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    WWE Survivor Series - November 19th 2017


    NOVEMBER 19th 2017












    Universal Champion vs WWE Champion-----
    Brock Lesnar vs AJ Styles-----







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    Faction vs Faction
    ------The Shield vs The New Day






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    Women's Champion vs Women's Champion
    Alexa Bliss vs Charlotte-----







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    WWE Men's









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    Tag Team Champions vs Tag Team Champions
    ----The Bar vs The Usos






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    Intercontinental Champion vs United States Champion---
    --------The Miz vs Baron Corbin







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    WWE Women's






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    WWE Cruiserweight Championship Match
    Enzo Amore vs. Kalisto







    __________________________________________________
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    So what are we looking at?
    Do you think they'll do RAW vs. SmackDown again?
    Men's, Tag Teams and Women's divisions from each show facing eachother?
    What about a cruiserweight Survivor Series match?

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    I would love to see Raw with Lesnar as captain and Smackdown with (sadly) Jinder as champion. Champions leading the brand into battle would be great.

    Raw:
    Lesnar
    The Shield
    Finn Balor

    Smackdown:
    Jinder
    Nakamura
    Owens
    AJ STyles
    Zayn

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    Tag team survivor series match Smackdown vs Raw.

    Raw
    The Bar
    The Club
    Slater and Rhyno
    Revival (if they are back by then)

    Smackdown

    Breezeango
    New Day
    Gable and Benjamin
    Hype Bros

    Also I expect to see some horsewoman action.
    TAPS AFF!

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    I would replace Zayn with Orton if they go that route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeHunt View Post
    Tag team survivor series match Smackdown vs Raw.

    Raw
    The Bar
    The Club
    Slater and Rhyno
    Revival (if they are back by then)

    Smackdown

    Breezeango
    New Day
    Gable and Benjamin
    Hype Bros

    Also I expect to see some horsewoman action.
    Usos?

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    I'd expect them to be in the main event as the RAW tag champs almost certainly will be.
    TAPS AFF!

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    Not a lot jumps out at me for here other than doing Raw vs. Smackdown again. I don't know if Lesnar is working here, I thought I had heard they used up his dates for the year. Not sure if Cena will be around either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    Not a lot jumps out at me for here other than doing Raw vs. Smackdown again. I don't know if Lesnar is working here, I thought I had heard they used up his dates for the year. Not sure if Cena will be around either.
    From what I've read, Lesnar is in play but Cena isn't.

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    UNIVERSAL TITLE:
    Brock Lesnar vs. Finn Balor (c)

    WWE TITLE:
    Randy Orton vs. Shinsuke Nakamura (c)

    SMACKDOWN 'SURVIVOR SERIES' MATCH:
    KO / Zayn / Corbin / Mahal / Rusev
    vs.
    Shane / AJ / Bobby Roode / Kofi / Big E

    RAW 'SURVIVOR SERIES' MATCH:
    Angle / Jordan / The Shield vs. Miz / Wyatt / The Bar / Matt Hardy

    #1 CONTENDERSHIP:
    Braun Strowman vs. Samoa Joe

    INTER-BRAND, WOMEN'S "SURVIVOR SERIES" MATCH:
    The UFC "Four Horsewomen"
    vs.
    Asuka / Bayley / Charlotte / Sasha

    (PRE-SHOW) CRUISERWEIGHT "SURVIVOR SERIES":
    Enzo / TJP / Kendrick / Gallagher
    vs.
    Neville / Kalisto / Cedric / Swann

    (PRE-SHOW) FATAL 4-WAY FOR "SD" TAG TEAM TITLES:
    NEW American Alpha vs. BreeZango vs. Usos (c) vs. Wyatt Family
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    Good card but the only downside is unless Nakamura wins the belt on a Smackdown, there is no Smackdown ppv between now and Survivor Series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    I would replace Zayn with Orton if they go that route.
    Zayn is in a much much more important role now than Random Randy Orton v. Random Rusev's Random feud.

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    Yes but Randy has Survivor Series history(sole survivor wins) and it seems like RAW(faces) vs Smackdown(heels) besides Styles and Nakamura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Yes but Randy has Survivor Series history(sole survivor wins) and it seems like RAW(faces) vs Smackdown(heels) besides Styles and Nakamura.
    But Orton's a heel so it'd still make SD face heavy. I agree, he is one of the staples of the match but I'll be honest, I've never really enjoyed him being victorious ever at these matches including last year. Let him and Rusev have a blowoff in a gimmick match.

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    Orton's a heel?

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    I'd like to see:

    Team RAW

    Brock - Universal Champion
    The Miz - IC Champion
    Ambrose and Rollins - Tag Champions

    Team Smackdown

    Jinder - WWE Chamion
    Baron Corbin - US Champion
    Usos - Tag Champions

    Or put Baron in a elimination match against a team with Braun on it so Braun can get his revenge from the Rumble.

    I always preferred 4 on 4 rather than 5 on 5.

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    so the smackdown team has all heels? That wouldn't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Orton's a heel?
    Mistake, which was obvious when I said it would make SD face heavy.

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    Yea but isn't the RAW team of Balor, Shield and Brock face heavy?

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    Tag Team Survivor Series Mockup










    The Shield, The Bar, Hardy/Jordan, The Club & Rhyno/Slater vs. The New Day, The Usos, Minnesota Wrestling Crew, Bludgeon Brothers, Fashion Police...


    Benefits
    - Both Shield and New Day have three man teams, evening the numbers at 11 a piece
    - Roman Reigns vs. his cousins The Usos
    - Jason Jordan vs. Chad Gable
    - Potential for The Shield by themselves to come back from a huge deficit, facing multiple tag teams at once, including Usos & New Day, who might be on the same page.
    Last edited by Bill Casey; October 13th, 2017 at 2:12 PM.

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    I would be cool with the match without Slater/Rhyno and Fashion Police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I'd like to see:

    Team RAW

    Brock - Universal Champion
    The Miz - IC Champion
    Ambrose and Rollins - Tag Champions

    Team Smackdown

    Jinder - WWE Chamion
    Baron Corbin - US Champion
    Usos - Tag Champions

    Or put Baron in a elimination match against a team with Braun on it so Braun can get his revenge from the Rumble.

    I always preferred 4 on 4 rather than 5 on 5.
    Problem with this is the rest of the card will suck unites we go back to old school format with all ss matches.

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    How is that even true? There are so many other guys. Styles, Nakamura, Owens, Zayn, Strowman, Joe, Orton, Rusev. You think the roster only consists of champions?

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    I would absolutely love to see another 1990 Survivor Series style card, with the winners of each match facing each other in a final match.

    The roster is so stacked with talent that I believe they could pull this off. And name the teams too. Dean's Dudes. The Maharaj Maniacs. Strowman's Strongmen.

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    Always thought the Grand Finale Match (or something like it) was a good idea. I'd probably do a Battle Royal instead of another tag match, and the winner gets something. The #30 spot in the Royal Rumble, a world title shot, an open contract for a match against anyone they want, something. The issue Survivor Series has always run into is the fact that the winners of the matches don't get anything. It was fine to sell the show back in the early days just on the promise that top guys were going to wrestle each other but today we get that on TV every week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I would absolutely love to see another 1990 Survivor Series style card, with the winners of each match facing each other in a final match.

    The roster is so stacked with talent that I believe they could pull this off. And name the teams too. Dean's Dudes. The Maharaj Maniacs. Strowman's Strongmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    Always thought the Grand Finale Match (or something like it) was a good idea. I'd probably do a Battle Royal instead of another tag match, and the winner gets something. The #30 spot in the Royal Rumble, a world title shot, an open contract for a match against anyone they want, something. The issue Survivor Series has always run into is the fact that the winners of the matches don't get anything. It was fine to sell the show back in the early days just on the promise that top guys were going to wrestle each other but today we get that on TV every week.
    the grand finale match is kind of silly though. the heels on one side vs the faces doesn't really make sense. Prichard is on record for hating that it wasn't a battle royal

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    the grand finale match is kind of silly though. the heels on one side vs the faces doesn't really make sense. Prichard is on record for hating that it wasn't a battle royal
    Back in that era though it was perfectly understandable. Why would the heels team up with the babyfaces? But I also get the point of, why wouldn't they make it a battle royal for just 1 survivor? The answer: Gotta make Hogan and Warrior look super strong baby.

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    For sure, I mean in this era it wouldn't make sense since heels and faces team up all the time now in these multi man matches.

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    The only time they really team up is if it's a brand situation and that's only been the last year. I can't really think of too many Survivor Series matches that weren't brand v. brand matches that had a mixed bag.

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    It's happened at Bragging Rights a couple years, Summerslam 2010, Survivor Series 1995 to name a few. I am pretty sure it's happened before on tv as well but I would have to do more research

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    With the multiple PPVs now, we get so many singles matches even tag matches. Why not go back to the old SS 4 vs 4 matches. With 5 matches you'd get 40 performers on the cards, add in maybe a Brock title defence and you'd have a good card. With pre-show too you'd be able to give a lot of the rosters a match.

    The Ultimate Survivor match would be good too as it could really elevate someone or cement someone's reputation.

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    The winners of the SS matches facing off in an ultimate survivor battle royal is a good idea, only problem is that it's pretty much a WCW Battle Bowl rip-off. I've heard Vince isn't a fan of doing that kind of stuff..

    With War Games returning in NXT, and also the Dusty/Crockett Cup it seems HHH doesn't mind WCW gimmicks, especially those created by Dusty I'm thinking. Would have been cool if Starrcade could have been a major NXT show instead of a SD house show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD50 View Post
    The winners of the SS matches facing off in an ultimate survivor battle royal is a good idea, only problem is that it's pretty much a WCW Battle Bowl rip-off. I've heard Vince isn't a fan of doing that kind of stuff..

    With War Games returning in NXT, and also the Dusty/Crockett Cup it seems HHH doesn't mind WCW gimmicks, especially those created by Dusty I'm thinking. Would have been cool if Starrcade could have been a major NXT show instead of a SD house show.
    But when you think about the content of your post, Vince is hypocritical. The rumor is Survivor Series was a response to War Games, correct? But Vince didn't want to do War Games post-WCW because it was "a WCW thing". The battle royal does remind me in a way of battle bowl, but the big difference is that match had 2 rings and 2 battle royals. The winners would then face each other and the winner gets money or a ring whatever the fuck haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    I would be cool with the match without Slater/Rhyno and Fashion Police.
    Worth noting someone has to be the first team pinned...
    Last edited by Bill Casey; October 13th, 2017 at 1:45 PM.

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    The Club, Jason Jordan, Benjamin, Gable, Rowan....

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    Fashion Police are one of the most over acts in the entire company and deserve some love. Heath/Rhyno at one point, booked tremendously, now booked like assclowns. What happened?

    FYI, anyone notice how small Karl Anderson truly is? I mean, against Jason Jordan the guy looked like he was a crackhead janitor.

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    I'd go Rhyno/Slater, The Club, The Fashion Police then Jordan/Hardy...
    Leaving The Bar and The Shield to fight four teams in a 5 on 9 handicap match...

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    NOVEMBER 19th 2017




    Whaaaat?
    You can do that with text?

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    Nice work, fancy pants.

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    Meltzer says current plan is Brock vs. Jinder here. Neither title on the line. I think that's an absolutely terrible idea.

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    Does that mean Raw vs. Smackdown then?

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    No reporting beyond that. I'd probably rather they do Raw vs. Smackdown in a five-on-five tag with the champions as the captains than do Lesnar/Mahal straight up.

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    Well I was thinking it'd be an entire show themed as Raw vs. Smackdown with the two champions on top

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    I'm guessing the Singh Bros. get a double F5 through a table and Jinder rolls up Brock for the victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cewsh View Post
    Does that mean Raw vs. Smackdown then?
    I hope they bring back the half red/half blue ropes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    Meltzer says current plan is Brock vs. Jinder here. Neither title on the line. I think that's an absolutely terrible idea.
    I only like this idea if it's a street fight and The Great Khali shows up again...



    The Singh brothers aren't going to cut it...
    If Jinder is facing Lesnar, he's going to need his Frankenstein man...
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    Only if Brock squashes him in the fastest way possible will this be worth it.

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    Meltzer says current plan is Brock vs. Jinder here. Neither title on the line. I think that's an absolutely terrible idea.
    brock's singles matches suck these days so why the hell not.

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    Iron man match.

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    Best of Seven Series. Over the course of the night.

    With Brock's lack of effort in his singles matches, I think having him be in a Survivor Series match makes some sense. All he has to do is take the hot tag.

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    Brock Lesnar vs Jinder Mahal
    Shield and Brothers of Destruction vs Strowman, Joe, Miz, and The Bar
    Styles and Shane vs Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn
    Askua/Bayley/Sasha/Mickie vs Nia/Alexa/Emma/Alica Fox
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    Charlotte vs Nattie

    Pre show
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    What's going to happen when Jinder pins Lesnar for the 123? I mean, last year he was squashed in a minute by a 50 year old who hadn't wrestled in 13 years. Why not have him put Jinder over to the moon a few weeks before they go to India where Jinder will then go over Goldberg, Roman Reigns, Cena, and Hulk Hogan.

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    If WWE want to keep Jinder strong with Indian tour coming up but also want to have Brock strong for Reigns match, if Jinder beats him in a none title match then Reigns going over isn't going to mean anything. Jinder having a competitive match with Brock but going down wouldn't do him any harm. With Brock only a PT guy, I would have thought if he had a match then make it a title match. On RAW he has taken on a lot of the bigger guys, I'd have rather had first Strowman match go to DQ then have Brock get big win here in re-match.

    Brock apparently "wasn't keen" on a Shane match when it was once mentioned, I'd think Jinder would draw a similar reaction regardless of holding the title on Smackdown. I'd think Brock would much rather have anyone of say AJ, Owens, Naka than Jinder.

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    The one constant I've heard about Lesnar is that when push comes to shove he's usually pretty good about doing business. If the WWE said we're trying to get this guy super over so it'll convince the Indian market to jump on the WWE train, we need you to put him over but here's how we'll do it that protects you. I mean, I can't imagine Lesnar is such a Goldberg mark he was cool with getting squashed the way he did but the WWE wanted it to happen so he obliged. Really the only time I've heard he was difficult was the Ambrose match where he didn't want to really do anything Ambrose wanted to.

    I mean, this is the guy who came back from being UFC champion and lost his first match back to John Cena.

    Jinder would probably draw a similar reaction in terms of "this guy is terrible" but at least the roids give him somewhat of a visual that Lesnar might not have seen with Shane....tbh I've never really heard anything about a Shane-Lesnar match outside of rumor.

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    damn forgot about balor and wyatt.

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    Shouldn't beat Jinder right before the India tour. Jinder shouldn't beat Lesnar. Bad match making. Don't make the match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    Shouldn't beat Jinder right before the India tour. Jinder shouldn't beat Lesnar. Bad match making. Don't make the match.
    I don't think it'll really matter in terms of the tour if Jinder loses. If anything, it only really hurts the brand (even though it's non-title) that he would lose. Other than that, I really don't have a problem if he lost.

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    Yeah he would still be the champion and losing to Lesnar isn't a bad thing anyway. Everyone loses to him

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    They don't need to do Mahal/Lesnar but they are anyway. They are either booking themselves into a corner or they have a plan. I think there will be a bullshit ending and neither man will truly lose.

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    What corner are they booking themselves into? Mahal can lose clean to Brock and be fine.

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    Did anyone think going into last year's Survivor Series of GOLDBERG V. BROCK LESNAR that a year later we'd be going "JINDER MAHAL V. BROCK LESNAR!!!"

    See folks, this is some Russo WCW shit.

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    Downside of a weak world champion. First WWE Champion vs. Universal Champion match should be a big deal, but nobody gives a fuck about Jinder. Brock vs. AJ, Brock vs. KO, even Brock vs. Orton would be cool as champion vs. champion.

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    Brock v. Velveteen Dream is more of a draw.

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    Be curious to see what the India tour looks like. Wonder if Jinder has really spiked interest over there or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    What's going to happen when Jinder pins Lesnar for the 123? I mean, last year he was squashed in a minute by a 50 year old who hadn't wrestled in 13 years. Why not have him put Jinder over to the moon a few weeks before they go to India where Jinder will then go over Goldberg, Roman Reigns, Cena, and Hulk Hogan.
    In a 4 on 1 handicap match, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    Be curious to see what the India tour looks like. Wonder if Jinder has really spiked interest over there or not.
    I don't think he really has. Maybe a slight bump but from what I've heard the numbers still suck in terms of Network subscriptions. They've been to India in the past and sold out those shows. I think what the WWE are going to find out is that this was all for nothing. I'm not a fan of Jinder one bit so I'll probably never see the positive unless it's blatantly obvious. I'm not Indian so I'm not sure if the opinion is simply "Hey there's a guy who's part Indian I must watch!" because I'm in a country that birthed professional wrestling as we know it today so it's always been part of me. WRESTLING in general whereas in India it's not even remotely a thing they're into in terms of how invested Western fans are, or just areas where wrestling has always been a major form of entertainment i.e. Japan.

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    OK so here is a match I wouldn't mind seeing.

    Team Shane (Shane McMahon, AJ Styles, Randy Orton, Nakamura, Bobby Roode) vs Team Owens (Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, Baron Corbin, Rusev, Ziggler)

    Although it looks like Rusev and English are going to team up and feud with New Day so who knows.

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    The one thing I can't figure out where they're going with is the use of DB. Seems ever since he was the show GM that it's been teased at about him wrestling/not wrestling, heels using it against him that he can't wrestle. It feels the same like putting Shane in a match; you know what you're getting when it's happening. It would just seem like a waste of a mention if it doesn't result in him snapping eventually and put in a match (DB that is).

    I like your idea for Team Shane vs. Owens, but I'd really like to see one match for a title on the card if Lesnar vs. Jinder happens.

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    honestly who gives a crap if the IC or US title get defended when it doesn't mean anything. Right now, they don't have a singles feud going so the multi man match is more important right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    honestly who gives a crap if the IC or US title get defended when it doesn't mean anything. Right now, they don't have a singles feud going so the multi man match is more important right now.
    With that kind of mentality no wonder it doesn't mean anything, which I strongly disagree with as both championships have been very active. With that said, Survivor Series needs to go back to strictly multi-person matches. A handful of good non-traditional matches over 30 years doesn't warrant, imo, to always have a title match or singles match in general. I would have preferred Team Raw v. Team Smackdown with the champs leading their teams.

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    Look at Miz, he isn't even in an IC title feud right now. Why should I care if they don't? The US title has changed hands about 6 times in 3 months. It's Survivor Series so the title matches are put on the back burner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Look at Miz, he isn't even in an IC title feud right now. Why should I care if they don't? The US title has changed hands about 6 times in 3 months. It's Survivor Series so the title matches are put on the back burner.
    RIGHT NOW, The Miz is in a main event storyline and he's the IC champion. When was the last time that happened? He just defended the championship what, 2-3 weeks ago against Roman Reigns, the #2 on the brand under Lesnar. I agree, they get put on the backburner, not because they don't mean anything, but because as you said it's Survivor Series. I get more frustrated with them not being defended at Mania.

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    There has been talk about doing AJ/Shane vs Owens/Zayn - that match would be fine especially if they had Zayn pinning AJ to get him over. Team Shane vs Team Owens would also be good if it was booked well and could elevate someone too.

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    Depends when they pull the trigger on AJ/Jinder. If that's not happening til after Survivor Series, they may want to keep him strong.

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    All for the classic elimination matches, really like last year's SS PPV. Team Shave V Team Owens sounds good, but I'm just not interested in Shane's matches, if he gets the team together and stays outside or backstage then yes. Personally i hope they go team SD v team Raw again

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    If a RAW vs SD match happens, it will probably be a throw away match used as filler. Maybe involving the women.

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    Well it seems as though the 205 live pretty much has teams set. Enzo, nese, daivari, gulak and darr vs kalisto, ali, swann, Alexander, and Tozawa

    After tlc I'm sure team miz will take on team shield after two others interfere

    And team owens vs team Shane

    On top of that is Lesnar vs Jindar. They can let Jindar win by dq or interference with Braun.

    I don't see any other smackdown vs raw matches unless James wins
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    I'm going to this. Hopefully the card is good considering TLC just got the mother of all upgrades.

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    you know what i'd love to see, the shield vs. brock, strowman and joe. i dont know where you slot it in or how, but that match would be the shit.

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    I'd love that, but who goes over?

    Brock launching the Singh Bros. into the nose bleed seats will be pretty fun, I guess.

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    They're almost certainly doing Raw vs. Smackdown matches here based on Talking Raw. AJ and Angle both talking about how their shows have the best rosters.

    So Team Raw...Kurt, Roman, Reigns, Rollins, and not sure about the fifth guy. Strowman, Joe, Miz, Finn, depends on what they want to do with the rest of the card. Team Smackdown: AJ, Shane, Owens, Nakamura, and Orton?

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    I don't see Kurt wrestling unless Shane is too but it will probably be like last year with each division getting a match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    They're almost certainly doing Raw vs. Smackdown matches here based on Talking Raw. AJ and Angle both talking about how their shows have the best rosters.

    So Team Raw...Kurt, Roman, Reigns, Rollins, and not sure about the fifth guy. Strowman, Joe, Miz, Finn, depends on what they want to do with the rest of the card. Team Smackdown: AJ, Shane, Owens, Nakamura, and Orton?
    Will Roman be ready by then?

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    I doubt Roman will be rushed back so soon.
    I do wonder if we get Sin Cara vs Enzo.

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    My guess:

    Brock versus Jinder
    Bálor versus Styles
    Ambrose/Rollins versus Usos
    Women's Survivor Series Match
    Men's Survivor Series Match
    Cruiserweight Title Match

    I'm sure there's another singles match or two in there and they might want to put a spotlight on the women's titles, but it sounds like that could easily just work itself into a traditional women's SS match.

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    Ambrose and Rollins vs. The Usos is rumored to be on the card. That'll be a dope match.

    I don't think we'll get Balor vs. Styles II so soon, unfortunately. I hope I'm wrong, though.

    I read that Cena might referee the Brock vs. Jinder match. I guess that's to set up Cena vs. Jinder at the Rumble or Mania which... ICK.

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    Sounds like Nattie/Alexa and Miz/Corbin as well from the rumor mill?

    If so, yuck.

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    I saw that. Two heel vs. heel matches? The fuck is that about?

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    I feel like they should go back to the drawing board for most of the card if all the rumors are true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    I saw that. Two heel vs. heel matches? The fuck is that about?
    More champion vs champion stuff. It doesn't help that most of the champions are heels.

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    Good thing this is a pre-determined show and you can book whatever matches you want.

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    Angle announcing most of the card right now.

    Brock vs. Jinder

    Natalya vs. Alexa

    Corbin vs. Miz

    Ambrose and Rollins vs. The Usos

    Raw vs. Smackdown Men's Five Man Elimination Match

    He did mention that the title matches are "as of right now" so I think they might do a title change or two to get different matches.
    Raw vs. Smackdown Women's Elimination Match

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    Good thing this is a pre-determined show and you can book whatever matches you want.
    That doesn't make any sense. Predetermined or not you can still book whatever matches you want. The result is where the predetermined part comes in.

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    That's exactly what I was saying. You can make whatever matches you want, you don't have to do The Miz against Baron Corbin. And I expect they won't, when they announced the matches they made sure to say they were "as of right now." I think we'll see some titles change to get some better champion vs. champion matches.

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    Usos v. Rollins/Ambrose is really the only match "booked' that I'm willing to sit through with joy. Mainly because if Roman/Rollins could tear the house down with the Usos 3-4 years ago, so can Ambrose/Rollins.

    Natalya v. Bliss is so weak it's not even funny. I guess they can put the belt on Charlotte on a Smackdown and that will definitely amp up the draw of that match.

    Miz v. Corbin. I would have rather seen AJ with the US title still and then they could talk about how when AJ first came in him and Miz were a solid rivalry and now they're both champions....Corbin, another example of how truly weak the champions of Smackdown are in comparison to Raw.

    Jinder v. Brock. Let's be honest, nobody but maybe Jinder ever thought we'd see him face Lesnar in a match of this magnitude. Let's not forget what Lesnar did to 3MB. 30lbs. of steroids might help Jinder a little bit this time around but I swear if this is some 15-20 minute back and forth I'll load up the catapult with piss filled watermelons for the Titan Towers.

    So it would be cool if all 3 Smackdown singles champions were not the champions going into Survivor Series but it's not going to happen. I fully expect the WWE do some stupid shit and put the tag belts on the Hype Bros. and leave the rest as is.

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    Usos vs. Shield should be a show stealer. Shield vs. New Day (whether it's 2-on-2 or 3-on-3) would be awesome too.

    I don't think Natalya vs. Alexa will happen. I'd predict Charlotte gets the belt off Natalya and they do Charlotte vs. Alexa.

    I wouldn't expect Miz vs. Corbin either. Either Styles gets the US Title from Corbin or Dillinger does.

    Brock/Jinder sucks, but they're definitely going with it.

    Curious if we get a 10 on 10 tag team match too. Not sure they have enough tag teams right now though. Raw has The Bar, Gallows and Anderson, Matt Hardy and Jason Jordan, Rhyno and Slater, Cedric and Swann. Smackdown has New Day, The Ascension, Primo and Epico, Harper and Rowan, and the Fashion Police. So a lot of jobber teams, but you can do it if you want to.

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    they could get away with that on the preshow. It also seems like Rusev and English are a team now and you forgot about Gable/Shelton who seem to be heels now.

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