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    And so the Texans fire their GM Brian Gaine after all of one full season on the job.

    This 'organization' is so perpetually difficult to root for.

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    I know nothing of the guy but I'd say that with Deshaun and Hopkins, and a few more good years of JJ Watt hopefully, they should be in win now mode. If they thought Gaine didn't get the job done in terms of depth building and in-season moves, or he wasn't on the same page with BOB, then maybe it's better to cut ties now.

    All I know is keep your paws off Nick Caserio. I doubt the Pats would let him leave. Not that they would contractually hold him I just think tt they would match whatever price he gets offered. He's integral and Belichick praises him all the time. 18 years he's been with the team now.

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    Rumor is that Gaine has shown too much passivity in his short time for the likes of the new Mr. McNair. Fair argument, but it was still so very sudden. And it ultimately means that O'Brien is under just as much pressure to produce now or he's in McNair's ear trying to gain as much control as he can. Hopefully the former, of course.

    Caserio is absolutely their number 1 target.

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    good choice, I'll watch.

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    Who's taking bets for how many times Antonio Brown screams GET THAT F*CKING CAMERA OUT OF MY FACE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    Who's taking bets for how many times Antonio Brown screams GET THAT F*CKING CAMERA OUT OF MY FACE!
    I'll put the over/under at five.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Rumor is that Gaine has shown too much passivity in his short time for the likes of the new Mr. McNair. Fair argument, but it was still so very sudden. And it ultimately means that O'Brien is under just as much pressure to produce now or he's in McNair's ear trying to gain as much control as he can. Hopefully the former, of course.

    Caserio is absolutely their number 1 target.
    The Patriots filed tampering charges Wednesday against the Houston Texans for the attempted general manager hire of Nick Caserio, league sources told ESPN. The NFL now is expected to gather relevant informant to open its investigation against Houston.

    Texans: ďSo, is that a no on the interview?Ē


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    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...rican-football

    A play-by-play of the utter disaster known as the AAF. I find it interesting how poorly planned and managed it was from the start. At no point in this article did it ever seem like something that had a possibility of success. Perhaps this is where things went wrong:

    One day, Charlie ran the rough idea past his dad. You need to talk to two people, Dick replied: John Madden and Bill Polian.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    The Patriots filed tampering charges Wednesday against the Houston Texans for the attempted general manager hire of Nick Caserio, league sources told ESPN. The NFL now is expected to gather relevant informant to open its investigation against Houston.

    Texans: “So, is that a no on the interview?”

    Reports here, from all over really, are that we want him and he wants to be here, so just a matter of either fighting the tampering charges or forking over a midround pick to just seal the deal.

    Not the most graceful way of going about this, but given how uncoordinated this FO is most of the time ... fuck, I'll take it.

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    Sorry but he’s ours

    In fact for trying to pry him away I sentence you to have no GM at all.

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    No contest.

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    Apparently the plan now is to go all in on Caserio after this season once his contract is up with NE. To which I imagine a scenario something like -

    his contract runs out, he's brought in to discuss the position, the Texans divulge everything about the organization, he tells them to fuck themselves and reports back everything he learns to Belichick while he and the pats celebrate his new contract with them over cognac and many laughs at the ineptitude of this team.

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    so what are you gonna do

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    How regular is it that NFL teams sign CFL players?

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    I wouldn't say it is regular, but it is not unusual.

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    Is it week 1 of preseason yet ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Is it week 1 of preseason yet ffs
    almost there! I always say I can't wait for football but then I know summer is over which I don't like lol.

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    Is it the conference championship round yet ffs

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    Just week 1 regular season is needed. I have bets i'll need to get in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    almost there! I always say I can't wait for football but then I know summer is over which I don't like lol.
    Yeah true, we’ve had some boss weather in UK too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Is it the conference championship round yet ffs

    Is it Patriots losing in Miami week yet?

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    Pats can lose in Miami all they want if they keep winning Super Bowls

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    Melvin Gordon holdout watch 2019. Will the Chargers cave and pay him, will another team trade and sign him, or will he sit out the year? Fantasy football drafters await.

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    Perhaps he will learn from Bell's experience sitting out a season, that running backs are extremely replaceable

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    I like the idea of the league shortening the length of rookie contracts for rb's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    Perhaps he will learn from Bell's experience sitting out a season, that running backs are extremely replaceable
    yea, idk. he should learn from bell that his value is probably not what he wants it to be, so if the chargers offer him an extension that's reasonable maybe he should take it. but I'm not sure what the chargers have offered. if it's nothing reasonable, sitting out may be the correct move.

    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    I like the idea of the league shortening the length of rookie contracts for rb's.
    it would seem odd to shorten it for only a certain position.

    my main feeling here is that whatever action he and his agent agree to take is perfectly reasonable. people saying he or Le'Veon shouldn't sit out, or should accept a certain deal for which we don't even know the fine print, is pretty asinine. I've never had a job where my role is to literally to have other giant athletes damage and destroy my body, causing long term and permanent destruction, and it's hard to put myself in their shoes. sitting out a year to lower your financial risk certainly seems viable. if he gets seriously hurt and never gets that second contract, that's a nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    it would seem odd to shorten it for only a certain position.
    It honestly would, but that certain position is already unique in how it's so often chewed up and spit out just as a usual rookie deal is up.

    Idk, just a suggestion I'd heard by one talking head or another (Jalen Rose?) that I was intrigued by.

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    4 Players Have Received A 99 Overall Rating In Madden NFL 20

    Three defensive players earned a 99 overall rating: Los Angeles Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald, Chicago Bears pass rusher Khalil Mack, and Seattle Seahawks inside linebacker Bobby Wagner.

    The fourth player Ė and only offensive player Ė to make the list was Houston Texas wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins. Coming off career-highs in receptions, yards, and catch rate, Hopkins earned All-Pro honors for the second year in a row.
    Stoked for DHop.

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    All or Nothing & Last Chance U all watched this weekend.

    Got to say Cam Newton & Greg Olsen are sound blokes.

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    And Ron too.

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    Was actually funny that I thought.

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    football is back.



    it will be a sad day when this guy doesn't show up for training camp. enjoy it while it lasts.

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    Sterling Shepard fractured his thumb and Corey Coleman tore his ACL.

    If only the Giants had another receiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
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    it will be a sad day when this guy doesn't show up for training camp. enjoy it while it lasts.
    I’m counting down the days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Sterling Shepard fractured his thumb and Corey Coleman tore his ACL.

    If only the Giants had another receiver.
    Bad training camp headline for sure, but Shepard should be okay for the regular season and Coleman stinks so it's not too detrimental. They're tanking this year anyway aren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Bad training camp headline for sure, but Shepard should be okay for the regular season and Coleman stinks so it's not too detrimental. They're tanking this year anyway aren't they?
    Try to get the WR from Bama then I guess?

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    Which ones that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Which ones that?
    Jeudy I think it was?

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    giants are really gonna suck. it would be funny if they draft Tua and trade Jones similar to what the Cardinals did this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    giants are really gonna suck. it would be funny if they draft Tua and trade Jones similar to what the Cardinals did this year
    At least they have Barkley?

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    Dolphins firing their O-Line coach a week into camp. Always a good sign, definitely fully functional and well run team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Dolphins firing their O-Line coach a week into camp. Always a good sign, definitely fully functional and well run team.
    Have faith. Better to do it now than later and Dave DeGuglielmo would appear to be the perfect contingency plan.

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    If at any point the Dolphins ever deserved any faith of mine I would. You're right though it's better to do it now if it wasn't working instead of waiting longer into camp.

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    Read our HC said he wasn’t getting the job done so off he goes. Liking the new HC coach so far.

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    $100 MM contract for Mike Thomas. In my opinion, he is top 3 in the league alongside Jones and Hopkins.

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    RIP to Dolphin's legend and Hall of Famer Nick Buoniconti

    What football did for him, and to him, is mind-blowing.

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    Top 15 players in the NFL, voted by the players:

    1) Aaron Donald
    2) Drew Brees
    3) Khalil Mack
    4) Mahomes
    5) Todd Gurley
    6) Tom Brady
    7) Antonio Brown
    8) Aaron Rodgers
    9) Julio Jones
    10) Von Miller
    11) DeAndre Hopkins
    12) JJ Watt
    13) Michael Thomas
    14) Kamara
    15) Bobby Wagner

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    Ton of talent and nothing more than splitting hairs at best there.

    Cool to see Wagner getting love. Also interesting to see how players ignore health concerns (Brees, Gurley) to rate dudes they really appreciate.

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    Brees has a health concern?

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    His age as a natural health degradation that was pretty clearly showing in the latter part of the season.

    Was just trying to be concise in lumping them together. Call it what you will. Players will always bias players is the point, and it's fairly interesting.

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    Brees and Gurley both had MVP caliber years last year so I have no issue with them being so high on the list. They deserve the praise. They both fell off at the end of the year and saw a decrease in production, with Gurley it was due to the knee injury and with Brees I don't think we know why so people are fairly or unfairly chalking it up to old age. In any event, their statlines for the whole season remained stellar so yea give them the votes. Really this list is about who was the best last year, and they were right up there.

    Mahomes should be ahead of Brees IMO but it's splitting hairs like you said.

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    good job buffalo

    sign this big dude to be the highest paid center and now his brain is mush

    great. he better reverse the cte like daniel bryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Brees and Gurley both had MVP caliber years last year so I have no issue with them being so high on the list. They deserve the praise. They both fell off at the end of the year and saw a decrease in production, with Gurley it was due to the knee injury and with Brees I don't think we know why so people are fairly or unfairly chalking it up to old age. In any event, their statlines for the whole season remained stellar so yea give them the votes. Really this list is about who was the best last year, and they were right up there.

    Mahomes should be ahead of Brees IMO but it's splitting hairs like you said.
    Brees' closing stretch was pretty consistently not mvp caliber, and it was due to his inability to drive the ball downfield. The latter is being chalked up to age, admittedly whether that's entirely fair or not. Unspoken injuries perhaps? Either way, health concerns.

    Agreed about Mahomes.

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    My guess with Brees is he will come out strong again and put up MVP-esque numbers due in large part to having Thomas, Kamara and now Jared Cook as weapons. He's 40. Brady and Favre both had MVP seasons at 40 (okay Favre didn't win but he should have). Brees should be fine assuming he puts in the proper strength training work in the offseason (and I assume he does). He's never been injury prone and it's not that demanding of a position in this day and age. But the question will rightfully linger of whether his arm will fade at the end of the season again.

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    this will be dope. belichick is such a good football historian. so happy they got him to do this

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    Work on finding a way to keep him healthy.

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    leveon or David Johnson in fantasy this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    leveon or David Johnson in fantasy this year?
    If Bell plays the whole season then him.

    DJ has the ability to really break put this season with Murray's playmaking ability, but it's definitely riskier

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    If you trust the Jets to be capable as an offense, then Bell. The Cardinals were a dumpster fire last season and Johnson was still a top-10 back in most leagues with a PPR format. I'm not sure I necessarily trust the Jets.

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    yea I'm leaning DJ. I have the 6th pick in the cash league so I may likely end up with one of them.

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    Is there a de facto number one? Is it Barkley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Is there a de facto number one? Is it Barkley?
    yes it's barkley. him, zeke, mccaffrey and kamara were "the big 4" but zeke may be out of that if he's still holding out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Is there a de facto number one? Is it Barkley?
    I think a lot of people say it's Barkley but McCaffrey has a viable resume. The argument many will make for a pro-McCaffrey pick is that the Giants are trash and that can limit the ceiling for Barkley, while McCaffrey is the engine, the team is fairly good, and there's other options where teams have to stay somewhat honest.

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    I'd take Barkley over McCaffrey, then Kamara, DJ, then Bell. Zeke's holdout worries me too much and would keep him out of my top 5.

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    Anyone read that part of the article about Adam Gase and how he left the delivery room almost immediately after his wife gave birth? And I’m sure people are going to laud his dedication to the game.

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    Duke Johnson traded to the Texans for a 4th round pick that can conditionally become a 3rd. A 3rd would be a fairly high price to pay but regardless, it's a nice add for the Texans to compliment Lamar Miller. It's a win-now team with Deshaun still on his rookie deal so I like the move.

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    If they go all out to acquire Trent Williams then I'll believe they're in win now mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Anyone read that part of the article about Adam Gase and how he left the delivery room almost immediately after his wife gave birth? And I’m sure people are going to laud his dedication to the game.
    When I saw that, my initial thought was to raise an eyebrow, because he left before she got sewn back up - her guts were still outside her, and he didn't even take the time to cut the umbilical cord. But when I stop to think about it, it's really between him and his wife. If she was good with it, then why should I or anyone else care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    If they go all out to acquire Trent Williams then I'll believe they're in win now mode.
    The 4th becomes a 3rd rounder if Duke is active for 10 games so that's likely to happen. An overpay by acting GM Bill O'Brien I'd say, but they got a playmaker. Dukie is a 1,000 yard guy when given the opportunity.

    Nice move by the Browns to add a solid chip for next year's draft while shedding a player they don't need anymore.

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    Ya, he isn't coming cheap. Especially with everyone in the league aware of his wanting out and their crowded backfield.

    But he's also locked up affordably for three more years so that helps offset the cost.

    But we also still have Matt Kalil and Seantrel Henderson as our starting tackles, so..

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    If Houston is a win-now team, they're SOL because their O-line leaves way more to be desired for a win-now team.

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    They probably should've traded for Trent Williams instead. Not sure what Washington would be asking but if it was a 2nd and his cap number, I think it's worth it.

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    No reason they can't do both.

    That would truly be win now.

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    Sources: AB says no football without old helmet

    Fucking hell must Pittsburgh be absolutely delighted right now..

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    Just catching up on this Damon Sheehy-Guiseppi story, and even if/when it ends soon, it's been pretty great so far..

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    Soooo what's going on with Andrew Luck? Every few days his injury seems to be something different, but there seems to be no timetable for his return. It feels an awful lot like 2017. I'm probably staying away from the Colts for fantasy.

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    I think he’ll be okay. In 2017 it was his shoulder, now it’s seemingly his ankle so it’s not the same issue. Although the Colts sure make it damn tough to know what the hell is going on with his injuries. But I see him missing week 1 or 2 and then being okay.

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    Jerry Jones with a rather unusual take on his experience in dealing with contract negotiations..

    ďPicture if you were the driver of a car, and you had a wreck and your hand was almost severed off. but you didnít understand your anatomy. You look down. Youíre spurting blood. You open the door and run to the woods and either die of bleeding to death or shock. The educated man looks down, knows his anatomy, squeezes and knows his best chance is to wait for help. Thatís because heís been there a lot and done that. And so Iím squeezing and waiting for help.Ē
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    Um, what

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Boombastic View Post
    Soooo what's going on with Andrew Luck? Every few days his injury seems to be something different, but there seems to be no timetable for his return. It feels an awful lot like 2017. I'm probably staying away from the Colts for fantasy.
    He’s made of glass, such a shame.

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    Lowliness is young ambition's ladder,
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    He then unto the ladder turns his back,
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