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    I hope this doesn’t turn into a game of who is CM Punk paying homage to this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    God I hope we don't get a copy of hbk vs hart from survivor series 1997. Imagine punk spelling Impact in the air.
    I wouldn't put it past Punk to pull out a sharpshooter and turn heel somehow in the process.

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    Damn. Of course the one week I forget to watch Brody King shows up. AEW off to a hot start this year already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    I hope this doesn’t turn into a game of who is CM Punk paying homage to this time?
    Austin double turn with Bryan coming soon.

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    TK on The Briscoes:
    We will have to wait and see I guess but they’re a great team who I have followed for well over 15 years. Who am I kidding? Much longer than that and I think they’re great wrestlers.”
    DC is 2 hours from Sandy Fork and Dem Boys owe FTR some payback. There's really no reason for this random match with Brock Anderson and Shotty Lee on Dynamite next week. I'm just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Yeah, I was wondering about that. Julia was clearly saying "that's enough" when they were beating down Black. I wouldn't mind her turning heel.
    Add in the subtle foregoing the sports jacket for a black top as well.

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    I gotta be honest. I love Wardlow.

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    I legit laughed at The Acclaimed’s diss track. Two grown men going through a goth phase is a nice hook.

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    That and “The Acclaimed leaving opponents all motionless. They ain’t got a shot like Novak Djokovic.” lol:

    Love the Acclaimed

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    LOVE The Briscoes. Jay Briscoe as ROH World champion was the last real moment of joy that I had with ROH that didn't involve Japanese imports or Dalton Castle.

    Until I saw that brawl with them and FTR. I want to see on a national tv level. IDC if it's AEW, WWE, ROH, the masses need to see it. What I don't want is people digging up those tweets from Jay Briscoe especially with how Donald Trump TK can be with the Twitter machine. That shit will probably keep them from a contract but as long as we get a few FTR matches I'm golden.

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    I watched a part of Dynamite. Adam Cole stuff wasn't exciting for me. Kind of enjoyed Wardlow vs. Punk, though it made Punk look very weak. Hopefully we see Wardlow take out Shawn Spears. Looked very much like WWE TV to me, which it didn't seem that way whenever I last watched anything AEW. Only differences are the entrance way and the turnbuckles.

    I'm trying.

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    I actually liked UE. Which led to mth and Nash trying to kick me out of the NXT thread,

    However, I'm not sure of the wisdom of running it back at this level. They sold merch at NXT and popped, but didn't seem to draw ratings (not like many people actually do draw). Just doesn't seem like it will help grow AEW.

    If there's ever a true invasion angle that is well-executed, I will retract any critique.





    Also, Wardlow needs to dump "Mr. Mayhem". Doesn't need WarDog either. Should be just Wardlow. His merch should just read "Wardlow, Mother Fucker"

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    wardog is great

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    You would think that.


    You just go chant war dog, as you wear your "Mr Mayhem shirt" over your Christy Hemme-Powered autographed tank top, while wearing your Roman Reigns "The Guy" gym pants, and drink out of your Sparky Plugg freezer mug.



    But you do it alone, because I'm not there for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I actually liked UE. Which led to mth and Nash trying to kick me out of the NXT thread,

    However, I'm not sure of the wisdom of running it back at this level. They sold merch at NXT and popped, but didn't seem to draw ratings (not like many people actually do draw). Just doesn't seem like it will help grow AEW.

    If there's ever a true invasion angle that is well-executed, I will retract any critique.





    Also, Wardlow needs to dump "Mr. Mayhem". Doesn't need WarDog either. Should be just Wardlow. His merch should just read "Wardlow, Mother Fucker"
    The only time NXT beat AEW in the demo it was on cards with Adam Cole or UE.

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    Demo doesn't mean near as much as it used to, as a lot companies are actually trying to broaden appeal. Looking at ad cost tracking, the demo mark-up is getting smaller and smaller, and largely non-existent.


    Regardless those ratings estimates were still typically within MOE, and not sustained. It was close enough where measurement error was often as likely a source as actual viewership. The overall trend has not been kind to NXT and resulted in the move. UE was near omnipresent when NXT was basically moved out of direct competiation.


    And look, I own a UE shirt. I liked those weekly shows better than the current greenies (although there are some I like).

    I just don't see evidence that they can expand the base. Particularly if they run a similar play.

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    Rumor is Cody is working without a contract. Would be interesting if he went somewhere else. No desire to see him in WWE though. Unless it's a surprise Rumble showing only to be eliminated by Madcap Moss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Demo doesn't mean near as much as it used to, as a lot companies are actually trying to broaden appeal. Looking at ad cost tracking, the demo mark-up is getting smaller and smaller, and largely non-existent.


    Regardless those ratings estimates were still typically within MOE, and not sustained. It was close enough where measurement error was often as likely a source as actual viewership. The overall trend has not been kind to NXT and resulted in the move. UE was near omnipresent when NXT was basically moved out of direct competiation.


    And look, I own a UE shirt. I liked those weekly shows better than the current greenies (although there are some I like).

    I just don't see evidence that they can expand the base. Particularly if they run a similar play.
    Take into consideration who brags about the "Key demo" which literally no wrestling fan or really any dirt sheet idiot spoke about until AEW. Imagine 25 years ago and Bert is like "Well, Raw beat Nitro in the key demo!!" Shit back then it actually mattered. Now, not so much because advertisers don't solely rely on television to advertise these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Rumor is Cody is working without a contract. Would be interesting if he went somewhere else. No desire to see him in WWE though. Unless it's a surprise Rumble showing only to be eliminated by Madcap Moss.
    It would be fucking hilarious if it was Cody. The WWE already showed AEW who runs this shit by putting Jericho on a WWE show. Notice you don't see any contracted WWE talent going on an AEW show. Jericho talking all that shit and jumps at the chance to be back on WWE programming.

    Cody....All that slighting of Triple H-while saying he's his favorite and learned so much-would be hilarious. I'm not a big WWE mark, but I do enjoy when talent of any kind shit on the WWE so hard and then go back the second Vince allows it.

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    I could see Madcap Moss making a huge name for himself eliminating Stardust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    I could see Madcap Moss making a huge name for himself eliminating Stardust
    I want Stardust in AEW. Or on the show Heels where he goes into the multi verse of wrestling and demands a match with Jack Spade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Rumor is Cody is working without a contract. Would be interesting if he went somewhere else. No desire to see him in WWE though. Unless it's a surprise Rumble showing only to be eliminated by Madcap Moss.
    And people are already speculating it's a storyline for Cody's reality show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    And people are already speculating it's a storyline for Cody's reality show.
    Hmm. Interesting. Maybe they're trying to get some kind of footage of Cody and Tony having a Bret-Vince Wrestling with Shadows moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I want Stardust in AEW. Or on the show Heels where he goes into the multi verse of wrestling and demands a match with Jack Spade.
    Same here. Stardust needs to be bigger than wrestling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    Same here. Stardust needs to be bigger than wrestling.
    I would even go as far as bringing in Ascension, obviously under a different name. I enjoyed their trio. Not to mention, they could easily say Kris Statlander brought Stardust over to AEW.

    How would Broken Matt Hardy work into this? Wasn't he some type of celestial being?

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    Even though the dude was stuck in some bullshit here and there in WWE and AEW he's been my 2nd favorite wrestler next to Asuka, pretty much since CM Punk left WWE.

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    That oughta put butts in seats.

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    Glad to see him back

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    Swerve to the House of Black, please. He's already wearing the clothes.

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    Hope this isn't against the rules but, here goes...

    I have 2 tickets to AEW Rampage in DC, Section 106. I can't go. You have to show proof you had a shot in order to go. Email me: greebull@gmail.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by greebull View Post
    Hope this isn't against the rules but, here goes...

    I have 2 tickets to AEW Rampage in DC, Section 106. I can't go. You have to show proof you had a shot in order to go. Email me: greebull@gmail.com
    You should go post on reddit if you haven't already.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle
    https://www.reddit.com/r/AEWOfficial

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    I read It in the late 90s. Good book.

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    Do you think 25 years ago when Sting was hanging from the rafters with Macho Man Randy Savage about to fight off the nWo that he was thinking he'd still be doing this?

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    Sounds likely.

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    I wonder what his thoughts are on working with The Acclaim.

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    Will be missing AEW tonight, but here's the rajah discord link any case!

    https://discord.com/channels/8841398...88534878404618

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    What did that dude yell at Mox?

    Mox looks good. Dropped some weight and looks like he’s in much better shape. Mox vs House of Black, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    What did that dude yell at Mox?

    Mox looks good. Dropped some weight and looks like he’s in much better shape. Mox vs House of Black, please.
    "Boo get this drunken piece of trash out of the ring"

    A well deserved fuck you live on TBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    "Boo get this drunken piece of trash out of the ring"

    A well deserved fuck you live on TBS.
    Yeah the live fuck you was great. Couldn’t quite make out the dude was yelling but fuck him.

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    Good on Mox.

    If they keep Britt appearing with Adam, that will mitigate some of my earlier concern about them just running Undisputed Era back.
    Last edited by Mazer; January 19th, 2022 at 9:42 PM.

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    FTR match got scrapped I think. That sucks. I want Dem Boys.

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    sting and darby are the best tag team in wrestling

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    Great Moxley promo. Wasn’t intentional but he absolutely neutered Jericho’s feeble attempt to get GYF over.

    I thought Cody did a nice job navigating the crowd through his promo. It was certainly a good promo and will have people talking. I don’t get why he needed to go with the Jay Lethal route and the Brodie route. Those felt a little too forced.

    I’m very curious to see how the Anna/Jade match goes.

    Sting is something else.

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    I find everything Cody does to be an eye rolling bore. Crowd was into it at first but then they wanted that shit to end halfway through.

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    I actually felt like they hated him at first and he turned it around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Dude looks so much better since drying out. I hope he can stick with it. It’s a lot of hard work but it’s worth it.

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    Absolutely, just looks a lot healthier. Its hard for people to be perfect, and never have a relapse. I hope if he does, people will be understanding. We're all rooting for Mox.


    I actually liked Cody's promo quite a bit, and think he won the crowd a bit (ever so slightly), which is a significant accomplishment in and of itself. That's going to be hard to sustain week after week, but good on him for going for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I actually liked Cody's promo quite a bit, and think he won the crowd a bit (ever so slightly), which is a significant accomplishment in and of itself. That's going to be hard to sustain week after week, but good on him for going for it.
    It was good but the more I thought about it, it took shots at things that didn't necessarily need it. Like, why take a shot at the tag feud that's eventually going to happen (reDRagon & The Bucks) and you're not even involved in it? Same with the Brody/Brodie thing, then mentioning Lethal and Black. The stuff actually in relation to him and the match with Guevara was solid but the rest just felt like a State of the Union (according to Cody) address.

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    I can see that. But to me it came across as his passion and overall feelings of ownership with the company. It felt like it tied into his opening statement. He can't disconnect from his journey, which is why he's not turning, etc.

    Certainly that's just my read, and sure it came across differently to some. But I could kinda feel it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I can see that. But to me it came across as his passion and overall feelings of ownership with the company. It felt like it tied into his opening statement. He can't disconnect from his journey, which is why he's not turning, etc.

    Certainly that's just my read, and sure it came across differently to some. But I could kinda feel it.
    For sure. That came across well, but if the main point was going to be promoting the match, I'm not sure that will resonate and just will get lost in the shuffle.

    He turned simply for the choice in tie he wore, to me lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    For sure. That came across well, but if the main point was going to be promoting the match, I'm not sure that will resonate and just will get lost in the shuffle.

    He turned simply for the choice in tie he wore, to me lol.
    The match felt a little secondary to me, so I more thought that could get lost in the shuffle/drama surrounding Cody.




    And after seeing Cesaro rock the tie game a few months ago, everybody else is at least 2 levels down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    The match felt a little secondary to me, so I more thought that could get lost in the shuffle/drama surrounding Cody.

    And after seeing Cesaro rock the tie game a few months ago, everybody else is at least 2 levels down.
    He's Swiss. Cody never stood a chance.

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    Realistically, everyone else should have just went to open collar.

    They're just embarrassing themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    I actually felt like they hated him at first and he turned it around.
    Yeah, it definitely seemed like they were willing to give credit where it was due. Cody has his finger on the pulse of SM-fueled smark world of today (which is incredible).

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    big feather in moxley's cap. i hope they have a big program lined up for him.

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    He handled that heckler magnificently.

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    Also the Spears squash threw me yet still funny af.

    Wardlow’s expressions and MJF’s birthday wish. Great build.

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    Huge miss from the Gunn Club - wtf didn’t they do a 5 second pose with Christian after the beat down? Then it would’ve been a nice “statement made”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Also the Spears squash threw me yet still funny af.

    Wardlow’s expressions and MJF’s birthday wish. Great build.
    100%. Love me some Wardlow.

    Sting, my man. Love me some good old fashioned booking with Darby returning for the finish. And nobody could do it quite as explosively as Darby Allin.

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    Can’t quite find the video at the moment, but I saw a video on the twitters where Sting/Darby get it of their car to chant A E DUB with some fans in the car in front of them. That must have been so fun

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    I would watch a web series about the misadventures of Sting and Darby as they travel the road and encounter the world together.


    When the Grave Doesn't Sting: A Story of an Old Man, a Young Man, and Life's Greatest Lesson.

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    Seems weird that Rampage is Live in the same place they were two days ago. I wonder if there's a reason they didn't just tape Rampage then. TBS title is supposed to main event which seems like a weird choice unless something is going to happen.

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    Lio Rush done with AEW, contract expires February 14th.

    He's always got in his own way, I'm not surprised anymore.

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    He's always in a rush, that guy.

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    Rampage was a good show, the best in a while. Feels like the last few weeks of AEW TV has been a bit of a lull and aside from Bryan Danielson's brilliance my interest has gradually been waning since Full Gear. The fact that we've seen less of some of two of my favourites in Miro and Kingston is probably one reason why. But Mox's return has generated a fresh buzz and I'm hoping this is the start of the push towards Revolution. How much better does Moxley look by the way? Hell of a promo on Wednesday, there's a handful of interesting potential feuds for him waiting.

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    Aye the side by side before and after of Mox is insane, Good on him... And fuck Bully Ray.

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    Yeah, the Bully Ray thing is just such an eye rolling reminder how carny certain wrestlers continue to be. Bully's got a decent finger on the wrestling pulse, but he does look at things from inside that world still. He can't look at things from the perspective of a normal person on some occasions, the Mox story in Exhibit A.

    I can't imagine the courage it took Mox to seek help for his alcoholism. Alcohol is a mother fucker, and so for him to drop everything and enter rehab... that's real strength. Take the pro wrestling stuff out of the equation, Mox entering rehab and coming out looking better than ever deserves immense praise. But at no time would he or should he feel like he needs to apologize for anything. Bully's looking at Mox's story as something underneath the circus tent, which is why his opinion on saying Mox should have apologized is so bad. Apologize for what? Fixing himself? Oh, but think of the poor children that paid their hard earned money to see him... yeah, no regular person would look at it that way. Hence, the backlash Bully's seeing.

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    Ana and Jade exceeded my low expectations, especially considering they were in the main event spot for Rampage. They didn’t look out of sorts, but I think there was a case of cover you ass by having a heavy portion of the match in a commercial.

    Curious when we are going to see Hook on Dynamite.

    Takes some more actions, but Moxley/Danielson would be a money TNT Championship feud.

    I don’t know why they did this show live. I guess they wanted to see if it’d pop a different rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Lio Rush done with AEW, contract expires February 14th.

    He's always got in his own way, I'm not surprised anymore.
    I don't really rate Rush, he's never done anything that I've particularly found entertaining and think Martin is better off on his own until his brother gets back anyway but what type of contract did Rush have, like a 3 month contract or something, he's barely been in the company to make a deal of his contract expiring lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by chatty View Post
    I don't really rate Rush, he's never done anything that I've particularly found entertaining and think Martin is better off on his own until his brother gets back anyway but what type of contract did Rush have, like a 3 month contract or something, he's barely been in the company to make a deal of his contract expiring lol
    I think some of these cats sign a contract for X amount of dates. Wasn't he signed by AEW, retired, then came back, and is now leaving? Maybe they just never killed his OG contract.

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    I'm thinking he signed a 6 month contract and retired, only to come back because life is so very long. Nothing with that, I'm just expecting to see TAFKALR some day...

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    I think this is like the 3rd time in 3 years Lio has retired. He retired after he WWE, he's retired twice now since AEW's been a thing. Kid is weird as fuck. He has like 9 kids and no career........

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    I think his head is split between being an artist, which is demanding, and being an entertainer, which must be rewarding when you've got his particular skillset.

    I like that he was still doing indy shows (although i haven't seen any of that recently on IG) but a part of me wishes he had stayed in MLW as he was easily their biggest hope for a second.

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    He was at GCW last night and he's taking bookings. He's not retiring, yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    He was at GCW last night and he's taking bookings. He's not retiring, yet.
    Right on. My ADD is outta control at this point and I forget that information is totally accessible outside of IG.

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    Lio Rush, Austin Aries and Low Ki should form a stable: The Headaches

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    CM PUNK SPEAKS??? NO FUCKIN WAY!

    The optics of these advertisements piss me off considering how fucking cold and shitty it is but they're pretending like Cleveland is in Jamaica.

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    Looks riveting.

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    It looks whack lol. Even the pointless ladder match. It'll be a show I watch for the garbage spots and that's it. Oh and my boys 2.0 yayyyy because God knows they're ratings draw.

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    I forgot sarcasm is hard to detect in text form.

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    Wondering if we get Gargano helping OC or not.

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    That would be exciting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    CM PUNK SPEAKS??? NO FUCKIN WAY!

    The optics of these advertisements piss me off considering how fucking cold and shitty it is but they're pretending like Cleveland is in Jamaica.
    It's odd to have Beach Break in Cleveland. Makes no sense. Florida or California obviously works but even a place like South Carolina or Jersey works better than freaking Ohio.

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    Cleveland: We've got sandy beaches.
    Fans: SO WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO SEE THEM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Buzz: But they've got nude beaches...
    Rod: ...not in the winter.
    lol

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    "CM Punk Speaks." Whoopie, CM Punk speaks all the time. Lemme know when "CM Punk Dances" or "CM Punk Rides a Unicycle Across a Tightrope" and you might have something worth tuning into.

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    CM Punk pays tribute to John Cena?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    CM Punk pays homeage to John Cena?
    ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    ^
    Who wants that shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    Who wants that shit?
    No one in particular that I know, just maybe one person out there yeahh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    Who wants that shit?
    To be fair I witnessed CM Punk pay homage LIVE in front of my face at Full Gear when he did Cena's 5 moves of doom lol.

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    No Cody entrance means 10 extra minutes.

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    That leap frog cutter was insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    That leap frog cutter was insane.
    Honestly am just putting casualfan time into wrestling these days, but AEW has yet to disappoint. That move was what ladder matches are made for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    To be fair I witnessed CM Punk pay homage LIVE in front of my face at Full Gear when he did Cena's 5 moves of doom lol.
    Pretty sure that's an insult to all of Ohio or whatever nation you desmoinians claim to be a part of. Dissed by the Punker and a mocking Cenation from afar.

    But really, awesome that you got to see that fight.

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