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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    When I hear the name Inner Circle, I think of Bad Boys. And when I think of Bad Boys, I think of Martin Lawrence. And when I think of Martin Lawrence, I think of Big Momma's House.

    I suppose it's a better name than the Corre. Or Donald.


    Saw Randy Orton tweet or instagram or whatever it's called with a picture of Elite and tagged Elias, Revival, Jericho, Cody and someone else. Not many people who could leave WWE for AEW and turn heads but Randy is certainly one of them. Elias and Revival wouldn't budge anyone.
    Was Harper as well.

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    I hope Orton jumps to AEW. That would send shockwaves a lot more than Dean Ambrose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I hope Orton jumps to AEW. That would send shockwaves a lot more than Dean Ambrose.
    Hey @Donald - I know you're a huge fan of the WWE only, and you generally don't watch the other stuff. Does the above comment mean you aren't a huge fan of RKO, and you'd like to see him leave Vinceworld? Or that you're considering tuning in to AEW and you want better competition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    Hey @Donald - I know you're a huge fan of the WWE only, and you generally don't watch the other stuff. Does the above comment mean you aren't a huge fan of RKO, and you'd like to see him leave Vinceworld? Or that you're considering tuning in to AEW and you want better competition?
    I like Randy Orton, I'd hate to see him leave. But I recognize his importance and I think he could gives this war more steam

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    Orton bores me to death.

    Perhaps that's because he really IS bored and wants a change himself?

    Just my $.02

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    If Orton ever went to AEW, he probably couldn't use the Orton name.

    WWE blocked Cody from calling himself "Rhodes".

    Maybe Randy could drop the Orton surname, use "Randy Kennedy", and call the RKO the "Kennedy Bullet". Its the shot from out of nowhere, that always hits its target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    If Orton ever went to AEW, he probably couldn't use the Orton name.

    WWE blocked Cody from calling himself "Rhodes".

    Maybe Randy could drop the Orton surname, use "Randy Kennedy", and call the RKO the "Kennedy Bullet". Its the shot from out of nowhere, that always hits its target.
    Only difference is Orton is his actual last name, Rhodes is not Cody's real last name. While Dusty Rhodes probably owned the rights to his name, WWE probably copyrighted Cody Rhodes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Only difference is Orton is his actual last name, Rhodes is not Cody's real last name. While Dusty Rhodes probably owned the rights to his name, WWE probably copyrighted Cody Rhodes
    Fair.

    Frankly, I think Orton needs a change of scenery. Just switching him from brand to brand isn't enough. He'd be a huge needle mover for AEW.

    Hell, he could go to Japan and make a fortune if he wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Only difference is Orton is his actual last name, Rhodes is not Cody's real last name. While Dusty Rhodes probably owned the rights to his name, WWE probably copyrighted Cody Rhodes
    he knows this, he was just setting himself up for his unfunny, incredibly topical and relevant 1963 joke reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    he knows this, he was just setting himself up for his unfunny, incredibly topical and relevant 1963 joke reference.
    His middle name is Kennedy, isn't it?

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    No, it's Keith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    No, it's Keith.
    Well never mind then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Well never mind then.
    this should be your first thought before most of your posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    this should be your first thought before most of your posts.
    Would you just fuck off?

    I don’t know what you have against me, but your constant needling of me is really fucking annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Would you just fuck off?

    I don’t know what you have against me, but your constant needling of me is really fucking annoying.
    good.

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    If you ate bugs, would you dine a mite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post

    I don’t know what you have against me
    my guess would be your shitty posts

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    Yay the matthew and morrison show.

    When you 2 are done 69ing each other while playing Madden can you finally post a pic of the 2 of you in the same place at the same time so we can put this theory to rest?

    PS-Randy Orton can troll like no other. Dude knows how to work people. He's never leaving the WWE.

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    He's not as good at trolling as Matthew and Morrison!

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    While this site has not moved around like Impact broadcasts, there's probably less people watching than their audience.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Yay the matthew and morrison show.

    When you 2 are done 69ing each other while playing Madden can you finally post a pic of the 2 of you in the same place at the same time so we can put this theory to rest?

    PS-Randy Orton can troll like no other. Dude knows how to work people. He's never leaving the WWE.

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    strangely abrupt start to tonights episode. but it is a packed show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    strangely abrupt start to tonights episode. but it is a packed show.
    My best friend DVR's the replay so we started watching it out about 10 minutes after it started last night. He kept thinking that his DVR must have cut out the entrance, he couldn't get over the fact they didn't show these mugs walking down with music.

    My boy is struggling to realize that not everything is going to look and sound like the WWE despite half the roster being former WWE talent, you have the voice of the WWE on commentary, so I get it. But yeah I thought it was dope, just cut out the bullshit and get to the wrestling.

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    I have no idea who that is.

    Also, I read his name as "Anthony Agogo" and laughed a little.

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    He's an Olympic boxer, so that's pretty cool. I'd imagine it will take a while for him to properly train.

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    AEW's counter to Tyson Fury is a boxer nobody has ever heard of. Makes sense.

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    seen Ogogo ko MJF last weekend,, other than that never heard of him

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    I guess he's been training, debuted in Feb of this year. It'll be interesting but he has the right people to help sink or swim. Just having Jericho, Goldust, Arn Anderson, and Dean Malenko is great but then the younger guys like Omega, Cody, etc. Yeah I don't see how this could turn bad unless he just flat out doesn't catch on, which isn't out of the ordinary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    AEW's counter to Tyson Fury is a boxer nobody has ever heard of. Makes sense.

    Is Tyson Fury a well known boxer? I had never heard of him before the Smackdown on FOX debut I had heard of Tyson, Mayweather, and even Butterbean before they ever did anything with WWE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Is Tyson Fury a well known boxer? I had never heard of him before the Smackdown on FOX debut I had heard of Tyson, Mayweather, and even Butterbean before they ever did anything with WWE.
    Yes he's a well known boxer. I'm sure a lot of pro wrestling fans who only watch the WWE had no clue who he was.

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    Nice dig

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Yes he's a well known boxer. I'm sure a lot of pro wrestling fans who only watch the WWE had no clue who he was.
    Was never interested enough to look him up but for some reason I thought he was black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    AEW's counter to Tyson Fury is a boxer nobody has ever heard of. Makes sense.
    Except Tyson Fury is just coming in for a Saudi payday and then fucking off. I don't think the situations are comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer-Belly View Post
    Except Tyson Fury is just coming in for a Saudi payday and then fucking off. I don't think the situations are comparable.
    I thought it was one time deal for now, but after his next fight he may retire from boxing and come to WWE full time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Nice dig
    Honestly it wasn't even a dig until after I posted it and thought, fuck, he's going to think I'm knocking him. When in reality it was just a general term because there were several people in the Smackdown thread who were like "Who the fuck is this guy he's not even famous WWE made him now!" But yeah after I posted it I was like, fuck, he's going to think I took a shot at him and it was just really way of saying I get why people wouldn't know he was compared to some of the crossover boxers like Tyson, Butterbean, Ali, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagel View Post
    Was never interested enough to look him up but for some reason I thought he was black.
    haha, because his name sounds like he's black. Tyson Fury sounds like a black comic book character or character in Street Fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beer-Belly View Post
    Except Tyson Fury is just coming in for a Saudi payday and then fucking off. I don't think the situations are comparable.
    Naw I was just busting the balls of AEW. WWE snags Tyson Fury, AEW feels like they need a boxer too. Only this time their boxer is a legally blind retired boxer who's already been wrestling here and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Honestly it wasn't even a dig until after I posted it and thought, fuck, he's going to think I'm knocking him. When in reality it was just a general term because there were several people in the Smackdown thread who were like "Who the fuck is this guy he's not even famous WWE made him now!" But yeah after I posted it I was like, fuck, he's going to think I took a shot at him and it was just really way of saying I get why people wouldn't know he was compared to some of the crossover boxers like Tyson, Butterbean, Ali, etc.
    You can knock me, I know I'm a very much pro WWE guy. Look, I gave AEW a shot this past week. It's just not for me. Everything from the commentary, to the in ring action, to the weird sound that's made whenever someone hits the mat. Just screams WCW. And I didn't like WCW. Not knocking anyone who likes AEW, fine by me. The more wrestling, the more competition, the better. Maybe after 30 years I'm just programmed and conditioned to WWE that anything else just isn't going to click with me.

    Also, this is entirely my opinion, I think Cody just started the company so he can win a world title, because he wasn't good enough to ever win it in the WWE. He's gonna lose the match at whatever the PPV is called, due to interference from Inner Circle - Bad Boys.mp3. Then he'll get a rematch with Jericho in a steel cage or their Hell in a Cell rip off Fire Surrounded by Wire, and get his big championship celebration moment.

    And Jack Swagger, please come back to WWE, if you're reading this. I love you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Is Tyson Fury a well known boxer? I had never heard of him before the Smackdown on FOX debut I had heard of Tyson, Mayweather, and even Butterbean before they ever did anything with WWE.
    Hes a world ubified heavyweight champion who dethroned Wladimir Klitschko who had rules the division for ten years.

    Problem is the heavy division has been dominated by Europeans in europe for the last two decades so they arent really known that well outside of there.

    It didnt help Fury that he was banned for taking Peds for two years just after he won the title and retired for a while, blew uo to about 25 stone and had a lide crisis but hes been doing well at building his star power since he returned and hs based himself in the USA with a US promoter.

    Youll probably see a lit more of them all soon because with Fury, Wilder and Ruiz all based in the US and likely Joshua returning there if he beats Ruiz its gonna be all the hyoe in boxing fir the next few years.

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    And tbf to Ogogo he is an Olympic medalist. He just didnt transfer to the pros very well and then had a bad eye injury that retired him.

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    AEW's official Twitter is a touch annoying. Jimmy Havoc is making his 'long awaited' return to AEW on Dark tonight.

    They were also running a countdown yesterday to a 'major announcement'. All day, every hour. Ended up being announcing the next town Dynamite is going to be in.

    And I'm now getting porn on my timeline because AEW follows the porn site Brazzers.

    OK, that last one is kinda funny.

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    I find all of Twitter annoying, to be honest.

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    I use it more than any other social media site. I do need to keep my 'following' to a minimum though, or it can get annoying and repetitive.

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    Watching AEW Dark. QT Marshall looks decent, Peter Avalon looks like a tube of toothpaste that’s been squeezed empty except for his head.

    Sonny Kiss... *farts*. Fucking dork. How can any gay person see this guy flouncing and bouncing around like a sweet transvestite from Transylvania and actually like his shit? He’s a walking, talking gay stereotype who sexually harasses men by slamming his ass into their heads.

    Dustin Rhodes deserves better than this bullshit.

    Somehow, in a match with Sonny Kiss playing a gay gimmick as subtle as a punch to the face and dressed like a gay pride parade float, the queerest looking thing in this match is Peter Avalon’s man bun.

    Leva Bates is wicked hot, but she needs a gimmick change. This librarian thing is grim death.

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    Sonny kiss is playing an exotico, a common gimmick in Mexican wrestling but not really attested in America wrestling. He does it well and I like him. He and Dustin were a fun team and I liked that tag match a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    I use it more than any other social media site. I do need to keep my 'following' to a minimum though, or it can get annoying and repetitive.
    Might sound hypocritical, being on a message board and all, but I wish commenting on Twitter posts, YouTube videos, news articles, etc. was banned, as I'd say 75% of them are hate filled, antagonizing filth. Ever read a Rajah.com article, then read the comments? It's a bit ridiculous how people act towards each other when it's mostly anonymous.


    Back to AEW, and this is a question I've been thinking a lot. What makes that sound in the ring? How come it doesn't happen in a WWE ring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Might sound hypocritical, being on a message board and all, but I wish commenting on Twitter posts, YouTube videos, news articles, etc. was banned, as I'd say 75% of them are hate filled, antagonizing filth. Ever read a Rajah.com article, then read the comments? It's a bit ridiculous how people act towards each other when it's mostly anonymous.
    Oh God, I don't read the comments! Yeah, that's some toxic shit right there. I'd rather insert wasps up my arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Might sound hypocritical, being on a message board and all, but I wish commenting on Twitter posts, YouTube videos, news articles, etc. was banned, as I'd say 75% of them are hate filled, antagonizing filth. Ever read a Rajah.com article, then read the comments? It's a bit ridiculous how people act towards each other when it's mostly anonymous.


    Back to AEW, and this is a question I've been thinking a lot. What makes that sound in the ring? How come it doesn't happen in a WWE ring?
    True. It's probably some of the same people who pop in the weekly show threads and are sick of WWE programming yet continue to watch....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Might sound hypocritical, being on a message board and all, but I wish commenting on Twitter posts, YouTube videos, news articles, etc. was banned, as I'd say 75% of them are hate filled, antagonizing filth. Ever read a Rajah.com article, then read the comments? It's a bit ridiculous how people act towards each other when it's mostly anonymous.


    Back to AEW, and this is a question I've been thinking a lot. What makes that sound in the ring? How come it doesn't happen in a WWE ring?
    I bet it's how they have it mic'd up underneath. ECW was loud as fuck too.

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    was that a new theme?

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    Is it called Triggered cause he looks like a horse? And is he called Le Champion cause he's a sissy like the French?

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    That womens match was sloppy as all frick.

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    Peter Avalon just reminds me of a really poor version of Damian Sandow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chatty View Post
    Peter Avalon just reminds me of a really poor version of Damian Sandow.
    And Damian Sandow was just a poor man’s version of “The Genius” Lanny Poffo.

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    I don't know what Sandow is up to these days, but considering he was in a tag team with Cody Rhodes at one point, I'm expecting him to debut on AEW and win a title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I don't know what Sandow is up to these days, but considering he was in a tag team with Cody Rhodes at one point, I'm expecting him to debut on AEW and win a title.
    He has been on the last couple of NWA POWERRR episodes as Aron Stevens.

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    Honestly, an Aron Stevens/Cody Rhodes feud or even a partnership would be really interesting. I wish NWA and AEW would open some kind of working relationship.

    "The Next Generation vs. The Best Generation" - AEW vs. NWA Powerrr.

    Jim Cornette could gut Excalibur with a rusty fishing knife in the back for never taking off his mask.

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    I would love to hear Corny calling an All Petite Wrestling match staring the Young Fucks, and Kenny Olivier Omega and all their Cos Play Wrestling Friends. That would be a riot. Make sure Jelly Jenela, and Marko Stunt are involved and Corny will be in Heel Heaven.

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    middle of the road show, but had some good highpoints: jericho's parody, cody's promo, mox/omega vignette, a better than average woman's match, the mayhem at the end.

    had fun

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    I kind of want to see Jericho & Guevara to win the Tag Belts, only to lose them to Cody & Dustin. With Cody pinning Jericho.

    At the next PPV it would then be Cody & Dustin vs. Lucha Bros.

    I really wanna see Dustin and Pentagon mix it up

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    How do you think Cody will get his eventual world title reign? Turn heel and go against his word?

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    Nick Jackson mentioned on twitter that rather than have win/loss records go on and on, there would be a reset at some point. Like a new season. I really like that idea.

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    That's the only way the system will work. Solves so many problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    Nick Jackson mentioned on twitter that rather than have win/loss records go on and on, there would be a reset at some point. Like a new season. I really like that idea.
    I honestly didn't see how this wasn't going to be the solution lol. They reset in other sports, so this should be no different.

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    I think they'll abandon the idea of win/loss records after a while. It's cool and all, but I don't think it really works in the wrestling world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I think they'll abandon the idea of win/loss records after a while. It's cool and all, but I don't think it really works in the wrestling world.
    You might be right in the long run, but the reset concept makes it completely workable. They only have to follow the ranking for like 6-12 months, then they can start fresh and go whatever direction they want.

    They've actually handled the concept of rankings really well so far. I like that I haven't watched AEW Dark, but when Allie randomly appears on my screen, they explain that she's been working her way to Dynamite by climbing the rankings through Dark matches. That's solid, subtle, and workable storytelling that doesn't need any kind of immediate payoff.

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    it would be cool if they made an explicit rule that you had to have a certain win/loss ratio or number of wins in singles matches to challenge for the title. they could build scorpio/jericho by scorpio having to take on singles matches every week to get his record good enough to challenge and the inner circle can keep trying to screw him. good way to build for a month or so up to the title match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    That's the only way the system will work. Solves so many problems.
    Absolutely. Would be cool if 1 'season' was scheduled ahead of time just to see how that could work. If you knew you were facing X in 3 weeks etc what sort of build or interesting things could they do.

    Matches aren't necessarily grudge matches etc so story telling can be a bit different. I think it makes PPV's harder though

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    There are only a few things I have enjoyed about AEW.. MJF, PAC and the Lucha Bros(mainly because Pentagon Jr is one of my favorite current wrestlers).. the rest of it doesn't really interest me thus far. I find it hard to watch without fast forwarding through a lot of it.. I hope that changes as time goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    Nick Jackson mentioned on twitter that rather than have win/loss records go on and on, there would be a reset at some point. Like a new season. I really like that idea.
    It only works in real sports because there is a huge gap between seasons.

    Now imagine you're the Boston Celtics. Your record is 100-30 but then the next week, it's reset to 0-0. All that hard work, for nothing.

    Put that in wrestling land. Moxley goes 25-4 and the next day he's back to 0-0. And he didn't even get a title shot because of scheduling and booking ignorance.

    Why don't they just hit up the folks who track all the wrestlers wins/losses online and just have them sent over AEW data weekly?

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    Id be a fan of them keeping the records full on. Use old school boxing as a guide. You had old timers with 50 loses become champions or top contenders, younhad good boxers with over 100 loses. What they need to do then is tell the story of how they started off slow but got better with each match and worked their way up the ladder.

    The main problem they have with records being meaningful is that if someone gets hot they cant hotshot them into the main event without putting work in first, building theor record whereas sometimes in wrestling people can jump up the roster very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chatty View Post
    Id be a fan of them keeping the records full on. Use old school boxing as a guide. You had old timers with 50 loses become champions or top contenders, younhad good boxers with over 100 loses. What they need to do then is tell the story of how they started off slow but got better with each match and worked their way up the ladder.

    The main problem they have with records being meaningful is that if someone gets hot they cant hotshot them into the main event without putting work in first, building theor record whereas sometimes in wrestling people can jump up the roster very quickly.
    If they don't make every angle centered around rankings as the end all be all they'll be fine. MMA does it all the time, giving low ranked or even unranked fighters big fights based on storyline and/or drawing power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    It only works in real sports because there is a huge gap between seasons.

    Now imagine you're the Boston Celtics. Your record is 100-30 but then the next week, it's reset to 0-0. All that hard work, for nothing.

    Put that in wrestling land. Moxley goes 25-4 and the next day he's back to 0-0. And he didn't even get a title shot because of scheduling and booking ignorance.

    Why don't they just hit up the folks who track all the wrestlers wins/losses online and just have them sent over AEW data weekly?
    I think it's more the finals than the gap between the seasons right?

    Like if AEW had finals month that built to their biggest POV of the year which was KOTR style for the different divisions with a semi and then final that might be kinda nice.

    Next TV show you can have them getting their championship rings or whatever and the belt becomes more like the yellow jersey at the tour de france

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    This is fun...


    I'm not "all in" but these guys are some of the AEW cast that have my interest.

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    That's some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen

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    It's clear Donald has Fear of a Jurassic Planet

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    You'd be correct.

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    I'm hoping we can get the following Championship Matches in 2020:

    -Chris Jericho (c) vs. Dustin Rhodes
    -Chris Jericho (c) vs. Fenix
    -Chris Jericho (c) vs. Jon Moxley
    -Jon Moxley (c) vs. Jake Hager
    -Jon Moxley (c) vs. Adam Page
    -Jon Moxley (c) vs. Pentagon
    -Jon Moxley (c) vs. PAC
    -Jon Moxley (c) vs. Kenny Omega

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    Moxley is definitely a foregone conclusion. I'm assuming that's the next big program for Jericho, and since he is refusing to fight him, that's probably what'll be dragged out until the next PPV. Maybe the homecoming show.

    I generally like the list, though. Seeing either of the Lucha Bros in a world title match would be badass.

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    I think Hangman screwed up his career by not staying in Japan for last years G1.

    He would have went far in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinner View Post
    I think Hangman screwed up his career by not staying in Japan for last years G1.

    He would have went far in that.
    I think he screwed up his career by being bland.

    In all seriousness, he's a guy that if more people could get familiar with and maybe see something in he could go far. But I never ever ever hear anyone talking about him, even leading up to fighting Jericho he just never seemed to make any waves.

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    So what you're saying is, he isn't elite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    So what you're saying is, he isn't elite?
    He is, purely by association. If he truly was, people would be talking about him, people would have been rooting for him to beat Jericho because they like Adam Page. Not because Jericho's old or a former WWE guy or to "shock the system" as another group likes to preach. But because they wanted Adam fuckin Page baybay as their World champion.

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    They should get Adam Page in the WWE, and have him feud with Adam Cole, and their dads, Diamond Dallas and Michael, can act as their managers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    They should get Adam Page in the WWE, and have him feud with Adam Cole, and their dads, Diamond Dallas and Michael, can act as their managers.
    That just reminded me of the time where it seemed like the only 2 names you were allowed to have in Ring of Honor was Jay and Adam.

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