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    Wilfred's Debate 2019 Discussion and Sign-up

    Rajahites, its time.


    Time to just stop practicing your arguments on how intergender matches are reflections of society. Time to stop playing around with debating whether Dolph Ziggler should go to AEW, or whether Cody will be an asset as a booker.

    Stop just thinking about how you wish you could invent a time machine trade Rowdy Roddy Piper into the Attitude roster, and how that would be WAY BETTER than someone doing the same with Bruno Sammartino.


    Its time to get real with this shit. And determine who the real king of IWC debaters is.


    That's right kids.


    The greatest internet wrestling debate is back.


    Wilfred's Debate has returned
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    This debate is a Rajah institution.

    This is the tournament where the cocky get humbled by some old guns. And those old guns ride on, right until some young gun with a dream and a keyboard knocks them on their ass.

    Names are about to be made, and some legacies are about to cemented.


    This has been a lot of fun for a lot of years, and its time for installment 13.


    My noted debate tag team partner Badger and I wanted to get this year's version off and running, and run the tournament this year. We've both won previously, and look forward to running the tournament consistent with the past, but potentially adding a few wrinkles.




    To establish a baseline (thanks for consolidating these previously Cewsh):


    - The tournament is conducted as an elimination style tournament. Think the NCAA Basketball tournament, just with fewer players.

    - All debates will be comprised of 3 posts by each competitor, each with a word cap of 350 words (cap may increase in later rounds).

    - Those 6 posts must be staggered. You can't make your next post until the other debater has had their turn.

    - Pictures, gifs and videos can be used in literally unlimited amounts to support your point. Information should be self-contained within your post. For example, you can't post a link to an article and expect people to go read it. Quote it in your post.


    Previously we did, the following:

    - The winner will be chosen equally from 4 sources. 2 judges, a reader write in vote, and a poll which will be posted on the main page along with your debates which will allow the greater Rajah audience to vote on your words.

    Cewsh or one of the mods, might have to weigh in on the poll option, We will at least utilize a voter panel.







    No prerequisites needed. Anyone can sign up. Now then, who's in?

    Sign up below.

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    Yeah like Mazer said we're working on a rotational basis. I'll be keeping an eye on things when he's busy and vice-versa.

    Also keeping a stricter eye on votes as well.

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    Don't worry:

    If another Board games favors for votes fiasco breaks out, Badger and I are ALL OVER IT.

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    I’m happy to still do main page polls for you guys.

    Forum polls are not an option.

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    Can I be a judge? Probably dont have time for a proper debate.

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    Loved judging this the past few years, it's really good fun.

    This year, I fancy giving the competition a go. Count me in.

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    I swear, I'm going to be annoyed if I lose in the semis for the third time in a row.

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    Im happy to judge

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    Thanks BBF and virm, that's our judging panel filled out now. Main page poll, public forum vote and BBF and virm so just looking for more participants now. Mazer can update the list of entrants and judges on the first page.

    Probably looking for 16 at least but we'll see how it goes.

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    I want in and I also want to be the #1 reserve in case I lose before the finals because I know 80% of you are going to flake out.

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    I want to be #1 reserve to the #1 reserve because you've got 141 2/3% chance of flaking out.

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    IN:

    KOTRE
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    PSYCHO666SOLDIER
    JP
    PETER GRIFFIN
    NASH DIESEL



    Already, can see that the seeding will be tough. Badger and I will share our breakdowns of the candidates's seeding going in. Ever wanted Badger to break down your debate style while I get irrationally passionate about how that plays into the judging patterns? And really who hasn't?

    Sign-up for Wilfred's today.

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    Strong line-up so far so this will be tough to break down but I look forward to it.

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    Thanks for the sticky Cewsh.

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    This year I plan on making it to the top, the very top. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. Actually, I'm more like an usher

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    @BGMaverick you're the current champ. Would you ĺike to defend your Ģitle?

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    Mulling it over, I'll think about it. I honestly enjoyed judging more than participating in the actual debates.
    Last edited by BGMaverick; January 31st, 2019 at 5:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Mulling it over, I'll think about it. I honestly enjoyed judging more than participating in the actual debates.
    We'll have a new title for a new champion possibly made of hemp with a W for Wilfred's just in case you don't defend it!

    Any more takers? We'll stop at 16 so looking for 9 more. Draw will be done as soon as sign-ups are closed.

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    I still think Rancid needs to get in on one of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I still think Rancid needs to get in on one of these.
    Oh yeah definitely! @Rancid_Planet
    @PurePlayer too. I think @Jordo would be good too.

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    I was also thinking about inviting a former champion back if he wants to. I'll try not to make it too obvious. @Chris...oh too obvious
    Last edited by Badger; February 1st, 2019 at 7:09 PM.

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    Exactly how firm is he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Exactly how firm is he?
    You're too quick at pointing out typos!

    He won the whole thing on only his second attempt early on got to the semis on his first try so pretty "firm" lol

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    Could always try that rom bloke making waves lately

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    @kangus you know you want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Oh yeah definitely! @Rancid_Planet
    @PurePlayer too. I think @Jordo would be good too.
    I've never actually even considered doing one of these. I've been on these boards for 16 year, over half my damn life and I honestly don't think I've even read one/followed along.

    Fuck it I'm in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    I've never actually even considered doing one of these. I've been on these boards for 16 year, over half my damn life and I honestly don't think I've even read one/followed along.

    Fuck it I'm in
    Yes! Welcome aboard!

    Just be yourself, you'll be fine. Also any queries about rules, PM myself or Mazer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I was also thinking about inviting a former champion back if he wants to. I'll try not to make it too obvious. @Chris...oh too obvious
    Thanks for the thought, but I have very little knowledge of WWE in recent years. I watch bits of the odd one hour Raw on Sky and keep up with general news, but Iím just not a fan anymore. And I probably wouldnít be able to give the time it deserves anyway.

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    So it's all WWE topics?

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    It tends to gravitate that direction, but it's a bit of all wrestling, past and present(and a bit of future).

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    Yeah Jordo t's primarily present WWE but we mix in old school stuff too and maybe the odd past TNA or WCW topic.

    You can search past debates as well to get an idea how this works too.
    Last edited by Badger; February 2nd, 2019 at 12:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Thanks for the thought, but I have very little knowledge of WWE in recent years. I watch bits of the odd one hour Raw on Sky and keep up with general news, but I’m just not a fan anymore. And I probably wouldn’t be able to give the time it deserves anyway.
    No problem. It was worth a shout.

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    Better not get a stupid AEW topic cause I'm pissed as hell

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    We already have your question picked out Donald. Braun can only take either Dana Brooke or Jack Swagger on holiday. Who does he pick?

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    The Diamond is in.

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    I'm in

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    In so far:

    1. Kotre
    2. kdestiny
    3. Donald
    4. Psycho666Soldier
    5. JP
    6. Peter Griffin
    7. Nash Diesel
    8. Jordo
    9. The Diamond
    10. lotjx

    6 spots left.

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    This is a heavy hitter field.

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    I'll give it a go.

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    [QUOTE=Badger;8057742]In so far:

    1. Kotre
    2. kdestiny
    3. Donald
    4. Psycho666Soldier
    5. JP
    6. Peter Griffin
    7. Nash Diesel
    8. Jordo
    9. The Diamond
    10. lol ok
    11. G

    5 spots left.

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    Fuck it I'm in.

    1. Kotre
    2. kdestiny
    3. Donald
    4. Psycho666Soldier
    5. JP
    6. Peter Griffin
    7. Nash Diesel
    8. Jordo
    9. The Diamond
    10. lol ok
    11. G
    12. Judas Iscariot

    4 spots left

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    Please remove me as I don't appreciate being hacked. I have informed Goldberg to delete my account. I apologize for this as I do look forward to this event.-LOTJX

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol ok View Post
    Please remove me as I don't appreciate being hacked. I have informed Goldberg to delete my account. I apologize for this as I do look forward to this event.-LOTJX
    Are you referring to your name change? That's from the Royal Rumble game...which you willingly participated in. I think it only last for a month and then you get your old user name back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol ok View Post
    Please remove me as I don't appreciate being hacked. I have informed Goldberg to delete my account. I apologize for this as I do look forward to this event.-LOTJX
    You’re joking, right? You entered a game where a name change was the potential penalty for losing. Also, GBF has no ability to do that.

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    Yeah but what about Goldberg?

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    I'm picturing Goldberg spearing the account away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol ok View Post
    Please remove me as I don't appreciate being hacked. I have informed Goldberg to delete my account. I apologize for this as I do look forward to this event.-LOTJX


    You weren't hacked. As Cewsh said you signed up to the Game of Death thread where the winner could change another participant's name and profile until Wrestlemania thus that's happened. Read the rules next time!

    If you're still dropping out though, I guess we have an extra spot open.

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    What a fucking tool.

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    He's gotta be fucking around. Lotjx tends to be a cool dude as far as I've seen.

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    You must be getting confused with another poster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    You must be getting confused with another poster.
    This is the most serious Donald post I have ever seen

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    A part of me wants to give this a try but work will be nuts for the next couple of months. Does the winner get anything other than bragging rights? Do all participants run the risk of having their username/location shredded for a month?

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    I got an all expenses paid trip to Stamford, CT. Might have been the impetus for R Truth to make that decision at the end of Mixed Match Challenge.
    Last edited by BGMaverick; February 5th, 2019 at 12:39 PM.

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    Stamford? Just another stop on the train.

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    Maybe we could do like POTTY and get a title belt for the winner.

    If you want to sign, we could try and fit something in around your work schedule if you like. We're generally quite flexible and can grant an extension provided it's not too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    A part of me wants to give this a try but work will be nuts for the next couple of months. Does the winner get anything other than bragging rights? Do all participants run the risk of having their username/location shredded for a month?
    That's a different game. Here its only fame or infamy as awards.

    Maybe we should spring for a trophy.

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    For the first timers, this scene will give you all the strategy you'll need for Wilfred's Debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post



    For the first timers, this scene will give you all the strategy you'll need for Wilfred's Debate
    Very nicely put! It's not about proving to your opponent, it's proving to the audience you're opponent is wrong.

    I know we're at 13, but just in case lotjx drops out, probably we start when 17 have signed up so we got an extra body to swap in if needed.

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    Alright master debater kangus is in. You're all in trouble as I know every single wrestling factoid in history. Go on, I dare you to stump me.

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    It was against Lex Luger, May 24th 1998 at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. Boom.

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    The odds are going to be difficult on this one. Thinking through the seeds.



    Which means that we should expect the 14th or 15th seed to win.



    Just 3 more needed.

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    Alright. I'll give this a go.

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    Welcome!

    Two more and I'll get the trusty tumbler out for the draw.

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    We'll leave sign-ups open til Monday for the last two spots but will look to kick things off next week regardless. I have proposed a suggestion to Mazer of a way we can go with 14 if Mazer is in agreement.

    2 more would be better though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    A part of me wants to give this a try but work will be nuts for the next couple of months. Does the winner get anything other than bragging rights? Do all participants run the risk of having their username/location shredded for a month?
    I get it dude... 3puppies and nutmeg state are real bangers.

    If you get in and do better than me you can change my name location and avatar for a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    I get it dude... 3puppies and nutmeg state are real bangers.

    If you get in and do better than me you can change my name location and avatar for a month.
    @3puppies offer you can't refuse!

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    And if I do better.

    Nothing.

    It's all win for you

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    Mikey Jones is interested. If @3puppies doesn't refuse the greatest offer ever, then that's our 16.

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    I've also asked Defrost.

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    We get assigned what side of the argument we have to do right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    We get assigned what side of the argument we have to do right?
    It used to be like that, but the questions are more open-ended these days.

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    10/4 buddy

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    I have decided to do a first ever for wilfred. I will be the final entrant and a judge. Here is how this will break down.

    I will randomly pick the topic my debate is about.

    Any complaints loses 1 judges point.

    Any mention of anyone about the contest being rigged means I move automatically to the next round uncontested.

    And I know what you are saying...i did sway this to my opponents advantage but I felt it was only fair to do so. Can i climb the mountain and overcome the adversity?

    We shall see.

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    Example tie

    Defrost vs cards4lyfe

    Defrost convince us that all wrestling organizations should shut down except for wwe. Not only that but all shows are canceled except for raw which is now a 7 hour show 7 days a week. You must explain with the current roster why this is best for business and you can not add anyone else.

    Cards4lyfe explain to us why you like danial Bryan.

    Defrost has a 21 word limit cap while lucky draw cards4lyfe get 500.

    Defrost has won the coin toss and goes first. If he uses the secret word he is automatically dq'ed. Secret word will be randomly determined after defrosts first post

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    You shouldn't have given Defrost the 21st word. Now you're screwed.

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    I said I was giving advantages to my competitors to balance this it out.

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    Cards4Lyfe, I apologize. You're an oak.

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    He already screwed himself giving Frosty more than 10 words.

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    When someone wins the Tag team debates, and then challenges us, I'm only letting them use emoticons.

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    Good luck to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    You shouldn't have given Defrost the 21st word. Now you're screwed.
    His 22nd word was gonna be Japan so it's probably best.

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    If you need one more, or a reserve, I'm in

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    SIGN-UP CLOSED! @3puppies can be a reserve.

    Draw coming up shortly.

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    Behold!

    Donald vs G
    Nash Diesel vs Judas Iscariot
    JP vs Defrost
    Kotre vs Jarrod1983
    Mikey_Jones vs kdestiny
    Peter Griffin vs kangus
    Kneeneighbour vs Psycho666Soldier
    Jordo vs The Diamond

    What a first round, some veeeery interesting ties there!

    We'll get back in touch with dates once I work out the details with Mazer. No brackets this time, random draws every round. We'll also send out PMs to the participants when the ties are posted.

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    How am I supposed to argue against Tanakori Shitsekubaku?

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    That's a pretty wicked first round. ND vs. Judas should be a classic, and JP/Defrost is one hell of a first time go for JP. My Wilfred's debut saw me face defeat to Defrost in round one. Good luck!

    Knee, I hope you're ready to feel the lightning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    How am I supposed to argue against Tanakori Shitsekubaku?
    Damn you saw right through my plan!

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    That's a pretty wicked first round. ND vs. Judas should be a classic, and JP/Defrost is one hell of a first time go for JP. My Wilfred's debut saw me face defeat to Defrost in round one. Good luck!

    Knee, I hope you're ready to feel the lightning.
    I've outdone myself with the draw this time. kangus/Griffin is also gonna be lit! Jordo and Diamond two new guys going against each other too. Judas/Nash in a Fiction Fight rematch too!

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