The Steelers are in the shit. Two massive games against the Saints and Patriots, likely have to win one of them to make the playoffs. Crazy.
The Steelers are in the shit. Two massive games against the Saints and Patriots, likely have to win one of them to make the playoffs. Crazy.
Got 2 of the 3 actually right, and the Chiefs survived in OT.
oh boyOriginally Posted by PurePlayer
Have a day Amari
Congrats on the regular season win. Cooper had that game against practice squad guys and someone with a hamstring injury btw
As much as I love bringing up that quote obvously I wasn't happy with the trade when it happened either to be fair
So happy to be wrong! What a player. Crazy game, and a huge win. A Dallas win or Eagles loss clinches the division.
See you next year buddy, enjoy the draft
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Just really not sure why the Eagles didn't ADJUST?
Love it. Nice statement win for Chicago.
Good on the Chargers for having the second-best record in the AFC...only to be the fifth seed, haha.
I would say the same to you but you won't have a first round pick after a playoff exit
See you next year buddy, enjoy the draft
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haha only 7 defensive starters were out including their top 2 corners with their 3rd corner having a hamstring injury mid game. Eagles did adjust last year when they won a super bowl though.
Steelers definitely have to be worried now about all scenarios now. I think I realized why I know I don't trust them as a contender: structure on offense. Yeah, they've got a ton of talent but they often fall in love way too much with passing. Look at Conner's rush totals with the Broncos game, for example. They, the Broncos, are a relatively pedestrian rush defense. Tomlin and everyone got scared about the edge rush and just used Conner to chip. How about you don't pass the ball 56 times and run more? It's an entitled offense with a quarterback who can make some pretty dumb throws.
It hasnt been as pronounced this year but Road Ben is no where near as good as Home Ben. Way too many turnovers.
Eagles players on IR
Derek Barnett
Rodney McLeod
Ronald Darby
Jalen Mills
Jay Ajayi
Mike Wallace
Mack Hollins
Corey Clement
Josh Sweat
Not to mention Tim Jernigan only played 1 game this year, Jordan Hicks missed the last 3, Darren Sproles missed close to 10 games and Sidney Jones has been in and out of the lineup.
What's your point?
Based on your argument last year quoted mere days ago using injuries as an excuse isn't valid. You said teams should be able to adjust, or plan sufficiently for injuries, scheme to cover injuries, and use resources effectively (maybe like don't spend a 3rd rounder on a WR who doesn't fit into your offense when your secondary has no depth). I didn't agree, but fair enough, your argument wasn't invalid.
However now you it's obvious you just said this because it suited your narrative of oh look the Eagles are great and the Cowboys are bad at the time. Every team has injuries, you said it yourself.
Now it's flipped and you are the one pointing out all the injuries the Eagles have. So bringing it up twice in a matter of days after a season ending loss is pretty embarrassing and totally shits on everything you argued against previously.
how are you this lame. pretty sure torn would agree that injuries have fucked up the eagles quite a bit this year, so you continuing to bring them up like he's arguing against them is dumb. he's throwing your ass homerism logic back onto itself to laugh at how transparent you are.
our secondary has been trash all year, well before losing darby and mills. we didnt adjust then and its even harder to adjust now. i was skeptical of the trade for tate from the start given our defensive issues and its been a shitshow. 189yds and 1 touchdown in five games. he hasn't made the offense better one bit. cooper has 642yds and 6 touchdowns in 6 games, helping dallas to a five game win streak where they shut down the saints. already penciling in a playoff exit is asinine. a first rounder for him may feel high but the impact he has had is undeniable. nobody expected a nick foles led eagles team to end the season beating the Patriots in the super bowl when wentz went down. don't be one of those fucking idiot philly fans that stops me from listening to WIP after one fan call.
God if Miami ever wins a Super Bowl in my lifetime I wouldn't care if they Browns it up for the next decade.
i wouldnt go that far, jesus pabs, but yeah, i get ya. this season has been frustrating as hell but im riding that super bowl wave for at least a year. despite wentz' play last year and the super bowl win, we are still only three years into building a team around our franchise guy. and that guy went down with a big injury, and despite his denials, he clearly hasnt gotten back to 100% mentally and possibly physically. we lost key depth, have key injuries. roseman took the 'win now' approach because we are defending champions, even though i dont think we've ever been in a strong position of true confidence the whole season, when i think he probably shouldve saved some assets to continue roster building through the draft.
By the way anyone who thought that Mahomes no look pass bullshit was impressive just remember Blake Bortles tried it first in the world famous Rajah Madden League @Mikey_Jones
Nah I get it. TFC has been absolutely dominant for the past two seasons winning basically everything last year and this year shat the bed. I was definitely grumbling and complaining how they were playing like shit.
I know if the Dolphins or Raps or Jays or Leafs every win their championship I will start complaining 3/4 of the way through the next season if they weren't as good. Well maybe not the Leafs since I wouldn't care enough.
The initial point about buying time for at least a year based off the SB win is certainly a point I can get behind. I have no interest in the Eagles but I would think that's a fan base that can at least enjoy what happened and look at that when getting frustrated with how this season has gone.
Tate still seems like a player that's worth having. From someone totally on the outside, it seems like Reich's departure has been a major disadvantage for that team. Injuries are obviously a crippling aspect, but that loss feels like it was one of significant impact.
I only brought it up again because two more guys got placed on IR after I made the first post. Yes all teams have injuries and some deal with them when they are manageable.
Could the Eagles have adjusted this year? Sure they could've by not leaving their backup corner on an island against Cooper when it's tied 16-16 but not give up a 4th and 15 to the titans in OT. All that could have been avoided regardless of injuries.
edit: At the end of the day, It really shows how good the Patriots have been in the last 15 years. They always come back and make the playoffs no matter what coaches leave, how many super bowls they win, or how many injuries they have (Gronk, OL, etc)
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Thinking about starting Damien Williams tonight if Ware sits. I also have Kamara, David Johnson, and Aaron Jones. Jones I won't be playing against the Bears, so it's basically trying to figure out if I start Williams or Johnson.
It will be crazy if the Chargers somehow pull out the win tonight and still put immense pressure on the Chiefs to finish out the last two weeks. If they do that, a hell of a team is going to be the 5th seed.
Despite the weak Arizona offense they are facing a weak and battered Atlanta defense
Anyone watch 'A Football Life' on Thurman Thomas yesterday? I had forgotten how incredible he was. He would be so lethal in the modern NFL. Definitely translates better than Emmitt or Barry to today's game.
Thurman was great no question about it. The biggest thing that kills his legacy is that 3 of his 4 Super Bowls he was in he played awful with 37 carries for 69 yards (less than 2 ypc in SB 26-28) though he was fantastic in Super Bowl XXV against the Giants.
His last years in the league were forgettable too, he only had like 1300 yards total his last 4 years in the league.
he was a great player, but was an enormous shithead in buffalo up until his campaign for the HOF started
How was he a shithead? Sincerely, as I don't recall ever really hearing much as on outsider about his behavior/character negatively.
Thurman Thomas Sr. works at my job. He's a cool guy.
was always a dickhead at fan events, training camp and the like. andre reed, jim kelly, bruce smith and the like would always be down to give an autograph, the thurmanator would always ask for money. i even remember a reported incident of him punching a fan. (i obviously tried to look this up, so we can take that with a grain of salt)
plus, he was barely around buffalo at all after his career until he could cash in on his name with the HOF and jersey retirement
This guy is a footballer
What a shit display this week. Dak terrible, the defense barely looks arsed when making tackles.
He's outstanding, gonna be a steal for them
Torn, Beefy and my own Dolphins really letting me down this week.
I had just started to believe.
Not that there was really anything to believe about this team. Lucking out the majority of the wins despite the injuries. But even without the injuries this team was questionable. With them, no chance.
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My bad
Dolphins are something like 1-10 in their last 11 road games.
That doesn't seem like a good away record.
Been a fun season.
hoping they can stick in the three spot unless something really wild happens and they get a bye.
Would love the chance to beat Minnesota in back to back weeks.
Kenyan Drake wins the game for the Dolphins last week, and follows that up by basically being an after-thought to Ballage and Gore. I don't understand why the Dolphins fail to utilize this guys talents. If he leaves next year, and signs with another team, he will be a stud.
Seems like a pretty simple case of Drake being banged up, and wanting to see what Ballage had.
The real crazy part is that Gore was out from the 2nd Q on.
Drake was being used more as a receiving back though so he wasn't completely neglected.
There's a lot of speedy, talented skill players on the Dolphins with a bunch of them injured unfortunately but there is some exciting talent there.
Things are going to be interesting in the offseason as both O and D lines are going to need a lot of work.
I didn’t get sucked in after last week honest, fuck off Miami Dolphins.
@Pablo Diablo I feel your pain bring a Dolphins fan but fuck me moving onto Football, that’s the worst United team I’ve personally seen come to Anfield.
Yeah, today was not a great day for me sports wise with the Raps losing tonight as well. Just bad all around.
How shit was that last drive by the Panthers.
Cam Newton is garbage.
He's clearly hurt but he's also got some pretty shoddy mechanics as a passer.
Edit: This playoff picture is wide open. Nobody looks unbeatable right now.
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I think it's one of the best playoff fields in a while. Nobody looking unbeatable but still having a ton of good/exciting contenders...
fingers crossed for no major injuries the next two weeks.
It's crazy you can make a "yeah, but" argument for every team that would be in the playoffs if they started today. It's there for the taking, and someone just needs to get hot and stay healthy.
I just find it hard to believe any team will go into New Orleans and win in January. It obviously is a week to week league but the Saints have been playing on the road the last 3 weeks. I think the way they play with Pitt at home will be very telling as to how they will look in the playoffs.
Bears defense is very good but I don't think they will look as good away from home and indoors.
I wouldn't say the Steelers are the ideal barometer because they're so incredibly hit or miss and will possibly be dealing with a rotation to their running back core, but I get your point about the homefield advantage for the Saints.
The Rams defense has been a mess lately, but it's hard to dispute that the Cowboys, Vikings, Seahawks, and Bears have game plans that could work against the Saints that could be problematic.
The Bears should be favourites I think. The defences are starting to shut down these high powered offences. Having to run through the Wildcard round is tough though. Chiefs vs. Bears Super Bowl for me. Panthers winning last night would have opened it all up.
Steelers vs. Saints, Ravens vs. Chargers, Eagles vs. Texans, Redskins vs. Titans and Chiefs vs. Seahawks are awesome games this weekend. Not necessarily must win for the Saints (though they wrap up top seed with a win), but the others seasons change drastically with a loss. Texans need to win out for a bye you'd think, with Pats having the H2H advantage. Chiefs and Chargers need to win out to lock up 1st instead of 5th. Eagles need to win out. Steelers and Ravens need to both for the division and the wild card spot if the Colts and Titans win this week. Seahawks should be alright with a loss considering they should win their last game, and other games could conspire in their favour this weekend, but they'll want it done. You'd be a little worried if you're a Vikings fan too - haven't won on the road since October, facing a divisional rival. Then home to the Bears who will still have a first round bye in play with a win this weekend.
Always been trash. And if you are that hurt that you cannot throw the ball 10 yards down field get off the field, you are not helping your team.
He was extremely good in the Super Bowl year.
I mean how can you make the statement that a guy who won an MVP has always been trash. Have to call you out on that.
He has been awful lately though, not arguing that.
His mechanics were always poor. Completion percentage below 60% for a career. Flashed in 2015 when his defense was amazing and he ran more than he previously had. 3 winning seasons in 8 years.
Trash.
Outside of McCaffrey, what exactly has he had offensively for the last couple of seasons? Olsen has been a shell of himself for the last two seasons.
He's had an under 60% completion percentage for his career. This year he is at 67% which is 7% better than he has ever had.
Last year he was 28th in completion percentage. The year before 30th. And before that 28, 28, 29.
I know that is not the be all end all but its not like he is pushing the ball way down field either.
I agree. Played out of his head for one anomalous season, but nonetheless is and always has been trash.
Well he's being shut down for the rest of the season. So I hope you meanies are happy.
Hmph.
If they hadn't made the one Super Bowl with him, he would be classic Ewing Theory potential. I could easily see them improving if they designed the offensive around McCaffrey and Samuel and a dominant O-line instead of Cam's inaccurate throwsWell he's being shut down for the rest of the season. So I hope you meanies are happy.
Hmph.
I could easily see them sucking every year without a franchise quarterback
Josh Gordon left NE, gonna be suspended again it looks like
not ideal. it will be shocking when the pats win the super bowl which is crazy to say for a team that is still a dynasty.
edelman/gronk/hogan/dorsett/patterson... there was a time when Edelman and Gronk was all you needed but with Gronk's decline that is no longer the case. this isn't a great receiving group. gotta work sony michel and the play action to get it moving. james white on the screens/check downs. it can work.
I can't imagine this is THAT big of a loss. I mean, it's not like he was taking the top off and gashing opposing defenses deep. Don't get me wrong, it's not great to lose a player this late in the scope of things but I imagine it would be crippling if it were Edelman, Gronk, or White. It's going to make them be that much more efficient and avoid the brain lapses they've been having the last two weeks.
Lads do I start goff or luck for fantasy
Can't start Luck now. So Goff
Fuck, IDeshaun Watson.
I fear Deshaun Watson.
Side note. How fucked is it that the Texans actually have to win next week to win the AFC south?
They have easily been the most consistently good team in the division. Just throw away those first three weeks.
As talented as they are, the Steelers almost deserve to stay on the outside of the playoff picture. They're way too talented to lose their last three games by a total of nine points (and their Jaguars win was one they should have lost). That division is going to be pretty crazy for the next few years, too. Baker looks like the real deal.
Me too! Kid is special.Fuck, I
Remember when they started slow and everybody went off the top saying they were done.
Good times.
It will be very interesting if the Eagles can make it back into the playoffs to see what Nick Foles and company can do.
Still might not win their division though
Let’s go Jaguars.
Some good, relevant games to close the regular season then. Love how there's a straight knockout game in Titans/Colts. That's going to be tense. Unfortunately you've got to favour Indy with Luck's record, but 6-1 at home thus far for Tennessee is legit. With how flakey the AFC is this year, the winner can somehowend up in the Superbowl too. That bracket is wide open, whereas I think the top 3 in the NFC are out in front.
Love the Eagles narrative too. Foles sprung into action and delivering again. Now in need of help, but it's dependent on the Bears beating the Vikings. The only playoff contender the Vikings have beat all season are Philly themselves. Bears have a chance of a bye with a win. Then you've got the Steelers also in need of favour, but from one of the league's form teams in the Browns. Throw in the Chiefs and Chargers needing to win to avoid 5th seed and you've got an excellent day.
Browns/Ravens should be an interesting game. The Browns have had a chip on their shoulder since Jackson was let go, and the Ravens have zigged offensively while the rest of the league has zagged. Both of these teams are very fascinating in a variety of ways.
I have no idea how the Titans are supposed to win this game.
No goddamn idea.
Not one.
This is gonna leave a mark.
Ryan Tannehill in the first quarter today: 2 completions. 2 interceptions.
Adam Gase, Ryan Tannehill, Matt Burke making the job of the decision makers pretty easy. Get them all the fuck out of here.
It's for the best at this point. Need a new QB and new coaches.
o please o please may O'Brien not get this kid killed..
interesting how the AFCS is shaking out, with tonight being a playoff game between Colts and Titans, and the winner going on to face the Texans in the wild card round. Mariota is not expected to play tonight so it'll be Gabbert vs Luck. Gotta figure the Colts will win that one.
Gase may be the next head coach in Green Bay.
Pat Fitzgerald is another name I've heard
This Packer game is horrendous.
Lemar Jackson is absurd.
I love this offense. What a smack in the face to the rest of the NFL.
He really is absurd.
And that offense really is fun to watch.
And what's the over/under on how long it lasts?
To the championship game? Rivers has tapered off the last couple of weeks and the Chargers have had injuries. That game last week as well. Then, I fancy the Colts to beat the Titans and Texans. Thus, Ravens at Pats which I favour them in. Chiefs I think get to the Super Bowl.
Was speaking more toward longer-term sustainability..
If Jackson doesn’t learn accuracy it won’t last long. He also needs to avoid all those unnecessary hits he takes.
I agree wholeheartedly with the latter. His expiration will be very quickly expedited otherwise.
But qbs at the pro level don't simply 'learn' accuracy.
That not to say his accuracy can't see some improvement, perhaps a minor bump in percentage merely in the game 'slowing down' and his reads/progressions becoming easier, but accuracy by and large is a pretty settled issue by the time a qb enters the league.
Full reset yet again though.
so this is the slate for next week barring something miraculous happening in the next 15 minutes.
6. Eagles at 3. Bears
5. Seahawks at 4. Cowboys
6. IND/TEN at 3. Texans
5. Chargers at 4. Ravens
Rematches in the AFC and some interesting match ups in the NFC
Should be a good slate of games
browns say hol up
I love Baker. Proper mad cunt.
This is incredible
yea this is some epic drama with mayfield trying to play spoiler. steelers fans and players all watching from the field in pittsburgh.
go browns!
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