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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Only if they're serving eggnog and wings.
    Which came first? The wings or the eggnog?

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    Until I hear otherwise, let's agree that Bert named his son HOOK, and while his wife was pushing, he was standing there yelling "SEND HOOK!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Until I hear otherwise, let's agree that Bert named his son HOOK, and while his wife was pushing, he was standing there yelling "SEND HOOK!"
    Unless Bert tells or sends us a video otherwise, I am otherwise satisfied that his childbirth went down like this!

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    Hook was born the same month Owen Hart died.

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    What are you implying Donald?

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    Corporate merger. The Owen Hook tournament!

    Celebrate two birds with one stone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    All caps when your write HOOK.
    HOOK vs. KENTA caps on the line

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    HOOK vs. KENTA caps on the line
    PUNK runs in to help HOOK spinning off to a GTS vs GTS match. SAMMY may or may not be included. I’ll go with not.

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    Yay KOR

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    I bet @mth is HOOKED now!

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    All the face paint is great.

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    Who (realistically) should Bryan get as judges?

    The guy who played Dr. Shelby?
    Brie's mom?

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    Ruby looked like she was legit in pain. I wondered how long her shoulders would hold up. Hopefully it's not serious.

    The break up of Cole and the Young Bucks is accelerating faster than I thought. I know they like to book things long term, but I give it a couple months tops before someone turns.

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    Kor in aew is about as exciting as a hook debut

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    So really fucking exciting is what you're saying.

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    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    We just left the theater and my son said "didn't OG Spiderman look like CM Punk 2021?"

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    I kind of go back and forth on KOR. There are times where I really like him and think he's by far the best and most interesting of the Undisputed Era guys. But then there's also times that he bores the shit out of me. Fish & O'Reilly work well together anyway. They'll be good to have around, I just don't particularly want to see them featured as one of the top acts.

    I feel like there have been a few times where there's a kid dressed as Orange Cassidy in the front row and he's either not seen them or just ignored them. He got a reaction for giving the kid a fist bump this week. He should definitely go over to them before the match a la Bret or Rey Mysterio.

    Danielson continues to knock absolutely everything he does out of the park. Page as champion isn't quite working for me yet but they're trying and he could still grow into the role. We'll see.

    Looking forward to these Owen Hart tournaments. Neat video with all the different wrestlers talking about him.

    Main event was a lot of fun. Loved the special face paint and how star studded it all felt. A proper TV main event and appropriate for the arena and city they were in. I'd like to see more multi-person tag matches on TV featuring alliances between AEW's bigger stars.

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    Matching Pinnacle trunks were neat as well.

    Also like the slow burn they’re continuing to do with Wardlow.

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    Since AEW does accept the past from other places as cannon, I'm curious to see how they navigate the fact the last time we saw Cole and KOR together, they were trying to kill each other.

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    They'll just say that it was a script and in AEW they don't have to follow a script.

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    Broke a million.

    .37 demo

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    Oh they're about to break a million tonight buddy.

    Man remember when companies could barely get a million views. Sting and CM Punk are proof they're the biggest draws in wrestling. When are we getting painted up CM Punk on Ringside????

    Now's the perfect time to have Syxx and The Outsiders show up for a 6-man and we finally get a match involving the GOATs of the last 30 years Nash and Punk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I bet @mth is HOOKED now!
    I did watch HOOK's debut. It was pretty good. Seems like he's got potential. Can he talk?

    As for KOR being in AEW. Enjoy, AEW fans. Wish the UE gang had all gone there a couple years sooner so they weren't clogging up the NXT spotlight for so long. Certainly not going to help get my eyes on their product. Will be curious, like BG said, to see if they acknowledge the Cole/KOR feud from WWE. if I had to guess, I'd say they'll say they "worked things out in the ring" and that the feud/matches were how they worked through and resolved their issues.

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    I don't understand why @mth hates good wrestlers.

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    @mth I'm with you dude and you know this....maaaaaaaaaaaaaan

    As a wrestling fan with no blind brand loyalty, I felt UE made NXT weak and look at Fish and Cole in AEW. Cole went from main eventing to getting kissed by Trumpers. Bobby Fish...well...he's always been pretty brittle so good luck on him lasting another week. Shocked he's made it 5 matches without blowing his ACL and collecting a check for another 12 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    I don't understand why @mth hates good wrestlers.
    Doesn't matter if you can kill it between the bells if you're the most bland-ass generic gang of internet darlings in the biz (and no, KOR becoming a cringe-fest hipster dweeb didn't help his case). Hopefully Roddy follows his boys over soon.

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    Bucks are Trumpers? No wonder they're so awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    Doesn't matter if you can kill it between the bells if you're the most bland-ass generic gang of internet darlings in the biz (and no, KOR becoming a cringe-fest hipster dweeb didn't help his case). Hopefully Roddy follows his boys over soon.
    I'm given to believe he resigned this year. Not that it really matters these days

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    On the plus side as it pertains to Roddy, I like everyone else in Diamond Mine so that helps.

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    Bivens is good on the mic. I like the Creed Bros and Ivy. I forget the other dude’s name and still don’t know what the point of him is.
    Last edited by Badger; December 24th, 2021 at 5:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    On the plus side as it pertains to Roddy, I like everyone else in Diamond Mine so that helps.
    This is what I mean: you prefer green dudes who barely can wrestle, creed bros, over dudes who can put on clinics, ue, it makes no sense.

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    Fish: boring
    KOR: disappointing
    Cole: fuck off

    Fish, KOR and Cole tho… that’s the pumpkin pie with extra whipped cream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Bigness is good on the mic. I like the Creed Bros and Ivy. I forget the other dude’s name and still don’t know what the point of him is.
    Yeah, Hachiman is still a mystery to me. Unless he's legit coaching off camera, i do not understand why they pay him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    This is what I mean: you prefer green dudes who barely can wrestle, creed bros, over dudes who can put on clinics, ue, it makes no sense.
    I dig Creed Bros.'s style and I like seeing what new fresh folks have to offer. As far as UE clinics go, I refer back to my previous post. Clinics are boring if I don't give a damn about those putting them on and UE never did anything to make me invested in them as characters and then they went on to overstay their welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Bigness is good on the mic. I like the Creed Bros and Ivy. I forget the other dude’s name and still don’t know what the point of him is.
    Roderick Strong?

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    Am I in a nxt thread or aew

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    It’s an NXT invasion.

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    Hoping for Gargano next

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyski View Post
    Hoping for Gargano next
    Cleveland show at the end of January.

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    I could go for a proper invasion angle.


    You know TK's ego is going to demand he gets a heel run.

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    I have a sneaky suspicion my wife got me tickets for the Bridgeport show.

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    didn't realize rampage was on at 9 tonight until halfway through the show. missed the hook match

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    didn't realize rampage was on at 9 tonight until halfway through the show. missed the hook match
    https://waaw.to/f/mwYiOBwaraBQ

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    Hook still looked nice in his second match. The no-sell of the spiked driver was less than ideal but the crowd was all about it. I do think the embracing of Tommy Conlon from Warrior fits his aesthetic. If you haven’t seen that movie, you should. It’s quite good. Anyway, like Conlon, Hook just gets his business done and then walks right to the back. I dig it.

    Cody just spammed the hell out of Guevara there at the end lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    it's unreal how fucking good everything he does looks. genuine prodigy.

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    Just need Cody to unbreak that “never change for the AEW title ever again rule” and double champ!

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    Hook no selling the driver tho… wtf.

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    HOOK is going to be a STAR!

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    After watching this weekend, I hope that one of the vets is prepping HOOK for the inevitable backlash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Hook no selling the driver tho… wtf.
    https://twitter.com/andrescmz/status...5qQoHos0Q&s=19

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    I didn’t know Bear Bronson is Jerry Lawler’s son, that’s so cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    I didnít know Bear Bronson is Jerry Lawlerís son, thatís so cool.
    Why would that be necessary? Punk and Darby did the whole 123 kid/Bret sequence for their match and neither are related.

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    Hook reminds me of a poor Pete Dunne tbh.

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    One of the best parts about AEW is that they are heavy with the nostalgia. Like Bert mentioned, the Punk/Darby match using the Bret/123 Kid sequence or this more recent attempt at a callback to 20 years ago with the Taz-JR-Lawler angle. Every week I get reminded me of something from my late teens/early 20's.

    Hook should get chokeslammed by Luchasaurus next week and just pop right up. I'd say Big Show but it's bad enough we had to believe John Silver could be competitive against Danielson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    One of the best parts about AEW is that they are heavy with the nostalgia. Like Bert mentioned, the Punk/Darby match using the Bret/123 Kid sequence or this more recent attempt at a callback to 20 years ago with the Taz-JR-Lawler angle. Every week I get reminded me of something from my late teens/early 20's.

    Hook should get chokeslammed by Luchasaurus next week and just pop right up. I'd say Big Show but it's bad enough we had to believe John Silver could be competitive against Danielson.
    What's wrong with looking competitive though? Silver got in some moves, but never did it seem like he stood a chance against Danielson. Bryan beat the crap out of him mostly through a commercial break and didn't even lose his man bun once the match was over.

    As for Hook, I really really hope he's not booked like Goldberg or something. I like the dude, but if no selling becomes his thing then eh... I'm going to walk the plank with the guy real quick.

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    What's wrong with looking competitive though? Silver got in some moves, but never did it seem like he stood a chance against Danielson. Bryan beat the crap out of him mostly through a commercial break and didn't even lose his man bun once the match was over.

    As for Hook, I really really hope he's not booked like Goldberg or something. I like the dude, but if no selling becomes his thing then eh... I'm going to walk the plank with the guy real quick.
    What's wrong with Silver looking competitive or just looking competitive in general? Well, look at your comments about Hook. That's why. You start saying stupid shit and then follow it up with your answer.

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    Meh meh meh, be a grouchy goose then.

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    I'm ditching my Hook hyperbole and now looking forward to the inevitable IWC disowning.

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    I will always love HOOK.

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    Captain... that... is the point!

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    This Hook hype seems to be real. I watched a bit of his match on YouTube. Was impressed at his work. Not bad for a inexperienced kid. Is he any good on the stick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuveLeo View Post
    This Hook hype seems to be real. I watched a bit of his match on YouTube. Was impressed at his work. Not bad for a inexperienced kid. Is he any good on the stick?
    Phenomenal. Just like his dad.

    What I want to know is, can he fight or is he bitch made like his pops? Everyone in the business knows Taz was a fake tough guy that's why he was careless in the ring because he had to make up for it being 5'3" and only tough in judo in the 80's.

    Or showing his dick at the tanning salon to teens.

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    Nash I know is being sarcastic about his AEW praise. I think Bert too. No way anyone really enjoys this. Only thing that is interesting in AEW is that Abadon. But I think she only wrestles on YouTube.

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    Hook is like watching NXT 2.0 to me. I'm really not sold on the kid, but he's new'ish so I'll give it time. I may regret it, but at least I'll wait patiently and hope he develops.

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    He's possibly (probably) underqualified to be on Rampage but he's clearly got a following, so he could potentially be "overqualified" to be on Dark. He serves a better purpose to be on Rampage.

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    Hook is still one of the guys to watch for me. Definitely out of the bunch of fodder they have, he's towering over the rest.

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    He'd be more impressive if he didn't look like he'd blow away on a windy day.

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    I accept Bert's statement that he will always love HoOk. And more power to him for enjoying what he wants to.


    For the rest of the IWC, it will follow a pattern we've all seen before.

    1.Tongue in cheek statements.

    2k The person shows competence, people enjoy it and get excited.

    3. The excitement gets beyond what is earned.
    -Here's where I'm sure some will disagree with me. hoOK has some entertaining points to his matches. Definitely good for a beginner. And he has a character. All positives. He's still not produced any match beyond what I can see on any given episode of 205 live. His build is not great. He has had no real feuds, and no memorable mic work. His level of contribution does not merit being a top pop or merchandise mover.

    4. The counter movement starts in opposition to the popular sentiment.

    5. The counter opinion becomes the dominant opinion (not universal, but dominant).



    We've all seen this before, and know how the movie goes.

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    The one thing about some of the AEW hardcores is that they will try to prove all of that wrong. They'll try to go against the norm and be accepting of things that usually wouldn't be for an extended period of time.

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    They've just had now had the tenure to start forming their own counter-culture vs. their existence being the counter-culture.


    If I'm wrong....well, honestly I probably won't care that much....but I will be moderately surprised. And you can bring it up at random times.




    Like I bring up your Peyton Royce predictions.

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    Not a biggy, but I wish Moriarty went over Spears on Dark. Lee is super bankable as an up and comer.

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    Gotta build Spears up to take the first part of the Wardlow feud, I reckon.

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    Oh yeah, that. Eh... yeah, I suppose so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    They've just had now had the tenure to start forming their own counter-culture vs. their existence being the counter-culture.


    If I'm wrong....well, honestly I probably won't care that much....but I will be moderately surprised. And you can bring it up at random times.




    Like I bring up your Peyton Royce predictions.
    Peyton Royce-first ever WWE and Impact Women's tag-team champion.

    In regards to the first part of your post I agree and we're already seeing it. Some fans are coming to AEW shows acting like there's a substitute lol. Think about...Fuck the Jim Cornette inspired signs that we're seeing more and more of, how about signs like "I Love Twinks" or "Nyla Rose Is That Guy's Dad" ?

    I love watching AEW but I have no real desire to be part of that fanbase. The nice thing is more and more fans are becoming more subjective with what they're going out of their way to praise. The same people who go and shit on a WWE fans for their blind allegiance will excuse every negative from Jacksonville Dixie and his band of live action Jakks figures.

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    Jim's thoughts on HOOK second match.


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    @Bert what'd you think of Greensboro? I saw you on camera.

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    As if I have enough sleep to drive that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    As if I have enough sleep to drive that far.
    As if driving is the only means to NC.......

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    Greensboro is a couple of hours away from me. Still wouldn't go to an AEW show.

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    I enjoy AEW shows.


    But I am also a fan of Anti-AEW Donald.


    SO MANY COMPLEX EMOTIONS.

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    Also....

    I like MJF. I'm enjoying Wardlow. And I'm generally positive to Sean Spears.


    But I am not looking forward to Wardlow/Spears, and am surprisingly ambivalent to the eventual Wardlow/MJF.


    Hope to be wrong.

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    Spear is terrible. And he's married to Peyton Royce....How? The guy is old enough to be her dad.

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    I guess 10 wasn't just a nickname.


    HEY OH

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    What a daft name, Shawn Spears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Spear is terrible. And he's married to Peyton Royce....How? The guy is old enough to be her dad.


    He's 11 years older than her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post


    He's 11 years older than her.
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...tBxaDeWcnlg4md

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    As if driving is the only means to NC.......
    Good luck getting a flight right now.

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    That's a nice chair spears has tonight.

    Classy looking

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    Nice to see an addition to the women's roster. I thought she signed to Impact.

    I was surprised Jade won but I guess Rosa will be going for the bigger title so it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    And I'm generally positive to Sean Spears.
    get out

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    All you 2016 nxt fans turn your backs so quickly.

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    my back was always turned. like his has always been turned on charisma

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    he's good in his role right now, which is essentially to make you commiserate with wardlow over how annoying it is that he's always hanging around. i also appreciate how much he leans into the stupid chair gimmick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post


    He's 11 years older than her.
    I'm well aware smart guy.

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    Looks like Mercedes Martinez is officially in AEW now.
    Last edited by BGMaverick; December 30th, 2021 at 12:49 PM.

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