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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    So much so that it's been brought up by commentary....welp. Your logical point isn't followed up by the people who can try to salvage the sense of it all.
    In addition, it only makes sense for one of the two people. This is also the night after Mania so it lacks a certain level of excitement.
    what? the commentators literally said the bar have a history with the new day and that they were a team standing in the way of kofi getting his shot at the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    what? the commentators literally said the bar have a history with the new day and that they were a team standing in the way of kofi getting his shot at the title.
    I edited my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Seriously, they need to come up with a better name than the Stomp.
    The Shield Breaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I edited my post.
    they lost to the two best wrestler in the company...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Seriously, they need to come up with a better name than the Stomp.
    ......The Scorch Mark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I edited my post.
    not only the two best wrestlers, but also two guys who have been part of dominant, successful modern day factions that are very high on teamwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    they lost to the two best wrestler in the company...
    Less than 24 hours after two of the most grueling matches they've been in.

    You can cite their own histories with their factions but they have very little sense of teamwork together. The last time they were in the same ring, they were facing off against each other I believe.

    The Bar themselves didn't give a reason why they interfered and why they just so happened to be on a show they had no business being on.

    I'm not disputing there's connective tissue there but it's very flimsy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Casey View Post
    ......The Scorch Mark?
    Ye Olde Coblestone Stomp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Casey View Post
    ......The Scorch Mark?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    Ye Olde Coblestone Stomp?
    The Hot Foot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Less than 24 hours after two of the most grueling matches they've been in.
    The Bar themselves didn't give a reason why they interfered and why they just so happened to be on a show they had no business being on.

    I'm not disputing there's connective tissue there but it's very flimsy.
    kofi shouldnt have been on the show. the whole roster is in the same place, i dont see why you think that's somehow strange.

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    How can a midcard tag team lose to the two world champions?! Can't they have standards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    kofi shouldnt have been on the show. the whole roster is in the same place, i dont see why you think that's somehow strange.
    You could make a case it was known Rollins was going to lay down an open challenge.

    I think most of my gripe would have been alleviated if they teased the match in the opening segment and The Bar shows up, explains why they are there, attacks Kofi and/or The New Day and Seth gets saves and they just abandon the winner takes all match right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    You could make a case it was known Rollins was going to lay down an open challenge.

    I think most of my gripe would have been alleviated if they teased the match in the opening segment and The Bar shows up, explains why they are there, attacks Kofi and/or The New Day and Seth gets saves and they just abandon the winner takes all match right away.
    so you've got no problem making leaps for kofi but the bar attacking two world champions including one they have recent history with needs to be better laid out for you?

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    Wasn't the stomp once called the blackout? Maybe that was another move, or something I just out-and-out imagined..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    so you've got no problem making leaps for kofi but the bar attacking two world champions including one they have recent history with needs to be better laid out for you?
    I would say my point about connective tissue works just as well against me, so I'm not sure why you're really trying to aha me. The main point is that it all seemed cobbled together and there were clearly things they could have done to make it better.

    I'm pretty sure I'm not in the minority saying the inclusion of the bar was
    - underwhelming
    - not explained in a satisfactory manner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    The hotfoot?

    The Five Toe Death Tap?

    The Shoe Horn?
    The Seth Blow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atty View Post
    The AA.
    That's pretty good...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    The Seth Penalty
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    Strange no Roman, Drew, Strowman, or Triple H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Strange no Roman, Drew, Strowman, or Triple H.
    Well not super strange that HHH wasnt there.

    I guess it was more about the focal points of last night's show without even dipping the toe into the future storyline thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooCool View Post
    Agreed, that was weird. Why miss out on a freebie win over Elias at Mania to pad his record? Then you show up on RAW for what reason?
    Rumor is Sting might return at Saudi Arabia and they might tease a match or tag match

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegunn View Post
    Rumor is Sting might return at Saudi Arabia and they might tease a match or tag match
    Im pretty sure Sting's head fell off the last time he wrestled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punchy McTackleVest View Post
    Wasn't the stomp once called the blackout? Maybe that was another move, or something I just out-and-out imagined..
    It was once. It was also called the Piece/Peace of Mind once, as well. Like, when I say 'once' I mean literally once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    Im pretty sure Sting's head fell off the last time he wrestled.
    He meant the Jeff Farmer Sting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Casey View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegunn View Post
    Rumor is Sting might return at Saudi Arabia and they might tease a match or tag match
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    long history with the new day, woods and big e beat them to get kofi the shot, kofi beat both of them in his gauntlet. it might not be flashy, but it makes enough sense.
    With this logic half the roster could have an explanation. Utter bollocks and baffling booking. Shame as it was great as the the crowd were all hugely into it until that point.

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    I've figured it out. Rollins has an arson gimmick, right? Well, Sanji from One Piece has a special ability that sets his leg on fire. It's called Black Leg Style.



    Rollins originally wrestled as Tyler Black. Therefore, his Finisher should be called the Black Foot Here's a cool gif just because.


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    That was a really good episode of raw. It was so good that the WWE has got me pondering getting cable again.

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    Usually RAW is harder to get through than a John Canton blog but last night's episode breezed by and I was surprised that the show was over because it didn't feel like three hours.

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    Enjoyable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
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    Last edited by Chris Scott; April 9th, 2019 at 9:32 AM.

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    Ryder and Hawkins retain thank you Jesus. OHHHHH RADIOOOOOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero! View Post
    Ryder and Hawkins retain thank you Jesus. OHHHHH RADIOOOOOO
    Don’t get why Ryder stopped doing or they’ve stopped him doing the woo woo woo stuff. Also his old theme is way better. Anyway hopefully Ryder survives another spring clean of wrestlers getting released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegunn View Post
    That sounds like bs.

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    Still don’t get The Bar interrupting the main event for no logical reason? That was an extremely poor booking decision, especially in Brooklyn. Crowd hated it and started doing there own usual stuff, sure I heard a “AEW” chant.

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    did not like the ending of RAW at all.

    anyway, I am a little intrigued with the Bray Wyatt teaser. I wonder what they have planned for his character? if he will be a face or heel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Still don’t get The Bar interrupting the main event for no logical reason? That was an extremely poor booking decision, especially in Brooklyn. Crowd hated it and started doing there own usual stuff, sure I heard a “AEW” chant.
    A e dub a e dub!

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    Daft ending, but overall not a bad episode. Lars coming back.

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    Do you guys think Ambrose is done? Seems a weird way to send him off. He's got unfinished business now!

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    Yeah he got a send-off after the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Do you guys think Ambrose is done? Seems a weird way to send him off. He's got unfinished business now!
    He's done. why else would they do that send off after raw? also, it was just a way to get Lashley some heat after losing to Balor.

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    Do you guys think Ambrose is done? Seems a weird way to send him off. He's got unfinished business now!
    The way they've been hyping him leaving the last 2 months seems more like he's just getting some time off and coming back. If Lashley putting him through a table last night was writing him out of things that's about as exciting as a wet fart.

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    I'm sticking with my perspective from this originally came out and people wondering why WWE announced the fact he wasn't going to re-sign. They wanted to get out ahead of most outlets to be transparent and control the narrative as much as they could under the circumstances. I don't doubt that they tried to renegotiate with him after that came around but he was holding his ground. At that point, they did what they usually do with people who are on the way out and jobbed him out. The different circumstance was Roman returning and then they just adjusting the usage of Ambrose to get the last mileage out of The Shield and then resumed jobbing him out.

    I think they had to adapt on the fly because they went out of their way a lot to acknowledge on TV he was leaving. I think the adapting (or laziness) came in the form of continuously beating the crap out of him in scenarios that’s seemed fitting as a way to write him off TV but they opted not to use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I

    I think they had to adapt on the fly because they went out of their way a lot to acknowledge on TV he was leaving. I think the adapting (or laziness) came in the form of continuously beating the crap out of him in scenarios that’s seemed fitting as a way to write him off TV but they opted not to use them.
    Not sure this makes much sense. They said it was his last appearance. They don't need a way to write him off because they already said this was it.

    Also, they had him put over Drew on his way out in multiple matches. what is so lazy about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Not sure this makes much sense. They said it was his last appearance. They don't need a way to write him off because they already said this was it.

    Also, they had him put over Drew on his way out in multiple matches. what is so lazy about that?
    I was talking about prior to last night in terms of putting him out there and creating scenarios where he really could have been written off.

    It’s sloppy in the sense that the first beatdown from Drew was definitely more violent and more matter of fact. Then there was another one and but it wasn’t as good. In some ways, that can undercut Drew, especially when he’s talking about destroying The Shield, which ultimately was a bag of nothing because he lost to Roman too. That feels hollow. The lazy example would be EC3 but I guess that is when they shifted gears and knew they were going to be able to circle back to The Shield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I was talking about prior to last night in terms of putting him out there and creating scenarios where he really could have been written off.

    It’s sloppy in the sense that the first beatdown from Drew was definitely more violent and more matter of fact. Then there was another one and but it wasn’t as good. In some ways, that can undercut Drew, especially when he’s talking about destroying The Shield, which ultimately was a bag of nothing because he lost to Roman too. That feels hollow. The lazy example would be EC3 but I guess that is when they shifted gears and knew they were going to be able to circle back to The Shield.
    Drew losing to Roman has nothing to do with Dean leaving through. The feud could continue for all we know. And yeah Dean got his win back over EC3 probably because they soured on him and the shield reunion like you mentioned.

    They could have written in off but seems silly to do that since saying he is leaving or this is his last appearance is, in fact, writing him off.

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    What ever happened to spoiler tags?

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    Cos it was awesome and they got two great live segments out of Elias?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    WWE keeps trying to make Dana "happen".

    Maybe Vince finally saw one of her bodybuilder videos?
    In fairness, she was the most over person in the women's battle royal so they were probably testing the water to see if that "ironic" overness would extend to Raw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT4104 View Post
    A wave during black and Ricochet screw you Raw After Mania crowd
    Black and Ricochet are dull as dishwater. They're trotted out week after week, not getting themselves over. The coolest thing they've done is the 3 man cross leg thing on Smackdown.

    It's yet another example of it being piss easy to get yourself over in NXT and being unable to translate it to the main roster despite being given the most airtime of any superstar over the past month.

    I hope when they go their separate ways it works for them but they're not there yet by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Black and Ricochet are dull as dishwater. They're trotted out week after week, not getting themselves over. The coolest thing they've done is the 3 man cross leg thing on Smackdown.

    It's yet another example of it being piss easy to get yourself over in NXT and being unable to translate it to the main roster despite being given the most airtime of any superstar over the past month.

    I hope when they go their separate ways it works for them but they're not there yet by any means.
    Have they been given the chance on the main roster? They are put together as a random team because they are from NXT and face random opponents each week. They barely get any mic time to explain themselves. How can they get any more over than they already are?
    Last edited by PurePlayer; April 12th, 2019 at 9:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    In fairness, she was the most over person in the women's battle royal so they were probably testing the water to see if that "ironic" overness would extend to Raw.
    she wasn't though.

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    What ever happened to spoiler tags?
    because it's not a spoiler lol. You are on a nice little streak here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Have they been given the chance on the main roster? They are put together as a random team because they are from NXT and face random opponents each week. They barely get any mic time to explain themselves. How can they get any more over than they already are?
    And they are getting pops when they come out, so there’s that. Saying they’re dull is a swing and a miss as a sweeping generalization.

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    Poor Elias, the one time he says "Dead Man" the Undertaker happens to be backstage. I picture the Undertaker just sitting there, thinking "I hope he says my nickname!" And then when Elias does he gets all giddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Have they been given the chance on the main roster? They are put together as a random team because they are from NXT and face random opponents each week. They barely get any mic time to explain themselves. How can they get any more over than they already are?
    They've had plenty of backstage segments. Particularly Ricochet.

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    Ricochet will be alright. Black will probably fade to...oh something that stuck in my mind from the commentary team trying to get them over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    she wasn't though.

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    because it's not a spoiler lol. You are on a nice little streak here.
    Dana Brooke was the only person to get a chant in the women's battle royal.

    Of course it's a spoiler. It's from the dirt sheets.

    Stop trying so hard, pureplaya

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    Dana Brooke is fantastic but that backstage interview was cringe worthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Dana Brooke was the only person to get a chant in the women's battle royal.

    Of course it's a spoiler. It's from the dirt sheets.

    Stop trying so hard, pureplaya
    A small chant after a couple eliminations doesn't make someone the most over in the battle royal.

    I have not read one article or dirt sheet that stated this. You can google sting rumors and nothing since 2018 comes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Dana Brooke is fantastic but that backstage interview was cringe worthy.
    serious question. what is so fantastic about her? She hasn't had a good match ever. She is horrible on the mic. What is so fantastic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    A small chant after a couple eliminations doesn't make someone the most over in the battle royal.

    I have not read one article or dirt sheet that stated this. You can google sting rumors and nothing since 2018 comes up.
    Why are you so mad bro? She got the only chants, they tested the water. It's what I said.

    If it's a rumour it's common courtesy to spoiler tag it. I haven't googled it because I don't care for spoilers. You're so irate that you're not realising that you're picking up an L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    They've had plenty of backstage segments. Particularly Ricochet.
    Plenty? I recall maybe two of them. Hardly enough for a couple call ups that wrestle on both shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    serious question. what is so fantastic about her? She hasn't had a good match ever. She is horrible on the mic. What is so fantastic?
    I guess I'm into bodybuilding women, who knew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Why are you so mad bro? She got the only chants, they tested the water. It's what I said.

    If it's a rumour it's common courtesy to spoiler tag it. I haven't googled it because I don't care for spoilers. You're so irate that you're not realising that you're picking up an L.
    Who is angry? How am I picking up an L here? You are the one talking about spoiler tagging a rumor that one poster made that isn't a spoiler. Seems like you were the one that's angry

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