japan. You know me being me and all even I realize that's kind of a bad look.

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    Yeah, but this was miles different from anything he did in WWE. Death Rider Moxley is the shit.

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    Moxley was a billion times better than he ever was in WWE.

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    *cough* marks *cough*

    Fucking guy did 2 moves at DoN=He's way better than his WWE run!

    Dude has a mediocre match with a mediocre talent in Japan=Best thing he's done by a billion compared to WWE.

    Did motherfuckers forget every match with Rolilns sans the IC title ppv match? I'll put their Lumberjack match up against this average performance.

    I love this dude and you guys are ruining it by being so absurd. We can definitely tell who is a Meltzer fan. The split second someone touches down at the Komatsu airport and it's THEY ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THEY WERE AFTER 1 MATCH!!

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    That’s nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    *cough* marks *cough*

    Fucking guy did 2 moves at DoN=He's way better than his WWE run!

    Dude has a mediocre match with a mediocre talent in Japan=Best thing he's done by a billion compared to WWE.

    Did motherfuckers forget every match with Rolilns sans the IC title ppv match? I'll put their Lumberjack match up against this average performance.

    I love this dude and you guys are ruining it by being so absurd. We can definitely tell who is a Meltzer fan. The split second someone touches down at the Komatsu airport and it's THEY ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THEY WERE AFTER 1 MATCH!!
    SIR

    how many drugs have you smoked today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero! View Post
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    how many drugs have you smoked today
    Well...That's a good question. Can you smoke Substance D? And if you can, should I have done just that? Somebody call my sponsor at New Path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Well...That's a good question. Can you smoke Substance D? And if you can, should I have done just that? Somebody call my sponsor at New Path.
    I don’t know what any of that means, so I’m gonna go ahead and call THE POLICE on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero! View Post
    Sting is on his way

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    Who knew that the WWE not only restricted your creative input but also your wrestling ability? Like this AJ Styles....Man that guy sucks in WWE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero! View Post
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    He’s only smoking Vince’s pipe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    He’s only smoking Vince’s pipe
    I don't appreciate your homophobic insult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    He’s only smoking Vince’s pipe
    The only pipe I'm smoking is the one with Perry Saturn when we go chill at Sud Suckers on Army Post and SE 14th here in Des Moines. The whitest of white bars you could find for sure. You walk in there with a tan they'll probably lynch you too.

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    Trying to crunch some highlight catch up before the G1 starts. What's a good "5 matches you must see" from this tournament not including the final?

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    Shingo vs. SHO, Night 1
    Ospreay vs. Rocky Romero, Night 4
    Ospreay vs. Bandido, Night 8
    Shingo vs. Dragon Lee, Night 8
    Rocky Romero vs. El Phantasmo, Night 9

    i'd also very strongly recommend watching Ren Narita's matches against Romero, Ospreay and Phantasmo. a lot of people rated robbie eagles vs. will ospreay very highly. dragon lee vs. tiger mask and douki vs. will ospreay are two of the better less talked about matches. kanemaru vs. shingo was really good too, probably kanemaru's best new japan match of his suzuki-gun run.

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    Who did Douki and Ren replace so I can match the schedule in the first post? I assume one replaced Flip.

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    i think ren=flip, douki=desperado

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Trying to crunch some highlight catch up before the G1 starts. What's a good "5 matches you must see" from this tournament not including the final?
    My top 5 non finals matches were Shingo vs Dragon Lee, Ospreay vs Bandido, Ospreay vs Eagles, Shingo vs Sho, and Rocky vs Phantasmo

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    Rocky/Phantasmo was GREAT.

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    I seem to be in the minority but I thought today's title match between Ospreay and Eagles was kinda boring

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    seeing it's 35 minutes long doesn't have me rushing to watch it

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    im not a robbie eagles fan at all. needs a totally revamped offense for one.

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