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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I love The Beast Mortos. That is all.
    excuse me sir, his name is Frank Mortos (attorney at rawr)

    https://x.com/matttaven/status/1835075135549981001?s=46

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    Grand Slam:

    Nigel/Bryan was a really good opener. Obvious outcome but still wondering where they go with Nigel from here and if he will wrestle more often or how he will handle him on commentary from here on out. He did say “Thank you!” just before he was tapping out.

    Christian teasing the cash-in and Kip stealing the pen lol. I was thinking how much more awesome that would’ve been if it was Copeland spearing him at that point. Hope he comes back soon.

    Bucks/Flospreay. It was good but yeah again they take liberties with the Bucks double teams to the point they should just be in tornado tags every week. Also feel Ospreay is getting a Callis family beatdown at some point here maybe with the return of Hobbes (where the fuck is he?)

    FTW title officially retired now. I guess it was a nice Hook/Taz moment.

    Mariah/Yuka was okay but yeah just couldn’t take Yuka seriously as a challenger. Willow might be semi-interesting but as great as Mariah is, the face competition just isn’t there right now.

    Mox/Darby was fun and did like the NXT callback of Bryan using a tie to choke out Moxley. Fantasy Booker Badger says he gets through Moxley, Christian cashes in but Copeland returns (depending on how long he’s out for) costs him, he gives it to Ospreay once he’s done with the Callis Family and then rides off into the sunset next year.

    Where’s Shane at?

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    The Billy Gunn/Hans swerve on Collision was pretty funny. This gimmick has the potential to work in the craziness here rather than WWE.

    Also nice how they protected Minoru Suzuki rather than Jack just pin him, also adds to his Scapegoat character. Also no Nigel this week but that could be him just selling the match with Bryan. I’d love if they could do a Jericho deal where he can commentate yet still wrestle now and again.

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    They're randomly doing Danielson vs Okada on Wednesday for the title

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    It's not like TK to randomly do possible PPV matches on free TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    They're randomly doing Danielson vs Okada on Wednesday for the title
    dont forget that the first 20 minutes are also for Okada’s title for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero! View Post
    dont forget that the first 20 minutes are also for Okada’s title for some reason.

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    Someone explain why that stipulation is a thing.....I thought at first it was because Okada's meaningless title had a 20 minute time limit gimmick already but I'm not seeing anything.

    The "sickos" are telling Twitter that we're finally getting that big $9 trillion deal from WBD and these are celebration matches........

    You know, before AEW existed the weirdest shit I'd see on the internet were those crazy fans over in India that would die on a hill about how great Roman Reigns in 2017 was.

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    It’s so Bryan can win it after 20 mins, but Okada doesn’t lose his consolation title.

    booker of the year

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    I am pretty sure the logic is because Okada's title has 20 minute limit matches. Still very weird and like Hero! said it is probably so that Danielson can win after 20 minutes and no title changes hand even though it is a title for title match. Why even make a title for title match?

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    There’s no 20 minute time limit on the belt. Only limit is no one allowed at ringside.

    The 20 minute thing is literally just lazy booking.

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    I know that it doesn't say it anywhere about a 20 minute limit on matches but wasn't the tournament all 20 minute limit matches. I thought the title matches were also 20 minutes. Maybe I am imagining things.

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    Okada retained over Claudio when it went the 20 minute time limit. Looking around they are 20 minute matches.

    I agree still lazy and shitty booking. Just don't make it title for title.

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    that is hilarious. Why can’t any of this shit be stated anywhere?

    Oh well, it’s for the sickos anyway.

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    tk says he may have a big announcement tomorrow before showtime, which ya gotta assume is the tv deal. also says the show will have a 'significant' overrun.

    i bet okada/danielson goes on last, with the first 20 minutes expiring right at the top of the hour or shortly after, and then they go another 10-15 minutes for the overrun.

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    Or, they get to 20 right at the top of the hour and they then go a further 45-60, for shits and giggles.

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    Right off the bat, that Ospreay/Ricochet finish is ass. Both of em.

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    they were fine.

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    the DQ finish was great. i also always enjoy takeshita's outfits.

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    It's a shame that AEW is so fucking terrible right now to watch that they're going to be on Max and I could not care less. Something I was waiting to happen and now here it is and I'm like.....yay.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    the DQ finish was great. i also always enjoy takeshita's outfits.
    puffy pants haven't looked that cool since the early 90's

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    AEW is going nowhere for a bit with the new deal. Probably too many Dusty finishes for the 5th Anniversary show, but I like where most of it is going.

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    What bothers me is that Batgirl had a $90 million budget and they wouldn't release it because some people thought it was mediocre. But they're going to give AEW half a billion over 5 years? Edit: Shit I forgot about Coyote v. Acme getting cancelled as well.

    They should've used that money to make House of Dragons 2nd season better/longer.

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    Ricochet was a waste of money now everybody works at a fast pace and hits clean spots. He's been lapped by people with a personality. I can't imagine pushing him over a Rush or Beast Mortos.

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    rush has been boring as shit.

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    agreed on ricochet, he adds little to the product and the very last thing in the world AEW needs is more poeple on the roster. at this point unless it's cody or roman reigns, i think just about anyone in wrestling they can sign is a net deficit to the product because their biggest problem is having way too many people to effectively feature any with enough consistency to get them over and get the audience really involved in their stories.

    that said, i'm somewhat into lashley coming in because AEW could use a big guy who actually wrestles like a big guy instead of the now tired "big guy who wrestles like a cruiserweight"

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    Biggest news of the night for me was motherfucking RICO appearing on the Zero Hour with MxM. Was always a big fan and hoped he might pop up in a Rumble or something. Dude looked great considering his age and the serious health issues he's been through. Even rocked the same gear from the early 00's, threw a spin kick, took a Fameasser. Awesome.

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    He's the game changer AEW desperately needs.

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    @Nash Diesel thoughts on Wheeler heel turn? Maybe you might actually start to like him lol.

    Seriously wondering how this will affect Christian’s cash-in. Could see Ospreay being the eventual one once he’s done with Callis and Christian at least making an attempt because he ain’t cashing in on Moxley.

    Also Young Bucks need real challengers. Would love to see the Outrunners do it.
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    A couple things. People need to stop worrying about who AEW can sign to "change the game" Fuck that noise that is a stupid ass approach in today's climate. Even WCW fell into signing Hulk Hogan it wasn't like he left WWF and showed up in Orlando the next week. It's like with WWE. They had no idea Roman Reigns as a heel would pop off to this degree, that Cody Rhodes of all people would come back as this mega babyface genuinely accepted by the fans. I don't think Tony Khan is doing that but I think some fans get too wrapped up in it because as it's been said the reality is there are only a handful of people and none of them are full time. Even if Roman Reigns went to AEW, so what? People think because the nWo popped off the way it did that's all it takes, no. WCW had Hogan, Sting, Savage, they were barely competitive until the right storyline at the right time.
    @Badger Fuck no. I thought maybe but naw, gave up 2 seconds into it because it was so predictable. I honestly have no idea how anyone could legit be invested in AEW. Can I watch wrestling and give zero fucks about a storyline? Absolutely. 42 years on Earth, 37 as a fan, you learn how to tune out certain aspects that you might expect more of from a company you follow. I don't give a fuck what's going on with the Detroit Lions but I can watch them and be entertained if nothing is else is on.

    AEW is a mess right now. I respect trying to have multiple stories that intertwine but I don't see that right now. It's just goofy right now and they're all over the place trying to see what pointless movie they can steal from about neo nazis or trying to Clockwork Orange us into forgetting about The Devil storyline idk man. Then they are still trying to make Yuta thing, you have Mrs. Strong and her mother's milk ruining everything cool about Jon Moxley. For me Jon Moxley died the day he cried like a bitch backstage because CM Punk didn't care about Rocky 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    A couple things. People need to stop worrying about who AEW can sign to "change the game" Fuck that noise that is a stupid ass approach in today's climate. Even WCW fell into signing Hulk Hogan it wasn't like he left WWF and showed up in Orlando the next week. It's like with WWE. They had no idea Roman Reigns as a heel would pop off to this degree, that Cody Rhodes of all people would come back as this mega babyface genuinely accepted by the fans. I don't think Tony Khan is doing that but I think some fans get too wrapped up in it because as it's been said the reality is there are only a handful of people and none of them are full time. Even if Roman Reigns went to AEW, so what? People think because the nWo popped off the way it did that's all it takes, no. WCW had Hogan, Sting, Savage, they were barely competitive until the right storyline at the right time.
    @Badger Fuck no. I thought maybe but naw, gave up 2 seconds into it because it was so predictable. I honestly have no idea how anyone could legit be invested in AEW. Can I watch wrestling and give zero fucks about a storyline? Absolutely. 42 years on Earth, 37 as a fan, you learn how to tune out certain aspects that you might expect more of from a company you follow. I don't give a fuck what's going on with the Detroit Lions but I can watch them and be entertained if nothing is else is on.

    AEW is a mess right now. I respect trying to have multiple stories that intertwine but I don't see that right now. It's just goofy right now and they're all over the place trying to see what pointless movie they can steal from about neo nazis or trying to Clockwork Orange us into forgetting about The Devil storyline idk man. Then they are still trying to make Yuta thing, you have Mrs. Strong and her mother's milk ruining everything cool about Jon Moxley. For me Jon Moxley died the day he cried like a bitch backstage because CM Punk didn't care about Rocky 3.
    Agree with this 100%.

    I still watch Dynamite and PPVs. PPVs are still fun. Dynamite is hit and miss.

    I am yet to see Forbidden Door, All Out and Wrestledream, but all sound like they are worth a watch, so will get to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    A couple things. People need to stop worrying about who AEW can sign to "change the game" Fuck that noise that is a stupid ass approach in today's climate. Even WCW fell into signing Hulk Hogan it wasn't like he left WWF and showed up in Orlando the next week. It's like with WWE. They had no idea Roman Reigns as a heel would pop off to this degree, that Cody Rhodes of all people would come back as this mega babyface genuinely accepted by the fans. I don't think Tony Khan is doing that but I think some fans get too wrapped up in it because as it's been said the reality is there are only a handful of people and none of them are full time. Even if Roman Reigns went to AEW, so what? People think because the nWo popped off the way it did that's all it takes, no. WCW had Hogan, Sting, Savage, they were barely competitive until the right storyline at the right time.
    @Badger Fuck no. I thought maybe but naw, gave up 2 seconds into it because it was so predictable. I honestly have no idea how anyone could legit be invested in AEW. Can I watch wrestling and give zero fucks about a storyline? Absolutely. 42 years on Earth, 37 as a fan, you learn how to tune out certain aspects that you might expect more of from a company you follow. I don't give a fuck what's going on with the Detroit Lions but I can watch them and be entertained if nothing is else is on.

    AEW is a mess right now. I respect trying to have multiple stories that intertwine but I don't see that right now. It's just goofy right now and they're all over the place trying to see what pointless movie they can steal from about neo nazis or trying to Clockwork Orange us into forgetting about The Devil storyline idk man. Then they are still trying to make Yuta thing, you have Mrs. Strong and her mother's milk ruining everything cool about Jon Moxley. For me Jon Moxley died the day he cried like a bitch backstage because CM Punk didn't care about Rocky 3.
    Yeah I was just joshing a bit to see what you’d say about Yuta.

    However on a serious note, I’m not sure I’m feeling this “new” BCC yet. Though the thing that really gets me is how we’re supposed to cheer Cole now against MJF when he was the one who turned in the first place.

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    I'm not feeling it at all. If I'm being honest, Moxley should've gone Crow Sting with it and just started fucking everyone up-including the BCC. But AEW needs to have everyone in a stable they can't book for shit so they just lump everyone together and hope nobody notices.

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    Wrong thread.
    Last edited by Murphy; October 23rd, 2024 at 10:49 AM.

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    Ricky Starks showed up here in St. Louis at a Glory Pro show yesterday. Man I almost went to that show. He set a up a match for the next show in November. Guess he is getting bored sitting on the sidelines for no reason after dropping the tag titles and his partner going with Jericho.

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    Big AJ vs QT Marshall
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    i am so excited, this will be my first time watching an AEW match in probably a year.

    you can’t beat the excitement of a big match like this

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    Sounds like sarcasm.

    Will Max be streaming AEW PPVs live? If so, when do they start? I may attempt to watch one of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Sounds like sarcasm.

    Will Max be streaming AEW PPVs live? If so, when do they start? I may attempt to watch one of these.
    Streaming at a discount I think. WWE has spoiled us with the Network and Peacock. Shame though. I actually just got Max after getting a great bundle of that and something else. Otherwise I wouldn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Sounds like sarcasm.

    Will Max be streaming AEW PPVs live? If so, when do they start? I may attempt to watch one of these.
    nope, I’m actually excited to see how the fucking Costco guy does. He and his weird little son fascinate me.

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    I hope AEW pushes Bobby Lashley straight to the top of the mountain.

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    They will and then he will lose and get lost in the shuffle.

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    I can't wait to see Lashley v. Moxley for the World title. Black Panthers v. KKK

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    Not going to lie I really like the thought of a Lashley/Moxley match.

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    Didn't they feud prior to Ambrose's exit from WWE? Lashley said he would take care of deans wife for him once he left WWE ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Not going to lie I really like the thought of a Lashley/Moxley match.
    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Didn't they feud prior to Ambrose's exit from WWE? Lashley said he would take care of deans wife for him once he left WWE ��
    Yep Lashley beat Ambrose/Moxley for the IC title. This was right around the time Moxley was leaving WWE because he was going to "retire". Took a page out Kevin Nash's book to get out of his WCW contract lol.

    I have honestly no desire to see Hurt Business rehashed in a 3rd company. AEW just has no real clue what to do with people and maybe we can chalk that up to inexperience just like 30 years ago people said that about Bischoff. I try to just tune in now for the wrestling. I'm not emotionally invested and why should I be? I'm 42 I have very little time for pro wrestling unless it's for example, torturing myself watching Halloween Havoc 1994.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Yep Lashley beat Ambrose/Moxley for the IC title. This was right around the time Moxley was leaving WWE because he was going to "retire". Took a page out Kevin Nash's book to get out of his WCW contract lol.

    I have honestly no desire to see Hurt Business rehashed in a 3rd company. AEW just has no real clue what to do with people and maybe we can chalk that up to inexperience just like 30 years ago people said that about Bischoff. I try to just tune in now for the wrestling. I'm not emotionally invested and why should I be? I'm 42 I have very little time for pro wrestling unless it's for example, torturing myself watching Halloween Havoc 1994.
    What's the 3rd company the Hurt Business has been in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    What's the 3rd company the Hurt Business has been in?
    Technically TNA. The whole MVP/Lashley pair up happened there and they created this group with Low Ki, Kenny King, and Samoa Joe called the Beatdown Clan.

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    Beatdown Clan is an even worse name than Hurt Business Tell me, who comes up with these names? MVP or Lashley?

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    I saw that AEW is doing 40% off select tickets for upcoming events today only

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Beatdown Clan is an even worse name than Hurt Business Tell me, who comes up with these names? MVP or Lashley?
    Man I want to say it was actually Low Ki who came up with it. They were all doing an interview on the radio and I think Low Ki said they were like the "Wu Tang Clan of wrestling"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    I saw that AEW is doing 40% off select tickets for upcoming events today only
    Don't nobody care about ticket sales. 40%, 90%, if you're down with AEW you will already have a ticket-at full price BEFORE any specials.

    I wonder if we're going to see Orange Cassidy get the strap from Moxley. I can't believe OC is 40. Just doesn't seem right but then again I think about CHIKARA and him doing the ant gimmick. That was at least 15 years ago. Wrestling these days is so funny because 20-30 years ago unless you were like Hogan, Flair, you weren't winning the title after 40. Think about this: Shawn Michaels last World title he was only 37. Nowadays shit you could put the belt on quite a few guys 40+ some even 50ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Man I want to say it was actually Low Ki who came up with it. They were all doing an interview on the radio and I think Low Ki said they were like the "Wu Tang Clan of wrestling"
    And Jeremy borash responded with "kaval, name 5 wu tang songs"

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    I haven't gotten tickets for the Collision in St. Louis yet. Thinking about it now depending on prices. I am down with AEW and WWE but I can't go to all the shows that come to town. But discounts help make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    I haven't gotten tickets for the Collision in St. Louis yet. Thinking about it now depending on prices. I am down with AEW and WWE but I can't go to all the shows that come to town. But discounts help make a difference.
    Did you go to Dynasty back in April? I did. Cheesy as hell to say but I'll never forget seeing that match between Ospreay and Danielson, they're definitely two of my favorite wrestlers.

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    When did Statlander turn face? She'd only just turned heel.

    And Mercedes Mone - grass isn't always greener, eh. Think her presentation has been horrible to this point. That said, I only see Dynamite, where she turns up every now and then, it seems.

    AEW is just very meh these days. Shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Did you go to Dynasty back in April? I did. Cheesy as hell to say but I'll never forget seeing that match between Ospreay and Danielson, they're definitely two of my favorite wrestlers.
    Hell yeah I was there. Nice to see you around.

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    It's nice to see Bert? Jesus.

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    I think I've had you pegged wrong all these years to be honest MTR.

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    Just because I don't agree with him politically doesn't mean I don't like him. There are plenty of people I don't agree with politically that I like.

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    Well there lies the problem...since 2016 both here and in The USA it has pretty much stopped being about a 'political' divide and more about wether you are a good person or a piece of shit to be blunt. And less we forget Trump aside, Bert is essentially Mark Hammer regards his views about women, he's repugnant.

    Anyway to steer it slightly on topic, Apparently Jake Hager was doing too much celebrating last night and started calling TK a commie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Well there lies the problem...since 2016 both here and in The USA it has pretty much stopped being about a 'political' divide and more about wether you are a good person or a piece of shit to be blunt. And less we forget Trump aside, Bert is essentially Mark Hammer regards his views about women, he's repugnant.

    Anyway to steer it slightly on topic, Apparently Jake Hager was doing too much celebrating last night and started calling TK a commie
    You really learned nothing from last night. It's impressive in a weird way. Your way of determining someone is a good person is literally what political party they vote for. Grow up.

    Anyway, Dynamite should be fun. I'll probably watch NXT after since it records on YouTube TV.

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    Jake Hager, living up the Real American gimmick.

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    I feel a little responsible for driving away the AEW nutriders but then I realized maybe they too stopped watching lol. NXT beats Dynamite head to head, again. It makes you wonder just how many really fucking hated NXT when it was going head to head lead by Adam Cole lol. Then he goes to AEW and what happens-ratings tank.

    I think it's wild that we have people like Meltzer still doing the whole "NXT v. AEW routine" not realizing it's not a good argument to make. You're basically saying AEW's entire roster can't fuck with the 3rd brand where 99% of the mainstays are lesser known and/or up and coming talent. The argument is "NXT was available in 9% more homes" So fucking what?? "ECW!!!" And?? So you're telling me you have a show littered with former WWE World champions over the last fucking 25 years including a few in the last 5 can't outdraw a 10-women's tag match where only the "sickos" know who they are?? Ricochet, fresh off Monday Night Raw, can't even outdraw Little Guido?? Come on now.

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    I'm just looking forward to Dynamite starting to stream on Max so ordinary people stop worrying about ratings.

    I haven't been super into the weekly TV of either WWE or AEW lately though. I still try to watch Dynamite but I'm on my phone a lot of the time. I haven't been much into NXT since 2.0 happened. I watched for a little when Ethan Page was champ because I think that dude's awesome.

    I watch every AEW PPV though and they're always worth the $20 I pay.
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