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    All my opponents, if you could send my your e-mail address, I will PayPal you $700 each to completely flub your debate and ensure me victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I think Jordo is the darkhorse to crush us all here, honestly. Knee will be quite the challenge. I get a feeling we've done it once before, but I don't remember it being a cakewalk.

    But I have carved a path for myself since the first time I stepped in this competition. And it's now gotten to the point that every year, I make it to the semi-finals and slip.

    I want that Final. I want the Championship. And all of you are going to have to bring the best you have to take me down, because I will crush you where you stand without batting an eye.

    I love you all. Good game to everyone.
    While I appreciate you're confidence in me. I've never had any sort of formal debate.

    I do like to yell at strangers on Facebook about political memes though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    All my opponents, if you could send my your e-mail address, I will PayPal you $700 each to completely flub your debate and ensure me victory.
    Now I wish I was in this.

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    Got my landlord coming round in a couple of hours to look at getting my toilet fixed then I can post the first two topics after that so hopefully in the next 3 hours or so.

    If Mazer's online already at that time he may post them before me.

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    I will be drunk in the first debate as it is indeed my birthday!

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    Happy birthday ye old chap

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    29 years old, I remember watching WCW as a child and I remember thinking Ric Flair was the actual president of the United States haha

    - - - Updated - - -

    Probably was twenty years ago.

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    And wee're off! Ties are posted and PMs sent. Good luck to all!

    Can a mod please sticky them?
    Last edited by Badger; February 18th, 2019 at 4:50 PM.

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    Of course I don't get a fucking Braun Strowman topic.

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    Well that would probably be unfair because you'd have an overwhelming advantage being his #1 fan.

    Besides Mazer assigned the ties to the players, I just posted them so blame him!

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    Jordo vs Diamond has been moved to 25th due to Diamond's schedule. kdestiny/Mikey will happen on 27th instead.

    Hopefully that's okay with everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Of course I don't get a fucking Braun Strowman topic.
    You say that but what if you had to debate why he shouldn't be the champion, might have been a bit difficult being his no.1 fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Of course I don't get a fucking Braun Strowman topic.

    Win this round, and you'll possibly be able to select him in an open topic in a future match.



    Choosing him as the next Women's Royal Rumble Champ will be controversial, but I have faith you can make it work.

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    Do you know who I hate? AJ Styles can't stand the guy, really hope we don't get a question about him!

    Donald you're a silly fella!

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    Hey guys, we got a problem.

    I have three videos, went to post, it's telling me I'm only allowed 1 video and it's admin determined to be allowed.

    This new for the boards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Hey guys, we got a problem.

    I have three videos, went to post, it's telling me I'm only allowed 1 video and it's admin determined to be allowed.

    This new for the boards?
    I've never heard of this.

    I'll reach out to the mods.

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    As we wait for a response, let's allow Television's greatest attorney inspire us to reach new debate heights.

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    Oh yeah I noticed that during Fiction Fight as well. Hopefully Cewsh can sort it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Hey guys, we got a problem.

    I have three videos, went to post, it's telling me I'm only allowed 1 video and it's admin determined to be allowed.

    This new for the boards?
    Can confirm it's been like this for a hot minute.

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    @ Giving Defrost a topic where he is actively encouraged to slag off WWE

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    I wonder if there's an afrost, befrost, and cefrost somewhere. If he had a website, e-frost.com

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    messing with video - I heard 2 might work, but it appears only one for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    messing with video - I heard 2 might work, but it appears only one for me
    In hearing back from mth, it looks like this is now a hard limit. Short of @Cewsh informing us different, it looks like we are going to be limited to one video per post.

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    That is correct.

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    Fair enough. I've adjusted the rules accordingly. Gifs should be alright though yeah?

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    Didn't see issues with multiple gifs.

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    The videos were absolutely key to the argument. I'll reformat it as best as I can and get it up a little later.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Another year, another wilfred snafu punching me in the balls. I should have stuck to judging.

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    Babe, I set those up last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Hey guys, we got a problem.

    I have three videos, went to post, it's telling me I'm only allowed 1 video and it's admin determined to be allowed.

    This new for the boards?
    There was a major update to the board over a year ago. iirc, it ended up being quite a chore. Anyway, that was when we were limited to only 1 video per post, and I have no idea why.

    I thought this was going to be an issue during the debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    There was a major update to the board over a year ago. iirc, it ended up being quite a chore. Anyway, that was when we were limited to only 1 video per post, and I have no idea why.

    I thought this was going to be an issue during the debates.
    Yeah that sounds about right. I'm guessing they had to streamline stuff because the server kept crashing but the mods are probably better placed to answer that. At least this hiccup was nipped in the bud early but due to the delay we can extend these ties a bit longer.

    Hopefully Judas checks in soon though otherwise may look to reserves.

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    Video is a crutch

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    Judas don't take a fucking year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Judas don't take a fucking year.
    You shall have a debate even if I have to insert myself in. We'll see how it is by the end of tomorrow.

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    Can you not let people do 3 separate posts? As long as it's in a row so they can do 3 vids if needed. Maybe put a time limit on it. Like 45 minutes to get all your posts in once you start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cards4Lyfe View Post
    Can you not let people do 3 separate posts? As long as it's in a row so they can do 3 vids if needed. Maybe put a time limit on it. Like 45 minutes to get all your posts in once you start?
    Well I wouldn't put that strict a time limit though, f people really want to do multiple vids for one post, what we may do if allow multiple posts but they'd have to be 3 posts spread over the 350 word cap. They'd have to tell us up front plus I'd have to run that past Mazer as well.

    Shouldn't need to do that though. I kinda agree with Jordo that vids are a bit of a crutch in my personal opinion because people may not pay attention enough to watch the videos all the way through. The words should be enough.

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    If @JP wants to put his original post up but spread it over 3 posts and 350 words, I'll let it go.

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    Mazer's about to post the other two remaining ties for this week.

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    Honestly, I was somewhat Ok with multiple videos, and will have the existing matches go on as posted. Anyone who started writing based on the rules as posted shouldn't be penalized.

    but moving forward, I don't like breaking it up for videos. It hurts readability in my view. In some previous debates it had been restricted, and I think we should move back to that moving forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Honestly, I was somewhat Ok with multiple videos, and will have the existing matches go on as posted. Anyone who started writing based on the rules as posted shouldn't be penalized.

    but moving forward, I don't like breaking it up for videos. It hurts readability in my view. In some previous debates it had been restricted, and I think we should move back to that moving forward.
    Aye that sounds reasonable, it definitely makes it harder to read. We'll make an exception for JP though if he has it all posted already. @Defrost can also respond similarly in his opening post if he so wishes to level things up if JP does that. If JP's putting it into one post though, we go back to alternating posts.

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    Its 2019. Why are we even writing debates? These should be filmed and edited like a professional segment. JP could go video crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cards4Lyfe View Post
    Its 2019. Why are we even writing debates? These should be filmed and edited like a professional segment. JP could go video crazy.
    So basically like the current WWE product?

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    And we're off and running! JP's also getting his up shortly as one so it will remain as one video per post.

    Mazer's away travelling today and plumber should be coming to my flat this afternoon so will probably get the next two posted about lunchtime UK time before things get busy.

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    New ties are ready!

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    I have to say that there was a part of me that felt like @Donald was hovering over my shoulder.

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    I will get first post up tonight.

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    As Psycho has asked, I'll clarify this in here for everyone reading their debate. NXT teams and NXT tag titles are allowed as current roster includes NXT.

    If they've already won NXT tag titles but not on the main roster, that won't count though. They've to have never won any belts whatsoever.
    Last edited by Badger; February 20th, 2019 at 12:17 PM.

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    I had a really good choice, and then in my research, I remembered a detail about a certain team that pretty much defeats that option. I'm gonna go back to the drawing board and hopefully I can get something out before I go to work. It might not be until later tonight, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I had a really good choice, and then in my research, I remembered a detail about a certain team that pretty much defeats that option. I'm gonna go back to the drawing board and hopefully I can get something out before I go to work. It might not be until later tonight, though.
    PM me the choice if you want and I can verify if it's okay.

    That goes for anyone with open choice questions. If you want to check with Mazer or myself if your choices are okay before posting, just PM one of us.
    Last edited by Badger; February 20th, 2019 at 3:58 PM.

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    It's not that it would be an invalid choice, but that there's a crucial argument against it that I don't think can be argued around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    It's not that it would be an invalid choice, but that there's a crucial argument against it that I don't think can be argued around.
    Ahh okay.

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    Doing spots checks on word counts too. JP is over by 2, but it's the first round and it's minor so I'll let it go but be careful from now.

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    @Defrost Sorry to be a bugger but only tagging because it's been a couple of days. You still in this yeah?

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    I have responded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    I have responded

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    Some very good and interesting responses here and Psycho hasn't responded yet. I'm sure it will be even better when he does.

    Loving it people.

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    enjoying these so far

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    Sorry for the delay, Knee. Busy day and also just could not decide which team I wanted to go with of the final two I narrowed it down to.

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    Hey an image I wanted to use didn't show up in my post. May I edit it so that my image shows up? I'm obviously not going to touch my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangus View Post
    Hey an image I wanted to use didn't show up in my post. May I edit it so that my image shows up? I'm obviously not going to touch my post.
    Peter hasn't responded yet so I'll allow it.

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    Next post will be this afternoon and hopefully Nash and I can wrap it up tonight or tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot View Post
    Next post will be this afternoon and hopefully Nash and I can wrap it up tonight or tomorrow.
    Aye that's fine. I'm going to leave yours and JP/Defrost open another day at least due to the hiccup over posting multiple vids at the start.

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    If Judas can pull it off we can get this wrapped up by noon tomorrow, if not sooner just depends on how quick he gets his next post.

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    As JP and Defrost is very close to finishing, I'll put a quick note on how voting will work.

    There will be 4 points: One

    1 Main page poll which we'll get Cewsh to set up.
    2. The forum vote. Participants and other posters will all be welcome to vote. Must be accompanied by good reasoning. Anything too weak like "I liked his argument", "his argument was stronger" won't count and must be elaborated on as to why you think that way. "I agree with his side" will just be flat ruled out. Doesn't have to be massive, a paragraph will suffice.
    3. Judge BBF's vote.
    4. Judge virm/Cards4Lyfe's vote.

    If there's a tie after that, I'll have a confab with Mazer on how to break it but we may just end up calking the casting vote ourselves or inviting someone who hasn't voted to be a third judge.

    Oh and I think 72 hours will be fine to leave voting open for.
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    So I can't vote for Judas just because Braun should be champion yesterday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    So I can't vote for Judas just because Braun should be champion yesterday?
    Same goes for Swagger/Real Americans in that tie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    So I can't vote for Judas just because Braun should be champion yesterday?
    @Badger, I presume you and the other judges will determine whether a forum vote has sufficient additional "good reasoning" and is compelling enough to be counted. But if one of these posts is going to be thrown out, will you let them know they may have to add additional reasoning? Will you be posting in each of the threads to let us know when we can add our thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    @Badger, I presume you and the other judges will determine whether a forum vote has sufficient additional "good reasoning" and is compelling enough to be counted. But if one of these posts is going to be thrown out, will you let them know they may have to add additional reasoning? Will you be posting in each of the threads to let us know when we can add our thoughts?
    Myself or Mazer will start the vote depending on who's around. If we suspect there's any dodgy voting, we'll let the relevant person know they have to add reasoning.

    Also if any of the participants question a vote in their tie, they can let myself and Mazer know via PM or in the discussion thread and we'll review it.

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    Great work so far chaps! It's hard to vote because I agree with both sides of the debates so far in all of them, really hard to sort of figure out who's argued their case the best. Going to be tough.

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    There's been some fantastic work plus everyone has turned up thus far which has always been a recurring concern.

    Reserves will be on standby for the second half of the first round in case there's no-shows. Once we hit the next round, we'll take reserves out and meeting deadlines will be a bit stricter

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    I'm worried with work and a holiday coming up I'm not going to be able to post something quickly but I don't want to bow out as I really am looking forward to this! Will give it my best shot anyways!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Diamond View Post
    I'm worried with work and a holiday coming up I'm not going to be able to post something quickly but I don't want to bow out as I really am looking forward to this! Will give it my best shot anyways!!
    Just do your best man. Although we fought in Fiction Fight, I could tell you have great potential and your Fat Tony references were quite clever. You and Jordo are both first-timers here and I'm looking forward to see what you both can pull out.

    Also any scheduling concerns, just give us a heads uo.

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    Yeah I will do Badger, it's a shame I went for Fat Tony really as I didn't know a lot about him going in, said him as in jest really, might take this a little more seriously though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Diamond View Post
    Yeah I will do Badger, it's a shame I went for Fat Tony really as I didn't know a lot about him going in, said him as in jest really, might take this a little more seriously though.
    You did okay though even if it you were a bit in jest. I just happen to be a Simpsons maniac (well not so much now, the new stuff's fucking shit) so I knew him pretty well anyway.

    If you picked someone more obscure, would have had to fight harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    You did okay though even if it you were a bit in jest. I just happen to be a Simpsons maniac (well not so much now, the new stuff's fucking shit) so I knew him pretty well anyway.

    If you picked someone more obscure, would have had to fight harder.

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    Yeah guess they ran out of ideas and it's all gotten a bit silly I suppose especially with the Apu character being axed, I mean come on they're pretty much all stereotypes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Diamond View Post
    Yeah guess they ran out of ideas and it's all gotten a bit silly I suppose especially with the Apu character being axed, I mean come on they're pretty much all stereotypes!
    Really it should have ended about 15 years ago and that's being generous.

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    Although it will be a sad day when it ends I do agree it's come to the end now, when they decide it's the last ever episode I imagine there will be a few tears shed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Diamond View Post
    Although it will be a sad day when it ends I do agree it's come to the end now, when they decide it's the last ever episode I imagine there will be a few tears shed.
    I would look back for a bit on the great run it had in the late 80s and 90s plus early 2000s, but mostly I'd be like "Aboot bloody time!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I would look back for a bit on the great run it had in the late 80s and 90s plus early 2000s, but mostly I'd be like "Aboot bloody time!"
    Hmm maybe WWE is going down the same path for me, I'm really struggling with it atm I don't know if a show just reaches its peak and it's very hard to keep it going as a lot changes over the years and it's hard to stay fresh haha might need to keep my opinions for the debates!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Diamond View Post
    Hmm maybe WWE is going down the same path for me, I'm really struggling with it atm I don't know if a show just reaches its peak and it's very hard to keep it going as a lot changes over the years and it's hard to stay fresh haha might need to keep my opinions for the debates!
    Good comparison. I only watch Raw now after reading the results and deciding if it's worth it.

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    Also I'll end the tie for JP/Defrost if Defrost gets his last post up in the next 2-3 hours. If it's longer than that, Mazer will likely do it.

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    Should be soonish

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    Cool man. I should still be up.

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    Putting the finishing touches on an argument in which I compare Kevin Dunn to Christopher Nolan.

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    Voting has now officially begun in the JP/Defrost tie. Please cast your vote in there.

    For those who are new to this, please do not discuss the current vote in this thread while it is in progress unless there is a serious question over voting. As said earlier, if any participant wants to question a vote in their tie then please either raise it in here then both Mazer and myself will review your case.

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    @Defrost, cracking job mate, best of luck.

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    I'll have my next entry up in the next couple hours. If you can get one more, @Kneeneighbor, I'll be able to finish tonight.

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    I'm sitting on gold and Judas is out there in the NYC with Necro and ILL Bill munchin on veal parm like human arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I didn't want to have to do this but apparently my hand must be forced:





    My favorite moment from this is when Bobby Heenan says "I knew he was going to do that!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post




    I'm sitting on gold and Judas is out there in the NYC with Necro and ILL Bill munchin on veal parm like human arm.
    I think we'll let it run over the weekend so you guys can try and get finished.

    Also still waiting on Cewsh to set up the main page poll for JP/Defrost but I'm sure he'll get round to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I think we'll let it run over the weekend so you guys can try and get finished.

    Also still waiting on Cewsh to set up the main page poll for JP/Defrost but I'm sure he'll get round to it.
    I'm still powerbombing him on his neck.

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    Did Big Show break his neck on that one holy nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Did Big Show break his neck on that one holy nuts
    There was a minor neck injury. Could have been a whole worse. Why the fuck they thought was a good idea boggles the mind.

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    Surprised Nash didn't tear his quad.

    Read online that they did the spot a couple of years earlier but that the Big Show was a lot lighter during that period than he was in 1998.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Surprised Nash didn't tear his quad.

    Read online that they did the spot a couple of years earlier but that the Big Show was a lot lighter during that period than he was in 1998.
    Yeah Big Show was in horrible shape in 1998.

    Also if @Mazer agrees, I think we should extend all remaining ties through the weekend in an effort to get complete debates.

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