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    Big Muscle Matt is AEW CONFIRMED! Yeah baby.

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    Time to debut Eric Rowan?

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    That was kind of a lame "big brawl" segment.

    I love how FTR hitting guys with an ice chest full of beer is a running joke now.

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    Love how Diamante is just going to pretend she didn't have a very solid Impact Wrestling run.

    "I've been busting my ass in the indies for 10 years..."

    "Impact Wrestling?"

    "Indies. I--i-i-i-ndies."

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    So... AEW presents... BATTLE BOWL


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    Holy shit, did Jim Cornette write this?

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    Whoa, MJF dropping bombs and spitting truth!

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    Holy shit! Now that's a fucking promo.

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    MJF completely killed that! Those are the type of promos i remember watching in my younger days. MJF the best in AEW!

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    Good promo from Ricky Starks. Damn, this has been a really solid show.

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    Ouch.

    Darby Allin with a spot right out of MTV's "Jackass".

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    One thing I'm noticing: JR doesn't do a lot to entertain me unless he's shitting over something he doesn't like. We've seen weeks without Excalibur (this week), we've seen Taz, and Schiavone/Jericho and they're all much more appealing. It's clear that Excalibur is the essential backbone that's needed weekly.

    With the talent involved and heat that could have been there, the 10-man tag just seemed really discombobulated.

    Warhorse looked good in the match and they told a good enough story with Cody starting to get a little frustrated with the stacked weeks of the open challenge. Strong Island Matt Cardona? I'm only interested in the potential upside with him on BTE. This roster is getting bloated in a hurry.

    Tag title match wasn't bad but it felt like it didn't hit a higher gear. I think that would taken a good match and turned it into a great one. Stu Grayson is a guy who is really impressive but stuck in a shitty gimmick. Is Anna just Bunny 2.0 now that she's in Dark Order?

    Diamante had a rough two weeks on Dynamite, to say the least. The one fka as Cameron is in AEW and participating in this women's tournament? Unless she got dramatically better without being in the ring since leaving WWE, yikes.

    MJF delivered in a big, big way with his promo. I'm looking forward to how they continue to evolve the build between MJF and "Dictator Jon". This certainly feels like a situation where the trigger could certainly be pulled and crown a new champ.

    Starks had a great promo prior to the main event. Odd observation, I know, but they didn't ring the bell to start the match lol. Very little build for a title match next week between two popular people seems shortsighted.

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    I zip through wrestling these days because I've lost a lot of interest it sitting for 2-3-4 hours for things... so bear with...

    JR on commentary is .. confusing. You're right, he enjoys making snide remarks and I just don't understand what that's bringing to the table? I mean, it makes me smirk sometimes but it's not necessary. If you didn't know who JR was, you'd think he was just an asshole.

    The problem with the 10 man tag is they put it up first and gave it like what.. 10 minutes? 12 minutes? The only way everyone can get into the match is via a big mess.. and that's kinda what it felt like at times. I mean they even managed to squeeze Marko Stunt in there. Feel like that meme sometimes with him: "Nobody: AEW: Hey look at Marko Stunt being the size of a child!"

    I felt bad for Warhorse... because without a crowd, his intro sounded a bit ... dumb. Before he finished saying Warhorse I felt he was going to say "Warrior" because.. face-paint.. hyperactive... Also I felt like he bails Cody out at the end, even though Cody still gets beat up, and who gets the glory of the handshakes after? Matt Cardona. Who by the way looks incredible.. can tell what he spent his days doing. Unfortunately I just don't see where he fits in currently.. aside from to replay the MJF "Cody's friend who turns on him" part.

    Speaking of MJF - I did enjoy that promo but there's a certain irony that really if you wanted to call Mox a copy of Steve Austin, MJF's promo was very CM Punk "pipe-bomb". He was one-waving-at-colt-cabana away from it.

    Anyway, I don't know what the result would be now but I feel like this is "the time" if they wanted to prove themselves to go against RAW because RAW is floundering (for me) at the minute. It has done for a few months. If they put like an "AEW special" on every month on a Monday... I'd find it interesting how that would affect the overall ratings. I can't think it's too soon... it's just whether there's anything to be achieved by going head to head like that... which there probably isn't. Might be best for wrestling generally if they had more spaced out main shows.

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    Matt Cardona looks like he's taken a break from action figure collecting and digging around flea markets and old lady's attics and decided to hit the gym.

    I guess when you're not spending $1,200 on an obscure Big Bossman action figure, you can afford a little bit of the gas. Holy shit. That's a "Jinder Mahal"-style full body transformation, just without the flirtation with alcoholism and almost opening a Subway restaurant first.

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    Cardona is still spending thousands on figures, he just eats a lot of steak and lifts very heavy weights!




    also probably shoots tons of roids now, his dad WAS a bodybuilder after all.

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    Day after thoughts:

    They got too cute with the shot of turnbuckle camera with Grayson leaping out of the ring. That's a cool visual but we never saw the actual payoff to that. FTR using the cooler as a weapon continues to be funny.

    If AEW opts to go with Cardona at the expense of someone like Kingston, that could prove to be an unwise move. Warhorse needed more attention or Excalibur in the worst way to provide exposition.

    Is the women's tournament just on YouTube? Just the first round? Meh...

    MJF's line about no longer being the alternative and being the pinnacle was VERY good.

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    Zach's already managed to slap two members of the Dark Order in the face wih his balls. Hopefully he can retire now.

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    The thing about 10 man tags is that those kinds of matches should always be elimination. Otherwise it breaks down and becomes a giant cluster like we saw last night. On top of that, why make it tornado when they had a tornado tag as the main event?

    Cameron's back?!!!

    I don't know how Uno and Grayson are 8-0. Have all their matches been on Dark? This is the first time I've seen them have a proper tag match and I have to say they impressed me. Some creative double team action.

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    MJF's promo from last night was great!

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    I'm not sure if all the AEW super marks who were like "I hope so and so comes to AEW they were not used correctly in WWE" are so so happy with the shit they're getting. CAMERON!!!

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA.



    Fuck you.


    I can't wait to hear people defend this turd. I thought TNA were bad, signing all the jobbers that Titus used to beat on Main Event sans Gallows/Anderson. Cameron.....Wow.

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    I agree about Cameron. She was a horrible wrestler from what i remember and i doubt she's gotten any better. Acquiring her made no sense to me at all. AEW are signing way too many WWE B guys

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    I think AEW probably knows Cameron is the drizzling shits and they know the reaction internet fans were going to have.

    Nyla and Cameron are a comedy duo for this thing. Nyla doesn't like anybody and she especially doesn't want to team with a lead weight in the form of someone who thought she could pin a wrestler on their stomach. We'll see Nyla do all the heavy lifting, probably win entire matches by herself, and never tag dumbshit in. And they'll make it a couple rounds into the tournament, until another team of two stars wrestles them, Nyla has to tag Cameron in, and Cameron gets beat deader than four 'o clock in like two minutes.

    Nyla beats her up, gets her heat, faces chase her off and help Cameron up. End of segment.

    Nyla's got a bitch, which is good for a heel, that she should've won the tournament, but she stuck with a sack of shit for a partner and she's sick of being fucked around.

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    Hell, maybe they could bring back Awesome Kong, team her with Nyla and they could wrestle the winners of the tournament for The Deadly Draw trophy.

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    Week 01: 1,409,000 viewers
    Week 02: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
    Week 03: 1,014,000 viewers
    Week 04: 963,000 viewers
    Week 05: 759,000 viewers
    Week 06: 822,000 viewers
    Week 07: 957,000 viewers
    Week 08: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
    Week 09: 663,000 viewers (NXT higher)
    Week 10: 851,000 viewers
    Week 11: 778,000 viewers (tie)
    Week 12: 683,000 viewers
    Week 13 (after being off the week prior): 967,000 viewers
    Week 14: 947,000 viewers
    Week 15: 940,000 viewers
    Week 16: 871,000 viewers
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    Another good show.

    MJF though great promo. I never liked him at first, didn’t see anything in him but he certainly proved me wrong.

    Glad they carried on the Sammy/Matt stuff, will be fun stuff and should be a good match with Sammy going over.

    Im guessing Matt Cardona will turn on Cody when he loses his TNT stuff and them doing the whole jealous friendship thing. Good to see Matt though somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Matt Cardona looks like he's taken a break from action figure collecting and digging around flea markets and old lady's attics and decided to hit the gym.

    I guess when you're not spending $1,200 on an obscure Big Bossman action figure, you can afford a little bit of the gas. Holy shit. That's a "Jinder Mahal"-style full body transformation, just without the flirtation with alcoholism and almost opening a Subway restaurant first.
    He was doing both

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    Eddie signed then, I feel like they are on the verge of getting a bloated roster, I know they have dark so wonder if they have a deal in place to bring that to TV.

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    Roster is getting stacked like

    - - - Updated - - -

    I love how Justin Roberts introduces people but when he did Warhorse, that was shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Eddie signed then, I feel like they are on the verge of getting a bloated roster, I know they have dark so wonder if they have a deal in place to bring that to TV.
    when the news broke earlier this year about the TNT extension and deal, it was announced that a second show would come about at some point. i imagine the pandemic has messed with that timeline.

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    Ahhh, That would make sense yes.

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    If there's any kind of silver lining to AEW being stuck in the same building for so long, its that its been great to see QT Marshall's jobber squad wrestling school students on TV. They make good jobber fodder for the big show and they're all mostly good enough to have some semi-competitive and fun matches against stars on Dark. They're a well trained group of dudes and dudettes. I mean, some of them might be better, at least fundamentally, than some of "real" stars on Dynamite.

    And obviously, being stuck in Florida means they get to work every week in front of a TV and/or Youtube audience. Which is only good for them.

    Also, wrestling in front of an audience of nothing but other wrestlers means that whatever veterans are out there can really help out and critique what needs work, because they're seeing it up close and personal.

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    Jericho vs Orange Cassidy Wilfred’s Debate? Bring it on!

    Love how Jericho’s still wearing the jacket.

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    Former NXT performer Taynara Conti is apparently part of the AEW Women's Tag Tag Cup Tournament. She will be paired up with Anna Jay and they will face Nyla Rose and Ariane Andrew. That's all according to Jericho.

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    Neat.

    Taynara seems super cool. At least from her Instagram. And Anna Jay as a member of The Dark Order actually has some personality now.

    Its good they gave those goobers a woman member. Now they don't feel like a bunch of angry incels. They can actually get a woman to talk to them.

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    According to Meltzer, the mystery moderator for the Cassidy/Jericho debate is

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    Ewww...

    I was hoping for Scott Steiner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    According to Meltzer, the mystery moderator for the Cassidy/Jericho debate is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Ewww...

    I was hoping for Scott Steiner.
    Only if he used maths to determine the winner.

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    Taynara in the Tag Tournament is a blessing. I would love to see AEW snatch her up. So many years ahead of her, and she's already more than solid.

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    When Dr Baker heals, her being a double tag and singles champ would rule.

    It’s not for a lack of female talent in AEW but at the moment character-wise she’s the only one I’m invested in. Probably because she still gets more time than every other female but she is great.

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    This is as good a place as any for this.


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    Outside of the all women's promotions in Japan, WWE without a shadow of a fucking doubt has the absolute best women's roster of all time.

    I don't know what's worse...People defending Excalibur or people defending this horseshit.

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    I'd really like to hear an explanation why Brandi insists on acting like a heel. That interview after the match made her so unlikable. And don't get me started on her ring work. She's good at two things: Announcing wrestlers and being a ringside cheerleader.

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    So sick of Brandi. Her and the Bunny are definitely going to the final and i wouldn't be surprised if they won it all either. I guess that's the perks of having your Husband run the show

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    I didn’t watch this but the reviews I’ve read made me feel like I made the right choice because it went about as I imagined it would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    I'd really like to hear an explanation why Brandi insists on acting like a heel. That interview after the match made her so unlikable. And don't get me started on her ring work. She's good at two things: Announcing wrestlers and being a ringside cheerleader.
    Unlikable as in she sucks ass? If she's a heel, liking her is the last thing you want to be doing.

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    Those AEW figures look very nice.

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    With the NBA back and in full swing, Turner announced how Dynamite will be impacted.
    The Wednesday, August 19 episode will air on Saturday, August 22 at 6:00pm ET / 3:00pm PT
    The Wednesday, August 26 episode will air Thursday, August 27 at 8:00pm ET/PT
    The Wednesday, September 16 episode will air Thursday, September 17 at 8:00pm ET/PT

    That means the first one will go up against Takeover XXX for one hour. Should be interesting to see how both NXT and AEW are impacted with the subtle changes.

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    That Saturday showing is a killer

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    Looking forward to see how Moxley/Allin go and how they go about the match. No doubt Allin will shine and just come up short, Cage/Starks getting involved.

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    So, 10-man tag-team opener last week.

    12-man tag-team this watch week.

    Looking forward to next week when we get a 14-man tag-team match.

    Just keep adding guys every week. We can have a 40-man tag-team match some time. They'll have guys in the match that never leave the lockers because they don't fit anywhere in the arena.

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    Eric Bischoff... yikes

    Edit: Is this a one time thing? Or is he signed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuveLeo View Post
    Eric Bischoff... yikes

    Edit: Is this a one time thing? Or is he signed?
    One time thing.

    Tonight's episode was fucking stellar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer-Belly View Post
    One time thing.

    Tonight's episode was fucking stellar.
    Thank goodness. And i agree, it was another pretty solid show.

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    It says something, though I'm not exactly sure what, that a 12-team tag was more entertaining than the 10-man last week. One week's chaos looked sloppy and the other was more clean. Lee and Page squaring off is something I'd certainly like to see more of.

    A feud of convenience and over a van. At least those two teams are good at what they do and should be good together for undercard program.

    Seemed like a rather underwhelming debut for Cardona.

    Jericho's side of the debate came off as corny to me. Cassidy's side, verbal and non verbal, was more entertaining.

    One segment, especially what it was, for the women for a two-hour show seems...unfortunate. Unless I missed it, they didn't even advertise/promote their women's tournament. Instead, they opted to market this subscription-based women's only web community.

    The Moxley promo earlier in the evening was a good appetizer for the main event. Good on them to outline (though it was brief) that Starks and Cage were barred from the arena. Of course it was smart to bar those two from the ring because the bigger deal with MJF and Wardlow being involved in the match. The first matchup between Allin and Moxley had the benefit of the crowd to feed off of but I'd say I liked the rematch better. The storytelling was definitely on point. They told a really good story over the course of the night between these two guys. Mission accomplished, but it's disappointing that this was a story that only really lasted one episode. Face versus face might have been hard for a multi-week program but they're two compelling characters that are endearing and would have drawn serious interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Mission accomplished, but it's disappointing that this was a story that only really lasted one episode. Face versus face might have been hard for a multi-week program but they're two compelling characters that are endearing and would have drawn serious interest.
    but that mox promo essentially turned it into a months long storyline. and that closing shot of mox sitting an unconscious darby up, arm around him, bleeding on him, as he's talking to him, definitely plants the seeds for it to be continued in the future. this is how good long term storytelling works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    but that mox promo essentially turned it into a months long storyline. and that closing shot of mox sitting an unconscious darby up, arm around him, bleeding on him, as he's talking to him, definitely plants the seeds for it to be continued in the future. this is how good long term storytelling works.
    I get that. But given what I saw over a traditional ppv-like program and a one-week build, I would have rather seen what Mox/Allin could've done with the time that was given to Mox/Cage for this go round.

    It's also primed to be big, if they opt to have MJF actually be the one to dethrone Moxley, for these budding stars to keep getting their moment in the spotlight with big matches only to fall short nine times out of 10. All of that, just to see MJF (of all people) be the one to actually break through the glass ceiling. There's so many ways it could be impactful, especially if he wins through nefarious means, but it's certainly a story that's being told that these guys get these make or break moments and have moments of just being on the cusp but not being able to close it out. To see that actually happen but have a heel do it and it be him (again).
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    Excellent show this week loved it.

    Debate was good, OC to hopefully win the rematch.

    Loving the Sammy/Hardy stuff. Should be a very good feud, they are perfect for each other.

    Big annoyed Ortiz & Santana lost again but understand since then they smashed the car. They need to win the rematch though.

    MJF stuff is good.

    Matt Cardona looked good.

    Moxley/Allin match was very good. Good little build up. Allin & Cage for the FTW next please.

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    Wow, i didn't expect the ratings to spike that much. I assume viewers tuned to see Matt Cardona? It was an excellent episode last night though. AEW has been on quite the roll as of late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuveLeo View Post
    Wow, i didn't expect the ratings to spike that much. I assume viewers tuned to see Matt Cardona? It was an excellent episode last night though. AEW has been on quite the roll as of late.
    I imagine it was the three things heavily promoted: 12-man tag, Jericho/Cassidy with a surprise, and Moxley/Allin in a title match.

    If they were there for Cardona:
    A) I'd be concerned.
    2) They were probably disappointed in a relative sense.
    III) Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I imagine it was the three things heavily promoted: 12-man tag, Jericho/Cassidy with a surprise, and Moxley/Allin in a title match.

    If they were there for Cardona:
    A) I'd be concerned.
    2) They were probably disappointed in a relative sense.
    III) Why?
    Let's be honest. We all know the reason for the bump this week for AEW Nitro.





    It's that simple. I'm not even being funny. We all know the crowd that watches AEW, it's the same crowd that watches every other show out there no matter how hard they pretend they don't. I promise you the idea of "What will Bischoff do on Nitro?" was at the top of everyone's list. The people that love Bischoff, and the people who pretend to hate him, they tuned in and that's why we saw a nice little bump.

    But again, it's a pretty bad number. If the TNA thread was still active we could back 10 years to "OMG TNA got a 1.9 they're fucking dead!" 10 years later....So the upside is that if Nitro still can maintain at least a million viewers, they should be ok. A million on a cable tv in 2020 is like 10 million in 1999.

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    Pretty sure most people watching didn't know Bischoff would even be on the show

    Also, this week's Dynamite apparently beat Raw in the 18-34 demographic. That's pretty big.

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    Jericho should absolutely be the person that comes out first when there’s a full crowd again. He’ll get the best pop and everyone can sing along to his song.

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    Damn awesome episode of Dynamite this week. Opening tag was compelling and felt meaningful while blending a couple different angles together. Even if Sammy has heat for the chair spot, I think the extreme color helped make the feud with Hardy seem more serious, and that has a lot of potential to become a deep blood feud.

    Best Friends/Santana & Ortiz is a solid undercard feud that takes advantage of recent character points, is a good transition for Best Friends out of the #2 spots, and ideally, a place for Santana & Ortiz to build their winning ways back up and climb the ranks.

    The debate was excellent. Jericho being his petulant self, trying to embarrass Cassidy when he's ultimately just embarrassing himself, and Cassidy getting poignant and serious. I think this has been built to the point where Cassidy more than deserves the win, and Jericho can easily rebound off his star power alone, let alone the fact that it can be blamed on underestimating Orange Cassidy.

    Mox/Allin was a great main event, and I felt there was a lot of entrenched story coming out with it. Took a lot of AEW history and the personal journeys of both men and continues to plant seeds for potential future developments. Mox's pre-match promo was gripping, and felt very different from what we normally get. Overall, Moxley came out looking like a champion in a big way on this show. Allin just looked incredible as the scrappy underdog as usual.

    Not everything in-between was groundbreaking, but all the big moments were executed perfectly, and it was an exciting package of wrestling. A lot to look forward to next week, also.

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    so is this arn/tully/ftr build/interaction lead to the new faction of the quad cowboys?

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    I didn't know this was a thing until I saw it pop up today: Jericho apparently had Fozzy concerts this past week. They were either outdoor shows or indoor ones with 35-50% capacity. He said they "hand out masks at the door, do temperature checks, all that sort of stuff." Apparently the shows were in North and South Dakota, and Iowa. This really doesn't seem smart, especially from an optics perspective.

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    Never thought I'd be into AEW but the shows have been consistently solid. Really grateful to not feel like I'm a child when watching this show either.

    NXT'S had some great moments over the the year and in my opinion better matches, but these weekly episodes have been far more refreshing and engaging....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I didn't know this was a thing until I saw it pop up today: Jericho apparently had Fozzy concerts this past week. They were either outdoor shows or indoor ones with 35-50% capacity. He said they "hand out masks at the door, do temperature checks, all that sort of stuff." Apparently the shows were in North and South Dakota, and Iowa. This really doesn't seem smart, especially from an optics perspective.
    Is Fozzy on tour or were these just random concerts? This seems ill advised to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Is Fozzy on tour or were these just random concerts? This seems ill advised to say the least.
    These are dates that were part of their rescheduled tour, I believe.

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    Well, here's part two. I skipped through the first match. The second one is watchable. It's funny how they said Ivelisse and Diamante have never teamed together, but the matching hats and bandanas they've worn to the ring already made them look like a tag team, lol.

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    It would be amazing if Scorpio Sky won the TNT title, but i can't see that happening for free
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    I've said it multiple times but the point still remains unchanged: Uno and Grayson are a really great team with a weird gimmick.

    I audibly laughed when Khan decided just to look into the camera when Moxley was by their version of gorilla and they just slowly panned away to get him off screen.

    The next shot across the bow of the Wednesday Night Wars came in the form of ... Mike Chioda. Good for him, for real. No real obvious reason why such a tenured guy like him got canned so I'm glad he landed on his feet. I do think they're slowly continuing to plant the seeds for a turn with Cody. That feels like a long play that's going to be impactful. He was noble initially with the open challenges, started getting careless, now adding taunting, monikers, and entourages. Good match between the two of them. Good promo by Lee after the fact. Also, looks like they finally finished the TNT title, and it looks nice.

    Blanchard was great with his promo. It was a nice juxtaposition to everyone marking out for each other prior to that. Good execution of FTR taking out Rock 'n' Roll. They seem to be good for a nostalgic team to take a beating lol.

    Another light night for AEW and the women. Sheesh. You'd think they'd hear criticism about that and do something to correct that. At least they showed stuff about their tournament.

    Jericho/Cassidy? Ooof. That was certainly a sloppy finish and Jericho just didn't look all that great. I'm glad they followed through with an up-and-comer getting a big win but it didn't off all that great.

    Their timing seemed quite a bit off, as a whole.

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    That was one of the more enjoyable weeks from beginning to end.
    the matches were engaging and with a point as opposed to endless Spotfests without reason.
    Loved FTR taking out Ricky Morton. Maybe they can explain why?
    ...or Tully can continue the Shawn Spears angle on Cody?
    these people in their 'creative' (Khan, the 'evp's lol) need to stay on course when introducing incidents and angles and then not following through on them.

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    Seems like I can attribute my last point in my previous point to the fact it was done live. The consensus seems to be they haven't gotten their sea legs under them yet in terms of pacing/timing with live shows.

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    I think every time Rock and Roll Express show up, they get destroyed. That's kind of become their gimmick, lol. I was sure Shawn Spears was going to finally introduce his partner during the tag team brawl, but nada.

    Jericho/Cassidy definitely didn't replicate the magic from their previous match. It looked like Jericho went down too soon when Cassidy was setting up the pin for the finish, but they had to go with it. It's a shame it turned out that way, but still a big win for OC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post

    The next shot across the bow of the Wednesday Night Wars came in the form of ... Mike Chioda. Good for him, for real. No real obvious reason why such a tenured guy like him got canned so I'm glad he landed on his feet. I do think they're slowly continuing to plant the seeds for a turn with Cody. That feels like a long play that's going to be impactful. He was noble initially with the open challenges, started getting careless, now adding taunting, monikers, and entourages. Good match between the two of them. Good promo by Lee after the fact. Also, looks like they finally finished the TNT title, and it looks nice.
    I'm happy Mike Chioda is back on television. It sucked when WWE canned him back in April during those roster cuts.

    Not sure if it's just me, but i'm getting sick of Cody being the champ. I think a heel turn would benefit him seeing as he comes across as a fake good guy... in my eyes anyway.

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    You know I skim all wrestling shows more or less now, I wasn't sure if Cody was meant to be a good guy or a bad guy...? Is it not just me? He come's across like a prick, his wife is incredibly unlikable... I thought maybe that was his gimmick / the point of it.

    As soon as I saw Mike Chioda I thought "Please don't make a big deal of it" .. but they did.. twice..

    Oh well.

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    Cody is a face, But he is on his way to the dark side I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuveLeo View Post
    Wow, i didn't expect the ratings to spike that much. I assume viewers tuned to see Matt Cardona? It was an excellent episode last night though. AEW has been on quite the roll as of late.

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    Woo Woo Woo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Cody is a face, But he is on his way to the dark side I think.
    Cody said in an interview recently that the concept of babyfaces and heels is archaic and confining so one must therefore assume he (and all AEW also?) are not using the time honored tradition that pro wrestling is built upon.

    Other than Inner Circle vs The Elite, they haven't done any fueds with multiple matches in them, also a staple in pro wrestling. So they must think they're one the cutting edge of changing the way wrestling is done.

    They certainly have been doing that in other ways too; no need to mention them and get the discussion off track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWo4LifeOr2Years View Post
    Cody said in an interview recently that the concept of babyfaces and heels is archaic and confining so one must therefore assume he (and all AEW also?) are not using the time honored tradition that pro wrestling is built upon.

    Other than Inner Circle vs The Elite, they haven't done any fueds with multiple matches in them, also a staple in pro wrestling. So they must think they're one the cutting edge of changing the way wrestling is done.

    They certainly have been doing that in other ways too; no need to mention them and get the discussion off track.
    pac and hangman page had three matches. pac and kenny had three matches. orange cassidy and jericho just had their second match. moxley and darby have had two matches, albeit it's not a traditional rivalry. they're not running a wwe-type format where they ignite a feud and then it lasts over the course of three or four ppv's. this kind of booking isn't cutting edge, and they know it, cause they were all in new japan. it's pretty cutting edge for an american based company with a weekly, nationally televised show, i guess.

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    Decent show this week, not as good as usual. It seemed off for some reason the matches seemed very slow paced at times too.

    No Matt this week? Not even an interview saying why he’s here or about his match last week? Weird.

    Finally FTR turned heels and can properly feud with The Young Bucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Decent show this week, not as good as usual. It seemed off for some reason the matches seemed very slow paced at times too.

    No Matt this week? Not even an interview saying why he’s here or about his match last week? Weird.

    Finally FTR turned heels and can properly feud with The Young Bucks
    Matt was on, cut a promo on Sammy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chatty View Post
    Matt was on, cut a promo on Sammy.
    He meant the other one. The new one, Cardona.

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    Yeah meant MC. Thought the MH promo was good, I like pissed off Hardy.

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    I read that the Nightmare Sisters are in the final of the tag tournament... what a joke. They're definitely winning the whole thing. Pretty embarrassing, considering they're both horrendous in the ring.

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    Just caught up with Dynamite, agreed on the finish to Jericho/OC. First match was better and the ending was botched and a bit lacking.

    Also cut away too quick at the end cutting into OC’s celebration time. I would’ve had him celebrate and pour orange juice on Jericho again.

    The tag team segment with FTR pulling the swerve was very well done.

    Also why did Sammy not try to help as well?

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    Thanks to Botchamania, I know what Cassidy was going for.


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    Man lacks a good finisher and superman punch move....ehh no. Tbh not thrilled with Jericho’s current one either. Judas effect’s the worst one he’s had. Weak.

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    I don't mind the Judas Effect because it's been put over as this kill move that almost no one kicks out of(I think Moxley did once?). I'm cool with that being a finish for Orange Cassidy, but it doesn't really work as a feud-ender. I think he could use something with more impact to at least switch it up.

    Great episode this week. The tag matches were all pretty good to great, with some teams getting to show out more than usual, like The Dark Order. FTR's turn was sorely needed, and even though I felt it was telegraphed by them putting together this Tag Team Appreciation Night, it was still handled very well with the bait-and-switch via Tully.

    Unfortunate that the main event was a bit sloppy. I felt both the finish and the last dragon screw were fucked up. But I felt that it was mostly still enjoyable, with some strong moments before. I liked everything from Cassidy faking being worn out to the dirty finish tease a lot. Orange getting the win was the right move here. I'd be good with a rubber match, but would like to see them go separate ways and maybe save their next encounter for when there's a crowd.

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    This MJF promo is amazing. He went to Jericho's school of promos for sure. "Papa. Papa."

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    Thunder Rosa coming to AEW is huge. So proud of her... AND she's bringing the NWA belt w/ her. So fucking awesome.

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    You her dad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    You her dad?
    he does this for anybody who happened to exist in the same space as him while he recorded/photographed indie shows.

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