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    WWE Monday Night RAW (Becky Returns) February 11th, 2019

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    WELCOME TO



    TONIGHT!










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    THE EMPIRE STRIKES BECKY



    After being suspended, Becky Lynch has suspiciously been invited back to RAW. What does Stephanie have up her disarmored sleeve?





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    RETIREMENT ANGLE?



    Last week, Kurt went from seeming to hang it up to main eventing RAW. Will standing tall with the monster among men change his mind?





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    NATALYA VS. DANA



    Last week, Dana Brooke was going to go to the McMahons and ask for a match against Natalya to prove herself. Is she going to get it?





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    SIX DAYS UNTIL THE CHAMBER




    It's the last stop for the red brand before the Elimination Chamber, where Ronda faces Ruby Riott, and RAW's three qualifying women's teams clash with SmackDown to crown the first ever women's tag champions. With the PPV card still being formed, what other matches could we see at the event? Will Balor get his shot against Lashley? What of the number one tag contenders The Revival? Will they get a shot against American Glory? Could Angle, Strowman, McIntyre & Corbin have a rematch? Or is something else in the cards?

























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    Wish stone cold would walk down the ramp with Becky at WM

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    Pure fire from Becky tonight.

    They giving Bayley some sort of renewed push? She just ran everyone out there. Oh I see why now and makes sense.

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    Nice match. I doubt the one in the Chamber will be half as good.

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    I'm assuming Sasha and Bayley are going to be in the EC from bell to bell...
    They seem like the team to carry the match...

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    Haha nice botch

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    Quote Originally Posted by rom7878 View Post
    Haha nice botch
    I almost think road dogg is doing this on purpose. False intro after false intro.

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    Yea they are doing it on purpose

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    Poor Elias. Still in the same spot as last year, and the year before that. I thought his face turn would finally lead to bigger things. I can't remember who posted it, but they said a guy with this kind of gimmick is always going to be stuck in the mid-card. Elias has already peaked.

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    We need a six man tag...

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    I smell the main event...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Poor Elias. Still in the same spot as last year, and the year before that. I thought his face turn would finally lead to bigger things. I can't remember who posted it, but they said a guy with this kind of gimmick is always going to be stuck in the mid-card. Elias has already peaked.
    Counterpoint...
    Elias doesn't need to be a main eventer to have a long and great career...
    Look at Goldust for example...

    Even if Elias never wins the world title, mid card and tag titles could be in his future...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Casey View Post
    Counterpoint...
    Elias doesn't need to be a main eventer to have a long and great career...
    Look at Goldust for example...

    Even if Elias never wins the world title, mid card and tag titles could be in his future...
    Also Elias is working in an era where to be a top guy, one who isn't seven feet tall, you need to be able to wrestle your ass off and he hasn't shown much of an ability to do that.

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    Nikki Cross's music does not work for her at all.

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    Kevin lost a lot of weight

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    That seemed like a babyface promo from KO. I hope that's the direction they're headed.

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    Nikki Cross rules. Bummer the crowd is dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Casey View Post
    Counterpoint...
    Elias doesn't need to be a main eventer to have a long and great career...
    Look at Goldust for example...

    Even if Elias never wins the world title, mid card and tag titles could be in his future...
    That's a fair point. It's not a bad spot to be in. However "could" is the operative word. Elias is another guy they seem to start and stop with. Just when you think he's gaining momentum, he's back to square one. Fans want to cheer the guy, but now he's a heel again for some inexplicable reason. He hasn't been on the main roster 2 yrs. yet, so there's still time for Elias to make his mark.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    Also Elias is working in an era where to be a top guy, one who isn't seven feet tall, you need to be able to wrestle your ass off and he hasn't shown much of an ability to do that.
    I don't necessarily think Elias should be World Champion. His matches do tend to fall flat. He'd be perfect holding the US or IC titles. I also think Elias would flourish in the Tag Team division. He and KO had good chemistry. They would make for a pretty entertaining act if it became something long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    That's a fair point. It's not a bad spot to be in. However "could" is the operative word. Elias is another guy they seem to start and stop with. Just when you think he's gaining momentum, he's back to square one. Fans want to cheer the guy, but now he's a heel again for some inexplicable reason. He hasn't been on the main roster 2 yrs. yet, so there's still time for Elias to make his mark.



    I don't necessarily think Elias should be World Champion. His matches do tend to fall flat. He'd be perfect holding the US or IC titles. I also think Elias would flourish in the Tag Team division. He and KO had good chemistry. They would make for a pretty entertaining act if it became something long term.
    I like Elias a lot.

    But honestly he needs to keep working on his shit. If he can get it together I'd be okay with him holding the IC belt.

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    Tremendous promo from my boy.

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    I still don't know where there going with Dean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    Would be better if it was Edge & Christian...

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    Though almost everything about wrestling/wrestlers would be better if it was Edge and Christian.

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    Should Cole be flat out stating that Roode and Gable were "thrown together"?

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    Fuck, that match

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    That turned into a hell of a match. Good for The Revival. Gable is a workhorse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    Should Cole be flat out stating that Roode and Gable were "thrown together"?
    Cole saying "thrown together" makes it sound like they just started tagging. They've been together for almost 6 months. Cesaro and Sheamus were literally thrown together and look how they turned out.

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    I still don't like the idea of the three way match but I have to admit I'm enjoying the build.

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    I kind of hope they'll still do Becky/Rhonda, and have Charlotte and Becky fight it out at Fastlane...

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    It was inevitable, I guess. Match will still be great.

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    What an odd episode.

    It feels like they showed a little bit of the slippery slope they have to work through, primarily with the Becky and Ronda talking segment during the Nikki and Ruby match. Like, that's a big deal that they're talking backstage and it was good to cut away from the match because that was happening but it was way overproduced. Should have had Cole saying they have to cut away from the match because he was being told something big was happening backstage and have a camera running up to them in mid conversation and going from there. It felt like it like it was a nothing segment based on how it was like 10-15 seconds of conversation, tops, with commentary.

    It was sloppy for KO to declare he was coming back in a month and it wasn't treated as that big of a deal. It was just a transition piece. In both the ladies and KO situation, that wasn't shown to the live audience or they absolutely no sold them. Weird.

    Very convenient trope to use the extra referee to right the wrong with Bálor in the six-man tag. Makes it seem silly when they don't do that in other instances. And what the heck was the multiple intros for Elias. Way to have that happen and clearly avoid addressing it.

    Tough breaks for Smackdown with the Survivor Series but their tag teams didn't have to earn a shot in the chamber and a Raw team was guaranteed to have the toughest path by having to compete to avoid losing so they wouldn't be the first team in the ring. I almost want another Raw tag team to start the match so they lay it on thick.

    The Rollins/Heyman/Ambrose stuff was too long (shocker) but I thought it was effective. They went ahead and added more confusion with Dean working underneath a lot in his match with EC3 and then winning clean and not really conveying him as a despicable heel.

    Definitely feels like they're now setting up The Revival to take the fall for a perceived heartwarming win and championship run with Hawkins and Ryder. It feels like Raw doesn't know how to book the tag division without the crutch of a quirky/silly face tag team in a spot of prominence. Good tag match tonight, though.
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    We all know we're getting Becky and Rousey in the main event, so this tease of Becky maybe not being in it because of her suspension is totally pointless. The fans just want it to be a one on one match, and so Charlotte being added into the mix now just seems like she's tacked on like a glob of gum. I love Charlotte and think she's better than Becky, but it just being Becky and Ronda would be the best and sharpest choice here.

    God, leave it up to WWE to maybe not fully nail the landing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Casey View Post
    I kind of hope they'll still do Becky/Rhonda, and have Charlotte and Becky fight it out at Fastlane...
    I'm assuming that happens but fearful it's going to end in a no contest/double dq/countout.

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    I'm just not into all this McMahon involvement. They claimed they wanted to shake things up, but it's just the same old tired bs with them.

    RAW was worth it for that Tag match. It was fire

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    Yeah, the Macmans being in the way was stale years ago and today it just doesn't make things better or hotter. I just wish they would let the roster fight amongst themselves and not be there just to antagonize the crowd favorite. It's like somebody blocking your view during a movie.

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    Becky hijacks Ric Flair's bday.
    Becky vs Charlotte @ Fastlane, winner faces Ronda. Some bullshit no/double finish. Thus giving us the triple threat.

    Only thing that annoys me that it makes winning the Royal Rumble completely irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    I'm just not into all this McMahon involvement. They claimed they wanted to shake things up, but it's just the same old tired bs with them.

    RAW was worth it for that Tag match. It was fire
    Cause of Strowman?

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    Seeing this play out, I still stand with my general assessment from a few weeks ago: I'd much rather see Becky/Ronda straight up, but I understand the reasoning for Charlotte to be added and probably be inserted at Mania to make it a triple threat. I especially understand it if they're stubborn. Ronda is getting booed whenever she deals with Becky but they're not going to turn her so there needs to be a heat magnet that leans into it and that's Charlotte. You've got your surefire face (Becky), your tweener (Ronda), and heel (Charlotte). If Ronda is taking some kind of sabbatical after Mania, I get them wanting to go into it having more darts to throw at the board in terms of elevating their talent by having two opponents for Ronda. The thing this, they need to see it through. I don't need Becky to tap Charlotte out because that really doesn't max out the moment. In a sense of karma, Charlotte needs to have Ronda in a position to tap but Becky takes Charlotte out and then Becky taps Ronda out. That makes Ronda look strong, having to take two finishers in order to tap, Charlotte looks like she was primed for the moment, and the feel-good moment is preserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream-Evil View Post
    Becky hijacks Ric Flair's bday.
    Becky vs Charlotte @ Fastlane, winner faces Ronda. Some bullshit no/double finish. Thus giving us the triple threat.

    Only thing that annoys me that it makes winning the Royal Rumble completely irrelevant.
    But Becky is suspended for 60 days. So she can't hijack Ric Flair's birthday, she can't face Charlotte at Fastlane, and she can't go on to Mania. Boy, that Mr. McMahon character is evil.

    Since the Royal Rumble was advertised as the winner gets to battle for the title at WrestleMania, they've made it irrelevant, and fans should cancel their network subscriptions in protest.


    The crowd was DEAD as far as I could tell, for everything except Braun's comeback and houseclearing. Bayley got a solid reaction for her in-ring work and she looked better than she has in a long time.

    I haven't been a big fan of the Revival, and I am not sure if it was because the RAW tag division simply is terrible, or if it was the lack of a reason to care about them because they never get promo time. Chad Gable has always been impressive in the ring but I think he has improved a lot, especially in the transition between spots - his movements are so much more natural, and fun to watch. They were given a lot of time for that match, and it helped them a lot.

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    So let's assess the new call-ups:

    Lacey: MIA since the Rumble.
    Lars: Clearly MIA and who knows if he's coming back.
    EC3: Probably booked on both sides of the fence already and a nice talker...who has barely talked on the main roster.
    Nikki: Clearly being kept away from the rest of her faction and just a random woman right now.
    Heavy Machinery: Lost half of their names and slowly coming around.

    There's likely more coming in two months after Mania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Cause of Strowman?
    Sorry Donald, I meant the Tag Title match. Strowman's always entertaining though.

    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Seeing this play out, I still stand with my general assessment from a few weeks ago: I'd much rather see Becky/Ronda straight up, but I understand the reasoning for Charlotte to be added and probably be inserted at Mania to make it a triple threat. I especially understand it if they're stubborn. Ronda is getting booed whenever she deals with Becky but they're not going to turn her so there needs to be a heat magnet that leans into it and that's Charlotte. You've got your surefire face (Becky), your tweener (Ronda), and heel (Charlotte). If Ronda is taking some kind of sabbatical after Mania, I get them wanting to go into it having more darts to throw at the board in terms of elevating their talent by having two opponents for Ronda. The thing this, they need to see it through. I don't need Becky to tap Charlotte out because that really doesn't max out the moment. In a sense of karma, Charlotte needs to have Ronda in a position to tap but Becky takes Charlotte out and then Becky taps Ronda out. That makes Ronda look strong, having to take two finishers in order to tap, Charlotte looks like she was primed for the moment, and the feel-good moment is preserved.
    That would really bring things full circle and Becky would get her ultimate revenge on Charlotte. That just needs to be the end of the Becky/Charlotte feud. Put them on different shows after 'Mania.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    But Becky is suspended for 60 days. So she can't hijack Ric Flair's birthday, she can't face Charlotte at Fastlane, and she can't go on to Mania. Boy, that Mr. McMahon character is evil.

    Since the Royal Rumble was advertised as the winner gets to battle for the title at WrestleMania, they've made it irrelevant, and fans should cancel their network subscriptions in protest.


    The crowd was DEAD as far as I could tell, for everything except Braun's comeback and houseclearing. Bayley got a solid reaction for her in-ring work and she looked better than she has in a long time.


    I haven't been a big fan of the Revival, and I am not sure if it was because the RAW tag division simply is terrible, or if it was the lack of a reason to care about them because they never get promo time. Chad Gable has always been impressive in the ring but I think he has improved a lot, especially in the transition between spots - his movements are so much more natural, and fun to watch. They were given a lot of time for that match, and it helped them a lot.
    I doubt the crowd thought the Tag Title match would go the distance, but once they realized they were getting a PPV level match, they were into it.

    Bayley's an interesting case. People have said she's not very good, but the thing is, I've noticed it takes her a while to get going. She tends to do better in longer matches. Maybe she's just a slow starter

    Gable's a workhorse. I wish they'd continued his singles push, but It's easy to drift in WWE when you're on your own, so I don't really mind putting him with Roode. Gable will probably end up like Cesaro and be a staple in the Tag Division for the majority of his career. It's not a bad spot to be in, but I would love to see Gable vs Styles, Gable vs Bryan, Gable vs Rollins, etc. He's a guy who could tear the house down with almost anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    So let's assess the new call-ups:

    Lacey: MIA since the Rumble.
    Lars: Clearly MIA and who knows if he's coming back.
    EC3: Probably booked on both sides of the fence already and a nice talker...who has barely talked on the main roster.
    Nikki: Clearly being kept away from the rest of her faction and just a random woman right now.
    Heavy Machinery: Lost half of their names and slowly coming around.

    There's likely more coming in two months after Mania.
    Lacey: I can only speculate, but I wonder if Management saw Lacey's performance in the RR and realized she wasn't close to ready.
    Lars: So there's been no update on his status?
    EC3: No idea where they're going with EC3. Him not talking feels like some weird old school Vince thing. Just let him spar with Ambrose on the mic.
    Nikki: I never watched her in NXT outside of coming to the ring with Sanity, but I was under the impression she was pretty good. Since coming to main roster, all I've seen is the crazy antics. There has to be more to her, right?
    Heavy Machinery: They've got potential, but it feels like they're just going to be stuck as a comedy act.

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    Cross/Asuka in a Last Woman Standing match on NXT is one of the best women's matches on NXT since the Four Horsewomen were there. She can go, it's just that it seems like they only want NXT call ups to seem one dimensional anymore. It's really not that hard to let them show what they can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Lacey: I can only speculate, but I wonder if Management saw Lacey's performance in the RR and realized she wasn't close to ready.
    Lars: So there's been no update on his status?
    EC3: No idea where they're going with EC3. Him not talking feels like some weird old school Vince thing. Just let him spar with Ambrose on the mic.
    Nikki: I never watched her in NXT outside of coming to the ring with Sanity, but I was under the impression she was pretty good. Since coming to main roster, all I've seen is the crazy antics. There has to be more to her, right?
    Heavy Machinery: They've got potential, but it feels like they're just going to be stuck as a comedy act.
    Lacey wasn't that great in the Rumble, which is strange because I've seen her more as a struggle in terms of getting over verbally on the main roster and just kind of holding her own in the ring. Not great as a technician or anything but being competent.
    Lars had some kind of statement via a publicist or manager of some kind on Twitter but it was deleted.
    EC3 makes no sense at all right now.
    Nikki was pretty good in the ring in NXT and definitely showed a lot of variety/versatility with the eccentric side of the character and it's definitely watered down now.

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    Word on the street is Ambrose was scripted to say more last night about the Shield and Roman and didn't.

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    Why do the McMahon's have to insert themselves into every hot storyline?

    There are plenty of ways they could have got Charlotte into this match (which in itself is a mistake)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream-Evil View Post
    Becky hijacks Ric Flair's bday.
    Becky vs Charlotte @ Fastlane, winner faces Ronda. Some bullshit no/double finish. Thus giving us the triple threat.

    Only thing that annoys me that it makes winning the Royal Rumble completely irrelevant.
    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    But Becky is suspended for 60 days. So she can't hijack Ric Flair's birthday, she can't face Charlotte at Fastlane, and she can't go on to Mania. Boy, that Mr. McMahon character is evil.

    Since the Royal Rumble was advertised as the winner gets to battle for the title at WrestleMania, they've made it irrelevant, and fans should cancel their network subscriptions in protest.


    The crowd was DEAD as far as I could tell, for everything except Braun's comeback and houseclearing. Bayley got a solid reaction for her in-ring work and she looked better than she has in a long time.

    I haven't been a big fan of the Revival, and I am not sure if it was because the RAW tag division simply is terrible, or if it was the lack of a reason to care about them because they never get promo time. Chad Gable has always been impressive in the ring but I think he has improved a lot, especially in the transition between spots - his movements are so much more natural, and fun to watch. They were given a lot of time for that match, and it helped them a lot.
    ffs, it doesnt make the rumble win irrelevant. the whole story is becky being screwed out of what was rightfully hers. the crowd is supposed to be outraged for her, which puts more emotion on the idea of the rumble win. it's directly relevant to the storyline they're creating, cause she's still going to be in the match. the rumble win would be irrelevant if she was replaced in the match with no explanation and never was put back in. stop being whiney marks and think about shit for a second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    ffs, it doesnt make the rumble win irrelevant. the whole story is becky being screwed out of what was rightfully hers. the crowd is supposed to be outraged for her, which puts more emotion on the idea of the rumble win. it's directly relevant to the storyline they're creating, cause she's still going to be in the match. the rumble win would be irrelevant if she was replaced in the match with no explanation and never was put back in. stop being whiney marks and think about shit for a second.
    It also plays into her skepticism or paranoia that I mentioned last week. Some were saying she was stupid last week but this week clearly showed she had every right to be suspicious. She did exactly what they said and she still got burned. I think they've gotten off the rails a little bit with telling the story but the point is to get the crowd behind her more and I think they're doing that. Is it happening with the highest level of efficiency? Probably not, but they're still headed in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    We all know we're getting Becky and Rousey in the main event, so this tease of Becky maybe not being in it because of her suspension is totally pointless. The fans just want it to be a one on one match, and so Charlotte being added into the mix now just seems like she's tacked on like a glob of gum. I love Charlotte and think she's better than Becky, but it just being Becky and Ronda would be the best and sharpest choice here.

    God, leave it up to WWE to maybe not fully nail the landing.
    the speculated reasoning for putting charlotte in there is sound. with the prospect of ronda leaving soon they want to make sure they have two women who are there all the time that they can hype up as having been the first women to main event a mania. so the landing they're going for is being stuck just fine.

    the reveal of charlotte last night was actually pretty great even if everything else surrounding it was sloppy. the tension was great as everyone knew what was coming, and once vince announced her and becky started to storm around the ring, there was palpable emotion. they've done a great job of building up the animosity between all three women. we all know becky gets back into the match, but i dont think you get that emotional reaction if you just insert charlotte as a third. the faux suspension gives the narrative perspective of injustice and power abuse, which still works on some level despite the McMahon's driving the trope into the ground.

    i just dont like how they got there. the mcmahon authority was supposed to be this neutral force, but that barely lasted a month cause they cant help themselves. trips and steph being pissy for being attacked is reasonable enough but to go for the petty 'you gotta apologize to get what you want' shit even though it spits in the face of booking a giant match just takes two steps back.

    then to actually have her apologize even though the plan is for vince to be petty and still suspend her anyway is just a chop block to her character for no reason. it wont effect her in the long term, but why not have her say go screw and then trips and steph or even vince go 'we thought you might say that, so we'd like to introduce you to ronda's new opponent for wrestlemania' and boom introduce charlotte. it keeps becky as a badass who wont be manipulated and still gets them where they wanted to go with ample heat for charlotte for getting what becky earned. have becky start going off about how they had this whole thing planned from the jump, how apologizing wouldnt have changed a thing and they were dead set on getting the golden girl of the company into the match. then you just find some way to get her back in, probably by instigating shit with both ronda and charlotte to where they demand she gets put back in so they can get their hands on her.
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    As for the McMahons, I agree that having Steph and Trips demand that Becky apologize was incredibly petty and does nothing for either of their characters, and it only harms Becky's. The way she said it, though, I would have liked her to say "I'm man enough to apologize" and then as she shook Steph's hand, I was expecting her to hold onto it, pull Steph into her, pick Steph up and throw her into HHH.

    Perhaps they are trying to write Vince off of TV forever with this storyline. Steph and HHH will address Vince publicly and say his re-suspending of Becky is completely neutering them, and they are going to demand that he reinstate her. It will lead to them picking sides, Charlotte v. Becky, for control of all the WWE programming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    ffs, it doesnt make the rumble win irrelevant. the whole story is becky being screwed out of what was rightfully hers. the crowd is supposed to be outraged for her, which puts more emotion on the idea of the rumble win. it's directly relevant to the storyline they're creating, cause she's still going to be in the match. the rumble win would be irrelevant if she was replaced in the match with no explanation and never was put back in. stop being whiney marks and think about shit for a second.
    Its a weird one though, I mean have HHH and Stephanie done anything wrong at all? I get the whole don't trust them thing but Becky was being a bit of an arse about it.

    Its interesting though. I loved the show long storyline. Felt different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    the speculated reasoning for putting charlotte in there is sound. with the prospect of ronda leaving soon they want to make sure they have two women who are there all the time that they can hype up as having been the first women to main event a mania. so the landing they're going for is being stuck just fine.

    the reveal of charlotte last night was actually pretty great even if everything else surrounding it was sloppy. the tension was great as everyone knew what was coming, and once vince announced her and becky started to storm around the ring, there was palpable emotion. they've done a great job of building up the animosity between all three women. we all know becky gets back into the match, but i dont think you get that emotional reaction if you just insert charlotte as a third. the faux suspension gives the narrative perspective of injustice and power abuse, which still works on some level despite the McMahon's driving the trope into the ground.

    i just dont like how they got there. the mcmahon authority was supposed to be this neutral force, but that barely lasted a month cause they cant help themselves. trips and steph being pissy for being attacked is reasonable enough but to go for the petty 'you gotta apologize to get what you want' shit even though it spits in the face of booking a giant match just takes two steps back.

    then to actually have her apologize even though the plan is for vince to be petty and still suspend her anyway is just a chop block to her character for no reason. it wont effect her in the long term, but why not have her say go screw and then trips and steph or even vince go 'we thought you might say that, so we'd like to introduce you to ronda's new opponent for wrestlemania' and boom introduce charlotte. it keeps becky as a badass who wont be manipulated and still gets them where they wanted to go with ample heat for charlotte for getting what becky earned. have becky start going off about how they had this whole thing planned from the jump, how apologizing wouldnt have changed a thing and they were dead set on getting the golden girl of the company into the match. then you just find some way to get her back in, probably by instigating shit with both ronda and charlotte to where they demand she gets put back in so they can get their hands on her.
    Yeah, I just don't get WWE's habit of complicating things when the path to WM is already pretty set in stone. Becky's going, storyline be danged, and Charlotte being added kind of takes away some of the thunder from Becky if/when she beats Rousey. It all comes down to preference and mine is that it should be Becky and Becky alone that goes up against the champion and comes out victorious. There being a third person kind of means Becky wins but only because it took Charlotte (in addition) to loosen the cap for her. She's climbed the mountain to get here and she shouldn't have to race Charlotte to the top because Vince wants there to be more drama.

    Like you said, and I agree, the Macman stuff just shouldn't be a thing here. If we know Becky's getting back in somehow someway... then why even have the suspension to begin with? It's a wake me up when we get there type of scenario.

    I love Charlotte, but I think when looking at it from a storyline perspective it would have been more interesting having her sit out the main event and having her stew about being jipped the once in a lifetime spot. She'd be furious about it until the end of time and she'll never forgive Becky for it. Yada yada yada.

    WRESTLING!
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    Becky's clearly going to talk to Shane and have him bring up the lockbox again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Becky's clearly going to talk to Shane and have him bring up the lockbox again...
    A McMahon in every corner...

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    I presumed we were headed down that road for a match on the card before Miz and Shane were doing their thing but it's a terrible idea for this match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    Its a weird one though, I mean have HHH and Stephanie done anything wrong at all? I get the whole don't trust them thing but Becky was being a bit of an arse about it.

    Its interesting though. I loved the show long storyline. Felt different.
    Even with the McMahon's history, Steph seemed pretty reasonable in asking Becky to get checked out. When she said "I won't be held accountable for my actions" after Steph talked about suspending her, that was going too far. I'm not really digging this jerk character of Becky, where she's taking pages out of the Stone Cold DTA playbook. Her issues were with Charlotte getting opportunities handed to her. That was finished when she beat her for the Smackdown Women's Title and then defended it. There's really no reason for her to personally distrust the McMahons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot View Post
    Word on the street is Ambrose was scripted to say more last night about the Shield and Roman and didn't.

    My man.
    You should've started that with "I'm hearing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    the speculated reasoning for putting charlotte in there is sound. with the prospect of ronda leaving soon they want to make sure they have two women who are there all the time that they can hype up as having been the first women to main event a mania. so the landing they're going for is being stuck just fine.

    the reveal of charlotte last night was actually pretty great even if everything else surrounding it was sloppy. the tension was great as everyone knew what was coming, and once vince announced her and becky started to storm around the ring, there was palpable emotion. they've done a great job of building up the animosity between all three women. we all know becky gets back into the match, but i dont think you get that emotional reaction if you just insert charlotte as a third. the faux suspension gives the narrative perspective of injustice and power abuse, which still works on some level despite the McMahon's driving the trope into the ground.

    i just dont like how they got there. the mcmahon authority was supposed to be this neutral force, but that barely lasted a month cause they cant help themselves. trips and steph being pissy for being attacked is reasonable enough but to go for the petty 'you gotta apologize to get what you want' shit even though it spits in the face of booking a giant match just takes two steps back.

    then to actually have her apologize even though the plan is for vince to be petty and still suspend her anyway is just a chop block to her character for no reason. it wont effect her in the long term, but why not have her say go screw and then trips and steph or even vince go 'we thought you might say that, so we'd like to introduce you to ronda's new opponent for wrestlemania' and boom introduce charlotte. it keeps becky as a badass who wont be manipulated and still gets them where they wanted to go with ample heat for charlotte for getting what becky earned. have becky start going off about how they had this whole thing planned from the jump, how apologizing wouldnt have changed a thing and they were dead set on getting the golden girl of the company into the match. then you just find some way to get her back in, probably by instigating shit with both ronda and charlotte to where they demand she gets put back in so they can get their hands on her.
    That would have been really good. Much better than what they did. Having Becky say she's sorry then screw her over. It cut her nuts off a little, so to speak.

    There seems to be a trend of trying to go for pity with the female babyfaces. That's okay once in a while but pity isn't something that often gets me pumped up for a match. I think if creative took a step back they'd see that they're only going that route because it's a woman. I don't think it's intentional but it does seem to keep happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    You should've started that with "I'm hearing".
    You should have started that with, "I'm Rancid_Planet and I don't know that periods go inside the quotation marks."

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    As much as I'm disappointed that we won't get Becky vs Rhonda one-on-one (again), the match could be even better with Charlotte added, as Rhonda has unfinished business with her, in regards to Survivor Series last year. Main event is approaching HBK vs HHH vs Benoit levels from Wrestlemania XX for me. Definitely more interesting than Seth Rollins versus Brock for me.

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