This is not looking good for 205 live.
Aries quits
Neville leaves
Swann suspended
Kendrick injured
Now the champ is suspended too
All in a span of a year
Might be time to pull the plug on this show
Keep the division, maybe put them back on smackdown and make the show longer. They travel together anyway.
But their live show is a huge success with those 900 people, doncha know?
the only person whose able to save 205 is noam..
and he's injured as well
Quick span of the twitter and it seems like she's got a history of bullshitting, plus his name's Eric Arndt not Arden.
People shiteing all over 205 and dont watch it...
....add Cien, Gargano, Ciampa, Strong and Ricochet?
I see she named ASAP Mob associate Tyler Grosso and some Instagram model called TOOPOOR as accomplices. Looking at their social media they're obviously all good friends, I didn't know Enzo was involved in that whole scene. Here's a video from a party featuring Post Malone, Tyler and Enzo: https://twitter.com/ShiteBeard/statu...17220313747456 They were all tight with Lil Peep who overdosed a couple of months back too.
These lads all look like such trashy cunts.
Enzo looks like a Jersey Shore guido had a baby with one of the fucking Muppets.
No wonder why he needs to get all rapey. A motherfucker who looks like the mouse from Chuck E. Cheese got caught in an explosion at Wayne Newton's garage sale and dressed himself in whatever clothes were left behind probably can't get any pussy without the Bill Cosby special.
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Her having a history of apparent mental health issues is not a reason to believe this has been made up. The correlation goes both ways - yes, her not being of stable mind may lead to her saying things that are incorrect, but that it also makes her more susceptible to being manipulated and used by scumbags. I think in these cases it's best not to assume, and let the law find the facts and prosecute accordingly.
Wrestling fans are so odd. Either a young woman has been violated and will live with that for the rest of her life; or a young man has been wrongly accused of a crime so horrific that it will likely stain him for the rest of his life too. Who cares about what happens to 205 Live?
I wonder who put the pressure on 'sports' to have a 'zero tolerance' policy when it comes to 'domestic violence', sexual crimes (or the mere accusation of such)
I certainly do not recall any women's groups raising a fuss about it to start the ball rolling.
Seems like self-emasculation to me. Not that .I am defending (or convicting either) .Enzo who by all accounts comes off as a total arrogant fool capable of anything.
Sounds like a policy designed to avoid bad press and pressure from sponsors.
Sounds like a policy designed to avoid a share price plummet.
Sounds like an incredibly sensible policy to cover your ass.
This is sad news though. We will find out more I suppose.
Fucking hell, those are some grim allegations.
It was cringe worthy to hear Enzo rattle on about being a "Certified G" and "Bona fide stud" but now it just seems completely inappropriate if looked upon a certain way.
He's been released.
Agree. And now he is gone.Originally Posted by Jarrod1983
EDIT. Sigh. This news upsets me, but... I'm going to wait for more details to come out before I solidify my opinion. There have been stories in the past where someone was accused of rape, people lynched them, but there were no facts behind the accusations. After reading the alleged victim's story, I've since chosen to take a step back.
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I say, have a Fatal 4-Way Elimination match tonight with the winner meeting Cedric at the Rumble.
Metalik vs. Gulak vs. Hideo vs. Ricochet???
Ricochet vs Cedric on a big stage for the title might be the jolt that 205 Live needs.
That was quick.
Seems like a lynching before the facts are in..
Meanwhile Reigns can get himself in another ped mess and not a word from the hypocrites above.
cause possibly using steroids is totally on par with possibly raping somebody. right.
That was fast.
Sounds like they’re pretty sure there’s at least some truth to the story for them to have been so decisive, either that or (as seems the case) he’s such a twat they were looking for an alternative cause.
On the other side of the coin I wonder if this makes any difference regarding Neville.
Dude seems like he lived his gimmick to the extreme. Or maybe that's how he always was and his real life became part of his gimmick.
I'd rather see the entire roster inject PEDs in the middle of the ring than know that one alleged rapist was still employed there. And if he's found not guilty then they can bring him back if they want to. Although this seems like maybe they know more about the situation than we do if they acted this quickly.
This is a Bad Take.
Hella lame. I hope the accuser is arrested for filing a false police report, and Enzo sues her for everything she has.
They reacted like a lot of companies and such are reacting.
As they should.
The realest guy in the room just got evicted.
Not telling the company and having them find out through the media probably did him in. They'd have gotten him off TV and controlled the story if they had known, but apparently he didn't tell them about the investigation. And then it became public in at an absolutely terrible time and while he was still champion.
From what I understand WWE just found out about the allegations too which can’t look good for him.
Edit: What Law said
Good riddance.
The statement is just "WWE has come to terms on the release of Eric Arndt (Enzo Amore)."
They do not wish him the best in his future endeavors.
I can't wait for the RETURN OF THE KING!
Haha, because "WWE has come to terms on the release of Eric Arndt and wish him the best on his upcoming rape trial and possible prison time" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
I don't get why everyone thinks Neville is coming back because of this. Wasn't Enzo beating him just a symptom of the overall problem he saw with his WWE career?
Probably... and he might not come back...
But if Triple H calls him and offers him a substantial amount of money and promises him a good angle/feud.. why not...
The King Vs The Beast - WM34 to Unify the CW and Universal Title!
Is Neville even gone?
Off TV, yes. He's still under contract but the rumor is that he's just sitting it out until it expires.
He is still under contract. Report I read said the two sides can't come to an agreement and instead of granting his release they are keeping him until his contract runs out and then he has a 90 day no compete so the odds of seeing him wrestle this year are slim to none.
Neville was my favorite non-Braun wrestler. I hope he comes back!
Something had to have gone down if it escalated from a suspension to a release so quickly. I'd think a suspension would be sufficient if the WWE were merely covering their asses.
It makes sense if he really didn't let WWE in on the situation. If they had no time to prepare then they are probably all kinds of pissed the fuck off.
He had already been in the dog house multiple times with wwe so I am sure him not telling them about something so serious was just the final straw. After All, have an image to protect and going head and releasing him now will just work in their favor in the long run.
The most interesting scenario is what could happen if he is ultimately found innocent.
No doubt we'll know more over the coming days, but Law's logic makes sense.
Really disappointed as I liked Enzo on 205 Live, but going back to what Fanny Batter said earlier, one of the parties are going to be really scarred by this no matter what the outcome is and that's the bigger issue.
Also... didn't all that stuff with Slater happen waaay before Weinstein/#metoo/#timesup/etc.?
No company wants to be affiliated with the stench of a sexual assault case anymore. Especially when the suspect is already a marginal employee. It's such a lightning rod for negative PR that you simply cut all ties and be done with it.
Yes to all that. That's kind of what I was implying when I mentioned Slater. Slater was suspended, taken off tv, seemed like he was on his way out but then it all went away. With Enzo, it's the Hulk Hogan sextape situation. Only they had actual proof of Hogan's actions where we're literally going off the tweet of someone who admits they were on meth, coke, and weed during whatever happened. And like dude said, he gets cleared, he'll probably be back but you never know.
Has Enzo been officially charged? Meltzer just said that there's a Police Report, but no charges have been brought against him.
He hasn't been charged. Investigation is ongoing and has been since October.
I can understand Enzo being released if he was charged, but being let go based on an accusation is extreme. I guess it was the last straw for him.
If he's already a headache to some in the back, it's very easy to assume any kind of bad press in regards to him isn't going to help his cause.
I have to agree with others. He was probably released because it looks like he didn't tell the WWE that he was under investigation and they found out yesterday when the woman came out yesterday. I bet had they had known they would have pulled him off tv sooner and waited to see what came out of it.
The fact that she admits she was on all those drugs when it happened lends more credence to her claim, in my opinion. She's laying it all out on the table instead of only telling the parts that make Enzo look bad.
Remember the girl on Twitter who roasted enzo for being cheap? If half of what she said is true then it's pretty safe to say Enzo just looks at girls like meat. Calling them whites, objectifying body parts, etc. This is definitely not to far fetched. I wonder if enzo really sees himself as a g? If so, he will probably make this personal.
More credence? I think it brings into question just how good her memory of that night is. Someone on meth, coke, and weed wakes up the next day saying you raped them...?
Eh, nothing that was said about that situation made me think Enzo was anything but a guy who has a little celebrity (or a lot depending on the person) and flexing that status. Enzo is not the only dude out there treating strippers like shit.
I would think someone trying to lay claim to a serious charge against a celebrity would avoid talking about their drug habits when it would just make them look worse. The only person who has something to gain from talking about their drug use is someone who's being honest. To me it just seems like there's been more evidence of Enzo being a general piece of shit as opposed to this lady having a reason to lie about it. Not to mention it makes a lot of sense that a sexual assailant would choose someone who's addicted to hard drugs to take advantage of.
And to use her being on drugs as reasoning to claim her statements as false is to dismiss the claims of anyone who leads a similar lifestyle.
Imagine being a celebrity/sports star, being investigated for rape, for fucking rape, and not informing your employer.
Video of the two people who are supposed to have been in the room that night in Vegas:
Such pricks
These are the worst kind of people.Video of the two people who are supposed to have been in the room that night in Vegas:
Such pricks
Were these posted?
her speaking to TMZ
http://www.tmz.com/2018/01/23/enzo-a...ahan-rape-wwe/
Just saying, the "Bitch I have 1million followers on Instagram....you should be begging for this dick" part sounds exactly like something the Enzo we've heard about would say.
It was pointed out on Twitter that she was tweeting during the "45 day" stay in a mental hospital. She then said it was supposed to be for 45 days but she gained access to social media on day 20 using her roommates phone and checked herself out on day 26 against medical advice.
A video of her admitting to blackmailing an ex-boyfriend with a fake pregnancy was also posted by TOOPOOR. She responded saying it was over 2 years ago and she'd never lie about something like a rape.
Hmm. Definitely brings her character into question. In general, this sounds like a case of bad judgment on everyone's part.
...One of the accuser's friends says that she is lying and he has proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6nWlaKRCQI
Fightful's recap/update:
In a twist that you truly can't make up, a face and voice that appeared on Sheahan's Youtube videos came forth Tuesday and stated that she made up the entire story. In his own Youtube video, Sam Cook -- identified as a former friend of Sheahan who has ceased communication with her -- ran a video of screenshots, and explained how he was originally told the story by Sheahan.
According to Cook, Sheahan's accusation of rape was a cover up in order to get her out of trouble with her father and roommates. She's allegedly met her roommates at a sobriety meeting, and Cook also claims that she recounted having consensual sex with Amore and that it "was amazing." Cook says that had Sheahan's sober roommates found out that she'd done drugs, they would have informed her father, who pays for her car.
Cook claims that while Sheahan was concerned her father would find out where she was, she actually had her location on the entire time, showing that she was still in Phoenix until the afternoon of October 19. Sheahan's father reportedly told her that she's going to get kicked out of her house if she doesn't go to rehab (which she told Fightful was at Sovereign Health Of Arizona.) It was then that Cook claims that she made up the story about being drugged and raped. Cook noted that wasn't the story that Sheahan was telling her friends at the time.
Cook says that when Sheahan's father took her to Sovereign Health, they told her that she couldn't come to rehab until she'd been medically tested -- which led to the aforementioned doctor and emergency room trips and police reports. Cook alleges that Sheahan exited rehab because watching the "Wizard of Oz" triggered her, and her therapist was Lutheran.
In the text messages that Cook displays on screen, Sheahan allegedly says "Im going to fucking rehab today. I met Too Poor & did coke with her & Tyler and fuck(ed) their friend," later saying "Belive it or not bitch it happened & I'm laying in bed next to a famous wrestler."
Typically these sort of claims aren't given any credibility, but Fightful.com did verify the nature of the Cook's relationship with Sheahan being close, although volatile in recent weeks. Cook has not submitted the evidence he claims to have to Phoenix PD as of yet.
Full story is here: https://www.fightful.com/enzo-amore-accused-rape
Dang, I couldn't last a minute into that video.Video of the two people who are supposed to have been in the room that night in Vegas:
Such pricks
I was thinking the same thing. There is no denying that they definetly appeared to of met and been together and that he chose to avoid going to WWE officials to report what was going on. That doesn't seem like a guy who is innocent. Heck, if I was innocent and was employed by the WWE in a major role. I would want the help of their attorney's to clear my name. Lets face it, this guys character is no character. He's not playing a part, this clown thinks he's this bada$$ gangster character in real life. He is impossible to work with and has chased away other talent and actually been put in his polace by others. He's a disruption, a nuisance, and as looney as she is. So far, it does seem to fit him perfectly, and he hasn't seemed at all to want to try and deny it. But, who knows anymore with anyone. You've got olympic athletes being paid and getting rich to let molesters continue to stalk. Women who think sexual abuse is only when you don't get the part, and the average female victim is made to feel afraid and terrified to come forward and she isn't as newsworthy as someone in hollywood. Then through all of it the most known child molester like Woody Allen is honored for hollywood like a saint. Whether of not she's a kook doesn't excuse if mister certified G who likes to play that role did it. Hopefully justice will be given for whover is the victim, but somehow I doubt it. This guy made his own bed, he needs to grow up. His "wrestling" career is over, he's like the plague to everyone he gets around, except the " Y wannabe" a gangster punks
Sounds like BS. Like pics of UFO's. Funny, everyone texts, yet there are no texts to confirm this stuff. And its not like they disappear after you delete them. Much like with all these high tech cameras and everyone has a phone with a great camera on it. But the UFO is always some blurred shot straight out of the 50's. LOLOL Personally, you get an inside look at the crew this guy hangs out with and what they are all about. Perhaps WWE just saw this as a godsend to get away from this guy clean. He's been nothing short of a disruptive hemorrhoid. But, guess we'll here more in the future. Lots of truths and halff truths mixed with BS. One thing is for sure. This guy put himself into every mess he's been in. Maybe he should grow up and start maturing a bit. Someone needs to tell him its an act, a storyline, and not reality. Before he changes his name to Enzo, for real. LOL.
It's been documented how Enzo likes the brag about his blue checkmark next to his name on IG. Not long ago, a stripper said he used it as an incentive to do the nasty with her. Is it not possible this girl here is aware of that? Perhaps she'd heard about his past shenanigans and pulled something he might say out of her pocket. I dunno Just hearing her account, seeing her behavior, and viewing the people she's mixed up with... the realm of possibility of her doing this for attention seems bigger.
Hope Enzo's innocent.
Sam and Max would be proud of some this point and click police work y'all are up to.
LOL what the fuck?
I would advise these people to get Lawyers instead of posting all this stuff online
Absolutely. A lot of companies that have public positions will actually write this as a stipulation into contracts.
How you suin?
@MikeHunt how high is this kid in your professional opinion.
Good Riddance - Enzo had the gift of gab but was terrible in the ring. I did not like him as a heel but I will give him credit for how he helped me care about some of the rest of the 205 division.
The WWE needs to bring back the perfect guy who can save 205 - they released him last year. A guy who bested AJ Styles multiple times, and a true entertainer who sold nearly as many tee shirts as Enzo's Certified G shirts.
Yes, they need to bring back the man with no chin, but with two hands, therefore he has a fighting chance.
James Ellsworth can be the guy to save the 205 division.
Apropos of nothing, but Enzo Amore fucking this chick would be like watching Gonzo from the Muppets plow the barely reanimated corpse of a recently deceased Courtney Love.
After Courtney Love got hit by a truck first.
Guessing stable now called Power Point. I wonder if Hideo turns heel since Vince like heel CWs
Professionally id say he's a wee cunt.
Bingo
Bingo squared.
I wish the 'post quote' function was working but it isn't since the crash last week.
The point I am trying to make is we *allegedly* live in a society where innocence is assumed over guilt without certain protocols, like PROOF put into action, I.e., a PROCCEESS, not a self appointed lynch mob called the public.
Which in this case has already acted to provide judge, jury and execucioner through both WWE and the internet.
Hope this comes through load and clear.
Just quoting your clear load.
None of that's happened you flaming dongleberry.
The only thing that's happened so far is that Enzo's been fired for being a plum and hiding the investigation from his employer.
Investigation ongoing.
EDIT - To nwooldschoolusername (despite being only 3 years old), obviously.
Oh bullshit.
that's the excuse.
Hey it works!
okay, I'm a 3 year old flaming dingleberry....
So if .Enzo is simply being fired for hiding the investigation then he will be rehired when and if found not guilty right?
yeah right..lol.
And I'm the flaming three year old dingleberry?
And if .Enzo got named by Rodriguez last week for steroids, there would've been an immediate investigation.
You know its true.
Its damned true.
@Cewsh
Why did you shut the stupidest poster thread?
And I am NOT trying to defend Enzo one bit.
I am simply speaking against mob mentality, rush to judgment and double standards.
All of which I see going on here.
just read the thread.
Youre the one making up the assinine juvenile names.
Must spread etc.
If he was fired for hiding the investigation, then that doesn't change, whether he's found innocent or not.
Sit down, I'll walk you through.
No, WWE will probably not rehire Enzo if the investigation doesn't result in a prosecution. The reason for this is Enzo wasn't fired because he's under investigation, he was fired because he didn't inform his employer. Most employers have it in the contract that if you become the target of a police investigation you must inform them immediately. For an entertainment company like WWE this becomes even more important as it allows them to control the fallout to a certain degree. By not informing them, not only did he certainly breach his contract, but he prevented them from taking measures to lessen any negative fallout the company may face. Either one of those would constitute gross misconduct.
I didn't call you three years old. I made a joke about your username being an old school type of name, the kind we would see a lot in the early days of the forum (as opposed to now, where capitals and letters aren't used as a form of abuse) despite the fact you've only relatively recently joined. 3 years ago, to be precise.
I did call you a Dongeberry. Because you're being a Dongleberry.
Is anyone gonna miss Enzo? I feel people liked him initially but he wore thin very fast
I won't. I liked his mic work at first but you're right, it wore thin real quick. He's like that little yappy dog that hung around with the bulldog in the old school cartoons.
There does tend to be a mob mentality (especially these days) to rush to judgment and attack the accused solely based on the accusation.
At the same time, there's also the mob mentality to attack the potential victims just because they're speaking out against a beloved celebrity when they could very well be telling the truth.
For what it's worth, I think people in both categories need to put their pitchforks away, let things play out, and reserve judgment until further notice.
In what world is Enzo a beloved celebrity.
A world where people are instantly taking his side against his accuser
I think Enzo is a shady character, that perhaps under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs would probably do the things he did, however in his mind it wasn't rape.
There enough WWE super fan weirdos on Twitter rushing to his defence with #freeenzo hashtags, attacking the girl because they're already convinced she's lying for him to fall into that category I'd say.
you get the idea"Cannot stand to see MY heroes fall because of OUR judgement. Free my Jersey Boys! #FreeEnzo #FreeFronefield"
"@real1 why the fuck are you hanging out with these garbage rat lookin motherfuckers? Cmon man, act like you been there. Cut the bullshit and wrestle for the boys that are rooting for ya @KillerNikels. Wigger rats bring around wigger rat bitches. #freeEnzo"
"He’s not guilty #FreeEnzo "
"Enzo Amore was released by the WWE because of rape allegations. There’s no proof or evidence of him doing this. I don’t believe he would do anything like that. #FreeEnzo"
"In light of recent events, I probably shouldn't wear this tee but I don't care. I'm on Enzo's side until otherwise stated. #CertifiedG #FreeEnzo "
"What Happened to innocent till guilty in America. Now any female can claim a male raped them with no evidence and fake stories and a man gets stamped with rapist for the rest of his life #FreeEnzo love him or hate him @real1 doesn't deserve a horrible stamp like that"
"Enzo Amore didn't do jack and comes @missgucciwitch to fucking accuse him of rape only to get him FIRED afterwards. She is a woman that sells nudes for $40, does drugs, fakes a pregnancy and does prostitution, ONLY FOR MONEY. Enzo Amore is innocent. #FreeEnzo"
"@missgucciwitch Youre nothing but some whore looking for her 15 minutes in the spot light. You have cost a man his career and trashed his reputation. You need help for you sickness #FreeEnzo"
"I'm convinced that chick is lying!! #EnzoAmore is #innocent!! #CruiserweightChampion #Cruiserweight #ZoTrain #FreeEnzo #SAWFT #WWE #RAW25 #SDLive"
"Enzo Amore may be a lot of things including cheap, flirty, and sleazy. But a rapist is not one of them #freeEnzo"
"@missgucciwitch you deserve every thing you're about to get I hope @real1 slaps you with a fat lawsuit #howyoudoin #dontdropthesoap #freeEnzo"
"BADABING BADABOOM COOLEST INNOCENT GUY IN THE ROOM HOW U DOIN!? #FreeEnzo"
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Like others have said, I don't think he was fired for the allegations, he was fired for not letting his employer know of the investigation, so his firing is all on him, not the accuser. Granted if he was never accused...
IF he's not guilty of rape/sexual misconduct, then at best he's still guilty of lacking the understanding that this is 2018 and famous people can't just make these types of accusations go away by ignoring them anymore.
Last edited by darkhorse; January 24th, 2018 at 1:36 PM.
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