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    Wrestle Kingdom 14 in Tokyo Dome 1/4 & 1/5 Jushin Thunder Liger Retirement





    Night 1 1/4




    IWGP Heavyweight Championship: Kazuchika Okada(c) vs Kota Ibushi




    IWGP Intercontinental Championship: Jay White(c) vs Tetsuya Naito



    IWGP Jr Heavyweight Championship: Will Ospreay(c) vs Hiromu Takahashi


    IWGP US Championship: Texas Death Match: Lance Archer(c) vs Jon Moxley


    IWGP Tag Team Championship: Guerrillas of Destiny(c) vs FinJuice


    Hirooki Goto/Tomohiro Ishii/Yoshi-Hashi/Toru Yano vs KENTA/Bad Luck Fale/Yujiro Takahashi/Chase Owens


    Los Ingobernables de Japon vs Suzuki-Gun


    Jushin Liger Retirement Match #1 Guest Referee Norio Honaga: Jushin Liger/Tatsumi Fujinami/Great Sasuke/Tiger Mask IV w/El Samurai vs Shinjiro Otani/Tatsuhito Takaiwa/Naoki Sano/Rysuke Taguchi


    Hiroyoshi Tenzan/Satoshi Kojima vs Yuji Nagata/Manabu Nakanishi


    Togi Makabe/Tomoaki Honma/Yota Tsuji/Yuya Uemura vs. Toa Henare/Karl Fredericks/Clark Connors/Alex Coughlin


    Stardom Offer Match: Mayu Iwatani/Arisa Hoshiki vs. Hana Kimura/Giulia

    Night 2 1/5

    Double Title Match: IWGP Heavyweight Champion vs IWGP Intercontinental Champion


    Special Singles Match: If Tanahashi Wins He Will Receive an AEW Title Shot: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Chris Jericho


    Special Singles Match: Loser of Okada/Ibushi vs Loser of White/Naito


    NEVER Openweight Championship: KENTA(c) vs Hirooki Goto


    British Heavyweight Championship: Zack Sabre Jr(c) vs SANADA


    IWGP Jr Tag Team Championship: El Phantasmo/Taiji Ishimori vs Roppongi 3K


    Jushin Thunder Liger Retirement Match II: Jushin Liger/Naoki Sano w/Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs Hiromu Takahashi/Ryu Lee
    Last edited by Defrost; December 29th, 2019 at 12:18 PM.

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    I've only ever seen his match against Tyler Breeze at one of the NXT Takeovers. What are considered his best matches, so I can look them up?

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    Loved watching his stuff in the late 90s. I'd look forward to his matches the most on the NJPW tapes I used to get from a trader.

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    top 10 of all time. do they go the usual route and do a multi-man match with big names for his final match, or a big one on one match? what about liger vs. okada for the IWGP title headlining?

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    ACTUALLY, how about liger wins the IWGP title at dominion, drops it at WK?

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    I will always remember him wrestling Pillman in WCW. They had some good matches. First exposure to any Japan wrestlers was WCW and the relationship they had with New Japan. I need to look some Liger matches to watch.

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    Sounds like one of the shows will be the normal NJPW Dome show and the other will be the Liger retirement show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I've only ever seen his match against Tyler Breeze at one of the NXT Takeovers. What are considered his best matches, so I can look them up?
    This seems like a good place to post some matches


    My personal favorite Liger match. The tournament final to crown the first GHC Jr Heavyweight Tag Team Champions. Liger and Takehiro Murahama vs KENTA & Naomichi Marufuji


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I've only ever seen his match against Tyler Breeze at one of the NXT Takeovers. What are considered his best matches, so I can look them up?
    Shame we only got that one-off appearance from him at NXT but at the end of the day NJPW is where his home is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    This seems like a good place to post some matches


    My personal favorite Liger match. The tournament final to crown the first GHC Jr Heavyweight Tag Team Champions. Liger and Takehiro Murahama vs KENTA & Naomichi Marufuji

    Those early-2000s Liger vs. NOAH tags are up there with my favorite things ever in wrestling

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    The only meeting between Liger and Rey Mysterio Jr


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    The semi final from the first Super J Cup against The Great Sasuke


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    they have another match in 94 thats even better but it's a bitch to find online. i know it's up on some japanese video streaming site but it's hard to wade through all the copies of the j-cup match to find the right upload.

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    CMLL went all out for Liger's final match in Arena Mexico last night


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    This is in Entertainment then too I guess?

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    Hey I can do this now


    By virtue of winning the 29th G1 Climax Kota Ibushi is the Number 1 Contender for the IWGP Heavyweight Championship and if he can defend his status will challenge for the title at Wrestle Kingdom in the Tokyo Dome.

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    Ibushi is a fantastic wrestler and very smart of him for not signing with the WWE. I have followed his career for years, I even have a DVD where he's like 100lbs soaking wet teaming up with Sanshiro in DDT where his finisher was the dropkick lol. Pretty sure it was his first year in wrestling, maybe even his first match.

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    I still say MLW Wrestling missed a trick not booking Liger for one of their big shows and having him work against Brian Pillman Junior. Those two could tear the damn house down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I've only ever seen his match against Tyler Breeze at one of the NXT Takeovers. What are considered his best matches, so I can look them up?
    Liger and Tiger Mask vs Taiji Ishimorri and Atsushi Kotoge from Pro Wrestling NOAH

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    I think someone is leaving this show with two belts

    https://uproxx.com/prowrestling/njpw...m-challenge/2/

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    Jay White, Kota Ibushi, and Tetsuya Naito are all cutting promos about being double champion now

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    a 4 Way Elimination Match would be crazy. I don't think New Japan has ever had a 4 Way Match, or an Elimination Singles Match.

    Or a Title vs. Title match.

    I want that.

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    The idea everyone is going with is that 1/4 would be Okada vs Ibushi and Jay vs Naito with the winners wrestling on 1/5

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    So, Ibushi wins the title and then dies the next night vs Naito.

    Yeah?

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    I'd rather 1/4 being IC title vs. IWGP contract, with the winner fighting Okada the next night. Better storytelling for me. Particularly when (if it is Naito), he has the set up for the Ibushi match because he beat him last time he wrestled him. What has earned him an IWGP title shot to this point? He didn't win the G1 and has lost to Okada at 2 dome's already.

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    kishin liger/suzuki at KOPW? rematch as jushin thunder vs suzuki at the dome? or do they go with a more traditional junior opponent for the actual retirement match?

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    I've always assumed Liger would be wrestling Hiromu at the Dome

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    Jay White is now the IWGP IC champion....yay.....

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    So... Liger paints his face even though its always under a mask in public?

    Makes sense...?

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    Jay White is an immense bore.

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    The first official match is the main event on January 4th.

    Kazuchika Okada makes his v5 defense against Kota Ibushi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    The first official match is the main event on January 4th.

    Kazuchika Okada makes his v5 defense against Kota Ibushi
    I can't wait. Going to be an incredible match.

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    Ibushi is the man!

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    2nd confirmed match for 1/4

    Liger/Tatsumi Fujinami/Great Sasuke/Tiger Mask 4 with El Samurai in their corner vs Shinjro Otani/Naoki Sano/Tatsuhito Takaiwa/Ryuseke Taguchi with Kuniaki Kobayashi in their corner. Norio Honaga will be guest referee.
    Last edited by Defrost; October 15th, 2019 at 6:43 AM.

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    Cute. Seems Kanemoto is the only major Liger rival/ally not involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    2nd confirmed match for 1/4

    Liger/Tatsumi Fujinami/Great Sasuke/Tiger Mask 4 with El Samurai in their corner vs Shinjro Otani/Naoki Sano/Tatsuhito Takaiwa/Ryuseke Taguchi with Kuniaki Kobayashi in their corner. Norio Honaga will be guest referee.
    Incredible. I love that El Samurai will be part of it. When I was a young teen, I saw his pic in a PWI 500 and fell in love. I honestly never saw a match of his until sometime in the mid 2000's I think. Just loved his look and name.

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    Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Chris Jericho
    Will Ospreay vs Hiromu Takahashi
    ELP/Ishimori vs RPG3K

    Matches officially coming out of Power Struggle

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    it seems odd to dilute what should be the big story of ibushi finally winning the iwgp title with this double champ thing. save that gimmick for a year when you don't have a really big and meaningful main event like okada/ibushi.

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    I don't think Ibushi is beating Okada

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    yeah, ibushi just signed a lifetime contract, i dont think they're 'hotshotting' it onto him right away. i imagine an ibushi loss to help progress his story and naito going over okada for both belts to close that circle.

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    Although it is kinda funny that the one guy who has zero interest in being double champion will make it to the double title match

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    Official for 1/4 White vs Naito, Hiromu vs Will.

    Official for 1/5 World Title vs IC Title, loser of the two title matches against each other, ELP/Ishimori vs R3K, Jericho vs Tana

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    News for the World Tag League Final

    Moxley showed up and challenged Lance Archer to a Texas Death Match for the US Title
    Dragon Lee, now Ryu Lee as Ryu means Dragon in Japanese, challenged Jushin Liger for 1/5. Liger accepted, but then added he also wanted to wrestle Hiroumu on the same show.
    FinJuice won the league and challenged GOD for the Dome

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    I hope GOD has a better showing in Japan than he did in that tag match with HBK...

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    EVIL/SANADA vs ISHII/YOSHI-HASHI would be a fun match!

    also, assuming we'll see KENTA vs GOTO

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    There was an angle backstage today where SANADA was attacked by ZSJ. So that's the Dome match.

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    Full cards

    NJPW "WRESTLE KINGDOM 14 IN TOKYO DOME", 04.01.2020
    Tokyo Dome

    1. Jushin Thunder Liger Retirement Match I: Jushin Thunder Liger, Tatsumi Fujinami , Great Sasuke & Tiger Mask with El Samurai vs. Naoki Sano, Shinjiro Otani , Tatsuhito Takaiwa & Ryusuke Taguchi with Kuniaki Kobayashi
    2. Special Eight Man Tag Match: "King of Darkness" EVIL, SANADA, Hiromu Takahashi & BUSHI vs. Minoru Suzuki, Zack Sabre Jr., Taichi & El Desperado
    3. Special Eight Man Tag Match: Hirooki Goto, Tomohiro Ishii, Toru Yano & YOSHI-HASHI vs. KENTA, Bad Luck Fale, Yujiro Takahashi & Chase Owens
    4. IWGP Tag Team Title: Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa (c) vs. Juice Robinson & David Finlay
    5. IWGP US Heavyweight Title, Texas Death Match: Lance Archer (c) vs. Jon Moxley
    6. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title: Will Ospreay (c) vs. Hiromu Takahashi
    7. IWGP Intercontinental Title: Jay White (c) vs. Tetsuya Naito
    8. IWGP Heavyweight Title: Kazuchika Okada (c) vs. Kota Ibushi


    NJPW "WRESTLE KINGDOM 14 IN TOKYO DOME", 05.01.2020
    Tokyo Dome

    1. Jushin Thunder Liger Retirement Match II: Jushin Thunder Liger & Naoki Sano with Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs. Hiromu Takahashi & Ryu Lee
    2. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Title: Taiji Ishimori & El Phantasmo (c) vs. SHO & YOH
    3. British Heavyweight Title: Zack Sabre Jr. (c) vs. SANADA
    4. IWGP US Heavyweight Title: Sieger Moxley/Archer (c) vs. Juice Robinson
    5. NEVER Openweight Title: KENTA (c) vs. Hirooki Goto
    6. Special Singles Match: Verlierer Okada/Ibushi vs. Verlierer White/Naito
    7. Special Singles Match: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Chris Jericho
    8. IWGP Heavyweight Title & IWGP Intercontinental Title: Sieger Okada/Ibushi (c) vs. Sieger White/Naito (c)

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    I really like that second liger match

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    meh, rather he finished in a 1v1

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    Damn those are some strong cards. I would love to see Naito get the W and go on to unify the World and IC title the following night. That would be amazing.

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    I haven't been watching for a while but Archer/Moxley should be fun as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Damn those are some strong cards. I would love to see Naito get the W and go on to unify the World and IC title the following night. That would be amazing.
    yeah, okada winning seems really boring. i think ibushi's first g1 to the dome should end in him winning the title but i guess that's not happening, and honestly i haven't been too excited about ibushi this year anyway. nor naito in his broken down state but he needs the big win.

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    just noticed they are actually still doing new year dash on the 6th. cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    just noticed they are actually still doing new year dash on the 6th. cool.
    For some reason I thought the 5th was the Dash show and homeboy just forgot to change it in his post lol. So we have a 2-day WrestleKingdom AND NYDash? Insane.

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    Interesting that they're offering 2 streamlined cards, and good. There was a fear that they'd offer bloated cards that would tire everybody out a la Wrestlemania weekend. No need for mass double duty or shoe-horning regular singles matches on the card. Still hope there's a Rumble on night 2 seeing as how there's so many decent wrestlers not doing anything significant - Shingo, Suzuki, Ishii, EVIL, Taichi, the dad's - thst it could be quite a fun one.

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    Hiroshi Tanahashi and Will Ospreay only working one show each is kinda the most interesting thing to me

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    so tanahashi says should be beat jericho at the dome, he'll 'open the forbidden door' and ask for an AEW title shot.

    makes the match at least that much more interesting.

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    There will be a Stardom offer match on 1/4. It will be a dark match though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    so tanahashi says should be beat jericho at the dome, he'll 'open the forbidden door' and ask for an AEW title shot.

    makes the match at least that much more interesting.
    Jericho has responded to this.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B6nqekohg_y/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    Jericho has responded to this.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B6nqekohg_y/
    curious. i wonder if this is even a possibility.

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    I just take it to mean Jericho is winning

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    my instinct before any of this was jericho winning, cause i feel like he needs a win if he's going to keep being used, so that tracks. but why introduce the title into it. i'd get if jericho initiated it, cause why not, there's nothing to lose, but it coming from tana just makes me scratch my head.

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    So New Japan has acknowledged this whole thing and that is now the official stip of the match. If Tana beats Jericho he gets a shot at the AEW World Title.

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    would be very cool to have that as a dynamite main event.

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    You can get a trilogy match out of it too, which probably helps with getting big match mileage out of Tanahashi. Either at Dominion or next year's Dome, maybe with a Tanahashi retirement stip.

    Still in two minds whether to get NJPW World back for this. The card's are great, but it seems a lot of it is treading on old ground. The double title matches are the G1 block finals, and the winning combinations would either have been done numerous times in 2019 (Naito/Ibushi), done at the Dome twice already (Okada/Naito), a G1 final rematch (White/Ibushi) or happened on the 2 biggest events last year (Okada/White). All the ground has been covered. I feel Naito should have avenged the White loss then Ospreay comes out to challenge him, with Takahashi returning against Lee. White is great but he doesn't fit the top of the card in New Japan for me.

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    It works out at £3.67 for each show Batter. You might as well. Even if you just dipped in and picked out what you fancied the look of. I've signed back up today.

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    i'm going to try to stay up/wake up to watch the 1/4 show live. probably just watch the 1/5 the next morning.

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    I will be staying up both nights and watching both shows. In fact I may be taking a nap soon. I will be around to chat during the show if anyone else is watching. I will probably be on twitter as well. We shall see. Probably will help me stay awake

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    only got about an hour of sleep in, but i've watched these live since 2014 so i must continue.

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    liger match was a lot of fun. i'll definitely stay up at least to watch his last match at the beginning of tomorrow's show.

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    Old man match ruled.

    Now for Suzuki's last hurrah before he leaves for NOAH

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    Holy shit Ishii hitting that on Fale.

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    Archer throwing a dude at Mox was awesome

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    agreed

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    That was fun

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    Well that lived up to the hype

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    Hell of a show. Watched the whole thing. Enjoyable stuff up until Archer/Mox. From then on things just went crazy.

    Not much of note on the pre-show but was fun to see a bunch of young lions I don't think I've seen and Henare picking up the fall suggests he'll be in for something of a push in 2020. The legends tag was fun as you'd expect.

    Dome seemed packed. Apparently they opened up extra seats to take the attendance over 40k which would make it the best attended dome show since...? Defrost? A long time anyway.

    Liger retirement part 1 was a blast. As Kevin Kelly said the entrances were enough, the match was a bonus! Enjoyed everyone breaking out their signature holds, Sano and Ohtani especially looked like they were working extra hard. I thought Liger might pick up the win here and celebrate with his old friends and rivals before tomorrow's more "serious" match but he gave up the fall here too. Nice.

    8-man tags were fine build for tomorrow. Not much else to note but I do find myself having more interest in ZSJ/Sanada and KENTA/Goto now so I guess that's the main thing.

    Actually enjoyed the tag title match a fair bit. Juice and Finlay are a lot of fun together. Not sure what happens from here with them or if the titles end up back on GoD ready for them to drop them to someone else next year but we'll see.

    From Moxley and Archer's entrances onwards the show really picked up. Archer and Moxley both come across so well in this setting. Completely demented. Archer reaches in to his back pocket and you're wondering what's in the bag and then everyone suddenly realises IT'S A PLASTIC BAG. Nasty. This match was sufficiently brutal and I found myself wanting more but with what came next it was probably smart that they ended it when they did. Enjoyable brawl and a nice change of pace.

    Ospreay/Hiromu was insane. Big expectations but it completely delivered and then some. Ospreay is an incredible performer but his lack of restraint sometimes frustrates me. He was really great here though. In the Tokyo Dome this is the kind of match you should be having. His targeting of Hiromu's neck was brutal. Hiromu's comebacks were electrifying.

    White/Naito was also terrific. Of the three biggest matches on this show, this one seems to have the most detractors which is probably unsurprising as White isn't as eye-catching as the rest but I thought he looked great in this match. It was fun to get behind Naito against such a dickhead. Anyway this probably could've done with being cut by 5 minutes or so but the opening minutes topped the opening minutes of Okada/Ibushi for me and it was an super entertaining match full of great moments.

    Main Event was insane. Brutal, bombastic and perhaps overly long but if ever there is a time to have a match like that it's at your biggest show of the year in front of the biggest crowd. Ibushi's performance in his first dome main event was quite special. They really had me thinking he might just do it and move on to face Naito tomorrow but he couldn't quite do it. Hard to watch at times. Ridiculous bumps and head drops, Ibushi's legitimate (looking) fists and kicks, amazing sequences towards the end. An incredible epic that felt a bit like a combination of Okada's epic title defences against Omega and Shibata.
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    Ospreay vs. Takahashi was match of the night. I'm somebody that's completely phased out of high spot-centric wrestling when it's in multi-man situations (the Young Buck's, when they're not working straight tags, are unwatchable for me for example), but this was something else. The story with the neck and Ospreay feeling he's the stronger, more athletic man against the smaller Hiromu coming off of injury. They played the injury well with the neck work, very focused. Some of the spots were just out of this world crisp. I can do without the choreographed nonsense where they miss kicks and whips and do the staredown because it's basically just a modern extension of the hip toss sequences from the 90's, but all the significant counter stuff looked absolutely impeccable. The fluidity of the Sasuke Special sequence in particular was mesmerising, and the Destroyer counter by Takahashi. Smart finish too, bringing in a new (old) finish. Tribute to Misawa in the 10th year after his death maybe?

    Jay White is actually really, really great and might be the best wrestler in the company, but I don't think he fits the company if that makes sense? I think there's the best WWE heel title reign in decades in him, I just don't think he's an IWGP champion. Maybe he doesn't have the goodwill to carry the early portions of these New Japan epics? Perhaps that will come in time. He has grown an absolute shit tonne since his return a couple of years ago. The leg work was really focused but I feel it was hurt by NJPW matches never really ending by submission. I think if they put White over with an STF or something it could have changed the game when it comes to finishes. Alas, the work was good and the last 10 minutes were pretty special, with Naito winning as expected.

    Okada vs. Ibushi kicked into another gear with Ibushi turning into a nutter. That gave the match the narrative it lacked early, then it kicked into a ridiculously good scrap after that. Kota is a special talent, and he's really fucking good at being a nasty bastard. Particularly for such a handsome swine. I hope he goes full rogue at New Year's Dash after another loss tomorrow, kicks the shit out of everybody in the New Japan Cup and takes the title off Naito after that. I don't think you can crown him as the top babyface anymore. We've seen signs of him being a ruthless killer and think that's the way to get him to the title. Imagine the heat of a post-G1 Tanahashi title defence where he's kicking the shit out of the poor old Ace. Okada vs. Naito is the match it should be, and even though it'll feel more of a "cheers mate" title change rather than a coronation for Naito as Ace, the fans will surely go apeshit. They still love that guy, even if his act isn't as memorable as it was even a year ago.

    I didn't watch anything else as I got set up late, but will put on Mox/Archer and the Liger match some time tomorrow I imagine. I like the Day 2 card better, it's got a little less filler and feel it will have the memorable moments of the weekend - Naito finally winning, Shibata getting involved, the Jericho/Tanahashi story and Liger's final match should all be banging. I'll be watching the whole of this card, possibly live.

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    Yeah, on paper tomorrow looks the stronger show all over. Wasn't really a lot to shout about for the first 6 matches of this show (although I do much prefer the more traditional format of smaller matches building to the biggest ones at the end to WWE's modern day "BIG MATCH, small match, BIG MATCH, small match" format personally). Day two could be great throughout.

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